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Request re: roach families

Hi. I am not adept at moving articles to new titles when the new titles already exist. The roach family "Blattellidae" is no longer known by that name, but where it needs to be moved is presently a redirects ("Ectobiidae"). The necessary print reference with full nomenclatural footnotes is [1], and a useful citation is the definitive online source, at [2]. I can help clean up broken links and text after the move (just let me know), but the major move is really long overdue. Thanks, Dyanega (talk) 21:59, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

@Dyanega: - Y - done. If it is a non-controversial taxonomic modification that needs a deletion or history merge in the process, please do not hesitate to ask. Shyamal (talk) 07:57, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

File:PicusCanus.ogg

Hi Shyamal - as part of a translation of Picus canus, it came to my attention that this audio sample that you contributed in 2008, is, as of 2014's revised species definition, now of Picus guerini - some info here. Perhaps the file should be renamed and the caption adjusted. Best wishes, Samsara 17:09, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the taxonomy update. Will do if someone else does not get it earlier. Shyamal (talk) 07:12, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Seems like IOC still treats it as a single species complex - will add subspecies to the data. Shyamal (talk) 03:53, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Malczewski

I added Alexei Malchevsky there. This is the same family name, it's English transcription of the Russian spelling. may be it would be good if you add the explanation.

Also I would like to discuss with you the sentence "he was told by Trofim Lysenko that the cuckoo was not a distinct species of birds and that he was to prove that it arose due to environmental influences". As I understand Trofim never told this directly to Malchevskiy, but readers could understand that they had conversation. Yes, Trofim Lysenko published crazy things at the end of his time of dominance in Soviet Biology. And this his phrase is one of the most cited. But I do not have an exact reference where he wrote it and I do not know how this phrase influenced Malchevsky's activity. Hunu (talk) 18:45, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you @Hunu:. I have added that it is a variant transcription. Regarding the Lysenko cuckoo matter I am going by Google Translate's result for "Он мне как-то рассказывал, что Т. Д. Лысенко утверждал, будто кукушка не отдельный вид, а возникает под воздействием среды, и требовал, чтобы Мальчевский это научно доказал." mentioned by Kalinin M.V.. I do see that Lysenko's cuckoo statement (that warblers became cuckoos through a change of diet!) was heard at a conference in 1953 "40. Lysenko made the cuckoo Suggestion at a Conference in February, 1953. Reported by P. A. Baranov, "O vidoobrazovanii," BZ, 1953, No. 5, p. 675." footnote in Joravsky, David (2010) The Lysenko Affair. University of Chicago Press. p. 398. - I imagine that Malchevsky was only amused by this (although I am sure he kept his views private and saved himself unlike Vavilov). Shyamal (talk) 06:57, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

I think that Kalinin could be a little bit wrong. Lysenko had no official position in Leningrad university. But his most unpleasant suppoter Isaak Prezent was at the same time a professor at the Leningrad University and dean at the University of Moscow in 1948-1951. I think it would be more accurate to say that Malchevsky was offered to confirm (aprove) Lysenko's idea that the cuckoo was not a distinct species of birds and that it arose due to environmental influences" Hunu (talk) 09:56, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I have altered the sentence so that it does not look like it was a direct interaction between the two. Shyamal (talk) 10:13, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

It's funny! I called my older colleague, who studied at the time of Lysenko. And he told that in 1959 Lysenko was giving a lecture at the Moscow University and said: "Everyone reminds me that I said that the cuckoo is coming from leaf warblers, as if there were no other mistakes" Hunu (talk) 12:06, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Behramji Malabari

Place of Death, inserted by me as India because google search of "Behramji Malabari " gives place of death as "Simla, Ukraine" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happy sage (talk • contribs) 09:37, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I think that is a Google knowledge graph bug - I am not sure where that data is drawn but Wikidata also looks ok. I will ask around but your fix in the article will quite definitely not change what Google Search shows. Shyamal (talk) 11:08, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

