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Testament Albums

Thx for the tips :) I am scraping the bottom of the barrel for citations even halfway edible, albums are so old nothing was online then. Bouncing around Testament albums with what I can find or anything obvious hoping to find information that can be cross referenced to help other album pages. Some have little more than a single sentence for an article. --West Horizon (talk) 07:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
As a follow up, both Prosthetic ref's have been re-cited or removed. I rewrote one paragraph to take out info no longer cited. Figuring that wasn't a good ref I removed/replaced the ref to Spitfire Records official site also for The Gathering (Testament album). Changed the bad refs to links and moved to "Externals" section.
You can almost read the entire article without scrolling down, does it really need a ToC? Also broke up the Demonic (album) page I was adding stuff too into sections like you did with The Gathering so the layouts are kinda uniform-ish. --West Horizon (talk) 11:11, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Lincoln final smile

The smile weakly statement was known to have come from this source. The mouth was set in a very slight smile, the eyebrows were arched, and the eyes were closed. Sources used: Kennedy and Lincoln: Medical and Ballistic Comparisons of Their Assassinations by Dr. John K. Lattimer, Twenty Days by Dorothy Meserve Kunhardt and Philip B. Kunhardt, Jr., Memorial Record of the Nation's Tribute to Abraham Lincoln by B.F. Morris, and The Farewell to Lincoln by Victor Searcher. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.136.120 (talk) 15:15, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

If you have all these sources and these sources categorically state that "Lincoln smiled weakly", then you need to use the citations (with page numbers, etc.) to achieve that. I have left you a "how-to" link on your 92.15.136.120 talk page. And, seriously, shouldn't you register for an account? You're obviously interested in editing Wikipedia and having a named account makes communicating a lot easier. Shearonink (talk) 15:34, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

citation needed .

I have putted citation needed at the end of the coma statement so hopefully that will give me time to find it.

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Thanks

My friends, I thank you at last for freeing me once and for all. I do not have the books describing Lincoln final smile but I am glad becuase I was getting a bit stuptid on the page. Perhaps one day, we see it all. I am not ashamed to confess that one and a half years ago, I putted on things like alleged assasin on JFK pages. I want every man to have a chance. I bid you an affectionate farewell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.138.79 (talk) 18:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Cole and Roe

Alvin Karpis revealed in his 1980 memoir On the Rock that he'd been serving as lookout on the day when Cole and Roe made their swim. There was a heavy fog and also floodwaters running through the Golden Gate from recent storms in the San Joaquin Valley which had completely isolated many communities for days. Cole and Roe got into the water and started to swim. Within a minute or two, Karpis said, he say their heads disappear as they were pulled under. He and his fellow lookout Joe Clark only told a few close friends what they'd witnessed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.140.100 (talk) 15:11, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Then please source the information at the Cole and Roe article, don't just tell me about it here on my talk page...that doesn't help the article. Your original edit and your subsequent reversion of my valid correction is apparently a cut&paste of previously-deleted content with no cited sources (complete with a "citation needed|date=July 2012" maintenance template).
  • If you know this information to be somehow "True" and
  • you can WP:VERIFY this information with a cited source and
  • you have access to this source, then
  • why waste time talking about it on a user talk page? Fix it and the article will be the better for your editing! Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 16:35, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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Think.

Think



Think before you post. Ok?...

Shearonink (talk) 05:09, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Jane Russell unsourced claims

Hi, the perpetrator of these is likely the same clown memorialized on my talk page here. I don't edit much any more; just letting you know. Cheers, CliffC (talk) 17:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Heh, I knew something looked familiar about it...I was the one who posted that section on your talk page back in 2011. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Ha, thanks -- so much for my reading skills. I thought there was a third interested person... :-) --CliffC (talk) 17:42, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Heh, I was thinking I would let the 'citation needed' percolate for a bit, give them a chance to try to fix it and *then* delete it if still remained unsourced. You beat me to it, but that's fine. And I didn't remember I was the original editor posted all those links on your talk until I read it (just before I posted my first reply in this thread above). Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 18:02, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Well, there's progress to report... at least now they seem to have gotten a named account. Shearonink (talk) 13:02, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Progress indeed, now there's a single place to post our helpful messages, well done on those. Oh, how we try. Will keep your talk page on my watch list for a while. --CliffC (talk) 18:29, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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I'm not happy about what you said on my talk page. You don't know what you're talking about. Go to my talk and see the feedback I gave your comment. I want you to see it! I don't appreciate what you said. I don't. First of all, if you're not a dog expert, then it's none of your business. FYI- I know a lot about dogs, and I bet you don't. Get a dog expert to tell me that, not yourself. By posting that comment, you proved that you don't know anything about the article or my edit. I don't want to hear an explanation about why you did! I'm sick of it! I don't want to hear another thing. I have apologized to many Wikipedians about my articles. They have corrected me, and I have understood. But you are a different story! Who do you think you are?! By even ADDED that comment on my talk page, PROVED that you don't know anything about the topic, because my information is verifiable. Since you are a proffesional Wikipedian, I will follow your instructions, but I will be sure to report you. I will go back to Papillon (dog), and put where I got my information, but I will report you to everyone I know, and also hosts in the Teahouse. I will put my information in Papillon(dog), but I promise you, that I WILL report you unless you understand my information. I'm very sorry if this offended you. I REALLY DON'T want to hurt your feelings! I love your work, HONESTLY, but this is unacceptable. I actually don't want to offend you. I really hope I didn't hurt you or go overboard, or somehow offend your work. I really hope I didn't! I really just don't appreciate what you did. Sorry if I hurt you, but I'm enraged. Have a good day. Actually I feel pretty bad, so I PROBABLY won't report you. I said probably. I'm sorry. Have a really great day, but remember that I'm still angry at you and your comment. DEIDRA C. (talk) 20:41, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Shearonink has been exceptionally polite to you and has tried his best to explain Wikipedia's basic tenants, which you haven't been following, to you. In return, you have done nothing but yell at him and threaten him. No one is going to take the time to help you if you continue to behave in this manner. You have to follow the same rules that everyone else here does, and that includes using sources to cite your information. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:50, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

