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10 Jul 2004 - 3 Nov 2004
3 Nov 2004 - 25 Nov 2004

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Important WikiProject Automobiles Discussion[edit]

Hello! As a Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles member, I just thought you might want to input your opinions on an important discussion we're currently having about whether articles regarding similar vehicles should be merged into one or split by brand. If you would like to comment or read further, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles#Articles of Similar Vehicles. Thank you in advance for your thoughts and feedback. Airline 23:52, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Your Opinion Please![edit]

Hi Solitude, I have another series of FP I would be grateful if you could have a look and tell me what you think. If you don't want to be part of my little sub FPC voting, could you please tell me? Thanks --Fir0002 01:14, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)


  • And again. Thanks! --Fir0002 07:55, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Your Opinion Please![edit]

Hi, Solitude

For quite some time I have been uploading multiple images of the same subject as a Featured Picture Candidate, and, unknown (until recently) to me, this was causing considerable problems in the promoting/not promoting stage of the Featured Picture Candidates.

Recently Solipsist informed me of the problem and came up with the suggestion of holding my own semi Featured Picture Candidates page.

I would like you and several others (User:Sj, User:Boffy B, User:Solipsist, User:Chris 73) to be the people who vote in this.

I would greatly appreciate your opinions on the photos.

The link to the page is User:Fir0002/FPCandidates

Thanks --Fir0002 08:12, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks/notification template[edit]

Thanks for the updating of DYK. Was a bit short on time myself. Please note that I've made a template to aid in the notification that pages have been used on DYK to the user (see Template:UpdatedDYK). [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 13:18, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png

I hereby award you with a barnstar for being exceptionally friendly and helpful. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 10:08, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Image[edit]

Question by User:Belizian moved from main user page:How big do you want it Image:Belize30.jpg I have in a very large size but it's way outside the standard. -- [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 19:15, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Image:Snooker table.jpg[edit]

I edited your Image:Snooker table.jpg for brightness - does it look OK? Maybe it's just my monitor, but it seemed a bit dark... Evercat 20:26, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Rachelle Waterman as FAC?[edit]

The Wikipedia logo with the Santa hat on top is cute. Next Halloween, someone should add a scary looking face on it, kinda of like the tradition of putting pumpkins with faces outside your home on that holiday. Maybe for the New Year someone will put a party hat with some party streamers flowing down the side?

Anyways, please see the Featured Article Candidate nomination for the Rachelle Waterman article.

  1. If you approve of this article, write "Support" followed by your reasons.
  2. If you oppose this nomination, write "Object" followed by the reason for your objection.

Thank you for your contribution!

Cheers,

--DV 13:44, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

He's checking his list...[edit]

Santa knows what you are thinking.

OK, I gave in to your holiday spirit and added your WikiSanta to my user page.

I feel better already.

--DV 14:02, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Vulva pic in Clitoris article[edit]

Greetings. I am sadened that your contribution to this discussion was to try to stick a troll label on me. What I am attempting to achieve is to challenge the misinterpretation of the vote that was held on the Clitoris talk page. The question asked for the vote was:

QUESTION: Who would vote for replacing the second image on this page with this link? [http://www.vh.org/adult/provider/anatomy/atlasofanatomy/plate36/07femorgans.html anatomical drawing

The vote therefore clearly was either or issue. This one or that one. This is now being (deliberately) misinterpreted as the picture must stay at all costs. What is truly bizarre is that the picture does not even display the subject of the article itself. Sadly your contribution has not been helpful. - Robert the Bruce 03:02, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

User is referring to this discussion, response here. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 09:11, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Video Poker[edit]

Video Poker machine payout tables only represent a theoretical payout percentage. The vast majority of gamers cannot achieve that payout percentage because they do not play correctly.

It is essential to draw correctly depending on the content of each dealt hand, and there are strategy tables devised by computer which determine how to do so, depending on the payout table. (Hence you need different strategy tables for different payout tables!)

My ambition is to add such strategy tables to the Video Poker article, but I can't just copy-and-paste such strategies from an existing book due to copyright. To get around that problem, I have an off-the-shelf analytical program that allows the creation of strategy tables based on a weighting of difficulty vs. accuracy. These tables are slightly different than the published ones, but still accomplish the desired positive payoff.

If you're interested in getting a good feel for this, there is a training program called "WinPoker" available from Zamzow Software, (in the U.S.), that allows you to practice, as well as automatically run through a great number of hands using a given payout table and strategy.