About Creating Article on KartRocket

Hi Shyamal, thanks for writing to me and it is really grateful to you that you are helping new users. Regarding Conflict of Interest, Yes, I'm part of the Organization and it is not paid a contribution. I believe KartRocket is a well-known name in the field of leading eCommerce platform in India and it has received significant coverage from various reliable sources. Please let me know how can we be able to create article for our brand.Raghavhere (talk) 04:43, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Responded on user page - Shyamal (talk) 13:41, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you so very much on the awesome (also, really quick, lightning speed) help on the common loon! I hope you have a great rest of the day! Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:06, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Rennell

Nice work on expanding this and so many other articles that I see your name popping in :) FYI, the current entry at ODNB has more on him. It is also less kind in certain areas. If you don't have access, please let me know. Cheers.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 14:55, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

It seems like the only balancing note missing was his opposition of Lambton's scheme. Shyamal (talk) 15:41, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Article: Humayun Abdulali

Hello, thank you for adding URLs to the citations on the Humayun Abdulali article. From my rudimentary knowledge of taxonomy, I understand that "humayuni" and "abdulali" are (parts of) taxa named for the ornithologist. If author abbreviation is not the right place to put them in the infobox, where else could they go? I have been manually updating the Wikidata entry for Humayun Abdulali and would greatly appreciate it if you could add the information contained in the text of the article to the appropriate blank fields in the infobox. -- Rohini (talk) 13:08, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

@Rohini: Hi, you don't need to fill in all parameters in these boxes. The fact is Abdulali has no contracted form. Linnaeus for instance is abbreviated to "Linn." Shyamal (talk) 13:11, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Range map request

Hello Shyamal! The range map of the common loon is not completely correct File:Gavia immer map.svg. The source of the range map has a dead link whose wayback machine archive is not present. According to HBW, as I discussed with Jim earlier, the resident year-round range is missing too. I don't know how to make a range map, so would you like to help me with it (hoping to learn too, so that I could help out with making more range maps in the future)? Thank you very much. Adityavagarwal (talk) 11:17, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I am happy to help if there are good quality source maps made available - I could not find good ones online, perhaps more books need to be examined, possibly multiple regional guides. Shyamal (talk) 11:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Jim sent me the HBW pages, so I have sent you those. Also, I have put all the information I was able to find in the D & H section of the article, so that might be helpful too. Adityavagarwal (talk) 12:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I got the text, obviously you cannot send attachments but now that I have replied to your email you can. Shyamal (talk) 13:49, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much for you help! I was wondering if you would be able to provide a prose review for the FAC too! However, due to any reason if you are unable to, that would be fine, so no worries! I hope you have a great rest of the day! Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:18, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Whyte’s double-collared sunbird

Hallo Shyamal, Do you think the template message in Whyte’s double-collared sunbird can be removed? I added references and some text, maybe my grammar needs improvement. Thanks beforehand for your help. Henrik, --HWN 12:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

@Hwdenie: Yes, nice work. Have removed the template. Shyamal (talk) 13:34, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick improvements! --HWN 13:55, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Avibase

Dear Shyamal, There is an extensive article FishBase but no lemma about avibase [3]. Is there a special reason to ignore that database? Anyhow I made an article in Dutch, but discovered that there are only Norwegian and Russian equivalents. --HWN 07:28, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

@Hwdenie: - I have not had to use it in the past. In fact it used to be quite outdated and unsuitable for use and somewhat like ITIS. I notice that it is now trying to be like ebird. I am not very keen on spending time on something like that - it seems to be a one-person outfit which makes it unlikely to last long. Shyamal (talk) 10:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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Range map request

