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I agree that the trumpet article needs a lot of work. I've noticed your efforts and appreciate them. Welcome to Wikipedia!--Dbolton 07:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


Special-T trumpet overtone series.png

Here's the image as promised. Please put it into relevant articles as soon as possible. - Mgm|(talk) 21:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

More trumpet vandals[edit]

I noticed that you reverted some recent vandalism to Trumpet. There's another one on there and since I'm fairly new at this (haven't read up enough on reverting and the appropriate warnings, etc.), I thought I'd ask you to revert it and take the appropriate action. Thanks. Special-T 15:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note! I have gone ahead and reverted the vandalism. If you want to read more about reverting vandalism, check out WP:VAND. Thanks again, --Hansnesse 16:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


Do you mean our anonymous friend who inserted links to videposters dot co dot uk again? Yes, as you no doubt saw I dealt with this yesterday. I am afraid the best way I know is going through the anon's contributions list and reverting them singly, which is probably what you did. Looking at the user's contributions, s/he spent three-quarters of an hour adding links that have been almost immediately removed - s/he will probably work out that it is not the best use of time, and that there are more effective methods of search-engine optimisation! Keep up the good work! Best wishes, --RobertGtalk 13:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof![edit]

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Special-T! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Bass clarinet category[edit]

A lot about the categories don't make sense. Anyway, you're right that it seems strange that the Bass clarinet article would be part of a category called "bass clarinetists." The most logical way would be to have the bass clarinet article in a category "Bass clarinet," then "Bass clarinetists" be a subcategory of that. But there's no "Bass clarinet" category right now because there's not really anything to put into it other than articles on bass clarinetists. In the future perhaps one could be added, to include articles on various models of bass clarinet or other bass-clarinet-related articles. For now, the main thing is to direct Wikipedia users to other related articles and categories so that they can further their research. Without including "Bass clarinetists" as a category there's no good way to do that. Badagnani 23:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, at least that's the way I've been doing it because to me the usefulness of the site is more important than being a stickler to the rules. It's very possible that having the players as a category in the instrument article is not kosher but I just don't see any other way to get our readers to the category otherwise. Badagnani 23:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

That's good to know. This seems most sensible, though many editors are very strict about not including overlapping categories, treating them as mutually exclusive. In many cases I disagree with this. Badagnani 23:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for your gentle reminder to clean up the grammar on my last jazz entry. Americasroof 13:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Flat signs[edit]

I noticed the new round of flat sign changes on the trumpet article too. Apparently this isn't a problem for any of the main competitors to Internet Explorer, i.e. Mozilla/Firefox, Safari, or Opera. I was hoping this problem would fade away with time, since Microsoft is releasing a new version of IE in the next few months. Unfortunately, this bug has not been addressed in the current preview release (beta 3) of IE 7. The missing flat sign in IE is part of a wider issue: lack of support for mixed Unicode blocks (See Unicode and HTML#Web browser support). --Dbolton 18:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I recently changed some symbols to "flat" in the clarinet article on the basis of wanting to be more understandable. Apparently, there's a group who feel strongly against this, despite obvious problems with so many users seeing blank spaces. Just as the "real" flat sign is unsupported in some browsers, surely it is also difficult to comprehend for people outside or tangentially outside the music world, who have no idea what that "b" thing is. I'm in the music world myself, but think it would be far better to use English (spelling out "flat") rather than using a specialty symbol. If, that is, we want the most people to read and understand and comprehend, rather than merely being "correct" in our own small field. Yes? No? Other thoughts? (Wasn't sure where to put this, so I put it here.) QwertyUSA 11:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

We have been trying to develop a possible solution to the Unicode flats and sharps issue at the Manual of Style for music. Please visit Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (music)#Unicode template for sharps and flats if you have an interest in this or care to comment.--Dbolton 00:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Your note on ANI[edit]

I read your note in the Adminstrators' Noticeboard...on the vandalism-only account. I've reviewed the edits. With the exception of one/two edits, as you noted, they are all vandalism. I've placed a temporary block on the editor. — ERcheck (talk) 03:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Image uploading[edit]

Drop me an email with the images attached and give me as much information about when, where and what was photographed. Also, let me know if you took them yourself or if there is another source and what license you would like them to have. - Mgm|(talk) 16:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Sonny Rollins?[edit]

See my query there about yesterday's revert - I'm interested in understanding the reasons? AllyD 11:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

rm linkspam?[edit]

Hi, I would like to understand why you removed Dave Douglas @ All About Jazz from the external links section of the article Dave Douglas (and links to other pages from other jazz related articles). Your edit summary rm linkspam doesn't make it clear for me what your objections to that link are. Best regards, BNutzer 19:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I found User_talk:Infrogmation#Jazz_link_-_spam.3F after posting the above ... BNutzer 20:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
See also Talk:Jazz#Commercial_links for more discussion on this topic ... -- Nilinator 20:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Odd vandalism[edit]

