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Kentucky battlefield articles[edit]

Hello! I was doing New Page Patrol and I came across your Kentucky battlefield articles. I just wanted to thank you for bringing this information to Wikipedia. As someone with a strong interest in the U.S. Civil War, I greatly appreciated your contributions. Thank you! Pastor Theo (talk) 02:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Confederate military units[edit]

I know you said you were planning to start creating articles for Kentucky's Confederate military units. I ran across some info last night I thought I'd share. E. Polk Johnson's A History of Kentucky and Kentuckians gives some good information about the formation and action of the 11th Kentucky Cavalry on page 794. The unit was raised in Richmond just after the Battle of Richmond by a man named David Walter Chenault. The unit participated in Morgan's Raid, and Chenault was killed at the Battle of Tebbs Bend. James B. McCreary, later twice-governor of Kentucky, took command following Chenault's death. Because of this, there might be more info on the 11th Cavalry than many other Confederate units. Powell's Kentucky Governors mentions that the unit may have been called the 7th Kentucky Cavalry at some point. Hope this helps you get a start. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 11:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Kansas Award[edit]

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For outstanding work in creating the Kansas Civil War regiment articles. Keep up the good work! ilamb94 (talk) 16:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Attribution of A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion[edit]

I noticed that you have been attributing text in some of your edits (eg this one), which is of course the correct thing to do. However I notice that you have been attributing the same source in a lot of articles. I think it would be a good idea if you were to create a specific template for that source, so that the articles that rely on "A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion by Frederick Henry Dyer" can all be placed in an separate specific category. (one of the reasons I had for writing the general template was to flag frequent usage like this). You will find example that you can use at Category:Attribution templates. If you decide to implement one, although I am no expert on them, I will help you if you run into problems. -- PBS (talk) 11:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree 100% and will be happy to do this ... once I have learned how. Hope to have it in place by Monday. Thank you for the excellent suggestion. -- Spacini (talk) 22:02, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I have written it (See {{CWR}}) and have altered one article 10th Ohio Infantry to use it. It places the article in Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion but because it is a hidden category it does not appear in the category list at the bottom of the article. If you wish to move the articles into different numbers then see {{DEFAULTSORT}} -- PBS (talk) 12:22, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
For example {{DEFAULTSORT|Ohio Infantry, 10th}} will move the entry from "1" to "o". -- PBS (talk) 12:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
To do mass repetitive edits of articles, consider using Wikipedia:AWB -- PBS (talk) 12:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I have a toddler and didn't get a chance to do the work I had planned. I'll start adding these to the articles I have created. Spacini (talk) 18:11, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
So you're in the "I've move the ornaments onto the top shelf" stage in life! I ran AWB today and altered all the source-attribution templates containing "A Compendium of ..." to {{CWR}}. The categories take a little time to update and I'll have to wait and see how many I've missed due to slightly different strings. AWB is quite a strict disiplinarian and it also looks for non standard things to alter when run on a page. In this case the only think it seemed to spot was that the section "See also" came after the "References" section, so I allowed it to fix that "mistake". TTFN --PBS (talk) 14:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Wallace Wilkinson[edit]

