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shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Crowded House[edit]

Did you note that Crowded House's List of Awards is being delisted, thought you & I might see what we can do to rectify this matter. Dan arndt (talk) 09:50, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I note that there is no mention of their Juno Award nominations (1989, 1990), Q Award (1990), NZ Music Awards, VMAs, as well as their 12th ARIA in 2010. Dan arndt (talk) 12:12, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm not certain whether the list should include that two CH albums were included in the Hottest 100 albums of all time. What are your thoughts?
they also won several of The Age EG Music Awards, notably in 2006. [1]. Still struggling to find what the exact award was - it was for Woodface see [2]. Dan arndt (talk) 06:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
still searching, did find that they won a Helpmann Award in 2008.Dan arndt (talk) 06:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Is having the appearance of CH's songs in the respective Hottest 100s really necessary or appropriate in this list? I think that there is already an overwhelming number of awards and award nominations without their inclusion. Your thoughts? Dan arndt (talk) 07:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

What are your thoughts about putting all the awards into a single sortable table, as suggested? Dan arndt (talk) 05:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Was just looking at similar FL and one of the most recent List of awards and nominations received by Lana Del Rey promoted April 2015, has each of the different awards separated into separate tables, even where there is only a single nomination - none of which are sortable. In fact none of the featured list of awards and nominations for musicians appears in the form as outlined in the comments. Is this just one reviewers personal preference or is there a common standard? Dan arndt (talk) 06:16, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

The infobox is missing both the Helpmann and EG Awards both of which were included in the overall total. Dan arndt (talk) 22:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I can't see what else to pick up in a copy-edit, can you? Dan arndt (talk) 08:06, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm struggling to see what else we can do.... Dan arndt (talk) 13:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


All this research got me thinking - there was one other Aussie band that had a FL delisted and given the passage of time was it worth resurrecting the list back to its former status - what are your thoughts? Dan arndt (talk) 02:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry managed to get myself sidetracked on other issues. I've searched high & low for any reference to RS Awards - as far as I can find the formal RS Awards (Aus) didn't start until 2010, which means most WM releases missed out. Unless they were more informal, will have to go through back copies in the library. If the were US then I got no hope. I was thinking of moving it to a separate page so we can work on lead etc. Dan arndt (talk) 11:09, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Was also looking at Wolfmother discography, which was nominated as a FLC but the nominator failed to make the last changes requested. Might be a better start than doing their awards.... Dan arndt (talk) 08:05, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Have you got a quick way of identifying all the dead links in the article? Also need to weed out all the blog references etc.Dan arndt (talk) 04:37, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Have gone through all the references and fixed them, however I have left the ARIA reports for you (as I didn't want to have all the fun). What other tasks need to be done. Dan arndt (talk) 09:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Been checking and it appears that Wolfmother have charted on numerous charts [3], which just reflects how many US charts there are. Do we list all the appearances or just the Top 200? Dan arndt (talk) 10:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
My personal preference would be to leave all the charts in (I know that its more than 10) and then see if as part of the FLC review it is required to be reduced in size. However going through all the existing FL discographies it is pretty well plain to see that everyone of them is restricted to ten charts or less. I would probably include Austria ahead of Denmark - as they charted higher in Austria. Dan arndt (talk) 06:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I definitely would include Canada, particularly given the 'Gold' record status As far as I can determine he prepared artwork for "Heavy Weight" but wasn't the video director. As New Crown was released digitally on Wolfmother's Bandcamp site, it is unlikely that it was ever released separately as a single. The only conclusive fact I can find is that they released a 'lo-fi' video for the song. Dan arndt (talk) 07:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I added to your sandbox the original album table, which had 21 chart positions (just for comparison)... Maybe we include a footnote which comments on the charting of the albums on the US Rock Album charts and the UK Rock charts - what do you think. Dan arndt (talk) 07:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Changed my mind - exclude Canada and use the chart in your sandbox. Struggle to see how Wolfmother didn't chart in Canada but still recieved 'gold' record status. Might think about including a footnote. Dan arndt (talk) 08:02, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
"Heavy Weight", as the track was released as part of New Crown on the band's bandcamp website on 23 March 2014 (it could be purchased separately or as part of the album) and only the album was every released on vinyl and CD. It is highly unlikely that it was officially 'released' as a single. The only confusion may have arisen when the band released a video for the song and the preception was that it was released as a single. I can't find anything on the various band websites that indicate that it was a separate release. Dan arndt (talk) 02:04, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
  • So what do you think - have we satisfied the FL criteria? Are we ready to lodge and see how it fares? Dan arndt (talk) 01:57, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
OK will defer to your wisdom on that aspect. (BTW what's a webcite). Dan arndt (talk) 02:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I've lodged a request with the Guild of Copy Editors to undertake a review of both this article and CH awards, as there is currently a backlog of articles there and it may take some time before an editor undertakes a review. Dan arndt (talk) 02:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Large-scale plagiarism at Spectrum article[edit]

Are you aware that the Spectrum article is essentially an edited version of the Milesago entry. Even if we assume that Kimball, himself, is responsible for both versions, that still would be self-plagiarism and still a problem. Should I raise it at WikiProject: Australian music? I think it is about time someone tackled this, but I'm involved with other projects at the moment. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 02:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)