Hello Shyamal, now that the Australian painted-snipe has been split from the greater painted-snipe, would it be possible to re-draw your original range map to match? Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 22:23, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Definitely, also a good opportunity to shift to SVG. Shyamal (talk) 02:50, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Have you seen a reliable source map - does the Australian divide along Wallace's line? Shyamal (talk) 08:03, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Even cleaner - the IUCN, IOC, Avibase and even eBird (which would report vagrants) all limit the Australian painted-snipe to continental Australia with no overlap with the greater painted-snipe. Lane and Rogers (2000), who proposed reinstating the split in Stilt 36:26-34, noted that with the exception of one vagrant sighted in New Zealand, no Australian painted-snipes have been found outside Australia. Loopy30 (talk) 12:30, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Just made a quick modification by cropping the map and removing the Australian patches. Shyamal (talk) 12:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Not sure I see the difference, maybe you haven't uploaded your latest version yet. Also, the 'Australian patches' you take out from this map could form the basis of a new map for the Australian painted-snipe page. Thanks again for your work on these, one of these days I will try my hand with an svg editor and see if I can help too. 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 22:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Loopy30: could be a caching issue with the browser. Try Ctrl+F5 or your browser-specific full refresh. Shyamal (talk) 02:01, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Looks great!! Loopy30 (talk) 02:11, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello again Shyamal, if you have time between creating new articles for ornithologists and entomologists, there is another range map svg file that might be easy to revise. The file: HypsipetesLeucocephalusMap.svg could be adjusted for the square-tailed bulbul (Hypsipetes ganeesa) just by removing all the names and the black area from the black bulbul, at your discretion. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 03:19, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

I actually left it that way so that people who come from before the split know how it goes. Shyamal (talk) 03:29, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Test

Indian railways IP 45.121.231.70 (talk) 00:44, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Rudolf Geigy

On 16 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rudolf Geigy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rudolf Geigy established health institutes on two continents and started a foundation that awards scholars who combine field and laboratory work in novel ways? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rudolf Geigy. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Rudolf Geigy), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: K. S. R. Krishna Raju (December 1)

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Hello! Shyamal, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! HINDWIKI • CHAT 02:01, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

KSRKR

Shyamal, when I first became aware of the Raju situation (being declined then moved to article space) it looked to me like a user who simply didn't agree with the decline. As someone who's been working at AFC a long time I see it often, and on first glance at the article I did not see sufficient notability to merit the move. Thus, rather than have it get sent to AFD and shipped back to draft, I kicked it back to the Draft space for further improvement. You're right, not-new users generally don't go through AFC (though I know a couple editors with dozens of creations that still use it as a "dummy check"), and so my assumption was therefore that both you and ChanduBandi needed the experience. Obviously I was wrong, and Andy's move of the page back to the Article space means that it's 2:1 in favour of moving the page, so I'll trust your judgements on this one. My apologies for the hassle. Primefac (talk) 17:54, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

@Primefac: No apologies needed. I am perfectly fine being treated on par with a newbie. What does really trouble me is that potentially good newbies are being repelled from Wikipedia by the kind of illiteracy being demonstrated by the AfC volunteers who do not seem to have any clue about what reliable sources are or what research journals contain (the fact that not all journal articles and not all its contents are primary - the findings are primary, the reviews and discussion usually make for excellent secondary sources - and lets not forget that it is peer-reviewed - although that may not hold in medical case journals - which all calls for information literacy), declining well-referenced material while passing off articles that are just a mess of short-lived mass-media weblinks that are being claimed as reliable sources. Shyamal (talk) 03:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Whilst, that was undoubtedly a horrible decline and a poor re-draftification, PFac is one of our most experienced volunteer sysops at AfC and on overall, AfC does a job quite well.That being said, if you find any problematic review by any reviewer, feel free to intervene.Winged Blades ^Godric 08:44, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm grateful to the individual who emailed me to tell me I'd been mentioned here, but not pinged. I see too many cases like this at AfC. What are AfC reviewers doing to ensure that the proper criteria are correctly applied? What checks and balances are in place as part of AfC processes? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:44, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

It's fairly impossible to have an overview, over any bulk process whose inclusion guidelines are fairly low.Still, DGG and Primefac tries their best.Recently, the efforts of Kudpung et al led to the sysop-protection of the AFC-reviewers-list which has led to each applicant being vetted.If you see any case like the review of this draft, please bring it to the attention of the individual reviewer and if you spot a series of bad reviews, post a thread over here asking for a removal of access.Also see this t/p thread.Regards:)Winged Blades ^Godric 16:08, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Andy, apologies for the lack of ping; I didn't intend on this becoming a huge discussion and thus didn't feel it was necessary.

