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Why?[edit]

Why do you erase my edition? アステール王子 (talk) 03:16, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Who says she's famous for being a purely female line ancestor of Queen Victoria? This is not a notable fact about her. Or do you have a source that says it is? Srnec (talk) 03:24, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, “famous“ was an inadequate expression, but she is a “purely“ female line ancestor of all of these big names, Queen Victoria, Wilhelm II, Edward VII, Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, last Queen consort Alexandra and last crown prince Alexei of Russian Empire, Victoria Eugenie, Queen consort of Spain, Ernest Louis of Hesse and by Rhine. I think this is very important fact about hirtory and her. アステール王子 (talk) 04:01, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

But what you think is an important fact is not necessarily what Wikipedia presents as an important fact. Why is lineal descent in the female line of any significance at all? Do any authors say it is? Does any author make the Garsenda–Victoria connection? We need reliable sources, not your own research. —Srnec (talk) 05:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

OK.I understood. Sorry. アステール王子 (talk) 03:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018[edit]

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Carloman of bavaria[edit]

Hey mate,

I replied to your comment on the talk page of “Carloman of Bavaria”. Would like to get your thoughts on it. Thanks PrinceofFrancia (talk) 02:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Khalfun was least likely Berber[edit]

"Kalfün (Khalfun) was probably of Berber stock", please do research on the Berber role in Sicily.

The Arab dynasty depended on the Berbers heavily and dealt directly with Berber Chiefs & they kept them scattered in frontier towns to avoid revolts, the Berbers in Sicily were Muslim & in alliance with the Dynasty. Inside Palermo lived the Arab minority, protected by Slave soldiers (Serb-Croat), the Berbers were not allowed to amass that close to the palace & commercial centers. In the weaker later stages of the Emirate, Local Berber lords waged their own wars and enslaved Byzantine Siculos (Culturally Greek Christians). Those slaves started appearing in record a few decades after the fall of Bari (mainly sold in North Africa). The Slavic stock in Sicily was probably loyal to the Byzantine faction that invited the Aghlabids over. Aghlabids typical to other Arab dynasties had a large stock of African concubines, they assigned the children of concubines tribal names, Khalfun is mentioned as part of Rabia, making him more than likely the offspring of an African concubine. Mifraq (could possibly be a Slavic soldier slave from Palermo, because he was not addressed with any tribal name by historians who mention his attempts to get recognition as Wali and he might served in the same capacity prior to taking over), Sawdan is the offspring of a Kalbid Arab, unlike Khalfun his tribal name associates him with the competing Kalbids, who later allied with the North African Fatimids. Concubine offspring was the dominant type in the Arab dynasties in Sicily, the early offspring was largely African (Nubian, Ethiopian & more southern Subsaharans), taking Siculo slaves was much more dominant in the later stages of the conquest, Bari is a by-product of the early stage of the conquest. Droveaxle (talk) 06:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Khalfun is described as al-Barbari by Baladuri. In Marco Di Branco's words: "era certamente di stirpe berbera". What are your sources? Srnec (talk) 00:20, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Greeks & Arabs also called Somalis, Darfur & big parts of Sahel as Berber, it wasn't until the 11th century when slave trade started specifying Zanj as the heavier stock Subsaharans, until recent times Somalis and Fur people (Darfur) were called Berber. Hence Berbera in the horn of Africa is still called as such, legacy of Greek & Arab historians who assigned that term (Somali, Sahel & North African Berber). Berber in general were not Slave stock, except Sahel where early trade took in slaves from that region. Zanj later meant Bantu, but at that time it could have included the Africans of Nubia-Chad as it was new lands to recently arrived Arabian Aghlabids.

The Kitama berber (who were involved heavily in Sicily), along with Kalbid Arabs & Greek Siculo slaves played a major role fighting the Aghlabids in Sicily, Tunisia & eventually establishing the Fatimid caliph, Cairo was taken by an army led by a Sicilian Greek Slave, but that era is two centuries after Bari. By then the slave stock became largely Greek-Siculo, the Kitama tribes were the Berber stock from the highlands west of the Tunisian lowlands domianted by the Aghlabids & other Arabs. Those Kitama berber are what we still call Berber today, they entered sicily as an Army along Aghlabids & later changed alliance to Fatmids & eventually expelled out of Sicily via a local Arab-Siculo-Saqaliba alliance.

Decide whats the proper word to use, for now I left it as African, it should not be Saracen, Arab or Berber as those words mean something else today, also Zanj of Aghlabid times (Sahel African-Nubians), is not the same Zanj of the later slave trade era, (more Bantu). Most the material written about Bari in later times are either religious church mentions or later Muslim accounts both with time specific agendas, not exactly accurate. Droveaxle (talk) 09:16, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Droveaxle: I understand what you are saying, but you will have to cite some sources to change the page, since reliable sources have been provided for "Berber". What are your sources for the ethnic composition of the Islamic armies operating in Sicily and southern Italy? Srnec (talk) 15:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

HRE[edit]

I'll need some backup on Talk:Holy Roman Empire. Polish nationalist are a kind of people really hard to explain the truth to.Ernio48 (talk) 00:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIV, May 2018[edit]

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Kingdom of Germany infobox[edit]

