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Sorry for the late reply. Feel free to reuse that title for Wikipedia: Notability (numbers), or a redirect to it. Cheers. Michael Z. 2007-10-08 20:49 Z

go ahead and delete these two[edit]

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Help Project newsletter : Issue 4[edit]

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The Help Project Newsletter
Issue IV - September 2012
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From the editor

Hi, and welcome to the fourth issue of the Help Project newsletter.

It's been another busy month in the world of Wikipedia help. The results from the in-person usability tests conducted as part of the help pages fellowship have been released. There are no great surprises here, the tests confirmed that people have trouble with the existing help system, and people looking for help on the same topic often end up at wildly different pages. Editors who experienced a tutorial and/or edited a sandbox as part of their learning were noticeably more confident when editing a real article.

Drawing on that, three new "Introduction to" tutorials for new users have been created: referencing, uploading images and navigating Wikipedia. These join the popular existing introductions to policies and guidelines and talk pages. Feel free to edit them, but please do remember that the idea is to keep them simple and as free from extraneous details as possible. All three have been added to Help:Getting started, which is intended to be the new focal point for new editors, and will also be seeing a redesign soon.

In other news, the Article Feedback Tool (AFT) can now be used to collect feedback on help pages. By default it has been deployed to all pages in the Help: namespace. It can be disabled on any page by adding Category:Article Feedback Blacklist, or enabled for pages in other namespaces by adding Category:Article Feedback 5 Additional Articles. Once a page has AFT applied, you can add feedback using the form which appears at the bottom of it. Feedback can be reviewed by clicking "View feedback" in the sidebar, or the "Feedback from my watched pages" link at the top of your watchlist.

I'm now entering the final month of my fellowship, and will be focusing my efforts on making much needed improvements to Help:Contents, the main entrance point to our help system. It's been a pleasure working as a fellow, and I just want to thank all the people who have helped me or offered advice over the past months. That definitely won't be the end of my involvement in the Help Project though, I'll be sticking around as a volunteer and continuing to write this newsletter.

Any comments or suggestions for future issues are welcome at Wikipedia:Help Project/Newsletter. If you don't wish to receive this newsletter on your talk page in future then just edit the participants page and add "no newsletter" next to your name.

-- the wub "?!" 20:00, 7 September 2012 (UTC)


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Help Project newsletter : Issue 5[edit]

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Issue V - January 2013
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From the editor

Hello again from the Help Project!

In the last newsletter (which was quite a while ago sorry!) I talked about my fellowship and the plans for improving the main portal page, Help:Contents. Well I'm sad to say that my fellowship is now over, but very happy to say that the proposed improvements to that page have been completed and implemented. Do check it out if you haven't already.

Another important and frequently used help page, Wikipedia:Contact us, has also seen a significant revamp. You may recognise the design inspiration from the new tutorial pages.

In project news, we now have a subscription to the "article alerts" service. Any deletion nominations, move discussions, or requests for comments on pages within the Help Project's scope will now show up at Wikipedia:Help Project/Article alerts. So that's definitely a page which project members might want to watch.

Any comments or suggestions for future issues are welcome at Wikipedia:Help Project/Newsletter. If you don't wish to receive this newsletter on your talk page in future then just edit the participants page and add "no newsletter" next to your name.

-- the wub "?!" 23:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject:REHAB update[edit]

You signed up for WikiProject User Rehab

Hi there, I'm RDN1F. It's come to my attention that you've signed up for WikiProject Rehab, but since that time the project has retired. I've decided to take it upon myself to rejuvenate the project - but I could do with your help. If you are still willing to help mentor (or even give me a hand in bringing this project back!) leave a message on my talk page
RDN1F TALK 16:32, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Help Project newsletter : Issue 6[edit]

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Issue VI - April 2013

Open Help Conference

The Open Help Conference will be taking place June 15-19 in Cincinnati Ohio, USA. The conference includes two days of presentations and open discussions, followed by team "sprints" - collaborative efforts to write and improve documentation.

It has been suggested to send a team from Wikipedia/Wikimedia: to share our own knowledge about help, learn from others in the open source community working on similar problems, and to carry out a sprint to improve some aspect of Wikipedia's help.

There may be support available for volunteers to attend from the Participation Support program (and your editor is certainly hoping to be there!) Please join the discussion in Meta's IdeaLab if you're interested, and/or have suggestions about what we could work on.

Other news

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Suggestions for future issues are welcome at Wikipedia:Help Project/Newsletter.

the wub "?!" 16:22, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Draft:Lindsay Lou & the Flatbellys[edit]

There wasn't a consensus that it's ready for mainspace now (I don't know where two albums on Earthwork Music count per WP:BAND but it could pass GNG anyways) so I moved it to draftspace. If you want to work on it or think it's ready, go ahead and move it again. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:13, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Community desysoping RfC[edit]

Hi. You are invited to comment at RfC for BARC - a community desysoping process. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


I saw your recent replies on Talk:Persian people. That user is an old troll with nationalistic propaganda. Did you review article/discussion revisions? He spams on talk pages since 2013–2014. Anti-Afghan and anti-Tajik comments, sometimes very racist comments, nonsense nationalistic POV and etc. He just focused to remove non-Iranian Persians and other Persian-speaking groups (Afghans and Tajiks) from that article. Some of his accounts are indef-blocked, others are open/active. He's not here to contribute. Please don't feed the trolls and see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iranmehr27. Regards. --Zyma (talk) 08:09, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Like a Virgin (song)[edit]

I recently started a move request. --George Ho (talk) 08:47, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Required notice; I quoted one or more of your diffs[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding incivility and related user behaviors. The thread is Threats, aspersion-casting, etc. by Doc9871.The discussion is about the topic Wikipedia:DIVA. Thank you.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  12:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