Thanks for some clarification on the Wilkinson article. I have Harrison's Kentucky's Governors, but I try to expand one source at a time and hadn't gotten there yet. I hope to get the article ready for GA in the next week or two. Any sources, etc. you can find are most welcome. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 14:49, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm the author of the Wilkinson chapter in Kentucky's Governors. Dr. Harrison didn't want too much on the Wilkinsons' financial problems, but given that much of it was in place before he became governor and started to unravel while he was in office, it was hard not to write about it at length. Took me several weeks just to sort through all of the articles and documents about the court cases and distill it down to a few paragraphs. I'd love to see the Wilkinson article get GA status; thanks for taking the time to get it polished. I'll help where I can. -Spacini (talk) 15:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Regarding the use of quotation marks around the name "Glenn" in the name of Gov. Wilkinson's son, it was meant to convey that Glenn is the name he goes by. Is my premise incorrect or my punctuation? Acdixon (talk contribs count) 21:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Your premise is 100% correct, he does use Glenn. However, it's just the punctuation that's incorrect. My understanding of using quotation marks for names, is only if the name is a nickname. -Spacini (talk) 21:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Just finished my work on the Wilkinson article. Would you give it a once-over before I nominate it for GA? Just drop me a note on my talk page when you've finished your review. Thanks! Acdixon (talk contribs count) 18:23, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Having done some preliminary work on the Brereton Jones article, I didn't realize that the feud between he and Wilkinson stemmed from KERA. Can you point me in the right direction of some reading on that? A free online source would be great, but I also have access to most articles from the Herald-Leader and Kentucky Post for the past 30 years or so via my library. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 18:52, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I've decided to move ahead with my GA nom of the Wilkinson article. It frequently takes a month or two to get a GA review, and even if a review comes earlier, I believe the article is broad in coverage, which is the GA standard, even without the information about the feud between Wilkinson and Jones. I'll be working on the Jones article more in the near future as well, and I can make improvements to both articles as I continue to research. Again, any resources you can point me to are welcomed. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 18:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


You seem to have excellent sources on Civil War soldiers and units, so I'm turning to you for some help, if possible. I'm composing an article on Parker Watkins Hardin, several times attorney general of Kentucky and three time gubernatorial candidate. Many texts refer to him as "General Hardin", yet I cannot find even the briefest mention of his military service. He was born in 1841, so I consider it likely that he served in the Civil War. A passage from Klotter's Decades of Discord mentions that the entire slate of Democratic candidates in 1883 (which included Hardin) was composed of ex-Confederate soldiers or Confederate sympathizers. This leads me to believe that Hardin was probably a Confederate officer. Complicating the research is the fact that his name is variously given as "Parker", "Watt", "P. Wat", "P. W.", and even a nickname "Polly Wolly"! I cannot fathom how someone could rise to a generalship and not have a single thing written about their military service. Can you give me anything to go on? Acdixon (talk contribs count) 15:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I hadn't thought of "General" being a reference to "attorney general". Perhaps that is the case. Seems odd that no source would mention his military service if he had any. If you're curious, look for the article to show up at DYK soon. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 14:39, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hi. I have noticed your ACW edits for a long time and admire the sense of quality you put to the task. A brief question: what does CE refer to in an edit summary? Hal Jespersen (talk) 23:32, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Hal, many thanks for your note and the compliment. CE stands for copy editing. Basically, it's editing for proper grammar, punctuation, complete sentences, clarity, and subject/verb agreement. Incidentally, I'm a great fan of your ACW maps. They're simply outstanding. Best wishes. Spacini (talk) 02:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, thank you! I had no clue about copy editing. I was thinking continuous enhancement or something. Confederate ennoblement. :-) Hal Jespersen (talk) 16:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi. Let's discuss the battle of Fort Stevens here rather than reverting each other. Two points. When you make a statement in an article such as "it was the only the second time" that something happened, it behooves you to identify the first time, either parenthetically or in a footnote. Second, I do not have the Wills book, but did some searching of the contents on Google and Amazon, where I could find no mention of Madison participating directly in the battle or his cabinet being almost captured. In fact, I found a reference to him and his cabinet back in Washington. The Wikipedia article on James Madison mentions nothing about this incident. The article on the battle of Bladensburg does mention it in the aftermath section, although it does not cite the assertion. Doing some other searches around the web came up with nothing. If you are convinced that the Wills book indicates he participated directly in the battle – was under fire, as Lincoln was at Fort Stevens – can you please add an appropriate citations of the Fort Stevens article, including page numbers? Thanks, and best regards. Hal Jespersen (talk) 16:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Will do! I thought it was well-known that Madison had seen action at Bladensburg. My War of 1812 materials are in storage and I'll have to dig them out. Bladensburg is a fascinating battle and isn't entirely the "cut and run" battle that it has been described as. Secretary of War Monroe is actually to blame for a lot of the problems there after he got involved and started changing the military commanders' plans. This will take me a couple of weeks to get to as I am on vacation. In the meantime, check out the discussion on the Battle of Fort Stevens talk page. The topic was brought up a couple of years ago (not by me) and apparently dismissed due to lack of citations. Also, feel free to revert it back until I have the sources. Cheers! Spacini (talk) 19:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Here is an additional data point. I found online a copy of Glenn Tucker's Poltroons and Patriots (Bobbs-Merrill, 1954) and in vol 2, p. 537, he writes:

These dispositions were being completed when a mounted detachment halted in the rear of Winder's position and surveyed the spectacle of an American army making ready for combat. It was Mr. Madison, the President, wearing his dueling pistols and accompanied by Rush, Wadsworth and others of his entourage. Except for Lincoln's visit to Fort Stevens on the 7th Street pike during Jubal Early's raid on Washington, when Mr. Lincoln was within range of desultory firing, this appearance by Mr. Madison at Bladensburg constitutes the only presence of the commander in chief with an American army in battle. ... President Madison nearly was guilty of wandering into the center of the British Army. He left the rear and rode through the heart of the American position until he reached the East Branch bridge into Bladensburg, which he was about to cross when an American scout told him he was already in no man's land and that the enemy was just over Lowndes Hill. He turned back and met Monroe, who informed him of the American alignment and the approach of the British.

So Monroe's actual actions are still a bit ambiguous, but I think that Tucker would have worded his claim differently if Monroe had been under fire, as Lincoln had. Perhaps it would be best to word the Wikipedia article about Lincoln at Fort Stevens in the way that Tucker did. Hal Jespersen (talk) 23:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

I have added a citation for President Madison and some of his cabinet members coming under enemy fire (Congreve rockets) at the Battle of Bladensburg to the article on the Battle of Fort Stevens. I also corresponded with the book's author, Anthony Pitch who verified again that Madison was under fire at the battle, but that he did not take up any arms or fire any artillery. While I'm not comfortable sharing Professor Pitch's email address publicly, I'll gladly ask him to contact you Hal, if you still aren't convinced that Madison wasn't under enemy fire. Spacini (talk) 01:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Nope, this level of specificity from a reliable source is good enough for me. Thank you for researching. (I am now unwatching your page.) Hal Jespersen (talk) 16:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


Hi. Since I have temporarily been watching your user page in conjunction with the Madison issue, I noticed the public domain squabble you are having with a bot. I have a superior reference citation for Dyer's work, which you may find useful because it has a link to an online copy:

Hal Jespersen (talk) 22:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

John Y. Brown[edit]

Hello, friend. Me again. Hoping you might be able to track down the Civil War service of another politician. According to the National Governors Association, Governor John Y. Brown enlisted as a cavalry colonel in the Confederate Army during the war, but none of my other sources about Brown mention such service. I don't know a lot about military ranks, but it seems to me that colonel is a non-trivial rank, and some record should exist of his service if he indeed had such a rank. Do you know or can you find out anything about this? Acdixon (talk contribs count) 17:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