Cheers,

--DV 03:41, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Re: Featured article removal candidates[edit]

Hey, thanks for reminding me of that. I'm a bit too busy/lazy lately, but I'll try and keep up with removing older nominations there now. :-) --Conti| 13:52, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

1973 energy crisis[edit]

The image at the top of the 1973 energy crisis article adds a lot to the lead-in sections. Nice work. 172 19:59, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Recent additions[edit]

I've just done some archiving of Did you know facts at Wikipedia:Recent additions and saw that even though you added some facts, you forgot scores of others. Would you please use the list at Template talk:Did you know the next time, so we're sure no fact is lost in the archiving process? Thanks! :-) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:00, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Hmm I'm pretty sure I always archive DYK facts to the recent additions section, can you point me where that went wrong, it must have been a glitch, as I'm very aware of the procedure. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 21:05, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
No clue what happened, but check my edit against yours in the history and you can see what I mean. I guess it's just something to look out for. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:15, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
I've dug up the link here. How come there's just 4 or 5 facts since Opinel knife was featured? That was 1 or 2 weeks ago. If you compare that to my subsequent edit, you can see something is missing. Maybe someone else edited in the mean time? Ah, never mind, I don't blame you, it can be fixed anyway. I'm just curious how it happened. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:23, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
Just as I expected. Didn't expect it to be your fault. Sleep tight, and don't worry about it. :-) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:37, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

White Rose[edit]

I was simply adding the message to each article that was already listed as an FA - there was no editorial decision on my part. Many of those listed items at that time did not go through any process other than somebody adding them and nobody removing them. -- mav 07:54, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Calendar templates[edit]

This uses it:

{{AprilCalendar|year=2004|1=Wikipedia:Today's featured article/|2=Today's featured articles for |3= 2004|4=, 2004|5=|float=center|color=#fff3f3|color2=#fff3f3|EndNote=<small>An archive of [[Wikipedia:Featured articles|Wikipedia's featured articles]] that appeared on the [[Main Page]]}}

See template:TFAforApril2004

As well as this:

{{MaySelAnniv}}

See Template:MaySelAnniv

If you want to refer to the current year, all you ever have to do is add {{JuneCalendar}} to get:

{{JuneCalendar}} 

See template:JuneCalendar

If you want to show a particular year and no other, then you will have to pass all the variables: {{JulyCalendar2004|1=|2=|3=|4=|5=|float=right|color=#ccccff|color2=#ccccff|EndNote=<small>[[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] day arrangement</small><br />[[List of historical anniversaries|All days]]}}

to get

{{JulyCalendar2004|1=|2=|3=|4=|5=|float=right|color=#ccccff|color2=#ccccff|EndNote=<small>[[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] day arrangement</small><br />[[List of historical anniversaries|All days]]}}

-- mav 16:57, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Solitude: since your arrival in wikipedia is after the reorganization of the Brilliant Prose section, nowadays the FAC, i understand that you have no clue of how things worked back then. So please, refrain from making comments like misterious additions by mav or Emsworth adding tags, otherwise you are making a fool of yourself. If you want to criticise something, thats ok, but at least know what you are talking about. If you do want to know how things worked, i'll be happy to answer any question because i used, back then, to spend some time in this isseues. Cheers, muriel@pt 13:35, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Response here. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 16:10, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

First, I appreciate the general efforts and yours of improving general quality of the articles. But, the wikipedia was not 400,000 articles all the time and the featured standard evolved. So, please, do not judge peoples decisions then by today's standards, which are the only ones you know. I found your suggestion of Maverick doing mysterious tag additions very close of a personal attack, but i did assume good faith and that is why i wrote the message above. Have fun with Farc, with wikilove, muriel@pt 09:21, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project[edit]

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Thumb pics & taxoboxes[edit]

Hi Solitude - I've changed your edit at Scots Pine back to standard taxobox style, it was agreed by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life group a while back that thumbed pics don't look good in taxoboxes because of the multiple framing it produces. I've used the full image tag that you'd linked in, though. - MPF 11:38, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Reply here. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 13:31, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

hi[edit]

Just felt like chatting with someone about something (the_strategy_freak)

'"I never knew four tiddleday thingies would display your IP address, and time of post :)"'

Ho ho ho![edit]

Love the christmas wikipedia logo, Have a merry one! --fvw* 05:42, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

your rude remark[edit]

On Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates you said: "Yet again a mediocre article mysteriously promoted by Maveric149." There is nothing "mysterious" about it, and your tone is less than cordial. All I did was put the featured tag on every article that was then a featured article. I DID NOT PROMOTE THOSE ARTICLES! --mav 02:14, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Replied here. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 02:55, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Mysterious POTD template[edit]

Happy Wikibreak!