Greetings! It took me a minute to figure it out before I reverted that one. Apparently the vandal copied and pasted the entire paragraph on "Renaissance self-awareness" into another section later in the article, so unless I'm missing something (not impossible) it should be right now. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 20:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC) vandalism[edit]

Greetings! I've twice removed your report of User: vandalism from Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. The reason is that no vandalism has occurred past a {{uw-vandal4}} type warning or similar within the recent past. We do not operate on the immediate assumption that all edits from an IP are from the same person. The IP, especially one that is shared, could be used by anyone. In this particular case, there is no persistent chain of vandalism on related articles pointing to the possibility that this is a static IP used by a single person. As such, we must assume that we are dealing with multiple people, and use warnings appropriate to the occasion. With that in mind, we usually block an anon IP after they have continued vandalizing past a level 4 type warning that was given within the last 24 hours at most. This is why I've twice removed your report. I have left a level 2 warning on the IP's talk page. This, combined with the fact that there has been no activity from this IP for the last three hours means a block will have little, if any, effect on the person committing the vandalism. I hope this helps. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. --Durin 16:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Greetings Special-T and Durin, and all! I agree that it is pretty certain that anon IPs are used by multiple users, and not all users are to be blamed for mis-use, but I have come across some/many cases in which there are clear patterns that suggest the same person/s (dare I say vandal?) is/are participating at the same time of day/once a week or whatever. Such behaviour seems to take place during school time and if such is the case, the teacher might be interested to know why a certain IP in his/her class has been blocked. My rationale for thinking that it's just kids having "fun" is that, barring some nasty arguments I've seen on Wikipedia, most adults don't really have time or interest in vandalising other people's contributions - do they? Be that as it may, my original reason for contacting you was to ask you to direct me to the ABC of reporting/dealing with vandalism, etc. for a crash course in helping out. Thanx and rgrds. Technopat 16:14, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanx for your prompt reply and recommendations. --Technopat 22:14, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


Hello! I just noticed that you helped fix one of my userboxes earlier and I just wanted to say thanks. Have a good day and take care! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ann Stouter --Ann Stouter 01:36, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


How DARE you try to patronise me - I made a legitimate edit to cut out an unnecassary statement and I will be reverting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: 13 February 2007

Your edit removed information from the article Clarinet that was somewhat useful. You did not include an edit summary, so your actions were open to misinterpretation. It looked like someone who had never edited Wikipedia (I checked, and these were your only edits) had experimented with the page, so I posted the good-natured test-1 warning. Notice that it says “Welcome and thank you…”. As for deleting the test-1 warning from your talk page, have a look at Wikipedia:Vandalism “removing warnings from one’s own talk page is often frowned upon.” I’m sure you noticed (since you re-reverted) that another editor reverted your deletion for that very reason. So please use edit summaries, sign your posts, and do not attack other editors. This isn’t my opinion, it’s Wikipedia policy. (copied from User talk: Special-T 04:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

For your information, I have been editing wikipedia for a number of years now, just becuase my IP address only has edits today does not mean that I haven't edited it before. You will put people off editing if everything you don't agree with is construed as "vandalism". Why should I be warned about making a legimate edit just becuase you don't necessarily agree with it? Oh BTW how was my comment a personal attack. If people are going to "warn" me for no good reason I have a right to respond, I did not threaten you or insult you in any way. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: 14 February 2007

  • Your edits came from an IP address with no other edits - by all appearances they were someone's first edits. They had no edit summary. They removed somewhat useful information. In short, they looked exactly like someone had experimented with Wikipedia by changing text in an article. Your failure to sign your post on my talk page also indicated an editor unfamiliar with Wikipedia. Your response, while not a threat, was a personal attack in that it was not about the content of the edit, but was rather directed at me personally - it started with "How DARE you..." - and was certainly hostile and uncivil. That and your deletion of the warning also indicated an editor who was not familiar with Wikipedia policy, as does your deletion of your hostile comment from my talk page. Sorry if I misinterpreted your intent. (also copied from User talk: - Special-T 12:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

More insanity from the same user (editing as User:Vcxzfdsa ), copied from his blanked talk page:

In response to your unsigned message on my talk page:

  • On the clarinet page you removed the comment saying they are made out of wood or plastic, what else can they be made from then? you said "many materials" - yes - that's becuase there are many types of wood and plastic - and all common clarinet materials fall into these two categories. (unsigned again)

- First, please sign your posts on talk pages. - Second, I'm guessing that you are the same user as User:, since you have both been making the same edits and posting unsigned comments to my talk page. It is easier for everyone to keep track of who's who if a logged-in user uses his/her username instead of ISP. - Third, please read the Clarinet article before you edit it further. There is a section dealing with the instrument's construction. If one wanted to know what materials clarinets are made of, one place to look would be, indeed, the Wikipedia article Clarinet, which provides that information. I hope this helps. - Special-T 23:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it doesn't - it says exactly what I said, generally wood and plastic - barring metal, which is very rare. Do not presume I have not read the article becuase I have.


