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Archive 1: 2009-2015. Created by --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

If what you are about to write here ...[edit]

... actually belongs on the talk page of an article, please put it there, not here! Thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:25, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

If you are in a bad mood ...[edit]

... (like anybody can be once in a while) please don't be condescending, sarcastic, belligerent or rude here! Thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:25, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016[edit]

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The ANI[edit]

Hi SergeWoodzing! I wanted to leave you a message to give you a hug and offer my empathy regarding your frustration at the ANI today. In the thread, I tried to provide a level-headed response and explain where opportunities could have been improved on both sides of the table. However, before I could offer you my personal assistance and diffuse the situation for everybody involved, other responses were posted on the ANI that were absolutely not constructive or acceptable from a participant at ANI, and they made the situation much much worse (the opposite of what I was trying to do). I completely understand your frustration today, as well as the fact that the ANI thread left you feeling even more frustrated, even more attacked and criticized, and with your feelings left completely ignored.

Speaking on behalf of the administrators and experienced editors that participate at ANI: ...we are expected to assume good faith, listen to both sides of the story, diffuse the situation, offer a level-headed and local analysis of the situation without jumping to conclusions or taking sides, and do our best to make sure that the discussion ends with everyone involved feeling satisfied and listened to. I feel like this did not happen in your ANI discussion today. And for that, I'm very very sorry, and I feel very disappointed that you were treated the way that you were. While I feel that the discussion started off in a fair manner, and with fair statements made, it certainly did not end this way. We missed an opportunity to demonstrate the leadership and maturity that comes with being an experienced editor, and we failed at our job.

I encourage you to take some time, let emotions and frustrations cool down, and allow yourself to move on and (hopefully) take some part of this (even if it's very small) and see it as a positive learning experience. I also want you to know that my talk page is always open to you, and that you're more than welcome to message me if you want to talk, if you have concerns that you want to express, or if you need someone to help you with anything. I promise that I will treat with respect and I will do my best to help you with anything that you need regarding Wikipedia. I hope you have a good weekend, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:09, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

This is the nicest thing that has ever been done to me by another Wikipedian. It's been many lonely years. My heartfelt thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:59, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

ANI[edit]

If you falsely accuse others of OWNing an article with no proof ("You yo not own this article") I will happily file a report on you at ANI. there is no OWNership here, but there is some disrtuption caused by uncivil editors making false accusations. - SchroCat (talk) 15:33, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I pressed enter too early, by mistake, and removed that at once. You weren't supposed to see it. I'm amazed you even did. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Sydney Onayemi[edit]

The source you provided is probably not a lasting source, since that list in the margin will have him bumped down pretty soon. Any other more reliable source at hand? His fame should have garnered some attention by media. Strangnet (talk) 19:45, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

No, but that's an official site of the City of Stockholm. If the city of Stockholm says he died on May 1st, he died on May 1st, and that's reliable. And this belongs on the article's talk page, not here. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:50, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
No, it is not the official web site of Stockholm, which is stockholm.se. And the data is retrieved from an external service called Ratsit. --Strangnet (talk) 20:28, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
I repeat: this belongs on the article's talk page, not here. Please do not continue it on my talk page, it does not concern me personally. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:14, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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Please add full citation to Faust Landmark[edit]

You added a partial citation to Faust Landmark that does not enable readers to find the book. The title is incomplete, the author is missing, and the ISBN is invalid. Can you please complete the citation? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:25, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

The title of that book of memoirs is complete, exactly like this: "Det var en gång ...". The author's name is not missing, it's Carl Johan Bernadotte. The correct ISBN is 91-0-046018-4, which was the victim of 2 typos on my part. Sorry! Thank you for pointing that error out to me! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 23:14, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
PS Actually, only one typo, now that I checked. You added the 2 dashes at the end of the number. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 23:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Neutral user[edit]

