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Proposed deletion of 2013 Ethiopian Air Force An-12 crash[edit]

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The article 2013 Ethiopian Air Force An-12 crash has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Military aircraft accidents are rarely notable and I cant see anything in this accident of note

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. MilborneOne (talk) 11:27, 9 August 2014 (UTC)


While I tend to agree with the general statement that "military accidents are rarely notable", this accident may fall under the exceptions to that rule. For starters, the accident took place at a civilian airport unlike most military accidents. Furthermore, the cargo of the aircraft is noteworthy as it demonstrates Ethiopia's participation in the supply chain to AMISOM/Somali military forces prior to the formal acknowledgement/inclusion of Ethiopian troops into AMISOM in January 2014. When the Somali conflict eventually ends and its history is finally written, this accident may actually be seen as one of the catalysts that drove Ethiopia to formally join the AMISOM command structure.

I believe that the accident meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines as it has received "significant coverage" from "reliable sources". Furthermore, as described above, it is likely to have "enduring historical significance" internationally, and unquestionably "widespread national impact" in Somalia and Ethiopia. Furthermore, as a fatal accident that occurred at a civilian airport, its inclusion in the various tables of aviation accidents helps contribute significantly to Wikipedia's value as a data resource.

SM105 (talk) 14:11, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of 2013 Ethiopian Air Force An-12 crash for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2013 Ethiopian Air Force An-12 crash is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013 Ethiopian Air Force An-12 crash until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ...William 14:43, 9 August 2014 (UTC)