On the clarinet page you removed the comment saying they are made out of wood or plastic, what else can they be made from then? you said "many materials" - yes - that's becuase there are many types of wood and plastic - and all common clarinet materials fall into these two categories.


I just removed a bunch of it :). Darthgriz98 18:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


Special-T, I noticed that you reverted one of my edits, but I can't for the life of me figure out - what did you change? (Sam Rivers's flute entry?) Thanks.Carlaclaws 16:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I think that clears it up for me.Carlaclaws 16:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


A Google Books search turns up the following uses of "clarino register" in relation to clarinets:

  • Anthony Baines, Woodwind Instruments and Their History
  • Albert R. Rice, The Clarinet in the Classical Period
  • Nicholas Cox, in Colin Lawson (ed.), The Cambridge Companion to the Clarinet

If it's a mistake, it's a mistake being made by some pretty major authorities. (I note, though, that Rice uses both "clarino" and "clarion".) On the other hand, it looks as though "clarion" is considerably more commonly used than "clarino". My inclination would be to use "clarion" but note "clarino" as a synonym. -- Rsholmes 19:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I catch you using "nukular", I will revert! -- Rsholmes 19:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

No mistake. See cited source, New Grove Dict. of Musical Instruments; it gives "clarinet", "clarino", and "clarion" all as accepted names for the second register, with "clarinet" being the term they prefer. -- Rsholmes 22:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

My bad? - actually not...[edit]

User T, I have not edited any wikipages recently. I believe that my IP has been confused. No Big Deal though. - unsigned

The IP from which that message was posted (User: was the source of vandalism and was properly tagged by me in November 2007. - Special-T 01:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I appologise[edit]

Thanks for the message on this IPs talk page. This is a school computer, and I'm very sorry for telling my classmates that you can edit wikipedia. Probably shouldn't have done that...-- 18:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


You may go ahead. Regards. --Bhadani (talk) 17:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Khushab District[edit]

Well, thank you Special-T. I am grateful that you pointed out the page to my notice. I am on it now and would like to help clean it up. - Arun Reginald 22:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I understand that you have tried to contact other people in the WikiProject list, but would you be working on the page as well. If yes, then I have tried to include some grand chunk of information and managed to remove redundancies on the page. The most intriguing fact about the place is its Uranium and Plutonium enrichment plants which you can help me with. Another would be to include a brief history. As far as I know Alexander loved the land because of its lush meadows and vegetation. So! Are you up for it? - Arun Reginald 23:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

re User talk:Din&tony[edit]

This page was deleted three times this evening, and has now been WP:SALTED. If you find another page created by this/these user(s), please report it to WP:AIV with reference to this identity. Thanks for your work. LessHeard vanU 21:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


I don't think one can delete an article because people vandalize it. If you want to argue she's not Notable, afd would be the place. Per WP:BIO, if she is of borderline notability she herself can request deletion. DGG (talk) 21:19, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes I see, the history got rather hard to decipher. Feel free to delete my comment. If you want it semi-protected from anons, let me know. DGG (talk) 01:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Burnett[edit]

Hello – thanks for the message. I checked, and you've done everything correctly. There's a backlog at AFD, and we're a few days behind. Three to four days isn't so bad for an AFD backlog – last fall we had a backlog of over a week. An AFD isn't required to close after five days, but it needs to run at least five days, with a few exceptions for WP:SNOW and speedy deletes/keeps.

In fact, looking at this one, I'd probably close it as 'no consensus', which defaults to 'keep'. I haven't read the discussion thoroughly, but that's my first impression. Let me know if you need more help or have questions. Thanks! - KrakatoaKatie 19:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

RE: Master of Innovation and Entrepreneurship[edit]

Thanks for your input. I have rewritten most of the article, to make it more neutral. Feedback welcome! Chr 00:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Atlanta 'church advertisement'=[edit]

I'm not a member of 'Northpoint' but I've certainly heard of them. I find it fallacious to include 'ads' for the Salvation Army but not mention other groups.Ryoung122 11:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

someone's copyright/spam beef[edit]

This user was mentioned in a Webmaster World discussion regarding content that was illegally copied to wikipedia without proper attribution. Postings made it appear that this user was attempting to prevent the owner of copyrighted information from being properly attributed for his/her work (see )

  • Just calling the user out for his spamming, actually. - Special-T 02:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


I disagree that my edit you undid on Trombone is original research. It is in fact information all professional trombonists have been taught, it is factual, and although it may not appear as a citable piece of writing (It may, but I am not aware of it) it's something any trombonist can verify as accurate. I'm curious as to your rationale. 21:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

anon IP adding country names[edit]

Hi – I came across this anon IP's contributions today, and saw that you warned him at the end of September to stop it. He didn't, and I've given him a level 3 warning. I added links to the appropriate pages. Why on earth someone wants to change 'New York City Council' to 'New York City Council, USA' is beyond me. He's done it to hundreds of articles, probably for WP:POINT, and I've spent a lot of time reverting him today.