No offense to you, Sven Manguard, but you don't even know what I've been through! If you went through what I did, you would be pretty angry. Wikipedia has given me nothing but trouble. Sometimes, I didn't do anything and I get notes. Wikipedia has been very rough. You probably wouldn't know that. Also, on my talk page I left him a message. I understand your concern for him, but I just didn't like how he didn't know how professional my information was. Also, I have NO idea where to put the verifiability resource. I don't see other sections with it, so I was confused. Wikipedia also hasn't been very polite to me. Most people have been nice, but some people have been confusing and strict. It's annoying sometimes. He was very polite, but I was pretty upset. He was very polite. I have left him a message, BTW. DEIDRA C. (talk) 21:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

As I promised.

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As I promised, here's a kitten! Sorry.

DEIDRA C. (talk) 21:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Something went worng ...

I created a new section and then the headline disappeared and I was tacked onto the end of the kitty picture.

I titled it "Thanks for the links and help." and it worked and then I edited it and then then something spliced the two together - not that I have any problem with kitties.

pcG

PcGnome (talk) 16:12, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

But you succesfully did this new section, right? lol. Maybe something got screwed up with the words or something. DEIDRA C. (talk) 19:31, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Bose Ikard

Took a look and there is a concern. Please revisit your nomination. Thanks, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 00:43, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, see my reply at Template:Did you know nominations/Bose Ikard. Shearonink (talk) 02:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Back at 'cha. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Re:"Johnson and Johnson"

(The post below is in reply to User talk:The Shadow-Fighter#Johnson .26_Johnson.)
It's not that anyone would get confused, it's just that "J&J" and "JNJ" are both abbreviations of "Jack and Jill" as well. So I think someone should put a notice or something so there's a shortcut to both articles.The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 18:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Haggis Hurling

Hi, Sorry about general blundering on Oct 02/03 2012 and thanks for your patience. Haggis edits on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haggis_hurling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haggis now completed. <phew> Catnipgumble (talk) 17:18, 3 October 2012 (UTC).

DYK for Bose Ikard

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

You were such a great help yesterday - making strides and even found a bug in the cite mechanism that they are fixing. All is submitted all last. I reviewed a great book in the 90s on the Black Cowboy - and will see if I can dig it up and find a reference for Ikard. Cheers! Victoriasays (talk) 16:57, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Draco Malfoy

Sorry

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No problem, I just wanted you to know...you just need to source your edits from reliable published sources, that's all Symbol thumbs up.svg. Sometimes the learning curve around Wikipedia can be a little steep. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 20:51, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Leaning even more!

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Thanks for your patience in getting me started!

Victoriasays (talk) 18:43, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg Enjoy the tea! LegoKontribsTalkM 01:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Ssssssssip...ahhhhhhh...de-lish. Shearonink (talk) 02:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, Shearonink. Please help contribute to my WikiProject. This WikiProject is about different cultures. If you can take some time and help contribute to it, that would be very nice of you. I am starting this project this week and would like to finish by next week. Please help me with this project. Thank you very much. Please answer on my talk page because I might not be able to keep track of who is contributing and who is not. I would like you to also share your culture. If you can give me a little summary about your culture such as, foods, lifestlye, holidays, traditions, e.t.c, that would be extremely helpful. Thank you. Pleas reply on MY talk page. Happy edits! Have a great day! DEIDRA C. (talk) 18:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Shearonink