As to your question (which was mostly answered by Godric above), I have every AFC reviewer's talk page on my watchlist (which is how I originally came across this issue). Obviously prolific reviewers will receive more questions/complaints, but I've gotten pretty good at quickly analysing the situations based on the reviewer's reply in order to determine if they're doing a "good job". I also run the statistics of every reviewer every month (thank goodness for Quarry) and check their accept/decline ratios. The average for Nov was about a 80% decline rate, and anyone who is significantly above or below that threshold (who has more than 1-2 reviews) will get looked at. For example, one reviewer declined all but one of the drafts they reviewed, but of the 1200 drafts almost all were easy quick-fails.

As mentioned above, if there is ever a question with a specific review, the reviewer should be contacted. If there is ever a question about a specific reviewer, then either I or WT:AFCP should be notified. Obviously, there's no issue of unilateral removal if someone's gone off the rails, but a post at AFCP would still be appreciated.

It's not a perfect process, but at the moment it's the best we've got. There have been a few discussions at AFC regarding possible fixes, and a few of them (such as full protection of the AFCH list) have been implemented, but if you have any thoughts or ideas for better improving what is ultimately a soul-crushing and thankless task, I am genuinely all-ears. Primefac (talk) 16:30, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Quality images

Looked again at your photos. Why not submit them for assessment at Quality image candidates? Here are my successes Quality Photographs by Notafly though I learned more from the failures.atb Robert Notafly (talk) 15:25, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Passing time

Dear Shyamal Nice to hear from you. Time passes more quickly now and I don't keep track of it. Very good photos and of course great finds as always. Are you interested in hawkmoths and an India list. I mention this because Didier Descouens is about a quarter way through the Laurent Schwarz collection in Toulouse 1,025 images so far and determined to complete what is a gargantuan task. I Imagine the set for India will be comprehensive.Never write a page without a memory of your early help.Very warm regards. Robert Notafly (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2017 (UTC) PS Did you get an e-mail from me about binoculars?

Good to hear! Yes I did see your email on the binoculars. Have added several Sphingidae images but the most spectacular is this Sataspes sp. Dr Ian Kitching at NHM is not sure of the species. https://File:Sataspes_India.jpg so there still can be surprises out here. Shyamal (talk) 00:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

@Notafly: Btw, I had given a Sri Lankan historian of natural history a copy of your transcription of Edgar Layard's MS and had asked him to write to you and credit you for it if he was publishing. I also sent some mails about it, but did not see any responses. This was in 2014. Shyamal (talk) 00:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Johann Wilhelm Helfer

Dedicated to you in recognition of your contributions to our knowledge of the history of natural history in India Johann Wilhelm Helfer (see the talk page) Warm regards Robert aka Notafly (talk) 21:27, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Interesting idea too. Shyamal (talk) 09:05, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	Wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
	A very Happy, Glorious, Prosperous Christmas and New Year! God bless!  — Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:02, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Wishing you the same! Shyamal (talk) 04:14, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Block template on User talk:Zeshan Mahmmod

There's a reason why the NOTHERE template has the indefinite wording. Maybe choose a more appropriate one in similar situations in the future? "[I]t appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia" basically tells the editor to go away, not just stop what they're doing. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:57, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

• Shyamal, do you suspect sockery here? In the absence of any fast alternatives, the resultant mess in the categories will be quite a hassle to deal with. – Uanfala (talk) 21:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC);

And pinging Yamaguchi先生 who I think I saw cleaning up after massive edits to the Pakistan navboxes earlier this month. – Uanfala (talk) 22:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Well,, Louis of Aragon was there first: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zeshan Mahmood. Anyone fancy swinging the sword of mass rollback? – Uanfala (talk) 01:28, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry I have come in late - I have a long term recollection of IP vandalism User:First_Light/Fauna_vandalism - we called them the nationalist vandal(s) - coming from somewhere in Manchester, UK - using categories for dubious political entities esp. in fauna and flora articles. Given that they now had a username, I thought I would give a chance so wanted a short block but yes did not find the right message option. Thanks for following up. Shyamal (talk) 01:45, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Ah, the Manchester area! That's precisely where 92.12.204.2 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is coming from and I find that IP's editing style indistinguishable from Zeshan Mahmood. – Uanfala (talk) 01:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Wood stork distribution