Please don't revert my editation, which I added infobox into the article, and than you removed. Kingdom of Germany is one of the three kingdoms (latin Tria Regna), which were parts of the early medieval Holy Roman Empire. Kingdom of Italy and Kingdom of Arles (Burgundy) are have also own infoboxes, Germany was the only one that did not, and it is that reason, why I added infobox to Germany, although the informations there are very similar as Holy Roman Empire, but it is not without purpose. If you find and declare, that some informations there are untrue, please delete them or change, it is a better way by my point of view. Dragovit (talk) 08:31, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

There is no consensus for that article to have an infobox, as is clear from the edit history and the talk page. The page is watched, so you could bring it up again on the talk page and see where it goes. Srnec (talk) 15:20, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXLVI, June 2018[edit]

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New Page Patrol?[edit]

Hi Srnec,

I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join New Page Patrol, and from your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; we could use some additional help from an experienced user like yourself.

Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR.

Cheers, and hope to see you around, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 12:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry[edit]

Hello. I genuinely had no idea there was no such page in that book. To my shame, I didn't check to verify. Just found it in another article and took it for granted. I feel quite embarrassed now. Again, sorry for the bother. Torpilorul (talk) 18:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Alfonso VI[edit]

Hi Srnec, I just noticed these changes in the article on Alfonso VI of León and Castile. In the second paragraph a "why" re Reilly's statement about his age when he died. In the third paragraph a "how" re the charter signed by all the children except Elvira as mentioned by the source used, Sánchez Candeira (he does not elaborate, just says that they signed the document...even if they were too young to sign, this was common practice at that time and almost newborns appear confirming charters). How do I respond to the second one? I can't answer for the first since I don't have Reilly's work. Regards, --Maragm (talk) 05:16, 21 June 2018 (UTC) (just think that those paragraphs are very well referenced and it's a shame to have those templates).

I'm not really sure why Reilly (and Salvador Martínez) have the Crónica de Sahagún saying "setenta y dos" where it clearly says "sesenta y dos" (at least in the Puyol edition). Salvador Martínez even quotes it at length (with setenta). Perhaps there is a reason. I have for now put it in a note.
I think the "how" was just about what action "confirm" entailed. I have replaced the word with "signed". Srnec (talk) 23:27, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ƣalib[edit]

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Siegfried of Ballenstedt[edit]

Hello Srnec. I performed the technical move that you requested. Now that it's done, could you check the Wikidata entry to see if it looks right to you? I am not sure that all the different Wikipedias are linking to the same person. Is this guy the same as the Pfalzgraf von Lothringen? The entry in Neue Deutsche Biographie is cited, but the body of this article doesn't mention Lothringen. The German Wikipedia calls this guy de:Siegfried I. (Weimar-Orlamünde). On the German Wikipedia, the succession boxes appear to be more complete. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 20:40, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, EdJohnston. Yes, the links look correct. Our article says "count palatine of the Rhineland" (the German says Pfalzgraf bei Rhein), but some sources call the county Lotharingia (Lothringen). Same thing. I made Siegfried I of Weimar-Orlamünde a redirect already. Srnec (talk) 21:41, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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Omani Empire[edit]

As it stands it's a copyright violation, containing so far as I can see only unattributed material from other articles. The edit summary "remove redirect" doesn't seem quite accurate, as the editor also added all the current content. Any merger requires sorting out the copying within Wikipedia issue. Doug Weller talk 10:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I wanted to revert, but the original redirect target was wrong (the 'Omani Empire' certainly doesn't begin in 1820 and last until 1970) and the alternative target, Sultanate of Muscat, was a stub. That's the only reason I left it as is and just put a tag on it. What articles is the text from? Srnec (talk) 16:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
Apologies, I'm not watching your page. Oh hell, take a look at this edit. He left the source as Beck, which is here but replaced the text with copyright material from here. The new text isn't in Beck at all. Doesn't make me trust the editor. Earwig shows more.[1] Doug Weller talk 12:49, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps I should have pinged you. Anyways, it seems that the material has been removed. Still, there is a major problem with our coverage. I have no idea why 1820 is the date that separates our Sultanate of Muscat from our Muscat and Oman. The former does not even mention Zanzibar, which presumably was what prodded our new editor into action. I don't know if "Omani Empire" is the best title, and I do not believe three articles are necessary, but currently these two articles are not much help. One day... Srnec (talk) 02:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Admin Dianaa reverted it back to the redirect due to all the copyright material in it, and the editor who added it was rather unhappy.[2] Doug Weller talk 13:54, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

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'modern' was five years old[edit]

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Mary de Bohun[edit]

Could I have your thoughts on this? --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:56, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

It seems that Montarg is correct. Chris Given-Wilson's biography Henry IV (Yale University Press), p. 32, n. 43, says that the child was his sister-in-law's. He cites the same PRO source that Ward, Women of the English Nobility and Gentry, 1066–1500, p. 69, cites. You can read it there; it doesn't name Henry or Mary de Bohun. Given-Wilson considers identifying the 'lady' in the source with Mary a misreading. Given-Wilson directs me to Ian Mortimer, The Fears of Henry IV, app. III, for more information. Mortimer gives the source of the error as Wylie's biography of Henry IV from 1884. Srnec (talk) 20:18, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you sir! --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

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