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2012-13 EPL[edit]

hello Spudgfsh I want to make it better table Premier Leagie season 2012 2013 (talk) 17:50, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest you use the sandbox facility to create the table as a whole and then when it is correct make the updateSpudgfsh (talk) 17:52, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Okey Spudgfsh (talk) 17:55, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

UserJggjghjg765675 Hello Spudgfsh blackburn rouvas relegated from premier league to championship 2012 2013 Jggjghjg765675 (talk) 17:33, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

UserJggjghjg765675 Hello Spidgfsh well Wigan Athletic as they beat blackburn rouvas and Chelsea beat Blackburn fall Wigan Athletic will beat Blackburn Rovers Jggjghjg765675 (talk) 17:47, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

UserJggjghjg765675 Hi Spudgfsh but if you do not lose points Bolton i QPR Jggjghjg765675 (talk) 17:55, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm curious...[edit]

What did this do? --Dweller (talk) 14:11, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

background colours--Spudgfsh (talk) 15:20, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
OIC. Thanks. --Dweller (talk) 17:54, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Why did you revert my contribution to Premier League 2013/14?[edit]

I just thought seeing as it was gonna be put there anyway why is it not allowed now?

"Spent 30 min of my life doing something just for someone to delete it in 5 seconds :/"

What is the point of having all of the sections for the statistics for next season when they will provide no useful information for another two months. If you must place them in then you will have to comment them out until later on.Spudgfsh (talk) 20:40, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Warning[edit]

Thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia. I do not understand why you still think that my edits are not constructive after my explanation in the Talk page of Carl Jenkinson. I have standardized the stats table according to the template. It is not encouraged to cite too much when only one reference can do the job, so why do you think we have to cite every season's stats? All that I am trying to do is just making the table more readable for the readers and that takes effort and time. Why do you think that deserve a "warning"? --Miunouta (talk) 21:45, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion[edit]

WP:PROD is for deletions that can reasonably be expected to be noncontroversial. "PROD must only be used if no opposition is to be expected." Your recent rash of prods don't fit. There is no sign of a consensus at the existing AfD that all attendance charts should be deleted. In fact most editors seem to have expressed the opinion that single-sports attendance charts can be encyclopedic. Please take this as my standing objection to your use of PROD for any further deletions you may seek in this area, and use AfD instead. Thank you. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:47, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

PROD removal[edit]

Interesting to see your removal of this PROD - what do you mean "To delete this requires AfD"? And what do you mean "To delete this requires [...] informing Wikipedia:WikiProject Football"? FYI, it has been listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Nominations for deletion and page moves for NINE days - and informing a WikiProject of a proposed deletion has NEVER been a requirement. GiantSnowman 13:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I felt it required a fuller discussion before it was deleted. The match was a non-league team away at the FA Cup runners up from the previous season which would make it notable. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 13:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Newcastle United F.C. 0–1 Crystal Palace F.C. (1907) for deletion[edit]

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Your submission at AfC Joshua Murphy was accepted[edit]

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Hi, please be careful with reflinks - it's prone to put junk into the ref. For example, the |author= parameter in this edit. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Same again, with this edit. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I was paying more attention. It just didn't register. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 20:34, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Euro Elections 2014[edit]

Indeed, I mixed up 2013-2014 with 2012-2013 in this edit. Thanks for the remark! Rubiscube (talk) 18:37, 27 October 2013 (UTC)



I noticed that when you edited 2013–14 Norwich City F.C. season you used an incorrect linebreak when adding goals. Instead of using <br/>, that does not work in some wikipedia you should instead use <br /> (or <br>). For more information please read WP:LINEBREAK (and note that they use <br /> in their example). Thank you. QED237 (talk) 01:23, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

There is nothing technically wrong with <br/> - the space is optional. Its absence has been known to cause trouble with some versions of Internet Explorer, but Wikipedia pages are put through HTML Tidy before being served, and this adds a space at that position yielding <br />, so IE browsers never actually see the unspaced form.
What is incorrect is </br> with the slash first instead of last. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
From WP:LINEBREAK: "Wikipedia currently renders HTML5 where <br> and <br /> are both valid. Normally HTML Tidy will convert a variety of versions of the break tag to <br /> including <br>, </br>, <br/> and <br.>. This conversion does not work in a number of MediaWiki interface pages and can cause invalid HTML and problems rendering the page. Other wikis may not have HTML Tidy enabled, thus exported pages using an incorrect break tags will result in invalid HTML."
Recently I saw the <br/> being remove with a link to a page saying it was wrong, I will see if I can find it. QED237 (talk) 15:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
WP:LINEBREAK has recently had a content dispute. There have been several discussions about exactly which variants are fine to leave alone, and which should be altered, on several different pages, sometimes simultaneously. Some of these were on user talk pages, so I don't know just how widespread the discussions have been, but see for example Wikipedia talk:WPCleaner#.3Cbr.3E tag, Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 117#Text colour coding breaking down after line breaks in infoboxes and Wikipedia talk:Line-break handling#Line breaks, October 2013. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:55, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the links, I were not aware of those discussions and I will read them when I have rested my eyes. Anyhow to me it seems better to use <br> or <br /> from the start, when editing an article instead of the others. QED237 (talk) 23:26, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
What I saw was a bot (I think), making edits according to error no.2 at Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/List of errors QED237 (talk) 22:36, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Next matchday scenarios[edit]

Hi. Thank you for participating in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Next matchday scenarios. I have proposed a conclusion that addresses your concern regarding reliable sources. Would appreciate a comment. Ivan Volodin (talk) 10:50, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

League tables in season articles[edit]

Hello. Noticed your addition of the new league table template thingy to 2013–14 Birmingham City F.C. season. Pity you removed the named reference for the original, which was used elsewhere in the article, but don't worry, the bot recovered it. Was wondering if there's any way of restricting the lines of boilerplate underneath to relevant stuff, such as abbreviations actually used in the table section, as-of date and reference?