At any rate, I'll keep an eye on him. If you see him do it again after today, he should get the final warning. After that, it's a block for disruption. Thanks – KrakatoaKatie 19:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

(sorry about the duplicate sections - I got the "Wikipedia is experiencing technical difficulties!" message. Why is that message so cheerful?)
I agree, and I'm still working at reverting him, although I think I've got 95% of it reverted/removed now. He must be using Special:RandomJackson State Community College, then Staylittle? What's the connection? And "University of Oklahoma Sooners, USA" ? Not.
I'm settling in for a nice long admin weekend here since my husband and kids are either gone or working, so I'll watch him tonight. WHOIS returns an ISP for businesses (not individuals, see here) in Canberra, and he claims he has multiple user accounts and IP addresses, which may or may not be true, of course. We'll see. ;-) - KrakatoaKatie 20:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
And I just blocked him. On my talk page, he clearly stated he's not here to write but to disrupt by adding useless non-linked country names. (Why add it non-linked if you're trying to "write for those struggling with English in 'lesser' countries"? If they can't click on 'Colorado', how could they know what 'USA' means?) Oh, well. Chalk up another guy who uses beans for something besides chili. KrakatoaKatie 00:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


I did not edit the clarinet page, I've never been on it before.[edit]

Please see latest post at User_talk: I hope this person gets blocked sooner rather than later. Greg L (my talk) 21:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

List of jazz musicians[edit]

There are 1000s of jazz musician articles on wikipedia. That article is for the most historically important ones. It's an experiment to see whether or not consensus on notability can be reached, as with List of hip hop albums. I took out the red people for that reason.Cosprings (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:Peter Guidi[edit]

It's no problem. The article was a virtual copy of that website. (I looked before I deleted) I could have choosed either copyvio or empty as the deletion, but chose empty. --Michael Greiner 02:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Birgit Nilsson - Thanks![edit]

Just a note to say thanks for the great copy-edit job you're doing on Birgit Nilsson. Much appreciated! Whenever I used to pass by that article, I'd sigh but couldn't quite work up the energy to fix it.;-). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it was quite a hodgepodge of bad grammar, bad syntax, links to random nouns, and breathless fancruft anecdotes. Still needs work, but I'm glad I could help. - Special-T (talk) 16:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Stop removing the link in recipe[edit]

Look, you have no right to make the decision as to remove my link and leave 5 other links up on the recipes page. If you intend on removing my link, you must remove the other links. The link I posted is relevent to the topic and is strictly vegetarian recipes, unlike the others, WHICH VEGETARIANS FIND USEFUL, so stop removing it. Gtg228r (talk) 04:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I have every right to do that. Read up on what Wikipedia is about. And read the very valid rationales on your talk page and the Recipe talk page for removing that link. Just because there are other possibly inappropriate links on there doesn't make yours right, or useful, or appropriate. - Special-T (talk) 04:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Then why don't you remove the other so called 'inappropriate' links? I am not sure why you feel the need to remove the link I posted, and keep the others on there... Do you have an explanation for that? -sorry I am new to this wiki stuff- Gtg228r (talk) 05:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Caps in Titles[edit]

Hello Special-T: If you check any book in any library, chapter and section headings are generally always capitalized, at least for books printed in the English language. I just went through my own library to make sure, including books going back to the early 20th century. If the Wikipedia manual of style states otherwise, then that manual is incorrect on this point, and needs to be amended by whatever mechanism exists in the Wikipedia community to initiate such changes. Thank you.PJtP (talk) 19:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Day of Spring![edit]

Block disparity[edit]

The IP was blocked for a short period because it belongs to a wireless device. Those usually switch IP addresses every time the device accesses the internet, and the block was a bit long for that type of device, the address had a previous block of only one hour. If you think something more of it, try bringing it up at either WP:SSP or WP:AN. -MBK004 03:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Opera references[edit]

Hi. i see you've been removing references to some Italian books relating to Italian opera. Any particular reason? I reverted one of them but then I found another and i thought I should ask you why you've decided to do this. Best. --Kleinzach (talk) 13:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

One IP user was merely adding these books - all in Italian, all from the same publisher - to lots of articles. They were not added as references to any edits he/she had made (although they were sometimes listed under a "references" header, sometimes not), indeed no other content was ever added. This struck me as being promotional spam. Since, in addition, none of these books is in English, I thought they didn't meet standards for inclusion. If I'm wrong about this, feel free to restore them. - Special-T (talk) 14:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
We do use foreign references on the Opera Project, in fact we often have to in order to establish notability etc. The two particular references I saw were copied from the Italian wiki. I can't see any evidence they were spam, but if you notice anything strange please let us know, otherwise I'll assume they are bona fide. Best --Kleinzach (talk) 22:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the vandal revert on my userpage. κaτaʟavenoTC 01:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


Sorry, I'm sometimes in a rush and forget to place any edit summaries. I'll keep that in mind from now on, mate. Thanks, and have a good one.