There is no credible evidence that Brown served as a colonel in the Confederate service during the war. He was living in Henderson, Kentucky during the war and was definitely a Confederate sympathizer, which caused him to be denied being seated in the U.S. House of Representatives in 1866 when he was elected. (John W. Stevenson--himself a "states-righter", if not a full-fledged Confederate sympathizer--gave a passionate thrashing to Congress for denying Brown his seat in Congress for having been a sympathizer. No mention is made of any CS service.) Being a native Kentuckian, I can assure you that "colonel" is a very trivial title (I'm a Kentucky Colonel myself). It's possible that Brown achieved an actual colonel's rank in the state militia either before or after the war, but as for CSA service, there's not a shred of evidence for it. Spacini (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. As NGA is known to miss sometimes, I figured this might be the case. I can't find mention of any military service, militia or otherwise, outside this one source. Also being a native Kentuckian, I'm aware of the worthlessness of the Kentucky Colonel rank; I was thinking of the actual military rank, not the ceremonial honor. I'll remove this error from Brown's article. I think it's almost FA-worthy now, but I doubt I'll get around to nominating it for a while yet. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 14:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I've got this article at FAC now and the question has come up about what, exactly, Brown was doing during the Civil War. None of the sources I've seen give any specifics. Can you point me in the direction of a source that gives some elaboration? Acdixon (talk contribs count) 15:16, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
I've got a professor buddy of mine in Henderson looking at some local sources that I do not have access to. Should have an answer in a couple of days. Brown biographer Robert Ireland states, "During the Civil War he grew progressively disenchanted with the Union, so much so that the House refused to seat him for alleged disloyalty following his election to that body in 1866." (Kentucky's Governors (2004), p. 123) Given his second marriage in 1860, which produced eight children, I suspect that he simply attempted to remain neutral, raised his family, and practiced law. Spacini (talk) 15:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Any word from your friend yet? I'm afraid it is going to look like I've abandoned the nomination if I can't give them something soon. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 16:06, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Nothing new turned up, other than Brown moved to Henderson following the Civil War. During the war, he was in Nelson County, Kentucky. Spacini (talk) 16:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Nelson County? What do we make of this, then? On page 102, Brown is identified by Stovepipe Johnson as one of the city leaders of Henderson. This event was sometime between the Battle of Shiloh and the Newburgh Raid in 1862. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 17:20, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, that was a mis-reading on my part. Powell says that Brown was living in Hardin County, practicing law in Elizabethtown prior to the war. When he moved to Henderson is a matter of great confusion. Even the article here states that he moved to Henderson after the Civil War. Perhaps an email to the Centre College archivist could shed some light on this. They keep really good records on their notable alumni. Spacini (talk) 19:33, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, hadn't realized that the article contradicted Stovepipe Johnson's account until you pointed it out. That the time and circumstances of his move to Henderson are unclear might be enough to relieve the heartburn of the reviewer questioning his wartime activities. The fact is that we don't really know what he was up to during the war, but we're pretty sure he didn't enlist. It promises to be a busy week, but maybe I'll have time to squeeze in a query to the Centre archivist.
Is the Powell source you are referring to the same on that is in the bibliography of the article? I got that one at my local library when I first started working on this article, but haven't consulted it recently. Acdixon (talk contribs count) 20:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes. Spacini (talk) 23:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject United States[edit]

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WikiProject Kentucky[edit]

Good Job on getting the Governor featured. I just noticed you left a discussion comment on the WikiProject Kentucky's talk page. Someone recently suggested to me that it might be beneficial for WPKentucky, Lousiville and the Coal Fields task force to be added to the supported projects list of WikiProject United States. I left a discussion about it on the projects talk page but there hasn't been any comment yet. Normally I take this as consent but since you left the comment I thought I would ask you for your take on the suggestion because I don't want to do anything that isn't wanted by the members of the project. I appreciate any input. --Kumioko (talk) 14:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Go for it! (Incidentally, I had nothing to do with the Gov Beckham article. It was largely the work of Acdixon.) Spacini (talk) 01:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

American Civil War Articles[edit]


Subject: American Civil War Articles.

I've noticed you've done many articles concerning the "American Civil War" with a single reference of "A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion" (1908) by Frederick Henry Dyer. It may be in the public domain since it was published in 1908, while my point being is that the body of text of each article seems to be confusing to the average reader. If I may list my points which seem to be wrong with these articles:

  1. The articles are not properly formatted into proper sentences and not much detail.
  2. They are unreferenced, unsourced and is only being supported by the above source. Which of course could be challenged.
  3. The information, such as the sentences (places, battles, years, etc) seem to run into each other.
  4. Regiments, Units, etc, appear from one place and date to another place and date somewhere else magically without the details of what happened in that period of time.
  5. There could be more thing's wrong with them unfortunately, my brain is a little slow of a morning.

