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So, naturalists observe, a flea
Hath smaller fleas that on him prey;
And these have smaller still to bit 'em;
And so proceed ad infinitum.
Thus every poet, in his kind,
Is bit by him that comes behind.
Jonathan Swift, On Poetry: A Rhapsody (1733)
No, not these small bones, it's a family name

Thank you[edit]

I've seen how much you hate paid editors, and continuously making an effort to stop them, I really grateful to have you here on English Wikipedia :D .--AldNonUcallin?☎ 15:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

@Aldnonymous: Thanks for noticing! It's always good to get positive feedback. I will correct you, however, I don't hate paid editors, rather it is paid editing that is hateful. It is tearing down a wonderful structure that has been built up by many volunteers, that provides good information to whoever has access to the internet. If that information is poisoned, and people can't trust us, then the whole structure may collapse.
Your post reminded me of a news story from a couple of decades ago. After the fall of the Soviet Union people started cutting down and selling copper cable from high power electrical transmission systems (nominally still in use). I don't hate those folks who cut down the cable - they were doing what they had to do to survive. I did hate the fact that the transmission systems were being destroyed. It just seemed like there must be a pretty simple enforcement system that would stop the destruction. Everybody likely knew who was buying the cable - these folks could be stopped fairly simply if anybody took the obvious steps. Similarly, most people likely knew who was cutting the cable or where to look to stop folks from cutting more. So the system was messed up, but the parts of the system that led to the destruction of the cable could easily be fixed. The actual folks who cut the cable, in my mind, were less responsible than the authorities who couldn't be bothered to take a few minimal steps. That's my reading in any case.
Thanks again.
Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:32, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
That was insightful, I'm the one who should thanking you (again :D), and... You're welcome.--AldNonUcallin?☎ 19:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Editor of the Week[edit]

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Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week, for integrity and valiance in the fight against paid editing. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Coretheapple submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate Smallbones as Editor of the Week for the integrity that he brings to the project, and for his yeoman work - unsung, unrecognized, unappreciated - fighting to preserve Wikipedia from encroachments by paid editors. He has been an editor for more than eight and a half years, and during that time has edited a staggering 11,337 articles at last count. He is not an administrator, heaven only knows why (too much sense?), but a content contributor par excellence, with in excess of 31,000 edits, 65% of them in article space. He is a generalist's generalist, with his top contributions ranging from Bernard Madoff to Media, Pennsylvania. But his prodigious talents as a contributor are not the only assets he brings to the project. No one has fought longer and more valiantly against paid editing. It is a great pleasure to nominate Smallbones for Editor of the Week.

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Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 16:04, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your continuing concern over the issue and your calm, level-headed approach. ```Buster Seven Talk 18:36, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Wow! It's always great to get feedback like this. Thanks Coretheapple and Buster7 Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:49, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Hey Smallbones, just wanted to express my thanks as well for both for your contributions and your engagement with others on broader ideas with Wikipedia that I've seen on Jimbo's talk page and other spots. I often find it difficult to jump into those conversations myself, but I do read them, and I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I, JethroBT drop me a line 02:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Very pleased to propose this. Your contributions are tremendously appreciated. Coretheapple (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Photo requests in Hazleton[edit]