On a more positive use of the term "mysterious", I am curious to know what the POTD template was supposed to do?

I've added it to my user page with the hopes that it will spring to life with something interesting.

So far, it only seems to sit there, with the date showing up. I was kind of hoping it did something more than that.

If you come back before the New Year with a "Happy New Year Wikipedia" logo, I will be sure to place it on my user page!

Cheers,

DV 08:34, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

WP:PUI old business[edit]

Hi. I'm just checking if you ever heard back from Peter Welleman about the images listed on WP:PUI for 7 December, please note so, thanks. -- Infrogmation 06:18, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Return of the Untagged Image project[edit]

You were kind enough to contribute to the Wikipedia:Untagged images project; I beg to draw your attention to part 2 of the project - there are about 12,000 more images in need of tagging. Any assistance you could provide would be most welcome. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk)

Common sense in tagging[edit]

Do you just auto-tag images which don't have copyright information? If this is a human process, please tag images which are clearly public domain with Template:PD-art. I just did so for a few Pompeii images. I would really hate if some obviously PD image got deleted because it was tagged as "unverified".--Eloquence* 05:06, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Blackberries fir0002 semi FPC[edit]

Hope you can come vote on this selection: [User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Blackberries] Thanks--Fir0002 06:18, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Voting fir0002 grape photos[edit]

Hi Solitutde, Hope you can cast an eye over my latest gaggle of photos! Thanks --Fir0002 01:18, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Wikijunior name vote[edit]

m:Wikijunior project name Voting will end June 6, 2005 at 11:30 am EST. -- user:Zanimum

Warming Up Image[edit]

Warming up.jpg

Hey,

Minor question of interest. Who is the team in your 'Warming Up' photo? I thought it was Man City - but couldn't be sure.

Cheers - A.K.A.47 21:58, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I Need your help on 'Move Tsushima Islands' Issue[edit]

Hi! You appear to be an QUALIFIED interested disinterested bystander... Tho' taking a wikibreak, I've seen you around Vfd, iirc. I'm just making the rounds to everyone that has made their mark on Tsushima Islands which lead me to Fg2, (thence to then YOU! Congrats! Booby Prize, but I badly need some responsible People to help me mediate therein that are familiar with things Japanese... errr English! Sorry, but I infer that's still YOU!) in the last month trying to mediate this flaming revert war — I can use your help — Bring lots O water! (Better yet Beer) Frank

This is the message I've been dropping on anyone on the Talk or Article pages since 13 May, I'd appreciate it if you can familarize yourself on the small article and stand-by to jump in on Tuesday with some cogent watersprays from a logical firehose! Thanks for the trouble -- the issue is trivial, (Is proper name plural or singular, Forsooth!) save there seem to be at least two teens in a war going well over three hundred edits in this one month sampling interval, over 70 edits in the past three days.
  • I would appreciate a rational explaination (after you read my Comments in the subject dispute Talk:Tsushima Islands), of the arguement or arguments you consider vital and germane to the discusion and vote. Frankly, MOST all of you are being silly over nothing of particular importance, since both names can be redirected into the one used. I have left a comment concerning my contribution to the article, which contribution — seems to have triggered the current edit and revision wars. For that I apologize, but see the Comments on the vote. I am also taking the liberty of putting the vote section AFTER the Comments about same.
  • Still, I have just spent over four hours of valuable spare time, and would welcome your thoughts after you read and understand the distinction I put forth between a governments termonology as a governing body and a geographical reference like an archepelego, which it certainly is.
  • More to the point, I'd like to see your defense regarding your favorite POV of what I had to say viz a viz the mergest attitude of the senior editors and administrators that frequent the Wikipedia:VfD discussions. To my recollection, I don't recollect any of you hotheads in this dispute ever spending anytime thereon, possibly excepting Mel Etitis, but rarely even then.
  • In any event, I'm neutral here, and have asked that the article be kept EDIT FREE for the next three days by placing The Inuse template into it — I'd copyedited over two and half hours before I suspended that effort the other night because this shameful fued was going on — proper English grammer does depend, unfortunately, on whether one uses the plural or the singular. I saved that on my hard drive, but I don't need to wade through yet another 70 edits to finish the job. As it is, this matter will probably double the time it takes for such a simple job.
  • If you are local to Japan, some history of the canals or Sea-channel is certainly germane to the ongoing discussion, moreover, any cogent arguement you condsider being particularly telling needs to be clearly repeated in the current on going comments if you want them counted on in the vote.
  • I will make sure this message goes to each contributor to the article the past month, so you are not being singled out. Now is the time to take a deep breath, for rational concise summaries, not all the arguing that is so wearisome in 66 printed pages - half a novelette, I'd guess! It's certainly a lot to ask your fellow editors to wade through on a minor issue.
  • I will also personally be making sure that at least a dozen other Administrators I'm acquainted with take a look at the debate after the time below. I will in fact ask for twenty commitments, so be clear and respectful of our time!!!
  • Thankyou for your time, attention, and good professional behaviour. I'll check the Talk state again no sooner than Monday around Noon (UTC), And ask the uninvolved others to do the same. PLEASE BE CONCISE. [[User:Fabartus| FrankB || TalktoMe]] 03:22, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[[User:Fabartus| FrankB || TalktoMe]] 03:22, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well that's my heads up, and appeal -- Hope you can help. I really don't have a dog in this fight! If you can alert a few others qualified on matters Japanese, by all means, please do so!