In my opinion, if you go back to the articles you've written and made the grammer, punctuation and sentences, references (and sources) appear you've taken a really long good effort to make it into a good article such as "B class" which at WikiProject Military History, we encourage Users to do good articles. Please don't be offended, would like you to be aware that it is a concern. Adamdaley (talk) 23:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your detailed response on this matter at Milhist. I have thrown the topic open to further ideas, as it seems now that this huge number of related articles has been brought to our attention, it seems as good a time as ever to discuss their development from stubs to higher quality articles, where possible. I am sure there is potential for many an A-class, GA and FA article in there, depending on the involvement some regiments had in the war, e.g. 20th Maine being just one example of a really involved Union regiment. If you wish to discuss any ideas or comment on the proposal I raised, please see WT:MILHIST#ACW regimental articles for details. Cheers, Ma®©usBritish [Chat • RFF] 06:45, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Researcher's Barnstar[edit]

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For finding information that I'd been pulling my hair out over its unfindability, specifically the date of birth for Terry McCarthy (racing driver). Many thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 18:07, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to our little corner of WP![edit]


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Hi. Thanks for adding those pesky DOBs (i.e. Lynne Abraham, et al). I don't have a subscription to and used up my free trial, so I don't have access to that info, I don't believe. Thanks again. Quis separabit? 16:43, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

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Rachel Proctor[edit]

Just wondering why you tagged her DOB with a [citation needed] when there's already a citation for it in the infobox. Did you overlook the infobox? Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 07:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

  • And why did you blank this without giving me an answer? I was just wondering if this was an honest mistake on your part. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 20:56, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
    • I don't take kindly to being called a "dumbass". Mystery solved? Spacini (talk) 21:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
      • My apologies. [citation needed] is a major pet peeve of mine for various reasons, and I took out my frustration on an undeserving target. It's clear you just made it in error. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 22:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
        • Apology appreciated and fully accepted. I believe it was a result of the "ANI discussion about dates of birth and BLP violations" thread above. I did, in fact, mistakenly use primary sources in the public record to add dates of birth to living persons' articles, in ignorance of the the WP:BLP policy about using public, primary sources. Their logic confounds me, but I promised to undo all of the "damage" I had done, and in doing so, I think Rachel Proctor's article was one that I accidentally tagged. And in all honesty, [citation needed] is a major pet peeve of mine as well, especially when a public, primary source is available. The biography folks' argument that a person with a Wikipedia article isn't necessarily a public figure is paradoxical--at least it is to me--and therefore only if dates of birth are mentioned in a secondary source, should they be used for citation purposes. Isn't it logical that if an individual is well-known enough to have a Wikipedia article that a date of birth should be part of that person's article? Sorry, I digress. BE BOLD (but never mix logic and WP policies)! Spacini (talk) 22:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussion regarding WikiProject Kansas[edit]

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Hi Spacini, I see that Proud Irish Aspie is adding hundreds of flags to biography infoboxes. I have reverted many but he (?) keeps on going. As I understand it, flags in infoboxes are valid to denote armies engaged in conflict, as in American Civil War, but not for individual combatants. Is that your take? Cheers. Span (talk) 11:36, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Grrr! I thought it might just be the Lew Wallace article. I'll post a message about WP:INFOBOXFLAG on the user's talk page. Maybe that will get his attention. Thanks for the note. Spacini (talk) 15:08, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Is it only combatant armies that can have infoflags or are there other exceptions? Ta. Span (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
My understanding is that battle articles and regimental unit history articles may contain the flag icons, and that in the latter example, state flags are permissible when an image of the unit's flag is not extant. Spacini (talk) 15:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. I see PIA is still roundly ignoring all warnings and continuing. He's added flags to well over 3000 articles. aSpan (talk) 21:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

New essay[edit]

Hi, a new essay is being drawn up at Wikipedia:Icons in military articles. You thoughts/input would be welcome. Span (talk) 21:32, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

What about the Scharf mismatch between commanders...[edit]

Hi ..I noticed your revert... I understand the philosophy ...and somewhat understand the point of view.. but what about the issue whether Maulsby was the commander?...