Picc trumpet[edit]

Hi - thanks for your vigilance on the piccolo trumpet article. In fact, it should in the end have gone back to Bb as this is all that history records. Hope this makes sense to you: if not please yell. Cheers Nomorenonotnever (talk) 21:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

erm. Yes. In fact: you right, me wrong! (See private email). Sorry and thanks. I'm changing the article now. I feel a bit {DOH!} about this, to be honest ... :) Nomorenonotnever (talk) 07:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, and thanks! :) Nomorenonotnever (talk) 14:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of cover versions of Robert Johnson songs[edit]

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Re: My bad - thanks for fixing it[edit]

Hi. I've replied at my talk page. Olaf Davis | Talk 12:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Please warn vandals[edit] made a crapload of changes on 4 August that modified population numbers of cities (and other tidbits) in obvious vandalism that you reverted (thanks!). Yet the IP's talk page was blank, so I added l1-l2-l3-l4 warnings to it in chronological order. If you could, please add warnings to the talk pages when these happen, so others can escalate the issue if it continues from the same IP. We non-admin types can't get an IP tempblocked without giving ample warning first.  :) Todd Vierling (talk) 21:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed! I generally do warn vandals without reservation and report them to AIV when appropriate - I don't recall why I didn't do it in that case. - Special-T (talk) 22:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi Special-T,

I seem to have annoyed you by changing the spelling of a couple of words in the trombone article; however, I'd like to point out that it was not, as you might have thought, simply a matter of changing American spelling to British spelling because I prefer British spelling. I realise though that my summary, "Fixed a couple of typos", was misleading and probably contributed to the misunderstanding.

While reading the article in question, I noticed that it contained the words "characterized" and "characterises". To me, an article written in a mixture of American and British spellings looks unprofessional; one containing different spellings of what is essentially the same word looks ridiculous.

Closer inspection revealed that the article contained just one other word, "favor", spelt in an American (i.e. non-British) way and at least two other words, "practised" and "popularised", spelt in a British (i.e. non-American) way. Since converting the article to British spelling required fewer changes than converting it to American spelling would have (and since my American spelling is unreliable), I decided to make the changes to which you objected.

How should we resolve the problem then? If you no longer object, I'll make the changes again. If you can think of something better though, let's do it instead.The Stickler (talk) 15:53, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I've made the changes again, but this time I've tried to make the edit summary more accurately reflect what I've done. Thanks for keeping me honest.The Stickler (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Using your own works as a reference[edit]

Regarding Reeds (instrument), I was unaware of this. Thanks for pointing it out. You may remove citation, if you like. Henrydoktorski (talk) 08:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


Sure thing - I'm hoping we can continue to improve the refs and flesh it out some more. My expectation, though, is that the more press she gets, the more the crazies will be trolling. But, I've been there before in the last couple of years, to say the least, and if there are enough of us, we can keep it under control. Cheers Tvoz/talk 04:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


I would be grateful if you would add other names to the Flautists section od Template:Western concert flutes, please add as many as you feel are notable, the equivalent template for Clarinets has 20 names. -- Flutefluteflute Talk Contributions 16:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Star (Book)[edit]

I agree that the article you nominated was pretty awful--it looks like it was written by a child who had read the book, actually. However, it does appear that there's a solid, notable, book behind what mess was there, and I've pretty much rewritten the article. Please swing by the article, and feel free to withdraw the AfD if you think the article as it stands now meets the WP:HEY standard. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 22:08, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I came here to ask you to close the Afd too, but Jclemens beat me too it. Please consider closing this Afd. Thank you. Ikip (talk) 22:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Great - I'm glad it got brought "up to spec". Good work. - Special-T (talk) 11:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Help deleting categories[edit]

Sure I'd be glad to help. Is there a "master" category that all of these are under? It looks like the Road accidents one you mentioned has a master category of. If you feel like it's just a matter of categories that have no chance to be more than minimally populated, I'd nominate some of the cats with that basis. It's a very established master category (and it's master is even more established and large), but underpopulation is definitely a basis you can use. Here is the CfD procedure. Obviously you want to follow the delete path. Let me know what else you need. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 04:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Sax on the Web[edit]

If someone removed that tag without explaining, then, yes, reverting/undoing that edit was correct. Thanks for telling me :)-- fetchcomms 19:29, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Recent link additions to jazz articles[edit]

See Talk:American_Jazz_Museum for a follow-up note to the links that were added and then removed from various articles. I had reverted their link addition to that article; they've just reverted it back on and I've removed it again. I'd prefer if they read and acted on the various policy documents referenced in our messages on their Talk page. AllyD (talk) 18:35, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Smooth Jazz[edit]

