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User talk:SpacemanSpiff

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Aryan warrior[edit]

Hi Spaceman, do you think this user has had enough WP:ROPE? - Kautilya3 (talk) 20:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Not familiar with that at all. —SpacemanSpiff 01:50, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Maunus was around to control him (as an involved editor), but he was going in an endless cycle of very long posts pushing a particular POV. He has quietened down a bit now, but he may come back later. - Kautilya3 (talk) 19:51, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I did see Maunus' note and nothing after when I looked then. The editor comes by once in two years (at least that's what I saw from the contribs), the problem may be pushed out to 2017 now. —SpacemanSpiff 04:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
No such luck. See Draft:Aryan_Religion. - Kautilya3 (talk) 13:32, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Indian Administrators[edit]

Don't you think, that we need more Indian administrators. Someone who keeps tab on India related articles. Do you know anybody who is active in Indian articles and can be a good administrator? RedPenOfDoom is active on Indian entertainment articles. --Galaxy Kid (talk) 16:08, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to assume that you mean admins who are interested in adminning India topics and aren't really looking to racially profile administrators. There are many, but the problem with film and TV articles is that there's a disproportionate amount of deranged fanboy and paid editing going on and it's an area that's difficult to manage because of the sheer amount of PR masquerading as news that end up being used as sources. You can try working with Dharmadhyaksha who has taken it upon himself to clean up this area. I think TheRedPenOfDoom‎ just spends their leisure time here (to good effect) as their primary editing interests lie elsewhere, but they are a good act to follow. —SpacemanSpiff 16:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't know how much specific admining needs to be done in the area. I suppose that admins very familiar with the India/Pakistan issues and Caste issues and more active during particular times of editing might be able to more quickly identify such issues and be able to get blocks and page protects faster to limit disruption.
On the other hand, i definitely see a benefit of more editors in the subject area getting aware of BLP issues and sourcing and tone requirements and able to spread that information as a great help in maintaining quality. And at some point too, one might hope that with fewer bad articles that people would be using as examples a tipping point would be reached with less resources going to emergency fixes of crisis issues more towards building quality. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:47, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
THat's a good observation on policy-educated editors being needed, TheRedPenOfDoom; it might be better if WMF India goes out with "how to edit and the policies to follow" outreach instead of a "come and edit" focus. —SpacemanSpiff 04:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Hires.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For tireless work on women's cricket Jaywardhan009 (talk) 13:49, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Jaywardhan009. —SpacemanSpiff 15:46, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Deletion of Srishti Madurai[edit]

Dear Volunteer of Wiki

On what basis you deleted the page of Srishti Madurai on Wiki ?

Your deletion is against freedom of speech and expression, the page was created with all needed references and you must explain on what basis you deleted it ?, you just deleted it because its a LGBTQIA group ?, being administrator you are behaving like a dictator, this hurts the SM community, Please retain the Srishti Madurai page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Suggest you read WP:NOFREESPEECHHERE. The article was correctly deleted for copyright violations and for being a thinly disguised advertisement for the organization. --NeilN talk to me 19:10, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

No it doesn't violated any copyrights and the article was well written. I mean free speech not in wiki sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

As NeilN said above, there's no free speech here. Your account talk page has the relevant policy links. If you continue to use Wikipedia as a venue for advertising or copy paste content from elsewhere then you are going to be blocked. —SpacemanSpiff 04:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

If you are not giving a proper explanation to this then we need to move legally because we have not clearly violated any rights and just because you are contributor you cannot behave like a dictator. The way you respond to us shows that how egoistic you are and u hate towards a particular LGBT minority community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:48, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Please see WP:NLT. You've already been blocked for using Wikipedia for social media marketing and copyright violations. That you can not understand the notices left on your talk page isn't the problem of editors here. —SpacemanSpiff 03:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


I recommended zero uploads anywhere. He is a very productive editor and makes lots of articles. I see no copyvio text issues nor any problems with his non-free movie poster uploads in the past. You can guess how I view those who lie and those involved in copyvios, but this fellow is redeeming himself with his productivity. The more work he does (adding posters to articles) the better, in my view. Shall we permit him to resume uploading posters for his creations? Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

IMO, it's too early now Anna. There are some other problems with this in that stuff that is being deleted as spam and accounts blocked is now being created by him. I'm not entirely sure what the deal is, but there's something that needs investigation. I've received at least two different "paid editing" complaints now via email but I really haven't had any time to investigate either. I'm sure both editors who emailed me have this page on their watchlist, so they can comment with specific details if they don't mind. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough, my friend. I totally trust your judgement. Let's keep things as they are for now and see how things turn out. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm troubled by the evidence presented at WP:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mbsibin. Even though checkuser was negative result, it seems that there's something beyond coincidence going on there. Especially when combined with some off-wiki claims of film industry connections. I'd also like to take a "wait and see" approach before any permissions are restored. – Brianhe (talk) 07:54, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Troubling indeed. I never saw that SPI. I agree with your views, Brianhe. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
That's just one of at least three such cases (that I've been alerted to)!!—SpacemanSpiff 02:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


can u add notable or famous personalities??? Like in other communities pages. VikiAT (talk) 07:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Agamudayar mudaliar[edit]

nothing about agamudayar with mudaliar title?? Census is correct?? 1981 or 1891 ??please check???

