User talk:Sky Harbor

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Incubator Cleanup[edit]

Hello, Josh.

I am an administrator on Wikimedia Incubator, and I'm trying to clean up some old tests. In particular, there are still remnants of those Babayin tests sitting there at incubator:Wp/tgl, incubator:Wt/tgl, and incubator:Wq/tgl. As far as I can tell, the two people who actually contributed to those tests are both pretty scarce these days, so you seem to me to be the best person to consult about this.

In theory, projects rejected by the Language Committee can remain open on Incubator, can be improved, and can be submitted again. In practice, (a) these projects have not been edited in a meaningful way in several years, and (b) the impression I have from the discussions at Meta are that these will no way, no how, ever be approved. So under those circumstances, we would normally delete the projects on Incubator.

There are a couple of options here:

  • The normal practice when truly deleting a project is to archive it to an XML file in case anyone wants it in the future, or wants to transfer it to Incubator Plus or some other non-Wikimedia wiki. We can certainly do that.
    In truth, the Wikiquote test project has only a Main Page and an administrative template. The Wiktionary test project has a Main Page, an administrative template, and one other page ("Imeldific"). The Wikipedia test project does have a handful of pages.
  • What you could do—what I might have suggested at the time—is to create a new namespace within the Tagalog projects solely for pages in Babayin. This way, those pages could be allowed to exist semi-autonomously while not interfering with the rest of content of the projects.

So I wonder if you can tell me how you might like to handle this situation. There's no particular rush, and in particular I'm sure that if you actually want to create a new namespace, some community discussion will be needed. But if we can put closure on this one way or the other I'd greatly appreciate that. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:46, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi StevenJ81, and thanks for informing me of this. I have been traveling the last few weeks and I was unable to go online. However, know that I will look into this, and I look forward to working with you to come up with an amicable solution to the problem. --Sky Harbor (talk) 02:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi back at you, and welcome back. Know that I don't have a skin in the game here. If the "amicable solution" is that you don't want it, I personally won't lose sleep over it. Yet while there is clearly no cause for separate Babayin projects here, it might be quite reasonable to incorporate them into the tl projects. I present as an example for you a page from Judeo-Spanish (Ladino) Wikipedia here. These days, Judeo-Spanish is usually written in Latin alphabet, but it was traditionally written in Hebrew script, and we have content of both types at ladwiki. On that page, you can see the approach we've used for incorporating both scripts. (A built-in converter like is used at Kazakh or Serbo-Croatian is just not viable for us.) I could see something like we use at ladwiki, and/or use of a separate namespace, as a viable option for Babayin (as opposed to just dumping it).
Separately, when we're finished with this, I'd also like to discuss the fil test projects with you. incubator:Wp/fil is the only one with any meaningful content, but Langcom seems to lean toward the view that these should be folded into tl projects. So I'll probably want you (or a group of tl contributors) to see if there is anything worth keeping there, or alternatively whether you think there is a case to make for keeping separate projects. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:38, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Reaching out one month later, as I see you were active on Meta Requests for languages today. Any thoughts on Babayin? Again, there's not exactly a rush, but on the other hand I don't want to leave it hanging. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Trout me. That was a year ago, plus a day. I probably wrote the wrong year on a check last night, too. Still, I'd like to hear from you. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:41, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Update 16 February 2017[edit]

I never heard from you. So the Baybayin pages have been archived to an XML file and deleted from Incubator. If you (or anyone else) wants to make use of it, either within the Tagalog projects here or in a place like Incubator Plus, let me know. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:26, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

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