I think most of that content was added recently by an anon- I'm not sure most of it is worth preserving in any form. Zazaban (talk) 21:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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I have the matter of removing sourced information on a notice board, although I would be really interested in knowing how you can state "some of the material is cited and might be relevant, but put it in context somewhere below, and state it clearly and grammatically"

All of the material is cited, in the right place, and is clearly stated. So it would be great if you could provide examples, and why you removed the information for an unreferenced statement. It is interesting that RepublicanJacobite never reverted another edit again, as he/she would be in contention with the 3rd revert rule, but you show up shortly after to do the same thing. Considering you both edit the same type of pages from time to time. Coincidence maybe.... although I would assume most editors wouldn't remove cited material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

About Hungary[edit]

"You need to maintain a neutral point of view; many of your edits seem like attempts to publicize the importance of Hungary in all areas of history" Perhabs medieval Hungary had bigger political weight and bigger military power than the little medieval England. Keep it in your mind —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stubes99 (talkcontribs) 15:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps, yes. But that's not sufficient to add these claims as fact to an encyclopedia. And calling it "little medieval England" certainly adds weight to my claim that you are here to push an agenda. - Special-T (talk) 16:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Andras Hess[edit]

Only Germany And Italy had priting presses before 1472. And one workd in Paris. No other countries had printing press in 1472-73. That's why Hess's priting press was an unicum.

So it was unique except for all those other printing presses. Which, by definition, means it was not unique. - Special-T (talk) 16:06, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Renaaissance article[edit]

The renaissance was unknown in Russia, some Italian architects went to Moscow to biuld some buildings. Under Ivan III, thew united Russia had only 5-6 million population, therefore Russia wasn't in the top 5 most populous European country, and it was a peripheric and backward country. There wasn't renaissance arts,r. style poetry or other r. literature, r. paintings,r. philosophy or humanists, r. castles, r. clothes, r. style music, and r. lifestyle. The section of Russia is misleading in the article. These buildings existed only in Moscow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stubes99 (talkcontribs) 15:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Again - YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY REFERENCES FOR YOUR CLAIMS. Also, please learn to sign your posts. - Special-T (talk) 15:53, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Again, Russia is an Orthodox country, and it is not part of the Western World. Please show me a Russian r. style poetry or other r. literature, r. paintings,r. philosophy or humanists, r. castles, r. clothes, r. style music.

You can't.

And there are many moderators in wikipedia, they are not important people. But, there are some who had right to delete your moderator status rights in wikipedia. Don't forget it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stubes99 (talkcontribs) 16:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Stamford Bridge[edit]

Why do you keep changing the numbers of troops, the English army was smaller in size to that of the Norwegian army with 7,000 men and 10.000 to 15.000 Norwegian men landed with 300 boats, it's a well known fact that the Norwegian army was all but destroyed and only 24 ships returned it's nonsense putting them English casualties on there and insulting, the Norwegians were caught completely by surprise, and saying they lost 7000 men would mean that historically speaking would mean that the English army was destroyed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

You have made several changes to articles without any reference to back them up. You have also posted a run-on POV rant on Talk:Grenadier Guards that shows that you have an agenda to push regardless of the rules and policies here. I have no idea what happened at the Battle of Stamford Bridge, I've never even heard of it. I only know that you've been changing the numbers without explanation or references, so those edits need to be reverted per policy. So stop making personal attacks on my talk page, and read up on what this project is about, particularly WP:NOT. Also, please learn to sign your posts. - Special-T (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Reference? I need not show you look for your self type in battle of Stamford bridge on google almost every site tells you of how much of a decisive victory it is, I'm sick and tired of people editing articles about English military history on wikipedia, it's clearly bias a article of a countries victory over the English/British it's as plain as that but WHEN it's an article about an English victory over another country people get unfairly technical raise casualties of the English army claim it to be Strategically or tactically indecisive or try to say that the British army was mainly of other ethnicities or only one by man power making my countries military history on wikipedia look weak or reliable other countries which is nonsense. Now I am not personally attacking you but I stumbled upon the Stamford bridge article it was once again changed to a source unreliable I looked on view edit history and it took me to you that changed and it's diabolical, why should I need a reference to it when you haven't got one and all the edits of the army size and casualties before me are the same as my claims. D.Coshall —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:23, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Hungarian and Turbo-props[edit]