Do you have any plans to go to back to Hazleton anytime soon? If so, may I suggest some photo request ideas? WhisperToMe (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: I've got a ton of other things to do in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, but Hazelton looks pretty well covered. Look in Commons, esp. in the Postcards category. I might make it up there by late September. Leave me a list if you'd like. Smallbones(smalltalk) 22:22, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Ok! The list is related to the public school system, Hazleton Area School District
  • Hazle Township (five facilities are together)
    • HASD administrative headquarters: 1515 West 23rd Street, Hazle Township, PA 18202
    • Hazleton Area Career Center: 1451 W 23rd St, Hazle Township, PA 18202
    • Hazleton Area High School: 1601 W 23rd St, Hazle Township, PA 18202
    • Hazle Township Early Learning Center: 1400 West 23rd Street, Hazle Township, PA 18202
    • Maple Manor Elementary / Middle School: 1700 West 22nd Street, Hazle Township, PA 18202
  • Hazleton:
    • Hazleton Elementary / Middle School: 700 North Wyoming Street, Hazleton, PA 18201
    • Heights-Terrace Elementary / Middle School: 275 Mill Street, Hazleton, PA 18201
    • Arthur Street Elementary School: 424 East Ninth Street, Hazleton, PA 18201
  • Drums:
    • Drums Elementary/Middle School: 85 S. Old Turnpike Road, Drums, PA 18222
    • Hazleton Area Academy of Sciences: 40 Azalea Drive, Drums, PA 18222
  • Freeland: Freeland Elementary / Middle School: 400 Alvin Street, Freeland, PA 18224
  • McAdoo: McAdoo-Kelayres Elementary / Middle School: 15 Kelayres Road, McAdoo, PA 18237
  • Sugarloaf: Valley Elementary / Middle School, 79 Rock Glen Road, Sugarloaf, PA 18249
  • West Hazleton: West Hazleton Elementary / Middle School: 325 North St., West Hazleton, PA 18202
WhisperToMe (talk) 22:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Banc De Binary[edit]

Can you please tell me why you're insisting on retaining unverified claims on the page?--Tianderni (talk) 16:52, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Banc de Binary is prohibited from advertising in the US by the SEC. Please don't mess with it. Smallbones(smalltalk) 16:55, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Yes they are and it is on the article. But Banc de Binary is not banned in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand so why you are keeping this fact. Can you please give a reliable source? Then I will add it back myself. --Tianderni (talk) 17:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Photo request: Islamic school and Arab grocery in Philly[edit]

I found out about the en:Al-Aqsa Islamic Academy and Society (1501 N Germantown Avenue, Philadelphia, PA 19122) and the Al Amana Grocery and Islamic Bookstore. Are you interested in photographing them? WhisperToMe (talk) 14:18, 26 September 2016 (UTC)


You can add any page to the "Wayback Machine" via this link. Coretheapple (talk) 17:23, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


Apparently, Template:Reflist-talk needs to be applied to your reference on User talk:Jimbo Wales, but I am not sure how.
Wavelength (talk) 00:34, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Done (diff). Johnuniq (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Do you know how to do this?[edit]

I'm trying to revert Evergreen Cemetery (Adams County, Pennsylvania) back to its original name, Evergreen Cemetery (Gettysburg, Pennsylvania). (Technically, the original name was Evergreen Cemetery (Gettysburg, PA).) The directions say an administrator must do the move. Please take a look at the article and see if you agree. Thanks, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:57, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate your efforts. The article on Evergreen Cemetery and the one on its gatehouse seem to go to strange lengths to downplay their connections to Gettysburg. To me, Evergreen Cemetery (Gettysburg, Pennsylvania) is a FAR more useful name for the average user, even if the cemetery technically is outside the borough. I didn't find the Articles for Deletion discussion until after I left you the message.
I may be heading to Gettysburg next weekend. My nephew -- a sophomore at Penn -- wants to borrow a car to go to Gettysburg. If I tag along, I'll try to get photos of the last 20-or-so monuments that need images.
Ha, ha. Jokes/puns are always welcome. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:11, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

New to me[edit]

CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS and SAILORS MONUMENT, CONFEDERATE SECTION. VIEW TO NORTHWEST. - Philadelphia National Cemetery, Haines Street and Limekiln Pike, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, PA HALS PA-2-11.tif

I had no idea Northwest Philadelphia had a Confederate Soldiers and Sailors Monument. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 04:02, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Revert on SpotOption[edit]

I fail to understand why you reverted my edit on SpotOption, and your post to WP:COIN doesn't explain anything with regards to my edit. I removed contentious material about a living person sourced to an unreliable source, in accordance with guidelines and policy. Please revert back to my version. If you have a reliable source that supports the content, please provide it instead. Thank you in advance. Waggie (talk) 19:08, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