Thanks for making the wood stork distribution map, but it is a bit off. First off, it only really is resident in the peninsula of Flordia, and a bit up the eastern US coast. It winters up the east coast a bit further and the along the coast and above Florida till Mexico. In Mexico, it is resident along the eastern coast, all the way to about Panama. It can also be found on the western coast, just south of the contact point between Baja California and the rest of Mexico. In addition, there should be a barrier between the Central American population and the South American population south of the contact point between Panama and South America (see HBW map). Finally, there is no wintering population in South America; it should all be resident. Thanks! RileyBugz^会話_投稿記録 12:14, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

I drew it based on HBW (the book version and could not see much detail) - I will mark the image for deletion, maybe someone can do a better job. Shyamal (talk) 12:21, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Also, by the way, your copyedits weren't too high quality. For example, you replaced (and only in one instance) the convention of using "it" for adults in the article, and then forgot to change the conjugation of the verb after it. Don't worry; I've fixed all of this. But please, next time you do something such as this strive for higher quality. Thanks! RileyBugz^会話_投稿記録 20:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

First off my apologies for having elicited such a visceral reaction. My edits were only meant to be suggestive and I had not realized that you had not watched them them during the review period and considered the lack of your follow up to my edits as acceptance. I tend to care more about substance/content rather than form and most of my edit suggestions were in the spirit of reducing ambiguity and I am sorry if that was not achieved or if my intent has been misread. While I wish to stay away from the article I would like to point out in my defence that statements such as "while in areas with mangrove forests, it prefers brackish waters" - were edited because they appeared logically problematic. The availability of freshwater wetlands in mangrove areas seemed to me an unusual possibility. The term "preference" especially when used in the context of habitat or food choice is a function of both available alternatives and actual choice making - in this case the cited study does not seem to be from modern times where such terminologies are frowned up. Most old studies misuse the term "preference" when in fact they indicate differential usage and are not actually based on experimental studies that analyze actual choice being made when faced with alternatives. Similarly, in my reading I was unable to see the logical or causal connection in "areas with more lakes attract feeding on lake, stream, and river edges" (despite reading the cited source) but that may, as you point out, be an issue with my underlying knowledge, ability or assumptions and I certainly do not wish to continue any discussions or conflict with what seems to be your very carefully considered choice. Shyamal (talk) 06:14, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 3

And another, Coryne used to be a dab page, but only one of the entries was actually named or referred to the name Coryne. Can you move Coryne (hydrozoa) to overwrite Coryne? Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 14:00, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Loopy30: Done Shyamal (talk) 22:50, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 2

Hello again Shyamal, could you assist me with another page move? I wish to move Capitata (Hydrozoa) to overwrite the dab page Capitata. The other possible dab (Capitata Group) has now been placed as a hatnote at Capitata (Hydrozoa). Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 03:28, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Loopy30:  Done Shyamal (talk) 03:56, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Shyamal, can you also replace the page history of the new Capitata page with the revision history of the old Capitata (Hydrozoa) page? The current page history relates to when it was a dab page, a page that has effectively now been deleted. Loopy30 (talk) 12:26, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

I believe the histories of both pages are in there - I cannot see any deleted revisions that need to be made visible. Please do check. Shyamal (talk) 10:14, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Page move request

Hello Shyamal, could you assist me in a page move? There are two pages Benthocodon and Benthocodon hyalinus that have the same material, as an editor created the species page by copying the info from the genus page. I wish now to move the genus page and its edit history to Benthocodon hyalinus and leave Benthocodon as a redirect to the species page (as it is a monotypic genus). Thank you, Loopy30 (talk) 04:33, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