The Hungarians were working on a twin engine attack aircraft starting in 1940 that used crude turbo-props. The story was told in an issue of Air International. It would take a day and forever for me to plow through my back issues of AI I will post a scan of that page. But notice I did not revert your deletion of the Hungarian inventions. I just wanted you to know it was not vandalism on that editors part. It was not a Hungarian version of the Russians with the USSR claiming to have invented anything and everything. There is truth to that claim. Jack - --Jackehammond (talk) 02:27, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I appreciate it. I nearly got my head taken off on the Bell P-39 Airacobra page when I posted some information about the unsatisfactory performance of the P-39 delivered to the RAF in England (see that talk page) and the one they saw test in the US by Bell and what Bell claimed. I discovered really fast that some pages are guarded and in aviation some aircraft are like a beautiful woman with a lot of character flaws - ie some can not see anything but the beauty (and the P-39 was a beautiful aircraft). I don't believe in edit wars. When my edits were reverted I let it go. Even though I had the references. Now back to the subject. When I one day or one year find that article on the WW2 Hungarian attack aircraft project that used turbo-props, I will scan it and post it in the talk section on turbo-props and drop you a note. If you think the article is legit you can post a small paragraph or not.
A Small Favor (ie you are running now I think<GRIN>). I just finished re-writing the first part of the Curtiss SO3C Seamew. To wit, I am very, very good at getting information with references. I am very, very bad at times with grammar and syntax. If you have the time could you look at that page and do a little word smithing. Thanks. Jack Jackehammond (talk) 04:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your editing. PERFECT! Thanks. Jack Jackehammond (talk) 02:54, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Disruptive Editing[edit]

Your edits are the ones causing the disruption. Please cease this harassment at once. You are violating Wikipedia's guidelines and very purpose for existing. Don't threaten me saying I may be banned from making edits when YOUR EDITS are causing the disruption. Any future acts of vandalism on your part WILL be reverted! Please cease vandalizing the talk pages, trolling Wikipedia, and trolling my Wikipedia talk page immediately. --Þorstejnn (talk) 04:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm leaving this here just to document how completely off-base this editor is. - Special-T (talk) 15:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Trombone slide[edit]

Hi, being a n00b to the world of the 'bone, I left those nomenclature edits alone (which also showed up in leadpipe and sackbut); far as I knew, it could have been a non-US variant. I just call that thing "the slide" if I talk about it at all. Not sure the edits rose to the level of vandalism, but that's your call. Be well, __ Just plain Bill (talk) 14:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, I just reverted it at leadpipe. My mistake-- Sackbut did not get this change. Cheers, __ Just plain Bill (talk) 20:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Grey Gardens[edit]

You're welcome, and I completely agree in this instance. Most other articles are not that detailed, and I would suggest that section, if it exists at all, should be limited to entire parodies or homages, not an offhand reference on a sitcom. Cheers, SteelIronTalk 07:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Trumpet -article, external links[edit]

Hi! Just wanted to ask why you removed the Trumpet Exercise Database -link from the "Trumpet" -article? It was there from March to December 2010, and then someone removed it, calling it a dead link. The link is not dead so I put it back there but now it's is removed again, this time no reason told. If the site doesn't meet your quality standards, why didn't you remove it in the first place but let it be there for 10 months? Comparing it to the other trumpet exercise -related links, it feels illogical to remove this one. -Janne — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mus1k (talkcontribs) 19:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


FYI, there was also some weirdness at Talk:Cor anglais that I thought might be coming from Template:WikiProject Musical Instruments. Seems to be cleared up now, and Talk:Cornet is looking OK from where I sit. Thanks for what you do here! __ Just plain Bill (talk) 18:49, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Editing, etc.[edit]

I am a bit perplexed as to what gets accepted on Wikipedia and what does not at this point. I can site numerous articles which go far beyond the 'self promotion' catagory outlined by Wikipedia with a great deal less editing and links/references that I have provided. These pages were obviously done by the person themselves (content would not have come from anyone else) whether that person had paid or coersed someone into doing the page for them through another computer/server. I do not have a manager that promotes me and I do not add content under false pretenses, I am a known musical artist and you have 'lesser thans' on Wikipedia already (this is no 'pot shot', this is truth). I guess the 'edit' which really confused me is taking my name off the list of Summit Records recording artists and deleting the Jazz Orchestra of the Delta from there (THAT page had been approved and never edited from what I can see). There is no more or less validity to having the JOD on that list than anyone else there...fact is, the CD is with Summit and it is linked to them/me. Jcooper1 (talk) 18:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Editing, etc.[edit]

First, I am a fan of Wikipedia so don't get me wrong on all this. I tell my students to use it and I use (with crosschecking of course).

Second, I have done work for books and publishers (as an academic, writing prose) so I do know what and how all this works (mostly am a composer). Wikipedia sits in an 'ongoing/live stream' which makes it unique, rather than situations like Websters or even New Groves Dictionary.

Yes, I am going to add the listing to the Summit entry because there is nothing non-factual or in conflict with that page. In fact, I was surprised I (or my group) am not there in the first place, it really should be. I do not know who from Summit is doing that editing (and it is coming from Summit, I assure you). I could also argue conversely that there are far too many MORE prominent artists who have not materialized as Wikipedia entries. Who is to make their pages? Them? Thier management? Someone they pay or get a favor from? You see my own entries; I have about enough time for a few little nuggets to Manny Albam's page (oops...old teacher of mine...hmmm, possible conflict). I am very unsure that 100% of the entries and edits approved are from a benevolent source with no self-interest.

