User talk:Solenopsisinvicta

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June 2013[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm Yintan. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Hydrophiinae, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.  Yinta 21:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

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  • The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Hydrophiinae was changed by Solenopsisinvicta (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.870906 on 2013-06-10T21:54:58+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 21:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Hydrophiinae[edit]

If you don't agree with the spelling, start a discussion on the talk page. What you cannot do is copy the article to the title you want and redirect the other. Drmies (talk) 21:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Don't agree with the spelling? lol. Can you not just add attribution or whatever it is you want rather deleting everything. What exactly was wrong with the Elapinae page (in terms of actual content)?

  • You can LOL all you want, but you copied the content of Hydrophiinae without any kind of explanation to Hydrophiini. That looks like you're doing nothing but (incorrectly) changing the spelling of the article title. As for Elapinae, it was a redirect and you filled it up with text copied from Elapidae. First of all, I don't know that the text you added to Elapinae is valid for the term in the first place. Second, you did it again without explanation and without giving the proper attribution. No, I cannot go and manually restore a couple of hundred edits from Hydrophiinae to your Hydrophiini, when I don't even know if you're correct about that name change or not. It's a Good Article, which leads me to believe that it's probable that some thought went into the name of that article. Again, take it up on the article talk page please. I have already spent a significant amount of time checking and undoing your changes which you made without edit summary, without explanation, and without consensus. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 23:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes I want to change the spelling of the article title. It is otherwise an excellent article (apart from that it includes Laticauda, which is not a sea snake). The reasons were then added to the taxonomy section (I guess I should have made an edit summary instead - sorry). The name change complies with recent literature. For example:
  • http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2008.01525.x/abstract
  • http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1055790312003788
  • I am not too bothered if you leave that one for now, but please do not just delete the whole elapinae page. Most of it was not copied from elapidae. I wrote the introduction, characteristics and relationships. I did then copy the table of genera for elapidae, and removed the ones that did not belong in this subfamily. I don't see why this was bad. Either way, can you at least tell me why exactly anything that I wrote was not correct, as the references were there to check. It seems perverse to me to delete the entire page because it wasn't editing completely correctly. Thanks
    • Well, even if only a bit is copied (in this case, copied from Wikipedia without proper attribution--there was a table that came from the other page, if I remember correctly) then that section, and the article history containing that section, really should go. Seriously, I'm not a scientist of snakes so I can't comment on the naming issue. Take it up on the article talk page, where you can propose a move and lay out your arguments. If there is no response, you can go to the talk page of the relevant project, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles. And/or you could drop a note on the talk page of active (content) editors either for the article or for the project. It is entirely possible that you have an excellent argument, but it's to be made on one of those talk pages. Who brought the article up to GA status? Well, {{User|Jwinius}], but there's not active anymore (lazy Dutchperson). There's some discussion on Talk:Hydrophiinae about a merger with Elapidae--what about it? Again, I don't know snakes, and I don't know anyone who does, but I do know that many snakes eat rats, and Wikipedia's expert on rats is Ucucha (talk · contribs), a Dutch student at Harvard and an administrator to boot. You could drop him a line; he'll understand your sciency stuff better than me. But really, I'd start with a note on the article talk page, and on the project talk page. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 23:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit war on Hydrophiinae [edit]

Hello. You appear to be involved in an edit war on Hydrophiinae .

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Continued edit warring on Hydrophiinae or any other article may cause you to be blocked without further notice. Toddst1 (talk) 21:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)