@Loopy30: I can do it but did the rule for monotypic species in zoology change from keeping it at the genus to keeping it at the species title? PS I know there was a long and tiring discussion on some change but I see that Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(fauna)#Monotypic_taxa would suggest keeping the article at Benthocodon with B. hyalinus as a redirect. Shyamal (talk) 04:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, but it seems to have been applied inconsistently across the projects (dinosaurs keep at genus, birds at species title) and when I started editing this area of marine invertebrates, the monotypic genera articles were mostly at the species title. There was some discussion on TOL recently, but no consensus to change. I can change the species level article to redirect to the genus and that would remove the newer (duplicate) article and that would keep it within policy as well. Loopy30 (talk) 04:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Ok, so that is solved. I guess it does not work for extant birds as the preference there would be for the "standard" English name with both genus and binomial being redirects but I was quite sure we are not that bad for extinct birds that have nothing but binomials to refer them by. Shyamal (talk) 05:06, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes, reading the talk pages I see that there is one rule for species where the most commonly used title is the scientific binomial and an "exception" for those with a vernacular named title. 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 05:20, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Now I will need some help in reverting my prior page move of Aglaura to Aglaura hemistoma. Could you assist again? Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 03:28, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done Shyamal (talk) 10:27, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Another request for cleanup of a monotypic species at a species page, can you move Homoeonema platygonon to Homoeonema, Varitentacula yantaiensis to Varitentacula, and also reverse both my page move of Halicreas to Halicreas minimum and Sro23's move of Halitrephes to Halitrephes maasi? Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 13:50, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done @Loopy30: Shyamal (talk) 14:57, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 4

Hello Shyamal, could you assist me again in moving Rhacostoma atlanticum to Rhacostoma? Currently, this monotypic genus page is a redirect page to the species page. Thank you, Loopy30 (talk) 13:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Loopy30: - Y Shyamal (talk) 18:08, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 5

Hello again Shyamal, the species article Polypodium hydriforme should also be moved to the genus page. Could you assist me in moving it over the redirect? Interestingly, this species belongs to a monotypic genus, family, order and class. Thank you, Loopy30 (talk) 13:00, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done @Loopy30: Shyamal (talk) 13:19, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

OOPS - I messed up. Now cleaning up. It clashes with the plant homonym. My bad.... Shyamal (talk) 13:22, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

A terrible, terrible lapse on my part. I need help from more experienced admins to split and recover the histories from the actions I have done in this case. Shyamal (talk) 13:43, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

OK, perhaps I should have checked the redirect page and set up a dab page in advance to prepare for the page move. Then I would have discovered the plant genus and family. I will pause and not edit the page right now so as to avoid edit conflicts. Loopy30 (talk) 13:51, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

User:DrKay has graciously cleaned up my mess - the cnidarian is at Polypodium (animal) and the fern genus is at Polypodium. Shyamal (talk) 14:24, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

My thanks to both of you. Happy editing, Loopy30 (talk) 14:28, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Have finally figured out how the history split is done. Was a misreading of the user-interface on my part - it seems there is selective revision undeletion but no selective revision deletion. Shyamal (talk) 03:03, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 6

Hello Shyamal, the species article Stellamedusa ventana should also be moved to the genus page. The genus page is currently a redirect. Thank you again, Loopy30 (talk) 03:40, 21 March 2018 (UTC)  Done Shyamal (talk) 06:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 7

Hello Shyamal, another day, another request. Can you move the species article Stygiomedusa gigantea to its (monotypic) genus page. The genus page is currently a redirect. Thank you again, Loopy30 (talk) 21:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Shyamal (talk) 03:06, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 8

Hello Shyamal, I have run into another page move that requires assistance. Can you move the species article Kyopoda lamberti to its (monotypic) genus page. The genus page is currently a redirect with page history. Thank you again, Loopy30 (talk) 12:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Shyamal (talk) 12:47, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 9

Hello Shyamal, yet another page move that requires assistance. Can you move the species article Maasella edwardsi to its (monotypic) genus page. The genus page is currently a redirect with a (very minimal) page history. Thank you, Loopy30 (talk) 01:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Shyamal (talk) 04:21, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Taxonomy template request 2

Diploclisia glaucescens (WikidataQ15248194) AshLin (talk) 19:09, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Done, but this is easy - in the Wikipedia section in Wikidata - enter "en" for the language - the article link "Diploclisia glaucescens" and hit the publish button - this automatically makes the inter(language)wiki links appear on the Wiki article and also ensure that the taxobar works. Shyamal (talk) 09:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 10