But what really bothers me, is that the league table section replaced was up-to-date and accurate, according to its heading "as of the date of Birmingham's last game" (which was 21 Dec). The section transcluded, despite the boilerplate claiming "Updated to games played on 21 December 2013", isn't up-to-date and accurate as of that date: it includes some games played on that date, but certainly doesn't include Middlesbrough v Millwall. If the table is being updated piecemeal, but the as-of date is updated as soon as any games are added, it doesn't strike me as much of an improvement for the reader. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I made the bold assumption that the table included in the season article was correct (which is where I copied the info from). I'll correct it shortly. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 12:04, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I have not looked at the table in question but if the template is updated but not the article page it could have something to do with the cache of that page. More can be read at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 121#Purging pages when updating template. QED237 (talk) 15:19, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Cheers, the table was wrong on the season article when I started to create the new template. I spotted the purging thread while wondering why nothing was fixing the errors last night, I now edit my sandbox and keep doing preview. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 15:23, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Mohamed Salah[edit]

Dear Spudgfsh, Please read the text Mohamed Salah before you revert Edits (!!!) FC Basel won the Swiss Super League in 2012–13,[1] they were Swiss Cup Runner-up 2012–13.[2] and won the Uhren Cup 2013. Salah was awarded the CAF Most Promising African Talent of the Year in 2012 CAF Awards.[3] How many more refs do you need (???) Bye --Huligan0 (talk) 23:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Expand sect[edit]

I've just reverted your mindless tagging of the lists like List of British films of the 1950s. If you'd read the text at the top you should have realized that the section are not intended to be added too and they function merely as dab pages. If you've done this to other country film lists please self-revert. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:26, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Upgraded league table templates[edit]


Thanks for creating Template:2014–15 Premier League table/p and fixing the template.

There is a reason why I had not created the templates on my own in the past and I thought I should mention why, since you have been a bit involved in the past.

First of all there is consensus at WT:FOOTY to remove the years name it only "Premier League table" or "Current Premier League table" so we can use same template season after season without creating new one s every season. Just substitute the template on the pages it is used and then reset it with new teams. This can be read at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 84#Template:2013–14 X league table‎ or Template:Current X league table and this TfD. Already renamed template are for example Template:Current Fußball-Bundesliga table‎.

Secondly this templates use helper templates such as template:PL13 which is used and this template is maybe to be removed. The templates has had a lot of problems with editors not updating the helper template so that is why a new solution is considered. There has been a new solution presented to me at User talk:Qed237#League tables (by an other editor working hard with these templates) where helper template must not be updated. This can currently be seen at {{2014–15 Eredivisie table}} and Template:2014–15 Eredivisie table/layout. I am/was strongly considering implementing that when a few minor "issues" is solved.

Thirdly the template:fb cl team is supposed to be replaced by template:fb cl2 team by WT:FOOTY consensus and a TfD. This since a lot of uneccessary fb team templates should be removed. I have wikilinks to consensus somewhere if you need them.

Just letting you know so that you dont get surprised if the template gets a major overhauling or even gets deleted (via TfD). If you have any questions or thoughts that is very appreciated. For example do I need do go to WT:FOOTY (dont feels like it)? QED237 (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy with anything that makes it easier to update. once you have a solution you are happy with take it to WT:FOOTY to tell people about the change. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 21:19, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Okay great, we will keep on working and when I am satisfied go to WT:FOOTY. After that a lot of templates may be modified/created ahead of the upcoming season. QED237 (talk) 21:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Re: Premier League Golden Glove[edit]

Hi Spudgfsh! I was just wondering, what do you mean by "the other rows are in alphabetical order." Premier League Golden Boot (FL passed last month) and Premier League Manager of the Season (at least for countries) are sorted chronologically. Thoughts? —Bloom6132 (talk) 17:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Personally I have little opinion on the matter. I'm just tired of the edit war. If you must have an order that is important you need to discuss it, agree it and to document it. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 17:25, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm curious about this, as the table in the previous section (wins by country) does not follow the logic you propose. For me, it's either fix all of it, or leave it alone. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:30, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
My mistake. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 17:32, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
To me both sections should be as they was until some sort of consensus of the order is found. That is chronological for the first table and alhpabetical on the other (before bloom started changing). I dont know what consensus he is refering to as I fail to see one, it is just me and him arguing and no consensus. We have both provided article to support our order, but no consensus. QED237 (talk) 22:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Spudgfsh, congratulations on the GA. I have nominated it for DYK here. Any alternative hooks are welcome. Thanks, Matty.007 15:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Doctor Who Reliable Source[edit]

Can I source the Pirate Bay script torrents ha ha :-)

DYK for 2013–14 Norwich City F.C. season[edit]

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  1. ^ Schifferle, Michael (2013). "Season review: Switzerland". Eufa. Retrieved 10 June 2013. 
  2. ^ SFV (2013). "Telegramm Schweizer Cup Final". Schweizerischer Fussballverband. Retrieved 20 May 2013.  (German)
  3. ^ "Toure wins his second African Player of the Year Award - Football News - CAF". 2012-12-21. Retrieved 2014-01-23.