ANI notice[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Gouyoku (talk) 02:10, 11 May 2017 (UTC)


I want the board to be held accountable by the community. That would mean to vote them out, among other things. QuackGuru (talk) 20:41, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

May 24: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

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Wikimedian in Residence at the Univesity of Pittsburgh[edit]

I have opportunity to be hired as a Wikimedian in Residence at the University of Pittsburgh in the near future. What kind of communication is needed from the University to make this appointment official? Best Regards,

Barbara (WVS)


I just read about your work combating the binary trolls.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Good for you! I think a reference to this belongs in both the binary options and Banc de Binary articles. Brief, though, just a sentence. Coretheapple (talk) 14:39, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Congratulations. "Clearly a very dodgy company" sounds like another editor I know ... but not credited ... - Bri (talk) 19:12, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
@Bri: I'm not entirely sure where the interviewer got that, probably the talk page at Jimbo Wales which I mentioned to her as background material. I did notice a couple of times she quoted others uncredited. Maybe @Nagle: as well. 3 points:
  • I'm sure the Times of Israel knows the proper fair use standards in Israel.
  • If that was you being quoted - I think you got some extra mileage beyond want you expected when you wrote it.
  • Thanks, just thanks. If there is anything I can do to give proper credit, please just let me know.
Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:27, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I thought at first it was a certain British admin, but it turned out not to be (you're right, Jimbo talk Archive 164). However, they did quote me elsewhere w/o credit: "...badly polluted by promotional editors..." As you say, "extra mileage" for my effort is okay in itself. - Bri (talk) 20:56, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
By the way if somebody reads this and is mystified we're discussing User talk:Jimbo Wales#Times of Israel on Wikipedia/binary options/paid editing. - Bri (talk) 00:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Ravenna (Natchez, Mississippi)[edit]

I have wondered the same thing. Why two listings?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Zigzig20s I briefly looked at the two nominations and the nom photos. I won't have a chance to do a thorough reading until Monday, but it looks to me like 2 buildings in a similar style (but 1 without a tower) at the same address, but with different coordinates! And similar names. Something has to give. If you are in the neighborhood, visiting in person would probably help. I'll try looking at Google street view now. BTW something very similar happened on the Sitka, Alaska list yesterday. Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:44, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
They are next door to each other with Ravennaside and its tower viewable on Google Street view. From the Ravennaside nom. "Ravennaside was built- , by Mrs. Byrnes' parents, Anna Metealfe Fleming..and James S. Fleming,

on land acquired by Anna's father in 1884 (Adams Co., Miss., Deed Book 22:9). The site adjoins the property of Ravenna (ca. 1837), home of the Metealfe family since 1857. Roane, eldest child of Anna and James, was twelve in 1902 when her family moved from Ravenna into their new house, Ravennaside. " Smallbones(smalltalk) 20:09, 2 June 2017 (UTC)


I hope you're well (and, like me, dreading the heat wave coming tomorrow). I'm just beginning this article, but I found it confusing dealing with all the Furnesseseses. Do you find it awkward, off-putting or disrespectful for me to use "HHF" for Horace? Thanks. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 01:29, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thursday June 22: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA[edit]

Thursday June 22, 6-8:30pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA
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Archived from Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest[edit]

Hello. The milieus and proposals are individually closed, so the full closure could be done by other team volunteers. However, I see that you've archived the whole discussion into Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest/Archive 27. May you please explain why? Thanks. --George Ho (talk) 21:48, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh... I see you asked, which the proposer okay-ed the archiving. --George Ho (talk) 21:57, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

What do you think about this response from Meta-wiki? Would this persuade you into un-archiving it? --George Ho (talk) 12:28, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Before you archived, I put the "do not archive until" comment to prevent the bot archiving. Therefore, I would have awaited Primefac, S Marshall, and KrakatoaKatie's teamwork closure after doing separate closures. Do you believe that WMF would likely reject the consensus after all this? --George Ho (talk) 12:43, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Never mind the request for joint teamwork closure. Maybe another RfC in the future? ;) --George Ho (talk) 13:28, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