Please check this page also ( VikiAT (talk) 08:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

These are questions for the article talk page where any interested editors (not me) can comment. —SpacemanSpiff 11:33, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Weeding out resumes as userpages[edit]

@Dharmadhyaksha and Smartse: My edit history shows my recent project of looking for resumes posted here. It's depressingly easy to do. I stopped at this one because it's so ridiculous: User:Graphikamaal. I'm just guessing Mohammed Rafi Academy was not done on a true voluntary basis. Any thoughts on a better way to deal with this? Maybe automation to find resume keywords like "biodata", or phone numbers, in user pages? - Brianhe (talk) 12:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh dear that really was a mess which I have taken care of. Mohammed Rafi Academy looks like it should go to AFD. Afraid I don't have any ideas for how to improve detection beyond searching. What terms are you looking for? There is an edit filter for self-promotion in userspace which could maybe be improved. SmartSE (talk) 13:04, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Right, I took care of a lot of U5s a couple of days back when you tagged them. I think a bot to list all newly created pages by new users or IPs in userspace with 10 digit numbers in format xxxxx-xxxxx or +xx-xxxxx-xxxxx or xxxxxxxxxx maybe helpful. It could also be done by an edit filter I think, but MusikAnimal will probably tell me why I'm wrong or this will consume too much server resources etc. The problem is not just with users in their own pages, take a look at this, an IP kept hijacking a user's page to write a bio. A bot to run through User pages and look for (a) Keywords - biodata, resume, etc etc; (b) Phone numbers - format; (c) Email ids: especially or and so on may be a feasible solution. —SpacemanSpiff 13:12, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
@Smartse: The first pass was just manual review of all userpages starting with "Dr." with particular emphasis on usernames that looked like full human names (i.e. looking at Joe Doaks but skipping Joe1234). Today's is more focused, the keyword is "bio data" but I think as Spiff suggests a search for several types of formatted strings would be fruitful. Another task for a future rainy day is the string "internet marketing" which I took a halfhearted attempt at about a week ago.
Another related problem. Take a look at this too User:Alexander lau and tell me if you think he's SEOing his own name. Unfortunately Wikipedia userpages are indexed by Google, so I think this is a new game people have discovered. Search on "alexander lau seo" and see what I mean. – Brianhe (talk) 13:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Shameless userpage SEO: User:Andersdakin. Another test case for us. - Brianhe (talk) 13:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I've deleted those two. You might want to look at the additions to articles by the former. The one that I looked at was asking to be removed. —SpacemanSpiff 14:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
There's several userspace promo filters, I think. I like this one the most, though that's more geared toward identifying spam bots. We could probably add some phone number hooks into Special:AbuseFilter/354. Pinging primary author NawlinWiki. Just a side note, should that filter be public?
Anyway the filter obviously only flags new creations. For the old ones I guess we could look into a bot. We'd have to download a dump of all the userspace pages, which has got to be enormous. The advantage being the data would locally on the file system so the bot could run very fast and not have to worry about API throttles or slow SQL queries. I'm not sure that I'll have time to work on that any time soon, but I'm sure we could find someone who does MusikAnimal talk 19:28, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I deleted a lot of those Webhost-tagged user pages, Brianhe, and I was wondering how you had found them...lots of the accounts hadn't been active for years so I couldn't figure out how you came across them. Now I know! As for recent user page profiles, I think you could do a search of user pages (not user talk pages) for the string "high school" and come up with a lot of Facebook or LinkedIn-looking pages. I'm not sure why but many people who use their user page as a profile page list where they went to high school and sometimes even elementary school. Liz Read! Talk! 20:05, 22 November 2015 (UTC)



The 1891 Census of India listed as Kshatriya????
VikiAT (talk) 13:36, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

How is citing news souces a violation of copyrights?[edit]

Answer please Happy sage (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Please read WP:C. You are not citing sources, you are copying from them. You have to add content in your own words, it should not be the words of a journalist or author from a newspaper etc. —SpacemanSpiff 15:33, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi,i changed it now.see it plz .. Happy sage (talk) 17:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

It's still a copyvio. You've added a couple of words here and there and changed a source but the content largely follows what was there before. —SpacemanSpiff 17:11, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
But "all" of the content was not copy pasted...will you help me in making that copyright violation free so that i can learn,i mean i am not getting very different words.