I am new to Wikipedia & I have just created a noteworthy article "Shudra - The Rising... A Film" on the upcoming movie "Shudra - The Rising". You have wrote that this article is not "significant & important" enough to be added to wiki. I would request you to review it once again as this article supports to the existing topic of Wiki Shudra as a visual because the contents of shudra would be more liked by anybody in visuals & that is possible only when they are informed about such kind of movie & its links. This article has references of "Times of India" a leading newspaper of India, "Bollywood Hungama" a leading bollywood news site of Film Industry, moreover it has links on "IMDB" the international hub of movie database, we have our own website... there are hundreds of other links can be cited here, even if you just type "shudra" on any search engine or social websites (including google, youtube, facebook etc.) you will get the info of the film. As you have reviewed this article & found 'not acceptable' for wiki I wanted to ask you what else I should put in my article to get it accepted. I don't even know how to write on your talk page so I just edited one message on your page (plz don't take it as an offence) if this is supposed to be a message to you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdeepak scor (talkcontribs) 18:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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PcG's comments

Thanks for the links and help.

As an outsider newbie (getting to be a really old newbie), I tend to fumble around a lot - but I find what works and stick with it.

Here's my current dilemma:

There are ample citations that the Emperor's new clothes are simply divine!

When I try to point out that the emperor has no clothes I get hit with "no original research!".

(concerning orange) I get the distinct impression I'm being asked "who are you going to believe, a citation or your lyin' eyes?".

I've tried reading the help files, but having been written by people who already understand - they don't understand what I don't understand and tend to be of little actual help.

For instance, I just wanted to include a picture clearly showing the helmet stripe color is different than the sleeve colors.

But the uploading of a simple picture to a talk page put so many hurdles that I had to find another way.

In short, I'm not interested in taking the time of a college course in how to do things here. I think this place is very off-putting in that regard. Luckily I'm a stubborn cuss.

I also think there should be an area within, or maybe a sister site where things classified as "original research" can be sent to so that they won't be lost due to overly strict rules.

Call it the wikimudpen area or something. With a whole community of "new research", then people can check and maybe say "hey, I know a citation that will help you"..

Jes' sayin'

Thanks again, most of you are ruthless about cutting things out - but all of you turn out to be really nice people.

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Melungeon page

I went thru the past edits of people trying to keep the page updsted and Rwe has a bad history of removing anything added with the new up to date material. Also the section added from Joanne is one of the founders of the melungeon DNA project. Which makes Joanne a reliable source for the DNA dicussion section. Only jack goins and roberta estes' is being allowed in the dna section without Joanne...when Joanne was not only a founder of the project but she states the DNA found was not whats staed in the melungeon page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.174.113 (talk) 02:12, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Here is also a email directly from family tree dna on the melungeon DNA which states different from what the melungeon opage states...this being a email from who actually did the testing on the DNA.

helpdesk helpdesk@ftdna.com Tue, Aug 7, 2012 10:33 am What I can tell you is this: unless SNP testing is done to pinpoint a terminal branch, Y-DNA will not specifically identify Portuguese or any other nationality. It reveals ethnic origins. There's no such thing as a "Portuguese" or "Melungeon" test. The R1b1 group includes about 40% of Western Europe, which would include Spain and Portugal. However, the Iberian Peninsula also had waves of invaders from Northern Africa. The Moors ruled there for over 800 years so they left their genetic stamp, which is the origin of the E1b1 haplogroup in Spaini and Portugal. Only through SNP testing can specific clusters be identified.

This article has great information and extensive documentation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E1b1b_(Y-DNA).

Then the final group suspected of being Melungeon is Native American, and that Q1 haplogroup is just barely represented, but that's not unusual because we just don't have many men who have a direct paternal line in the Q haplogroup.

Again, haplogroups only show broad geographic areas of origin. SNP testing is required to pinpoint more specific locations and to do that you have to have enough participants to be able to group.

The admins of the Melungeon Project aren't hiding anything. The haplogroups and markers you see listed on the results pages are directly fed from FTDNA and they do not have an option of hiding any of them.

Unless you have questions about your own DNA testing, we'll consider this matter closed.

Please let us know if you have any questions or need further assistance. Thank you for choosing Family Tree DNA.

Janine Cloud Family Tree DNA :: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.174.113 (talk) 02:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Please refer to reliable sources and referencing for beginners for instructions about referencing information in Wikipedia articles. An unpublished source, such as an email or a personal interview or personal papers, is not considered a reliable source according to the Wikipedia guidelines. Forum postings or material from user-submitted websites (such as other Wikipedia articles) are also not considered to be reliable sources.Shearonink (talk) 02:52, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Also see the ANI thread about the sourcing issues of the content you added to Melungeon - published reliable sources have to be provided for information added to Wikipedia articles.Shearonink (talk) 02:58, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry I dropped out of it (iPad out of power). Thanks for trying to help but the issues I experienced recently are really about the abrasive culture of WP, the technical issues are just the means by which it is manifested. I can't fix the culture, but I can choose to walk away. Kerry (talk) 17:57, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