Voting at Fir0002 FPC's[edit]

Hi Solitude, Hope you can spare the time to vote again at Pincushion Hakea Thanks, --Fir0002 11:17, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Kiki designs[edit]

Hope you'll visit Wikijunior project Nikki/Kiki character designs to discuss who's design is best. I've found a dozen talented people to create designs. -- user:zanimum

Pic of the day[edit]

Hi Solitude,

I'm not sure if you are still around, but it looks like you might still drop by from time to time. The picture Image:Mahameru-volcano.jpeg that you uploaded is making a reappearance as Pic of the Day tomorrow. I've used the same caption as last time, but any corrections can be made at Wikipedia:Picture of the day/August 10, 2005. In particular, I noticed that the source informaton on the picture isn't particularly clear. We have it credited to Jan-Pieter Nap — if that is yourself, I would normally include a link to your user page, if it isn't the image description page could use a link to its source. -- Solipsist 07:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Voting on jonquil flowers[edit]

Hi Solitude!

Please vote on my latest indecisions! Hope you like them --Fir0002 10:22, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Wikijunior Solar System Needs You[edit]

Danny Wool has challenged us to get Wikijunior Solar System out to hurricane evacuees by October 32005. This is going to be tough!

You expressed interest in WikiJunior. Would you be willing now to join the push to get Wikijunior Solar System completed?

--SV Resolution(Talk) 16:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Feedback[edit]

Hi Solitude, You commented to my IP address so: "Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism." Could you elaborate what on earth you're talking about so I can work out if you're directing those non-too-friendly words at myself or just someone else at this IP? And yes, I should register as a user, I'll do that asap.

Freemasonry featured tag[edit]

Back on November 16, 2004, you removed the featured tag from Freemasonry with a "to talk" note, but I don't see on the talk page archive that there was any discussion there. Do you remember what the rationale was? Thanks.--SarekOfVulcan 17:43, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, you did the same to me too (sorry. I don't know how to leave a separare comment...)

Vote on Fir0002 FPC page[edit]

Hi Solitude!
Hope you can cast your vote on this batch of photos! Thanks --Fir0002 10:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Tookie.jpg[edit]

Don't revert copyvio headers without discussion on the Copyright problems page. Zoe (216.234.130.130 18:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC))

Replied on your "talk" page. -- Solitude\talk 18:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Reverting anons without verifying their edits is not appropriate. 216.234.130.130 18:49, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Kata.jpg[edit]

The image tag says that it is in the public domain, with some disclaimers. Does that mean I can use it in a userbox? Thanks... СПУТНИКССС Р 22:54, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

What's the Point?[edit]

What's the point in leaving people meaningless notes? The article on natural burial has a note attached that states it is not written in the formal tone expected of an Encyclopedia entry. I modified it and made the tone less personal in how it was phrased. I didn't change the substance of the article other than making it less personal and correcting a minor error.

The article was reverted, and I was left a note that stated "Your experiment worked". I attempted to contribute, and my attempt was nullified. My experiment didn't work, or your note to me was not meaningful.

Did it make you feel good to trash someones attempt at a contribution? I hope so.

Unless you have a reasonable explanation, that was my last attempt at a contribution.

Alethias

Unspecified source for Image:Theo van Gogh.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Theo van Gogh.jpg. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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Image:Rolling-thunder-cloud.jpg[edit]

Hi, I was trying to find the source of this photo. Are you John Kerstholt or do you know him personally? I can't seem to find this anywhere online. I trust you enough as an editor that I won't mark this as having no source, but when you get back to Wikipedia, I'd appreciate it if you could add some more details so that someone else can verify the licensing. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 19:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Automobiles Notification[edit]

Hi Solitude, you were on the list of members at WikiProject Automobiles and we are introducing a new way of listing members, as the old list was becoming too long. Our new method involves having all of our members in a category.