Happy sage (talk) 17:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

thanks in advance

Happy sage (talk) 17:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Please see User:SpacemanSpiff/CopyingFAQ, I have listed some examples there. Some of the cite templates aren't current, but that's fixable. —SpacemanSpiff 17:29, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Happy sage, reading WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE will help you understand the issue. --NeilN talk to me 17:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
thanks, i will try to improve :) user:NeilN

Happy sage (talk) 18:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

@Happy sage: Please use your own sandbox going forward and don't add AFC templates unless you're asking for a new article to be reviewed and created. I'll look at this in the next day or so and let you know. —SpacemanSpiff 23:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
well i guess AFC template gets added by default then...i did not add it on purpose.Bdw how do i submit my article for review if it is not by sandbox posting.Is it fyn if i provide link to my sandbox or Edit the article and request your review.

Thanks Happy sage (talk) 01:19, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

If it's just experimenting for an existing article then you shouldn't send it to AFC as it is an understaffed project focused on new articles. In this case you had placed it in my sandbox, not yours, causing the problem of someone deciding to move it. Just place it at User:Happy sage/sandbox and if a review template gets added, just remove it. Cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 02:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Happy sage, from a copyright standpoint your current sandbox is ok. However, please note that what you're adding requires a lot of copyedit and cleanup. e.g. "Britishes", no spaces after punctuation, sentence construction issues -- "But,pressures to start the mining are on rise in Karnataka". cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 15:30, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

More 500/30[edit]

Did you notice ArbCom has done the 500/30 prohibition for Palestine-Israel pages now?[1] Should be helpful there too. (Patting the black labrador retriever.) Bishonen | talk 16:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

I removed that page from my watchlist as it was perpetually hogging the top spot! It's good to see that, but I don't think MusikAnimal is going to be very pleased! Maybe it's time for WP:SuperAutoConfirmed to be created as a new user group. —SpacemanSpiff 16:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
We already have a 'Reviewer' permission that could be pressed into service. It fits together with PC2, which unfortunately the community doesn't want to be used. Maybe that could change? EdJohnston (talk) 17:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
But giving "reviewer" rights to everyone over 500/30 would add to admin backlog, unless it turns out to be auto-issued like autoconfirmed which then defeats the purpose of the reviewer user group. My thoughts were that a simple "SuperAutoConfirmed" could probably be easy and then "Semi-protect" can have two options -- "Allow only autoconfimed" and "Allow only superautoconfirmed", sort of like "Full protection" now has "Allow only administrators" and "Allow only template editors and administrators" (though I think it came about to be this way because template protection couldn't be split from article protection). —SpacemanSpiff 17:26, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
How would SuperAutoConfirmed be given out? Through WP:PERM like the existing Rollback? EdJohnston (talk) 17:54, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I think of it as an extension of WP:AUTOCONFIRM, the system (or whatever the right term is) considers a user to be part of that group if they have completed 500/30 (akin to the 10/4 for autoconfirm) and should not involve admins having to grant this right. I'm guessing that at least 35% of the 1.4 million currently autoconfirmed users will be over the 500/30 threshold (including bots which do a lot of work on the covered articles) so handing out the right via admins by request to half a million users will be very problematic. If this seems a reasonable thing, then I think an ARCA motion to enable this new protection level as an arb action should probably suffice. I know that MA doesn't want the edit filter usage to continue long term as it's apparently very "expensive" (he explained what that meant, but I've happily forgotten). —SpacemanSpiff 18:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Please see related discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_page_protection#WP:ARBPIA3_and_protection --NeilN talk to me 19:26, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Notability (books)[edit]

Hi! Can you and any of your talk page stalkers and guideline/policy writers have a look at the doubt I raised at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(books)#Criteria_1_and_inheritance. It's been unanswered since long and hence thought of dropping this note. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