Now with that said, I do understand your job and what is supposed to happen. You guys as Wiki editors go by written rules and that is totally understandable. You also have millions of entries to deal with and that is like getting a drink of water from a fire hose. But, the facts are that you have entries from artists' management (or the artist) that have been there for a while now with no flags and that have been approved; some with far more self promotion and less referenced than what I have contributed. It is even outlined in the hidden text edits that I have checked into (behind the edit 'wall')...I know the person and I know the management in some cases. That is the truth and to not acknowledge the inherent "holes to be plugged" (where the information comes from and the intention) in Wikipedia is intellectually disingenuous in this case.

In closing, please check into what I have added a bit more, especially if it has been crossed referenced with citations. I do understand the idea of self-interest here and trying to not allow every grandmother to add somethisg about thier grandkids latest recital, but self-interested artists who do a have a legitimate 'stake' in what is going can be found in many corners of Wikipedia (the evidence is easily found).

Thanks for writing back and taking the time, I do appreciate it. (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Editing, etc. (last for now)[edit]

Yes, it was me. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to clarify some points and actually reading my blah blah blah.

We can play "who is on first" all day to be honest. Your points are well made in a perfect world and I DO try to stay in guidelines; but part fo that is what is actually DEMONSTRATED on the site. In a way you have made MY point about how Wikipedia is rather groundbreaking but it has a lot of stuff that is 'unchecked.' Yes, we are all editors and that is the basic principle of the site (that is a cool and unique concept). But, most people I know will start with Wikipedia (to find something) but absolutley cross check it...if the ionformation is wrong do they go back and edit Wikipedia at that point? My bet is no, they don't have the time. And, that is my point, and I think it is a valid one in this discussion. A lot of stuff will be there for a long time to come.

I understand your points and HAVE read the guidelines (several times now) but in the end what I am left with in posting/editing is 'run it up the flagpole' and then see if it stays in order to get 'notable' information out there.

Again, thanks for your time Jcooper1 (talk) 21:52, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Editing, etc. Kenton/trombone[edit]

Me again.

...this has nothing to do with an 'edit war.' I read the violations (2) of what you are asserting and do not see where the Kenton edit or the last trombone edit are in conflict. If you do not find them noteworthy or add to the overall relibilty of the link then so be it, that is your right as an approved, higher level editor of Wikipedia. But, don't site arbitrary rules to make your point when it is a disingenuous tact (at the least) you are following through on. I can read the rules just as well as anyone.

Let's go through the two edits together:

1. Doug Purviance (African-American trombonist in New York City) is in great gratitude to Stan Kenton for Doug getting hired on the Kenton orchestra during the 1970's. Doug is a prominent bass trombonist and has a massive list of credits on Broadway as well as touring with Kenton, Thad Jones/Mel Lewis and numerous other notable jazz 'stars.' He makes the case as an example of a highly successful, contemporary Black musician (who is on the Kenton sideman list below the article BTW), this is fact and this can be easily supported if you need that (again, he is already on the page...why would I have to? That would be redundant). My name WAS NOT mentioned and there is NO POSSIBLE link to me in that edit. Why remove it?

2. The last edit for the 'trombone' Wiki page was void of any association to me, I had removed any mention of the particular works. Both Pugh and Bonilla are recognized world class players in many genres/styles, they are unique in this respect and can do MANY things on the instrument that others can't. They are two prime examples of this furthering of the technique, flexiblity, and range of the instrument itself in contemporary trombone playing (you play trumpet I you know these players? Have you heard them?). There was NO link to me in the last edit. No one would gather that either Bonilla or Pugh would be directly related to any of my work or any other composer's work. There were only the words 'orchestra/solo/chamber' used in that edit with no specific works even given. Again, why remove this?

Bottom line is we are all NOT editors of the SAME CLOUT (your point yesterday does not really hold water well). I am not authorized to go in and police Wikipedia like you are, you have more clout in this. Again, I am not in an edit war by any means, I don't have the time for that and it would be plain stupid. If you want to not read what I have ACTUALLY written and then remove my prose that might cross your line based on your opinion of me then I guess I am stuck. Now, if you actually want to read the edit and then remove then fine (the last guy removed the Cole Porter edit based on platinum selling be it even if the CD I cited has numerous reviews from the US and overseas, about 15, that were all very good and do put Porter's music that much further into the future). If you want to re-inforce principles and rules you are trying to uphold then so be it but don't use rules that do not apply to my edits.

Thank you for your time, Jcooper1 (talk) 21:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Cole Porter[edit]

Thanks for your edit at Cole Porter. Should this sentence also be deleted?: In 2004 jazz and electronica producer Billy Paul Williams released an album named The Porter Project. I have no way of knowing if that is a significant album, so feel free to make an edit if you don't think it's worth mentioning in the article. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I found this amazing list: So I boldly deleted the ones that weren't on it and added a few that have their own article in WP. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


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