To me it seems that you take prince Bernadotte very personell.we did not have any "issue". We discussed if the source was good or not. You did not agree with us, although we gave good reasons. Of course you have the right to ask others to say their opinion, and that was good. By doing so you saw that those people also thought like we did... Which means that we were not wrong, and then it was not an issue. By writing "other neutral users" all the time makes it very personal against the first users who objected against that specific source. You writes very nice not to write personal on the talk pages, but by writing that way you do it your self. And yes, I am neutral. Adville (talk) 18:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, you were right, and I was wrong about how that source was cited.
I will continue to ask for neutral comments, which I find the most helpful to all of us, whether or not you choose to take offense at that, which I think most anyone else can see is not what I intend. It's one of the cornerstones of progress on English Wikipedia, as far as I have seen and learned: neutral comments - asking and waiting for them.
If it is so important to you to keep rubbing it in that all you Swedes (since "we" is what you write) were right and I was wrong in this case, I must tell you that at this point in time I find it (1) extremely (!!!) tiresome and (2) uncessarily aggressive of you to keep repeating that in different wordings, time and again. Please stop it! I'm sure you don't agree, but I'm telling you how I feel, and you can only change that by getting off my back. As I've just recently been through quite a traumatic ordeal on svWP, of which you are very much aware, and which damaged me psychologically, I'd appreciate it very much if you'd leave me alone for a while now, 100%. Is that too much to ask of you? I won't stalk you, harass you or look for any arguments with you at all, and I hope you can find it in the goodness of your heart to be kind to me now. I'd sleep better at night, that's for sure.
Please do not reply!--SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Notes to self[edit]

  1. Seems OK to start adding redirects as per here 6 October 2016. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:06, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
  2. Re: svWP treatment here. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:04, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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Ref[edit]

Here you added a reference in the middle of the first sentence. What fact do you believe this reference is supporting? Right now, it is not clear. --JBL (talk) 16:29, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

The correct spelling of her original full name, which varies on some other Internet articles. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:02, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Hi. I would like to thank you for your understanding about the questions you had with Acirams edits.I really ment that you did correct to go to other users to get it solved instead of risking a conflict that no one would be a winner in.

Because you have been a long time contributor on svwp I also want to tell you the sad news that Obelix (talk · contribs) passed away two weeks ago. I know you had your arguments, but I think you should know. Best regards, Adville (talk) 20:55, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you and thank you. I'm still in touch with my watchlist on svWP so I knew that sad news. I had very good cooperation with Obelix for a while and corresponded with him by e-mail and then things turned very sour. I think several people at svWP assumed politcal things about me that made it hard for us to get along, and since I've never belonged to any politcal party or movement, trying to just be a humanitarian and an old hippie, that's so unfortunate. I condole the sorrow among his many friends, and sincerely (not sarcastically) hope that what's there about Lars Jacob in Christer Lindarw's new book didn't contribute to his unhappiness.
The Arne Klum article needs a little adjustment. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 23:07, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I can assure you that what happened between you two before you left svwp has nothing to do to with him leaving us far to early. That was off-wiki causes, while the wiki gave him strength to stay as long as he did with us.
I will look at that article tomorrow. Best regards, Adville (talk) 23:40, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I looked at Arne Klum. I'm almost ashamed that it took two readings for me until the name Mattias Klum rang a bell for me. As a former science teacher I have seen a lot of his photos. I did a few small corrections, but can you tell me more what you think needs to be improved.
Thank you again! I'm glad then, that his intense work on WP helped him for a while.
I just now read the recent discussion about me on svWP and frankly, I feel a bit sick, as if I had "reported" A here only for adding sources, and as if she needed to ask you all several times to inform admins here that I'm blocked there because of my work on "history articles". There too, I very much appreciated your input. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 00:02, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I understand you, because you didn't do anything this time. That's why I told the enwp-admins we two had had a discussion, so they know that before they read. Then it was easier to understand. The Swedish royalties have been a great deal of discussions on both enwp and svwp between you and a few other users (me just a little bit in the end about that source, because it came up during KAW, else I am not writing anything about them at all). Because of this some users feel not so very well to discuss with you, but they do good edits. The question now is how to solve this interaction problem between you and the others. When that is done there might be a chance to start discussing a removal of the ban on svwp. (there were some other issues too, as you know) I have been mediator in a cause like this before on svwp between two editors. It was solved and both are still very active, but no more issues between them. As you know some people have had special agreements for a while after a block (our late friend Obelix is an example of that)... What I mean is that there could be solutions in the future to solve things to the better for all parts. Maybe a little to early right now (your photos are discussed on Tostarpadius discussion right now), but later. The main thing is not you coming back to svwp, but that you and Aciram can edit in the same articles without any of you feels afraid. That you think the same about the use of sources etc. Not you or Aciram shall feel bad about the other (like both now have done in this specific case, which made you understand how Aciram feels about you. Tht is no good feeling, and it is not fun for you to know - how can we change this, is the question). (Sorry if I interfere too much here writing like this) - Best regards, Adville (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Sincere thanx, Adville, but new surprises like this aren't going to help here, and harassment like this (one of several examples today) that is still going on, does not make me feel interested at all in returning to svWP. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:02, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