Risk Engineer (talk) 14:17, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I see what you're getting at. I studied the command structure of the regiment and Cook is an enigma. The regiment was clearly organized and placed under the command of Maulsby Sr. (using Sr. because his son also served as an officer in the regiment). Cook's service record reads:
Enlisted in Company A, Maryland 1st PHB Infantry Regiment on 15 Aug 1861. Promoted to full captain on 11 Nov 1861. Promoted to major on 6 Feb 1863. Promoted to full lt colonel on 23 Nov 1863. Promoted to full colonel on 24 Feb 1865. Mustered out on 18 Apr 1865. Transferred to F&S Maryland 13th Regiment on 13 Apr 1865. Mustered out 29 May 1865 at Baltimore.
This clearly begs the question of what he was doing from December 1864 to 18 Apr 1865, as the regiment had supposedly completed mustering out of all ranks by the end of December 1864.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'm going to contact a friend who's an expert on Maryland Union regiments and see what she has on this.
Spacini (talk) 15:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

William Dennes Mahan[edit]

At the William Dennes Mahan article, written by you, is a piece of fascinating testimony from the minutes of the presbytery. Can you say where you got these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

VA grave markers[edit]

Hello, I posted some info at Talk:United States Department of Veterans Affairs emblems for headstones and markers regarding the five pointed star. I'd suggest filing a FOIA request with the VA about this. - Thanks, Hoshie 09:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

List of American Civil War brevet generals (Union)[edit]

I would appreciate your opinion on changes I propose to make in the last column of the article, List of American Civil War brevet generals (Union). When I completed the list in the article, except for the last column, I began to add information to the last column. After more or less finishing with the names which started with the letters A and B, I stopped the additions but for a very few types of entries for a few of the listed officers. Based on my experience with the List of American Civil War generals (Confederate), I was afraid that complaints would be made that the article was too large and should be split. I saved that from happening mainly by deleting quite a lot of the information of the type in the last column. For various reasons (cross references, among them), I would prefer that all the names be on the same page. The table gridlines add quite a few bytes but I do not know a way to organize the information without them. That was the only other way to cut the size of the article without eliminating information that I thought should be included.

I put some of the information in the table because of its value as a quick reference in writing or revising other articles as well as to provide identification of the officers. Also, I think it unlikely that all of these officers will have articles about them so this may be the only information Wikipedia will have about them. Also, there is much misunderstanding even among some people who are familiar with Civil War history about when most of these appointments really were made and what they mean. That is why, for example, I have added the appointments by President Lincoln as a note in the last column. All of the others were basically commendations.

I added some small amount of information in fewer categories to some of the other names and some may still need that information. Other editors have added some of the types of information I have for the names with the first two letters to some later names. What I propose to do is limit the types of information in that last column, which will result in deleting some information currently there, mostly for names under the letters A and B. The purpose would be to eliminate some clutter and large boxes for some of the generals. Also, it would be to keep complaints about article size from arising. I do note that the article has existed for some time now without such complaints. Most of the information that would be eliminated would be about political offices and other accomplishments which would be information which would make it more likely than articles would exist or be written about the persons. I would keep Medals of Honor, KIA, appointment by President Lincoln and a few other types of military facts.

I don't know how it looks to others but I think the final column either seems to be unfinished after the letter B or that the information for the names starting with the letters A and B are overdone. Actually, I would rather add the information down the line but I think that carries some risk of calls to pare it down.