If you feel that's what you must do. Shearonink (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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I looked at both templates, and it appeared to me that the Level 1 was more intended for a wholly benign deletion of comments, since it discusses copy-editing others' comments, as well as basic rules of Wikipedia. Is there a guideline against skipping levels? If so, I was not aware of it, and I apologize to both you and Charles35. Or is your point that his actions did not warrant beginning with a Level 2? My rationale was that he was clearly aware of what he was doing, and even included a message explaining that he was deleting WhatamIdoing's comments because "[he] would not let that be said about [him]." Is that insufficient rationale to start with a level 2? It didn't strike me as particularly harsh... it seemed like the appropriate response to an intentional but not altogether malicious deletion: It doesn't accuse the respondent of anything outright, but it also doesn't beat around the bush. But, as I said, if I'm misunderstanding the process here, or if the situation didn't warrant a Level 2, I truly apologize. I'm a bit new here, and I know there will be some things that I misunderstand. — further, Francophonie&Androphilie sayeth naught (Je vous invite à me parler) 05:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! I spent some time last night experimenting with RCP, and I think I got a much better handle for warning levels/types/etc. — further, Francophonie&Androphilie sayeth naught (Je vous invite à me parler) 23:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I would liek to wothdraw my Afc Review Request for the time-being, thanks, uvesian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uvesian (talkcontribs) 05:51, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

HTML tags on User talk:Polarscribe

I'm not too sure what you're trying to do here. HTML tags work in the following format: <opening></closing>. So <small>this is small</small> results in this is small. Legoktm (talk) 15:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I was just trying to say that I made a duplicate post on another page. But I got rid of the code anyway, in the end and just put that sentence within my post. My coding has never been very good, was just trying to clean it up, should have clicked on 'Edit' for the whole page rather than 'edit section'. Thanks anyway, Shearonink (talk) 15:24, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
No worries :) Help:HTML might be a good place to start, though it probably does need an overhaul/update. Legoktm (talk) 15:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Problem

Something is wrong with my preferences. I wonder if you can assist. Have I been vandalized????

  • I not longer get the editing toolbar.
  • Nothing happens when I try to reset my preferences.
  • The search box doesnt work while Im on a page editing.
I'm not very tech-y, but have you tried to sign onto WP from another computer, to see if it's something on your system or an issue between your account & WP, no matter what computer you're using? Could something have gone off with your browser or maybe could your computer have a virus or some kind of technical issue? If you've already gone into your preferences and tried to save, that's about all I got. I would ask in IRC, maybe try -en, there are usually a lot of more-accomplished coder/programmer types hanging out in there who might have better ideas. Good luck, Shearonink (talk) 14:45, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Update; Thanks! I did sign on from another comp which worked and let me know that the problem was at home. Not sure how but it seemed to self-repair. In my early adulthood I was a young apartment bldg maintenance man. My dads advice when some machine failed was to give it a little kick before calling the repairman. MOST times it worked like a charm. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. ```Buster Seven Talk 16:53, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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Talk;Melungeon

Just saw you did an archiving fix at this page and that you have participated in the article before[2]. Would you mind weighing in here Talk:Melungeon#Sourcing problem if you have the time? It actually still concerns the same IP editor and the same material as your edit that I linked above. A serious case of IDIDNTHEARTHAT has developed over the last few weeks and I am on the verge of losing patience and either throwing profanities at them or taking this to an admin board. Maybe some input from another editor would steer them toward more constructive editing. Anyway, if you can or if you can't, thanks in advance, Heiro 07:37, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, take a look at a post on my Archive 4 Archive 4...he's already been here. I'll post again, but have my doubts as to whether or not it will do any good... Shearonink (talk) 07:46, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
It's more along the lines of looking for a calmer voice who might get through, because I am about at my limit at trying to point them to WP:RELIABLE. The page is currently semi-ed, but I have a feeling as soon as it is not they will re-insert their unreliably sourced twaddle. When they do, I plan on my next stop being WP:3rr. Mebbe another editor will get through to them before that has to happen. Any help is appreciated, Heiro 07:54, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

The adventure of Montu miah

Here is the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Adventures_of_Montu_miah I really cant understand why this first of a kind 3D cartoon series in Whole Indian subcontinent Cannot be an Article in Wikipedia? This was done in 2000-2201 in those days there was no Online publication of Newspapers or magazines...till now there is a handful and with an archive from 2009-2011.

The ref#2 was from the software publisher: The cartoon was created with there software and they wanted to keep that as a success story.

but still I have couple of newspaper article and some Cover of magazines which I can scan upload. Is that going to help? It's funny you can buy DVDs from market, Some youtube links are also very much alive!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFHjDAnR9_Y www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgBDuGVTm4 www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Azhv8FC14

you can't say these cartoons are not real!even I just Google and found so many sites with illegal torrents sits.

