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Administrators' newsletter – December 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).

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Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
  • A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
  • A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
  • A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
  • Wikipedia policy requires administrators to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.

Obituaries


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Template:Cool Air[edit]

Regarding this comment, please note that as demonstrated on the talk page, neither {{Cool Air}} or {{Media based on H. P. Lovecraft works}}} are being discussed at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 November 30#Template:H. P. Lovecraft and the outcome there would not have any bearing on this navbox or vice versa. I do however understand your confusion, due to a number of similarly named Lovecraft templates, and the fact the navbox creator also seems confused by this on the talk page. --woodensuperman 12:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the issue, the bottom line is that deletion would not be uncontroversial and speedy deletion is not appropriate. In my view, navigation templates should not be deleted while they are still in use on articles. Your claim is that the template can adequately be replaced with another. Doing that does not require deletion to proceed. If you can achieve that uncontroversially, then I'll be willing to delete the template as unused. SpinningSpark 12:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
I already did that, but the navbox's creator added the template back (example). Both navboxes are currently present on each article. The problem with not speedy deleting a navbox while it is still in use is that you have a "chicken and egg" situation. "Unused" is not a required condition for a navbox to meet WP:CSD#T3. --woodensuperman 12:27, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Take it to TFD. SpinningSpark 12:32, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! L293D ( • ) 03:27, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Historical units[edit]

You said "The units used in the source and the historical period should be stated first with the modern units in brackets, not converted to something else to feed into a conversion template."

Where is this explained in wikistyle or any other guide? Ninjalectual (talk) 03:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

For page watchers, the article in question is Transatlantic telegraph cable. Next time, please link the article you are discussing. It is not always obvious to busy editors. SpinningSpark 09:28, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
The guideline is at MOS:CONVERSIONS. It is fairly obvious that a small degree of WP:OR goes into a conversion. For instance, if the source contains the figure of 200 nautical miles, we must decide whether to show the conversion as 400 km, 370 km, or 371 km. To pick the right one, we must make a decision on the degree of precision the source was using. They may have rounded from 190 nmi, 150 nmi, 199 nmi, or even 200.1 nmi. In many cases you just don't know and would be guessing. By putting the km conversion first and converting back to 200 nmi in brackets, you may be misleading the reader over the precision of the figure, or even completely distorting it. WP:STYLEVAR also comes into this, and that guideline is repeated at the end of MOS:CONVERSIONS. There are times when converting everything to metric in an article is appropriate. This was not one of them. SpinningSpark 09:28, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Suwayfah[edit]

With regards to your reversion of my redirect: the target does mention Suwayfah. As to whether or not Suwayfah is a part of Dibba Al-Fujairah: if you Google Suwayfah or check Google maps for the area, you get a bunch of hotels, all of which have addresses in Dibba Al-Fujairah or talk about being in Dibba on their websites. Radisson Blu's resort explicitly uses the word Suwayfah on its Google result, yet on its website under location states it is within Dibba, and has an address in Dibba. This job-hunting site shows jobs in Suwayfah, Dibba. Google maps shows the boundaries of Dibba Al-Fujairah inclusive of the area Suwayfah maps within. Per Suwayfah at GEOnet Names Server, Suwayfah is a locality, not a legally recognized separate entity. All in all, that's a pretty reasonable indication that Suwayfah is the name of an area or neighborhood within DAF. Since there aren't any substantial in-depth sources discussing Suwayfah, per WP:GEOLAND it was reasonable to redirect one to the other. ♠PMC(talk) 22:42, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I've self-reverted. SpinningSpark 00:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Cheers :) ♠PMC(talk) 00:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for William Montgomerie[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 21 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Montgomerie, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that William Montgomerie wished that the men who destroyed the Singapore Stone had been more superstitious? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Montgomerie. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, William Montgomerie), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:03, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

@Yoninah: What exactly is your objection to the referencing style, and how does that infringe DYK rules? SpinningSpark 10:04, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Distributed element circuit copyedit[edit]


Administrators' newsletter – January 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Guideline and policy news

  1. G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
  2. R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
  3. G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

Technical news

  • Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
  1. At least 8 characters in length
  2. Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
  3. Different from their username
User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
  • Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
  • {{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
  • Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

CS Alert (1890)[edit]

Do you have access to Haigh which you use as the principal reference in the article? Miramar which is usually a RS for ships gives a continuing history for the ship after 1915 with it finally being wrecked as the Norham in 1932. Furthermore it gives the renaming year as 1901 and Graces guide gives it as 1894. I've loath to change anything as Haigh might well be correct Lyndaship (talk) 13:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean by "do I have access to Haigh"? Are you implying I am citing a source I haven't read? I paid real money to get it on interlibrary loan. SpinningSpark 13:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Oh I didn't mean it in an accusatory fashion, you might have only had some google book sections to look at so the later history of the ship might not be included. If that was the case Miramar's info could well be correct. Lyndaship (talk) 13:48, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Haigh doesn't give any later history. He says categorically that the ship was scrapped, but then, he is only interested in submarine cables. Maybe both are true—the ship was scrapped as a cable ship and its cable gear transferred to another ship (as Haigh said), but the hulk was sold on and used elsewhere. SpinningSpark 16:24, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Thats what I suspected. Haigh's interest would end when Alert ceased to be a cable ship. Also its possible that when he saw sold in some record he synthed that to sold to be scrapped. Further checking on the plimsoll line site (which has online copies of some Lloyds registers) confirms Norham's details as to builder, launch and previous and subsequent names corresponding to Miramars record (with the strange exception of Alert being missing!). Norham is listed on the List of shipwrecks in 1932 here on wiki. I feel safe adding this detail now. First year of name I'll stick with Haigh - Miramar must be wrong, and Graces fails in light of Haigh as a RS Lyndaship (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Haigh doesn't give the year of rename. What the article currently says is the GPO took over the ship in 1890. The rename may, or may not, have been immediate. I think you're probably safe in adding that also. SpinningSpark 17:03, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
@Lyndaship: Are you intending to do anything with this? I'm about to nominate it for DYK, it would be helpful if it was done before it gets reviewed. SpinningSpark 12:20, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Done my best. Its possible one of the merchant ship specialists at WP:SHIPS can flesh it out some more - I don't have access to the Times reports of the casualty and it is possible when she was re-engined the paddle wheels were removed and she became a conventional twin screw. I suspect she was PS until then and MV thereafter Lyndaship (talk) 13:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
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Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Consensus needed[edit]

I don't know if it is an appropriate way, but as you have worked on the dissipation factor and dielectric loss pages that I find well written (in particular I like the introduction of the reactive power concept), I will like your opinion and, if possible, from other selected contributors, regarding the appropriate introduction of the Q factor page, see the last two threads in the associated talk page: Talk:Q_factor#A_suggested_new_order_for_the_presentation_and_inappropriate_illustration_picture and talk:Q factor#A_proposed_“modern”_introduction_to_Quality_Factors. Henri BONDAR (talk) 19:50, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 20 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the surgeon Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird invented a dilator for use in tracheotomies? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cuthbert Hilton Golding-Bird), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)