I couldn't quite understand your proposal. Can you clarify and perhaps give a few examples? Like one of the commentators said, I don't know what "inherited notability" means. - Kautilya3 (talk) 10:45, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@Kautilya3: tried clarifying. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:59, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I think you're specifically looking at ghost written books that get reviewed because XYZ is a page 3 celeb. It's an oddball case and too difficult to base something on. But if you make the criteria stricter it's going to be even more difficult to write an article on These Errors are Correct or The Perishable Empire. It's difficult to say that the number of reviews these two receive should be treated higher than XYZ's book which was covered on a daily basis by Times of India and Hindustan Times because the author is a page 3 celeb. This is more to do with using those sources to establish notability than the guideline itself; any review of The Perishable Empire was surely written by a writer whose opinion is valued as a book reviewer while the specific book you're referencing has reviews from film writers, gossip columnists, and such. This shouldn't be about inherited notability, rather the discussion should be about the quality of sources; but that is a losing battle as this history at WP:DSI would suggest where glamsham and indiaglitz are considered quality sources! —SpacemanSpiff 13:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Good that you at least understood where I am going. But it is damn difficult to talk about the quality of the review or reviewer. Every review is a notable review as our guideline does not suggest anything on that. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:47, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, I've been trying to write articles relevant to Indo-Anglian literature for as long as I've been here and this isn't a new issue for me. The problem of Page 3 celebs getting anything related to them kept while Sahitya Akademi award winning literature hardly ever getting covered is a pet peeve of mine. —SpacemanSpiff 04:07, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Well... we can't change off-wiki things like getting reviews written for SA winners but we at least can try and hinder the page 3 publishings by tightening our criteria around there. But doesn't seem to be working much... §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

regarding speedy deletion of Sankalp- Annual Social Convention of IIT Roorkee[edit]

Hi user

how do i get this page validated. i need to create the same page with same details.

thanks Bhavnoorsingh (talk) 07:57, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Why are you using multiple accounts? Also note that Wikipedia is not meant to be an advertising outlet. —SpacemanSpiff 07:58, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


Please see that an IP is WP:Canvassing at my talk page section named as "Neutral opinion and comment".--Vin09 (talk) 08:13, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

That's as obvious as it gets, I thought a range block was already done. Pinging @Smartse and Randykitty: as they are the ones following this OMICS mess. —SpacemanSpiff 09:33, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Cheers for the ping. I'm not sure whether it is worth blocking those IPs as they're mobile IPs and have only made one edit. I suggest Vin09 just ignores but if you get pestered further let me know. SmartSE (talk) 15:34, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Sure.--Vin09 (talk) 17:48, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Sandhya2012[edit]

Check this user. Mainly interested in movies and artists with very low popularity. Never replies to talk page messages.--The Avengers 16:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

That kind of stuff is what interests Dharmadhyaksha, so maybe he can take a look (I didn't find anything glaringly bad on the couple of pages I just looked at), I'm quite short on wiki time and the Indian film area is one that can just waste a ton of it. Also, in reg to your recent post on ANI, you may want to do a comparison with Arfaz (talk · contribs · count). I haven't had the time to look deeply, but I found some similar copyvios. It'll keep you busy! —SpacemanSpiff 17:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Advertising at Mirza Faizan[edit]

Who decides what is advertising? You? A discussion on global aviation issues looks advertising to you? Subject's notability looks advertising to you? I've seen your contribs and noticed you're playing this game of revising articles as per your whims and fancies. Stop this please. Thank you!

Let's be clear, Wikipedia is not an avenue to promote one's resume. You've been doing that for over a year now. Stop it or your editing privileges are likely to be revoked. —SpacemanSpiff 06:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

You are free to think whatever you wish to, but keep in mind you should not misuse your Sysops privileges to dominate a dispute. Identify which part you think is promotion and WHY? If there is anything appearing tones up or biased, tone it down, reason it. You cannot altogether delete the entire section which contains subject's panel discussion on national and international aviation safety issues and other media appearances. As we notice that after the dispute you've deleted the portions of article which you did not delete earlier, this clearly shows you've taken it on your personal ego and trying to prove a point. Keep in mind, wiki is a public asset and not a tool to satisfy one's ego. I might approach Wiki Foundation over your misuse of Sysops privileges. Stop this immediately! Thank you.

Indianscientists (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but forgive me for not taking advice from resume writers! You've been socking to get your way, and this conversation is useless with someone indulging in such blatant promotional activity. —SpacemanSpiff 06:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

It's OK. I understand, that's what happens when people writing on cricket starts giving their judgement & comments on Rocket Scientists! These days everyone wants to do everything. So, I understand your problem. I know this conversation is useless with someone indulging in polishing their ego by misusing their privileges.

Indianscientists (talk) 07:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Indianscientists, stating that an Administrator has misused this Administrator rights is a very serious accusation. I see no evidence of it, but you need to either prove this or drop it. I've also noticed that after your last warning an IP address repeated your edits. Was that you? Doug Weller (talk) 11:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
The two accounts have been blocked as socks, Doug. —SpacemanSpiff 17:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
No surprise I guess. Doug Weller (talk) 17:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for dealing with that; you blocked one of the disruptive editors, but this one was playing the same games, and could (IMHO) use the same treatment. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:42, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Update: It's been taken care of. thanks anyhow! Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize that. I thought the other one was just reverting the first. Sigh. —SpacemanSpiff 12:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)