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Please give me some advice how to publish this article in Wikipedia?

other online — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjmahmood (talkcontribs) 06:05, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I even don't know how to "talk" So here I am posting my side of argument.

You said 'Montu miah' appears to be important to you but for an article on a subject to be part of Wikipedia, the editor who creates the article has to prove the subject is notable.

My reply Well it's not only important to me but Bengali entertainment community. This is the first cartoon created in Bangladesh and broacasted by a national TV channel.It's a history even in Indian subcontinent level.I have seen the articles in [notable] section; and with respect I think I have added 2 newspaper article with date of publications. And a reference link of the POSER software publisher. Which proves the authenticity of this article well enough.

You said As far as I can tell, this particular cartoon had three episodes presented on a Bangladeshi national TV channel, but the assertions about its notability are not referenced from multiple, published, independent reliable sources.

My reply Well there was 3 episodes broadcasted by ETV and other 3 was from 'Channel I' so there was in total six episodes released. so it's total six. And I don't see how I can provide any reference since Bangladesh adapted digital archiving not before 2005-2007. There is no online resources to prove this except public blogs and stolen youtube clips.

You said VIsit the WP:Teahouse and ask for assistance there. My reply Thanks you will do...I do think I need to learn more.

You saidConsider visiting the Bengali Wikipedia (Main page of Bengali wikipedia) and ask for assistance in writing an article about 'Montu miah' for that Wikipedia project.

My reply that's a very good Idea. Thanks for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjmahmood (talkcontribs) 12:12, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


I have added 3 newspaper article with date of publications even with page number. 2 of them was scanned and uploaded as Images. This in fact Provides referenced from multiple, published, independent Sources which you suggested.

Regarding lack of online live archive reference I asked help at Teahouse and they replied as below.

You were asking at the Teahouse about how to deal with references that are not online. The answer is that references do not need to be online, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners#References not online. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Since Bangladeshi newspapers/magazine didn't had an online version or archive before 2005-7. Scanning and Uploading the printed material is my only way.

Thank youSjmahmood (talk) 13:34, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Please reply to this thread only on your talkpage. I archive my page quite frequently and you might have difficulty finding these posts in the future. I have posted a section on how to use one of the Wikipedia referencing tools. Please read through it and post any further responses there. Shearonink (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Please help this new editor

This editor is trying to add the following material to Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Articles for creation/The Adventures of Montu miah but has also added this material: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Adventures of Montu miah. I feel inadequate to really help them understand what they need to do to bring their content up to Wikipedia standards and would welcome someone else taking over. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, sure, in no time, but there are multiple issues–

  • Most probably, the title is wrong, it should be The Adventures of Montu Miah not, The Adventures of Montu miah (similar to Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and Adventures of Huckleberry Finn).
  • Most probably all images are copyvio, seems to be video screenshots!
  • Lack of citations and RS.
  • NPOV is disputed.
  • Some portion need to be Wikified.

Shut up Tito, you are not doing a peer review, it is just an AFC! Ignore I was talking to myself! Tell me how should I proceed! --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:30, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree that there are many issues (POV, WIkifying, sources are unreliable, etc., etc.), but this editor is really new plus there is a language issue, I think that I am not explaining what has to be done so he can 'get' it. I understand that this subject is important to him but I can't even quite figure out if the subject is notable or not. And, of course, there are two versions of the AfC, the malformed Wikipedia:Articles for creation/The Adventures of Montu miah and the almost-proper WP:MOS title of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Adventures of Montu miah. An admin will probably have to do a histmerge to move all the text & editing history over to Wikipedia talk:Articles for Creation/The Adventures of Montu Miah or possibly to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Adventures of Montu miah, whichever seems to be best (I have no idea about naming conventions in Bengal...anything that you can do would be great, especially if we can keep this editor from becoming too upset about his content possibly not being accepted. Take a look at User talk:Sjmahmood and User_talk:Shearonink#The_adventure_of_Montu_miah for some background. Shearonink (talk) 20:53, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Bengali Google search shows that was a notable series. And the newspaper scan they presented that too covers the subject as primary topic. I have reported 3 copyvios in Commons (though he has 1 or 2 more file(s), I have not reported those right now). --Tito Dutta (talk) 21:34, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Help on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_who_died_in_office

I know I have been evading a block for problematic editing, including insertion of poorly sourced or unsourced material on a variety of assassination and disaster-related topics over more than a year but I need a beeter image on this page.