To add yourself to the category just add the userbox to your user page by putting {{Wiki Auto Project}} where you want the userbox. Alternatively if you don't like the userbox you can add [[Category:WikiProject Automobiles members|Solitude]] to your userpage.

If you no longer wish to be a member of the project, simply don't add the userbox or category, there's no pressure. Thanks for your time, James086Talk | Contribs 04:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

I've integrated you beautiful photography on www.edumedia-share.com (type "cloud" as keyword to find it). It's a free collaborative website for teachers. Tell me if you don't want me to do so ... Bye solfamily@gmail.com

Wikipedia:Translation[edit]

WP-TranslationProject TwoFlags.svg

Hello! A while ago you signed up to help translate articles from other Wikipedias at Wikipedia:Translators available.

This page has since become obsolete and has been replaced by two userbox templates.

If you are still interested in translating, you may sign up again by using one of the following userboxes on your userpage (while changing, of course, the codes according to the languages you speak):

   {{Translator|es|Spanish}} 
   {{Proofreader|fr|French}} 

We hope to see you soon on Wikipedia:Translation!

Image:Energy crisis - oild sold out.jpg[edit]

Hi. There's been a question about the source of Image:Energy crisis - oild sold out.jpg. Do you remember where it came from or any other info? Thanks. -- Infrogmation 13:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image:Satellite-navigation.jpg[edit]

What's the software being used on that laptop? -- Denelson83 18:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Jill Ker Conway.jpg[edit]

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:L Ron Hubbard.jpg[edit]

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Image:L Ron Hubbard.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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image of Theo van Gogh[edit]

Hi Solitude,
if you are in need of a free image of Theo van Gogh for your subpage, there is one on Commons: image:TheoVanGogh.jpg --Túrelio (talk) 12:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

F1 car FP[edit]

Hi there
I've nominated here for delisting the FP of a F1 car that you originally nominated. Perhaps you'd like to participate in the discussion?
Cheers, Pstuart84 Talk 21:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

New version of photograph[edit]

Hello Solitude,

Long ago, in this edit to my Talk page, you asked me to upload a higher-resolution version of Image:Tazawako.jpg, and I promised to do so ... some day. Today I uploaded a new scan at higher resolution, and with much higher JPEG quality. It's available on Commons as Image:Tazawako.jpg. The names are the same. I've requested deletion of the old, low-quality Wikipedia image; as soon as it happens the new file will automatically take its place. Sorry it took so many years to upload this!

Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 08:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

NowCommons: Image:Sea gulls Solitude 1.jpg[edit]

Image:Sea gulls Solitude 1.jpg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:Image:Laughing Gulls on sand.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case: [[Image:Laughing Gulls on sand.jpg]]. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 07:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Rolling Thunder Cloud[edit]

Rolling-thunder-cloud.jpg

I have just nominated this picture ford delisting in WP:FP because of it's low resolution, it'll be really apreciatted if you could provide a larger one, it's a great photograph. Cheers! --MakE shout! 21:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/Rolling-thunder-cloud.jpg --MakE shout! 21:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Image tagging for File:KingCourthouse.jpg[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:L Ron Hubbard.jpg[edit]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject TRANSWIKI[edit]

You are invited to join WikiProject TRANSWIKI and join the sub language project of your choice. The aim is to draw up a full directory of missing articles from other wikipedias by language and build a team of translators to work at bridging the gaps in knowledge between other wikipedias. Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Rolling thunder cloud[edit]

I have nominated your image to be removed from our current selection of featured pictures. In my opinion the featured images require a much higher quality these days than this image. Perhaps it should be listed as an image with high Encyclopedic Value now instead? —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Innocent-Hooliganism.jpg[edit]

...is related to an image you once uploaded and which is likely not your own work as you claimed it with your upload. --Martin H. (talk) 16:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

File:Small_canal_-_Venice.jpg[edit]

Hello Solitude, I shall really appreciated your indulgence if you could provide a larger one, it's a great photograph. I would like to use it for oil painting (realism). Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Small_canal_-_Venice.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgallerynet (talkcontribs) 01:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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Research survey invitation[edit]

Greetings Solitude-

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Nomination to delist File:Mahameru-volcano.jpeg[edit]

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Nomination of Nitpicking (pastime) for deletion[edit]

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File permission problem with File:Closing of the Veerse Gatdam.jpg[edit]

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