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Commas after King, Jr.'s name[edit]

Hi. The commas after King's name in his father's article make reading it more awkward (like this section would be the awkward "Commas after King, Jr.'s, name". I don't think the 'comma after another comma' guideline refers to Jr. and Sr. names, as in that case the comma is part of their proper name and not a stand-alone comma. Randy Kryn 1:14, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

As you know from our discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § RfC: Guidance on commas after Jr. and Sr., as indicated by style guides, English punctuation requires a comma before be matched by a comma after. You say "I don't think the 'comma after another comma' guideline refers to Jr. and Sr. names" but these style guides specifically say it does:
sroc 💬 01:31, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
There is no consensus on using it here, the discussion is still ongoing. By choosing the prominent King pages to "make your stand" (let's keep it a friendly stand) you seem to want to cause some disruption before a consensus is reached. Can we leave those comma-free for now? I can't revert you again on King Jr. so it seems like an unfair move on your part. boo, hiss, grumble, Randy Kryn 1:44, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
There is no consensus to omit the comma and failing basic English punctuation makes this encyclopedia look amateurish. You're taking as much a stand by reverting my edits without any valid rationale.
Also, do you realise your edit marked "consistency" restored a bunch of inconsistencies?
  • "Martin Luther King, Jr. (January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968), was ..." (comma before and after)
  • "Martin Luther King, Sr. and ..." (comma before, not after)
  • "Martin Jr., was ..." (comma after, not before)
  • "... James L. Farmer Jr. of ..." (neither before nor after)
  • "King Jr., Martin Luther ..." (no comma before "Jr.")
Now who's being inconsistent. You see how much trouble inserting the comma before "Jr."/"Sr." causes? sroc 💬 01:55, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

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