Because look at the previsous one. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_who_died_in_office&oldid=524651560

I suggest you take it off immediately. Most readers, especially younger ones, do NOT want to see such a shocking and vulgar sight. I'm all for lax censorship on foul language and I know it is a drawing, but this is both an insult to Kennedy and the integrity of our readers. If there has be an image, use my one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.174.106 (talk) 16:12, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you stop your now-admitted socking/block-evasion. Ask for reinstatement and, if granted, post your thoughts on that article's talk page or on Talk:Assassination of John F. Kennedy and editorial consensus will speak for itself. Shearonink (talk) 16:36, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

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Nicole Haddad's sandbox

Speedy criterion U2 is only for userpages of users that have never existed. In this case, Nicole Haddad registered seventeen minutes before the page was created; see Special:Log/Nicole Haddad. However, as you note, the page was created by a different user; this isn't grounds for speedy deletion, but it's grounds for wondering whether this new username might be a sockpuppet. Let's wait to see if any edits come out of this new account. Nyttend (talk) 03:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Forgot to say — there's an easier way to check if a username has been registered. If you can see the "User contributions" link on the left side, the username has been registered. Try going to the userspace of the nonexistent User:SHEARONINK — you'll get a "This user doesn't exist" warning, and you won't see any links going to Special:Contributions/SHEARONINK, but you were able to see easily that Nicole had no edits because that link was there. Nyttend (talk) 03:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

Just trying to work out what else needs to be completed on the page: [1] Could you please assist with what is still needed to be completed for this to be approved.

Thanks! 59.167.120.56 (talk) 03:37, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

DC Meetup #33

December 10 is Ada Lovelace's birthday! Not only was she the world's first computer programmer, but also the world's first female open source developer! Come celebrate with Wikimedia District of Columbia at Busboys & Poets for an informal get together!

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genealogical relationships of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom

As this article says "This page is intended to reflect the page Genealogical relationships of Presidents of the United States." I am notifying all those who !voted in the AfD for that article about this AfD discussion. Dougweller (talk) 21:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Moving articles to Wikiversity

I've had a look. I think these might make a nice project for WV. Get them to write a main article explaining what they are doing and what the Federal Writers’ Project was, and then make all those pages into subpages of this main article. I hope this helps them. I'm now watching your page, so you can reply here.--Collingwood (talk) 12:40, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'm not sure anyone has been able to get a reply from the instructor, I'll have to check Talk:Dennis Brown and her talkpage. Shearonink (talk) 15:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 04:43, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Hand-coding

Hey all :).

I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).

You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at okeyes@wikimedia.org and I'll set you up with an account :).

If you'd like to chat with us about the research, or want live tutoring on the software, there will be an office hours session on Monday 17 December at 23:00 UTC in #wikimedia-officeconnect. Hope to see some of you there! Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:58, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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Edits at Sandy Hook

I think you may have accidentally reverted the wrong edits when you made your edit here. Masem had already removed the Bath School Disaster see also link. You can probably fix this by just self-reverting your own edit. Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 22:30, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

You're right about the 'See also' mention, but sometimes edits on fast-moving articles edits can be done at the same time, and, anyway, can't revert my edit summary...the information is still correct, though. Bath, with a death-toll of 45, is the most deadly mass murder at a public school (regardless of weaponry) in American history. Shearonink (talk) 22:36, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

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Edits to Sexual Conflict

Hello Shearonink! I deleted content from the "Sexual Conflict" page because the article was written very poorly. I attempted to clean it up by removing content that was superfluous or incorrectly sourced (usually by an error in interpretation). I was just learning how to mark the page for an extensive rewrite when I received your message actually lol.

-CanAnon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.119.165.91 (talkcontribs) 23:57, 1 January 2013(UTC)

I would suggest that you do any or all of the following then:
  • Consider registering for an account. That will protect your identity (as it is, your IP is revealed to others now) and other editors can leave notes on your talkpage or work with you on articles.
  • If you wish to rewrite that article, post on the article's talk page saying that you're working on improving it.
  • Use edit summaries - they are an editor's friend.

I'm going to post some helps on your IP's talkpage, so you'll have easy access to the information. My talkpage gets archived every so often, you might come back to look for this stuff and it could be kind of 'gone'. Shearonink (talk) 00:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Celebration and Mini-Conference in NYC Saturday Feb 23

Doing the "Open Space" thing at one of our earlier NYC Wiki-Conferences.

You are invited to celebrate Wikipedia Day and the 12th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at Wikipedia Day NYC on Saturday February 23, 2013 at New York University; sign up for Wikipedia Day NYC here, or at bit.ly/wikidaynyu. Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues!

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!--Pharos (talk) 03:16, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Henry Clay

I do agree that it is very overwhelming, and it should get trimmed back a little bit. My goal is to not have the Infobox exceed the "Early life and Political Career" section. I'm going to leave the Secretary of State and Speaker of the House part alone, because I think the historical value and knowledge on who proceeded and succeeded Clay in those offices are obviously more important than who was elected before him in the U.S. House. I just don't see how it's possible for someone to go from the Senate and House and bouncing between districts like Henry Clay did. >______> But thanks for the input, I'll see what I can accomplish without making it look like an incomplete article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bulba2036 (talkcontribs) 21:11, 2 January 2013‎(UTC)

This thread has been continued at the above poster's talk page, where I initially started this discussion, to keep the information all in one place. Please post any further replies there. Shearonink (talk) 21:28, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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Re:A couple of things...