That side issue at the DIVA RM[edit]

Re: If split, should the two essays be merged? No, because they are different messages for different audiences. Also, I think your position would be that the old essay should be archived and its old shortcuts discouraged from being further used. This is fully consistent with the apparent consensus against "DIVA" oversimplistically interpreted as a consensus to rename. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Why are you prognosticating, Nostradamus? :-) You're just making stuff up now and trying to put it in my mouth. I would in fact argue for a merge (or at least !vote for one), since the rewrite you mischaracterize as just "Advice for DIVAs" also includes an entire section of advice to ignore (or otherwise to not enable) such antics, while all of the major points of the original essay are retained (minus some minor and counterproductive "divas actually win" messaging that was added, mostly by Doc, and objected to on the talk page by others). This makes the older version redundant to the newer one (or some refinement of it), both as to purpose and scope.

I'm not sure what you mean by "archived"; moribund Wikipedia-namespace pages are deleted or more often marked them with {{Historical}}. If the essays were both kept indefnitely, there's already a twice-found consensus to not continue using the "divas"/"DIVA" wording, regardless. No one has to be manually "discouraged" from using them if they don't appear in the page the "advertised" shortcut. Most editors now refer to WP:DENY not to WP:FEED or WP:TROLL since that page underwent a similar shift; it's a natural adjustment over time (likewise, we refer to WP:AT or WP:TITLE mostly, not WP:NC these days).

Finally, I explicitly stated at what's presently WT:DIVA that I'd endeavored to rewrite the essay as an advice piece on behaviors to avoid while retaining the don't-enable points, as there was much discussion throughout the RM about a need to shift in this direction. Since there was no hidden mystery to unveil, I'm not sure what your point was in restating that's what the redraft accomplished (it's even already been said several times in that MR discussion, too.) There is no "gotcha!" to be had there.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  20:18, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Procrastinating? I don't think anything should be done before the Move Review gets closed (in 1 to 4 weeks).
I continue to lean to thinking the page should be split. Largely to preserve the meaning of historic allegedly offensive shortcuts.
Gotcha? I had no gotcha thoughts. I may have overstated something relating to edit warring, maybe better put as provoking someone else into edit warring, but apart from maybe that I never thought you did anything "wrong". --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:37, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

George III's Golden Jubilee[edit]

Thank you for providing the interesting link. Most thoughtful. Valetude (talk) 16:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Disruptive editor Utcursch[edit]

It is to mention here that Move review Rasgulla and the following edit attempts are different issues.

As per suggestions of JamesBWatson 12:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC) and Human3015 04:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC) on my Talk page talk I have made following revision attempts with the 1st edit summary "Redefined - Rasgulla, Rosogolla, Indian diaspora Bangladesh" follows:

→ "Rasgulla" & "Mauritius" → Snthakur 1st revision → "Rasgulla(hi)[7] or, Rosogolla(bn)[8][9]" & "Bangladesh"

utcursch undid above, and edits Rasagola → "Rasgulla, also known as Rosogolla (in Bengali) or Rasagola (in Odiya)" & "Bangladesh" (it was acceptable to me)

utcursch again undid above, and removes Bangladesh → "Rasgulla in Hindi, known as Rosogolla in Bengali or Rasagola in Odiya" & "South Asian"

utcursch again removes Rosogolla, Rasagola including Bangladesh, creates a section "Name'→ The dessert is known as Rosogolla or Roshogolla in Bengali and Rasagola in Odiya .....

However, (utcursch's act of removing Rosogolla (in Bengali) or Rasagola (in Odiya)" & "Bangladesh" is an arbitrary act and not with consensus either with Snthakur and Human3015 and JamesBWatson

Therefore there was an obvious concern with disruptive editor utcursch for the above content issue.

Please suggest so as to what shall I do now?

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 10:55, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

  • This editor has posted several copies of this message to several talk pages. I have replied on his/her own talk page. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:11, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Horse latitudes coordinates[edit]

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Thank You[edit]

I just wanted to thank you for seeing things similarly to how I do on that issue and being the only voice of support for my stance. I took the piece of shit replacement essay off my watchlist. It really sucks and is pretty useless as far as essays go. I kind of knew and feared from the beginning it would go this way over the "gendered" term with the handwringing over the lack of female editors here. I'm sure they'll be joining in droves now that we've eliminated the term "diva" from WP. Yay. It's a slippery slope, and soon essays like WP:Activist will be targeted because of "labeling". Ironic that the champion of this new ridiculous cause is one of the most uncivil long-term editors I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with here. I don't really give a crap what happens at AN/I anymore. This character is baying for my blood and it sickens me. This whole experience has been very disheartening. Anyhoo, thanks again for lending your support, and Cheers :) Doc talk 23:37, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Shingi Munyeza[edit]

I restored, and blanked User:Shingi Munyeza. By the way I didn't delete it because of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Shingi Munyeza but because there was a speedy delete tag on it. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 02:09, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

MOS:IDENTITY is being revisited: How should Wikipedia refer to transgender individuals before and after their transition?[edit]

You are being contacted because you contributed to a recent discussion of MOS:IDENTITY that closed with the recommendation that Wikipedia's policy on transgender individuals be revisited.

Two threads have been opened at the Village Pump:Policy. The first addresses how the Manual of Style should instruct editors to refer to transgender people in articles about themselves (which name, which pronoun, etc.). The second addresses how to instruct editors to refer to transgender people when they are mentioned in passing in other articles. Your participation is welcome. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:30, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Re Foreign Affairs[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Mike Cline (talk) 18:05, 12 October 2015 (UTC)