Hello Shyamal, Happy Easter. Could you please move the monotypic family Taiaroidae to the genus page (Taiaroa (coral)? The target is currently a redirect with very minimal page history. Thank you, Loopy30 (talk) 01:44, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done @Loopy30: Shyamal (talk) 12:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Taxonomy template request 3

Grewia umbellifera & Wikidata. Added the article in Wikipedia enrtry. Problem seems to be taxonomy template wrt Grewia. AshLin (talk) 17:19, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Seems to look fine. Let me know if I am missing something. @AshLin: Shyamal (talk) 12:42, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 11

Hello Shyamal, yet another page move that requires assistance. Can you move the monotypic family article Parisididae to its genus page, Parisis (genus). The genus page is currently a redirect with a very minimal page history. Thank you, Loopy30 (talk) 17:22, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Also, could you move Coenothecalia to the current accepted name (as per WoRMS) of Helioporacea. It is currently a re-direct with very minimal page history. Thank you, Loopy30 (talk) 03:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done Shyamal (talk) 03:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 03:22, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 12

I have another coral page move that requires assistance. Can you move Blue coral to its (monotypic) genus page, Heliopora. The genus page is currently a redirect with a very minimal page history. Thank you again, Loopy30 (talk) 03:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Loopy30: This might run afoul of the common name policy. Shyamal (talk) 03:57, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Of course, brainfart on my part that I just remembered... Loopy30 (talk) 11:00, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Page move request 13

Hello Shyamal, could move the article Actinoptilum molle to its monotypic genus page, Actinoptilum? The genus page is currently a small stub with nothing additional that is not already included on the species page. As the genus page has a small history, I do not know if we would have to merge the pages (requiring a discussion and consensus) or whether a standard over-write is possible. Loopy30 (talk) 12:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done histories are merged. Shyamal (talk) 13:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Clearing a photo for TV use

Hi Shyamal,

I work for Icon Films, a TV production company based in Bristol, England. We are working on our series Animal Airport, which follows the animals that travel through Heathrow Airport in London, and in one sequence we have filmed a staff member google searching for monitor lizards and your image of an Bengal monitor (https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Var%C3%A1nuszf%C3%A9l%C3%A9k#/media/File:Varanus_benghalensis.jpg) appears in the results. Unfortunately the creative commons license does not apply for our purposes, and we would need you to sign a release form explicitly giving us permission to show your image. Please email me at kieran.etoria-king@iconfilms.co.uk as soon as you can. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranIcon (talk • contribs) 10:15, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kieran, I had a look at your website and it seems like all old content that you produce is under standard copyright. I would like to see your company freeing / move towards using Creative Commons licenses for old content so that it can potentially feed back into public knowledge systems such as Wikipedia. A move like that would motivate Wikimedia Contributors to be more open to releasing content for temporary commercial use. Shyamal (talk) 02:05, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Solmundella

Hello Shyamal, we have two extant articles for the same subject, the monotypic genus Solmundella and its only species Solmundella bitentaculata. Both pages have the same information, as the genus page was created in January by copying the contents of the species page (without attribution) by a user who is now banned indefinitely as a sock-master with multiple disruptive edits. As the species page is much older (and original), I propose deleting the existing genus page to make way for a move (rename) of the present species page to the genus name. Your thoughts? 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 02:33, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done Agree that the copy-paste move history is unimportant. Moved. Shyamal (talk) 02:49, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

The GA Reviewer's Barnstar

Thank you for your work on evaluating articles that have been proposed for Good Article status. Many times, reviewers don't get noticed for their work. Reviewing an article and working with other editors to improve content takes effort. In addition, a commitment to put aside a block of time for the review is also needed to finish the process. I don't think most other editors realize what a service you are doing to improve the quality of content. What you do provides an incentive for the continuing improvement of content. You’ve put in the time and effort to improve content and therefore deserve recognition and appreciation.
The Very Best of Regards, Barbara ✐  ✉ 14:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Shyamal (talk) 03:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)