You have worked on the article and are interested in American Civil War topics. So I ask your opinion on whether you see any problem with cutting back the information as noted. Of course, there are two other options: leave it the way it is so that no attention is drawn or judiciously add a little information to later entries. That is readily available to me since I own the main sources, Civil War High Commands and Brevet Brigadier Generals in Blue. The latter title seems to be almost a misnomer since brevet major generals are included; I suppose all or almost all of them were brevet brigadiers as well. Still leaving out the "brigadier" appears more accurate.

Thanks for considering this. Donner60 (talk) 04:38, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Upcoming event at the WWI Museum in Kansas City[edit]

Hello! I would like to invite you to a Wikipedia editathon about WWI and Dissent on November 22 at the National World War I Museum in Kansas City. Join us for the U.S. branch of this international event as we write more social history from the era around WWI into Wikipedia! All editors are welcome, contributors to topics around WWI other than Dissent also encouraged! Food and drinks will be supplied by the WWI museum, Sadads (talk) 21:38, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey Spacini! I was looking through the event's list of attendees, and was a bit surprised your name wasn't on there because of your MILHIST wrok! Any chance of you attending? If not, totally understand; busy time of the year, Sadads (talk) 17:55, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the follow up. Yeah, it's a really bad time for me and I'll probably be out of town. Please keep me posted about other events in this area. Spacini (talk) 17:57, 6 November 2014 (UTC)


User talk:Acdixon#Suggestion. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 21:39, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Art+Feminism in the Kansas City Area[edit]

Join us for the fight for free and equal knowledge!

I want to invite you to two upcoming Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism meetups in the Kansas City Area, as part of Women's History Month. The first event will be on March 7 in Lawrence from 10:00am to 5PM and the second on March 28, 2015 from 12:00 PM to 4:30 PM at the Kansas City Public Library. Join us either digitally or physically for these events! Of course, like other Wikipedia events, editors are more than welcome to edit about topics of their own interest, but our hope is to help close the gender gap on Wikipedia! Join us for both these welcoming events! Sadads (talk) 01:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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Removal of flag icons[edit]

Just out of curiosity--and please understand that this is not a complaint, simply a curious question--why did you remove the flag icons from the James A. Mulligan article? Are they being removed from all similar articles, or was there a specific reason, here? Like I said: this is not by any means a complaint, simply a question. Thanks! - Ecjmartin (talk) 02:35, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. A little over a year ago (maybe longer, my memory isn't perfect), a Wikipedia editor caused a major stir by repeatedly adding countries' flags to infoboxes, especially those of Civil War officers. The outcome from the discussion that followed was WP:INFOBOXFLAG. (The discussion--for what it's worth--is still occasionally debated and questioned.) But for now, the style guideline that we agreed to adhere to in WP:INFOBOXFLAG is to keep the infoboxes from becoming cluttered with non-essential flags. Best wishes,

Spacini (talk) 15:57, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks for the info. I've put some of those icons into infoboxes in the past, since I never knew about this development. Definitely nice to know for the future; gives me one less thing to worry about. Thanks again! - Ecjmartin (talk) 17:38, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
You're most welcome. I should have remembered to put in the WP:INFOBOXFLAG on my edit note. I'll have to get into the habit of doing that again. Spacini (talk) 20:11, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Several upcoming Wikipedia events in Kentucky[edit]

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Lexington, KY Wiki Loves Pride 2015[edit]

Lexington Pride Festival : June 27, 2015. Location: Lexington Pride Festival venues. Take photographs of the Lexington Pride Festival and upload them to Wikimedia Commons.
Wiki Loves Pride edit-a-thon : June 30, 2015. 7:00 pm. Location to be determined.

Lexington, KY/Wiknic 2015[edit]

Meet up for a picnic with other Wikipedian in Kentucky on July 25, 2015 from 12:00-3:00pm.

Sign up on event pages. Sydney Poore/FloNight♥♥♥♥ 00:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)