I explained why key closures by us "non-admins" were done, and then pinged you and Casliber. You can explain there if you want. --George Ho (talk) 13:10, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Didn't seem like one person is still happy with the archiving. --George Ho (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

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AfD:Supersymmetric theory of stochastic dynamics[edit]

Vasilii Tiorkin (talk) 20:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC) Hello, thank you for your comment on "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Supersymmetric theory of stochastic dynamics" where you suggested to move the discussion to a talk page. Allow me to ask you a few questions to clarify your suggestion. Which talk page did you mean, the wikipage's talk page or the corresponding AfD project's talk page ? Should we remove the AfD notice box on top of the wikipage ? Also, your interpretation that "there are enough references in the physics literature, but this is written for mathematicians so is more like original research " is accurate, though with a subtle correction. The page/theory is written by physicists and for physicists. The previous version, however, did not have enough references on earlier papers so that a mathematician flagged it for deletion. This mistake, however, is corrected and now the page has all the references on the history of the theory.

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Thanks very much[edit]

Quite a thrill to see that POST-ed. Almost as if the SUN was shining. Ahahahahaha...ha...hahaha...ha.

(For what it's worth, I did mention WP:NRHP in the interview, but I guess it didn't make the cut. Oh, well.) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:37, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Parker Metal Decoration Company Plant[edit]

Hi. In 2012 you uploaded File:Baltimore Parker Metal.JPG and added it to Parker Metal Decoration Company Plant. A few days ago an IP added a paragraph to the article in this edit, claiming it's not the right building. I have no idea if he's right or not, but I temporarily removed the image until you have a chance to check it out. If it is the correct building, please feel free to put it back, or just let me know and I will. Station1 (talk) 01:50, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Station1, thanks, it looks like he was right. The real site is equally nondescript a block or so away stuck between 2 interstate ramps. Sorry about that. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:07, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


Please engage in discussion before you revert the edit again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gouyoku (talkcontribs) 20:02, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk page guidelines[edit]

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Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]


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Absolutely not. The introduction is supposed to be a broad summary of the article, and the banner at the top is eminently deserved: the article needs to be written from secondary sources, not primary sources like news reports. I don't remember discussing your professional background before (whether on-wiki, by email, or face-to-face), but I don't see how that's relevant to the issue of the page presenting a grossly newsy style rather than being an encyclopedia article with equal weight on all periods of the organisation's history. Nyttend (talk) 00:40, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

PS, I'm not going to bother editing the article again. I wasn't aware that this was the subject of conflict, and I've learnt not to wade into situations where people are insistent on writing a hit piece with primary sources. Nyttend (talk) 00:41, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Understood, but where are the secondary sources? Remember that you're writing history here, so following the historical definition of secondary sources is just as critical as following the medical definition of secondary sources when writing about medicine. Nyttend (talk) 00:53, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
PS, your You don't want to help these guys rip off more customers, do you is profoundly troubling: this is an encyclopedia, not a place to right great wrongs. Nyttend (talk) 00:55, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Please educate yourself on the definition of a primary source in history: it's one written at the time of an event, in the context of that event (or a later-compiled record such as an oral history that presents a participant's perspective), while a secondary source is written later based on primary sources. Can you find me Ph.D. dissertations in history, or JAH or AHR articles, that include news reports in their literature reviews, for example? Instead, you'll find plenty of Ph.D. dissertations in history and articles in those journals that rely on news reports as primary sources. The idea of a news report being a secondary source for the event in question is an idea that departs significantly from the prevailing views or mainstream views in its particular field, and it needs to be treated thus. Nyttend (talk) 02:02, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

ANI discussion[edit]

This ANI discussion may be of interest to you, as well as talk-page stalkers experienced with COI and paid editing issues. Res ipsa loquitur. Coretheapple (talk) 22:25, 19 July 2017 (UTC)