Thank you very much for your message. It is editors like you who instead of complaining, actually help other editors in fixing their errors, that makes the Wikipeida experience a great one. I wish there were more like you. Tony the Marine (talk) 23:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help out as I can. Heh, you might be interested in the subst thingy posted below that explains how to use the Ref Toolbar...I found the original on-wiki and then tweaked it a little bit...got tired of trying to explain the ins and outs of referencing in #wikipedia-en-help (and not doing a good enough job of it) when the Ref Toolbar is so wonderfully easy to use... Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


School shooting

You're welcome. I typically don't edit articles about topics in the news, but I visited this talk page after editing the article to fix an accidental claim that Asa Hutchinson had headed a Liberian government agency (the Drug Enforcement Agency is not an alternate name for the Drug Enforcement Administration!), and I was quite surprised to see anything of a discussion about using retracted materials. Nyttend (talk) 19:46, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for your help in October...it's been a while: I told you I'd probably stay shy! Thanks for the haggis pic and the other helpful comments, anyway - just found them all when I logged on. Catnip Catnipgumble (talk) 02:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Help or advice

I am trying to start what I believe is a page about an important topic. My submission has been rejected as not being "encyclopedic enough" and containing personal opinion, though virtually everything in my article is referenced from other sources and it contains no personal opinions (an I am not connected to this subject in any way). The article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Cambridge Somerville Youth Study

Any advice you can offer would be most welcome. Please not that I am not good with Wikipedia style formatting! Brhebert (talk) 03:56, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Take a look at a few edits that I did to your AfC submission - Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Cambridge Somerville Youth Study - that should give you some ideas on how to proceed. I would also suggest that you go through the Wikipedia:Tutorial to help clear up any editing issues you think you might have. In looking at your draft, it does start to seem that most of the article is not about the Study itself but about McCord's follow-up and the possible fallout from her conclusions. You might want to find and use sources that are about the initial Study itself and not about the follow-up, otherwise the title would possibly need to be changed. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 06:06, 14 January 2013 (UTC)


Simple English proposal at the Pump

Hello,

As one of the participants in the original Village Pump RFC about getting the Simple Wiki to the top of the Languages, you are invited to participate in the reopened discussion of the same. Your feedback will be appreciated.

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Bath School disaster

Article is now a GA. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:41, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

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I keep bumping into excellent work from you, whether it's your exhaustive work helping to make Bath School Disaster pass review or your wonderfully well researched post on the AFD for Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting conspiracy theories Andrew327 01:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks from a beginner!

I greatly appreciate the time you took to correct my edits (Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Cambridge Somerville Youth Study) and the comments and suggestions you left. It took me quite a while just to figure out how to leave an acknowledgement through Wikipedia (here). I am only trying to get at least a stub inserted for what I consider an important issue that is not currently referenced. I have no connection or relationship to the article or research beyond not finding it on Wikipedia. I am also a bit frustrated at the hoops that must be jumped through to get an article posted. As for your and the other editor's comments about this being about the follow-up and not the original study; The original study had no conclusion, the follow up was the actual collection of results; without the follow-up this was just a case of taking a bunch of boys to Boy Scouts in 1939 (while annoying another group of boys). How would I change the name of the article to "The Cambridge Somerville Youth Study and Follow-Up"? I will try to re-write my article in an appropriate fashion. Brhebert (talk) 08:17, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

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Aeileon Page

Would you like me to send you photographs of being on set at the films I was in? Maybe you would like to contact my talent agency and speak with my agent. IMDB charges a fee to be listed on there, but I also have paycheck stubs from ABC/ Disney, PARKER WHICH IS BEING ADVERTISED EVERYWHERE... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiphoplegacy (talkcontribs) 03:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

No need to 'shout'. Please discuss the deletion at the following page. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Aeileon ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 04:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Changing article title

You gave me valuable advice on editing my article (The Cambridge Somerville Youth Study), how can I change the name or title of the article? I could add "follow-up" to the title: "The Cambridge Somerville Youth Study and Follow-Up" Brhebert (talk) 11:20, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Adding references can be easy

Just follow the steps 1, 2 and 3 as shown and fill in the details

Hello! Here's how to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain the Wikipedia policy of verifiability.

Adding well formatted references is actually quite easy:

  1. While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "Cite". Click on it.
  2. Then click on "Templates".
  3. Choose the most appropriate template and fill in as many details as you can. This will add a well formatted reference that is helpful in case the web URL (or "website link") becomes inactive in the future.
  4. Click on Preview when you're done filling out the 'Cite (web/news/book/journal)' to make sure that the reference is correct.
  5. Click on Insert to insert the reference into your editing window content.
  6. Click on Show preview to Preview all your editing changes.
  • Before clicking on Save page, check that a References header   ==References==   is near the end of the article.
  • And check that   {{Reflist}}    is directly underneath that header.
7.  Click on Save page. ...and you've just added a complete reference to a Wikipedia article.

