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Easter Rising[edit]

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Constituent Country[edit]

Your persistent removal of the Northern Ireland flag icon from this article is verging on disruption. Please desist. The Clyde Valley (talk) 23:32, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Northern Ireland does not have a flag - look at multiple discussions on wikipedia ----Snowded TALK 05:14, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Northern Ireland may not have its own regional flag, but it does have a flag: that of its sovereign state. Mabuska (talk) 10:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
It does;t have a regional or a national flag. Scotland, Wales and England have national flags that are distinct. ----Snowded TALK 06:09, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
You obviously missed my point. As Northern Ireland does not have a legally standing flag of its own it's de facto flag is that of the state, in otherwords the Union Flag. Is the UK not a nation as well, hence national flag? Arguing against that is like arguing that the Moon is made of cheese. Mabuska (talk) 09:09, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
I understood your point but I disagree with you. You also know perfectly well that for some that flag is "The Butcher's Apron" and they fly the Irish Tricolour. The Red Hand of Ulster is not a national or regional flag. In the context of pages on Northern Ireland, per multiple previous discussions NI does not have a flag ----Snowded TALK 09:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Actually the Ulster Banner is for many people of Northern Ireland the flag of the country regardless of its legal position, so yes it does have a national/regional flag, which is still used by thousands in Northern Ireland and by various NI sports teams. Then again what made the English/Scottish/Welsh flags have any legal standing over the years even prior to devolution? The UK has only one official flag, the rest as far as I am concerned have no real legal basis. Mabuska (talk) 10:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey I agree its a mess, with different communities using different flags hence the current wikipedia position. The Scottish and English flags have historical precedence and the Welsh Flag was established without controversy well before devolution. Symbols in the Six Counties/Northern Ireland all have meaning. ----Snowded TALK 10:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
All flags have meanings ;-) On another topic, I see you have become well acquainted with a certain editor. Join the long line of editors who seem at odds with them. Mabuska (talk) 11:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Yep and yes and I may contact you shortly as I think a topic ban may be the only way forward ----Snowded TALK 11:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Only a select list that I have gathered at present but all give examples of Gob Lofa's issues in the Troubles arena:

  • Removal of sourced content citing it as "speculation" [1]. Removes it again just over just outside 1RR, this time claiming it is not in one of the sources despite the fact there are two sources. [2]
  • Insertion of personal opinion/original research: "loyalist paramilitary politcial demands" [3]. Restores it despite being reverted on it [4]. Case as to why their edit is contentious made at Talk:Billy_Hutchinson#Non-paramilitary_loyalists to which their argument is simply personal opinion.
  • More personal opinion/original research changing murdered to assassinated even though source doesn't state either [5]
  • Sourceless Weasel wording [6]
  • Altering content and context of sourced statement (easier just to show my partial revert) [7]
  • Changes sourced first sentence of article to push own opinion despite it not backing him up [8]. Altered by me here: [9]
  • Insertion of weasel worded information not exactly backed up by source [10]. Amended here by me: [11]
  • Personal opinion and OR [12]. What exactly is better shown in my partial revert [13]
  • The Billy Fox article where Gob Lofa has been slow edit warring since Septmeber 2013 to insert his OR "Ulster Protestant" ethnicity despite always being reverted and not one editor agreeing with him on the talk page, even providing sources that don't back him up. One source doesn't even mention Billy Fox and the other one which does, does not explicitly state "Ulster Protestant" meaning Gob is juxtaposing (which he admits) for synthesis (which he denies).
  • Sourceless changing of context based on personal opinion/research [14], which resulted in this talk page discussion and a flurry of reverts between Gob and two other editors that lasted for a few months despite the opposition on the talk page.

I will have some other examples later today or tomorrow hopefully whenI get time. Mabuska (talk) 13:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks I am on a walking holiday this week so while I will be checking in during the evenings 20+ miles a day will not leave me much time for editing. Will pick up at weekend----Snowded TALK 20:27, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Without having dug any further back yet through my own history to find controversial Gob edits, they are still—despite knowing they are under the spotlight—making POV edits that aren't backed up by the source they add, in otherwords OR or synthesis. This time [15]. They report speculation as fact and use POV laden term in the process that is also not backed up by source. Mabuska (talk) 23:12, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Agreed - I will draft over weekend. On walking holiday round South Wales Coast at the moment and averaging 20+ miles a day so little time. Next two days will not have macbook as carrying overnight stuff so weekend first opportunity ----Snowded TALK 05:19, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Sounds nice, enjoy! Mabuska (talk) 11:29, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────It would seem Gob Lofa is shying away from Troubles related articles since the raising of the ANI and ArbCom requests. Whilst I have found some edits over the past few days, some of which needed amending/partially reverted rather than outright rerverted, they seem to be concentrating on other topics to maybe take away the heat. Mabuska (talk) 22:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Yep, then s/he will be back! ----Snowded TALK 07:54, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Looks like they are really going for the breach of the tit-for-tat principle of the Troubles restrictions in regards to my edits, also add to that this: [16] and [17], seems like a case of 1RR breach even if a partial revert. Mabuska (talk) 00:18, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 August 2015[edit]

The Signpost: 19 August 2015[edit]

The Signpost: 26 August 2015[edit]

Notification[edit]

Just to notify you that I make mention of you at an AN/I I have raised at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Gob_Lofa. Mabuska (talk) 13:07, 30 August 2015 (UTC)