I´d like your opinion[edit]

I stumbled over Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich of Russia, not a terrible article (don´t know if you ever read Lucky Luke), but one of the things that caught my eye is what seems to be an overuse of his title, if you control-f "the grand duke" you´ll see what I mean. I´m thinking of changing it to more of a first-name basis, like in Peter the Great. Is it worth doing or shouldn´t I bother? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:56, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Reading through the article, I thought "this sounds like a society page in an old newspaper!" Then I saw the sources. Heh. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:20, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Good ideas - go for it! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:53, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Hide edits[edit]

Hi. I reverted scrap on your and user Dnm:s page. I do not know how to make someone hide it. My opiion is it should be. I just wanted you to know that about Dnm too, so you do not miss that page when you tell the right person. Best regards, Adville (talk) 14:12, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas ![edit]

Merry Christmas, Serge ! Boeing720 (talk) 21:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you & the same to you. Computer problems at my place for a week or so now. Best wishes. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:55, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Christina, Queen of Sweden[edit]

Has anyone checked Crompton 2009 for the sources the author uses for the rather sweeping statement "modern biographers generally consider her to have been a lesbian, and her affairs with women were noted during her lifetime"? And since when is a person's sexuality the result of an opinion poll? I hasten to notice that everything else in the relevant section is innuendo or suspicion, so that it is really Crompton that it all hangs from. In any event, I have boldly moved Christina's own declaration to the top, as the standard nowadays with regard to sexuality is that it does not matter what other people think, it matters what you declare. See: Manning, Jenner. I hope this is not offtopic to you. I just don't have access to the Crompton book. Thanks, and happy new year. XavierItzm (talk) 12:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

I agree 100%. Very busy with other things now. Hope to start in with this again soon. Best wishes! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Swedish in exile template[edit]

Hello again, Serge ! May I ask , have you (also, like me) been more or less thrown out of Swedish Wiki ? And may I copy your template to my page ? By the way, Jacob Truedson Demitz, appear to have had some controversies with Swedish wiki as well. see the Gallery part of Swedish Wikipedia, there is a picture of him. And it seems like he had some kind of discussion with them, in Stockholm 2010. Cheers Boeing720 (talk) 23:29, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

The template was not created by me, but someone tipped me off and I added it immediately.
The person you mentioned has complained several times about the lack of conflict resolution methods (and interest) and the absence of rules against harassment and outing on svWP. I think that's why they hate him there and have blacklisted him and several other people they know or think are involved with him. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:57, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

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Prinsessan Birgitta katolik?[edit]

Hej, här uppgav du att prinsessan Birgitta konverterade när hon gifte sig: [1]. Det var några år sedan men jag undrar ändå om du känner till någon källa till det?--LittleGun (talk) 10:54, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

This and this are what I can find at the moment about Birgitta's religion, plus the assumption that back then one could not be married in a Roman Catholic church without converting (today you can). I've read somewhere reliably, and more specifically that she converted, but I can't put my finger on it right now. Remove it if you can't find a specific source. Two queens of Sweden have been Roman Catholics, and when Birgitta converted she was not eligible for the throne so the matter was not important to the king or government. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:31, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
OK, but if she converted I do not think she could have kept her Royal Highness "status", the ones her sisters lost when they did not marry royal. I can't believe the court, king or their fans would let converting go, but enforce the marrying royal thing. Citation needed is fine until sources are found. From newspapers at tidningar.kb.se you can see it was commented and discussed at the time and she did write her memoirs so there should be sources..--LittleGun (talk) 15:04, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
If Queens Desideria and Josephine remained royal Majesties in Sweden though they were Roman Catholics I think Birgitta would have been allowed to remain a Royal Highness there - throne inheritance was not involved anyway, and that's the only part where religion comes into it. The Bernadottes were all Roman Catholics before 1810. We have so few precedents because there have been so few Swedish princesses, if any before, who married Catholic princes. You are right though to expect anything, good or bad, from "the court, king or their fans". Lots of inconsistent and weird policies and practises. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)