You can read more about this on Help:Edit toolbar or see this video File:RefTools.ogv.
Hope this helps, --Shearonink (talk) 16:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Intentional links to disambiguation pages

Re this and related edits - the reasons DPL added the notification is because the hatnotes added to the other articles incorrectly linked directly to the disambiguation page instead of using the form with "(disambiguation)" in the title. FWIW, I believe the DPL bot will simply re-add the notice to the page until the direct links are fixed, so removing it is not very productive. If you don't want to fix the links yourself, you should leave the notice in place so other editors will notice and fix them. Cheers. olderwiser 14:41, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I am fixing all the links I added myself. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 14:47, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
See my responses at your talk page. Shearonink (talk) 15:06, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussion on the AFT5 Request for Comment

Hey Shearonink - this is to notify you that there is a discussion starting on the Article Feedback RfC talkpage that has ramifications for the RfC itself. Your input is much appreciated :). Thanks! and apologies if I've missed anyone Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Abraham Lincoln's final smile

I know I have been kicked off many times but after a wide-ranging search for the claim that Abraham Lincoln smiled a peaceful smile when he died, several accounts has come to light which partially supports this claim.


According to several accounts, as the president died, he smiled before his chest rose for the final time. And we know that shortly before he died, his breathing grew quieter, his face more calm. According to John Hay, as Lincoln died: "A look of unspeakable peace came over his worn features."

Even after Lincoln's death, there was still a smile on his lips:

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.172.0 (talkcontribs) 17:02, 28 January 2013‎(UTC)

"several accounts has come to light which partially supports this claim"? Um, no. These cited references say nothing about how Lincoln supposedly, himself, smiled this mythical last smile before he died. The text you are using states that 'the mouth was set in a very slight smile', meaning that the undertakers physically arranged the mouth into a smile instead of any other possible mouth/lips arrangement (just as they composed Lincoln's facial features including his eyebrows ("were arched") and eyes ("were closed"). Also, since I have realized that you have just posted an apparent copyright infringement upon my talkpage from Roger J. Norton's "Abraham Lincoln Assassination" website, the above pertinent text has been removed. Shearonink (talk) 17:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

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Thanks for collaborating in #wikipedia-en-help

Hybirdd (talk) 20:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

February 2013

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, please note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style, as you did in Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. In particular, MOS:MARKUP, recommends that you use HTML and CSS markup sparingly Toddst1 (talk) 21:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Look who actually wrote the box in the first place, maybe? But thanks for welcoming me and templating a regular. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 23:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Krystal Nicole Meyers Page

I don't know if the format is right here but you edited things in the past tense (your edit referenced below)using an assumption not based in fact "since Meyers has retired from performing" On the one hand you are right "Meyers" has (she will be returing under her married name, except/unless where to promote her maiden name "Meyers" will help her audience to find her. So, to that degree you are right that "Meyers" has retired. But to change tense stating it is because she has retired is a fallacy because she has not. You are taking a part and expanding it to a broad fact, that it is not a fact (that's just making an assumption) but calling it one.

03:53, 2 February 2013‎ Shearonink(talk | contribs)‎ . . (14,434 bytes) (+277)‎ . .(fixing some bare-URL references, adjusting verb-tense since Meyers has retired from performing) (undo)

EyesonChrist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyesonchrist (talkcontribs) 03:49, 3 February 2013(UTC)

All the news I have seen online states that she *has* retired. If you have information from published reliable sources stating that she is going to start touring or recording again, please share it. I am sure that her many fans would want to know. As I see it, beside the many references that are in danger of linkrot, tweaking the word choices from, for example, "Meyers has been on the cover of Nylon" to "Meyers was on the cover of Nylon" certainly now indicates that she has stepped away from the business/retired...the verb-tenses in the article were referring to events in 2008 and before as if they were continuing on into the present...it's 2013 and Miss Meyers hasn't made a record or toured or been on a magazine cover or had her music in a TV-show ad in around 4 or 5 years, *so* I adjusted some of the verb-tenses to reflect that fact. As to edit-summaries...I was explaining why I was editing....that's why it's called an edit summary. None of my edits or the content I added or deleted from this article reflects anything but what I could find in verifiable reliable sources. I also improved the article by fixing bare URL references that are against WP guidelines, even though in one reference I might have inadvertently added some extra linkage...if you cut&paste article titles from some online sources, these other systems automatically add the URL for the story, which can sometimes make extra work for us. But seriously, I have no idea why you are trying to take me to task for something that I consider an internal editing courtesy to fellow editors, an edit summary. Shearonink (talk) 04:33, 3 February 2013 (UTC)