User talk:Spleodrach

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Amendments to the Constitution[edit]

As we're both in the process of periodic edits to the pages on amendments to the constitution, I thought I'd summarise the changes I'm making:

  • avoiding the duplication in the opening of referring to the Amendment and a sentence or two later referring to it as having been effected by a particular Act. The Ninth Amendment is only a shorthand for the Ninth Amendment of the Constitution Act 1984, and it's better I think to have the more succinct opening, even if it departs from the general rule that the first sentence should include the page title in bold.
  • removing the comma from pre-2005 Acts. For consistency, and although Wikipedia need not follow statute as a style guide, according to s.14(3) of the Interpretation Act 2005, the comma isn't necessary before citing the year.
  • adding results tables, the most obvious useful addition, and you've been quite helpful with those too to date.
  • Oireachtas debates: each amendment has to be introduced, and pass both houses. In a non-contentious one, such as the Ninth, I'd only include its introduction by such-and-such a minister, passes final stage in Dáil, passes final stage in Seanad. If there are votes at other stages, probably include them too. Committee Stage amendments, and here there's some judgment questions, if they are notable.
  • using quote frame for the amendment text, so that it properly stands apart from the rest of the article.

I think that's about it. Just to avoid any conflicts! -Iveagh Gardens (talk) 11:51, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to concentrate on adding infoboxes for the result, and adding the constituency details result. Spleodrach (talk) 18:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Grand, you seem to have a knack with the results tables! —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 13:17, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
To avoid duplication with the information in the infobox, do you think there's a benefit to including only the constituency results table in the ==Results== section? The overall national results will be in the final row in any case. —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 12:52, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
No, I don't agree, I think there should be both, e.g. see United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016. Spleodrach (talk) 13:45, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough! —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 10:24, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

I'd like to compliment you first on your work assing some of the results tables for amendments. I've tried to keep to the same style, with the addition of a Change for repeated referendums. Two points though. You've removed the Deviation column I'd added. Do you not think it provides useful context, to see at a glance how much constituencies deviated, whether a Donegal or a Dublin Bay South? Second, you've left out the Spoilt votes in the constituency results. I know what matters is the votes in favour and against. But given some polls, like 1937 or the abortion referendums in 1992, had quite high spoilt votes, do you not think the column is noteworthy? —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 18:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, the columns in the table I based on the Brexit referendum. So trying to keep a standard across wikipedia. I think that adding extra columns like spoilt votes and deviation just add clutter, but no useful info. For me, the simpler the better. Change is useful for the same question. Spleodrach (talk) 14:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Whatever about Deviation, which I'll concede is an innovation on my part, Spoilt or Invalid votes are listed elsewhere on Wikipedia, say for Dutch European Constitution referendum, 2005 or French European Constitution referendum, 2005, so there's no standard across the project. I do think it's useful to note, given the referendums with reasonably high spoilt votes, such as those I referenced. In 1937, the spoilt votes outnumber the difference between Yes and No in some constituencies. Others that were held on the same date as elections had similarly high invalid votes, say Seventeenth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland for example. —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 15:24, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
The spoilt votes are recorded in the overall totals in the national summary result. I think this is sufficient. I see no valid reason to break them down by constituency. Spleodrach (talk) 15:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Ard Fheiseanna[edit]

Fine Gael does have them: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]Iveagh Gardens (talk) 13:28, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

I have reverted myself. [7]. Spleodrach (talk) 13:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Joan Freeman (Irish psychologist)[edit]

Please see my response on the article talk page, engage in discussion and stop edit warring to keep information that potentially violates WP:BLP guidelines. SWL36 (talk) 23:22, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't engage with SPAs or Socks. Spleodrach (talk) 11:57, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers, Wikipedia:Communication is required, Wikipedia:Edit warring. GMGtalk 15:21, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
WP:DOSPAGWYA. Spleodrach (talk) 11:42, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

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Irexit Freedom Party[edit]

Please leave this name, the party spokesman and members refer to it with this name.

No! Spleodrach (talk) 14:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


Hello. Assist content for Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you. (talk) 12:07, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

No, thanks. Spleodrach (talk) 12:10, 22 September 2018 (UTC)