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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Stereorock, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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K200AA[edit]

K200AA has been proposed for deletion. Please review WP:NOT and WP:N for general concerns and improve the article if possible. NickelShoe (Talk) 06:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I re-worked both K200AA and 87.9 MHz to conform to a higher standard. Fucking deletionists. --Analogdemon (talk) 15:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

87.9 MHz[edit]

I'm writing regarding the article 87.9 MHz, after reading it I'm have trouble understanding how this frequency is in line with our notability guidelines, so I'm listing it at Articles for deletion, I hope you can give us your opinions there. Thanks. Eivindt@c 22:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I voted to merge the contents of the article with the article on the RF spectrum. I have to agree that it's madness to have one article for every single frequency in a given part of radio spectrum. If you have an article on 87.9, that opens the door for someone to make an article for every 200 kc thereafter through 107.9, then someone in the UK might make 88.0, 88.2, blah blah. No need for that. All relevant data should probably be merged into the RF spectrum article. Assuming that's what the consensus ends up being, I'll take care of merging it once the discussion ends in a few days. --Analogdemon (talk) 23:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

October 2007[edit]

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WPEP[edit]

Jay, is PEP offically dark yet? Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. 23:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Doing good. Got out of broadcasting (Thank God!). Driving everyday from Attleboro to Peabody, then from Peabody to Warwick. Ugh! Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. 00:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Working on RF amplifiers for MRI systems. 17kW units. 208V 3 phase, these units draw about 15 amps. It's good money! Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. 00:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Need help[edit]

Looks like the Rhode Island LP stations remain (which they should) and that town in Florida, you are correct, the -LP call sign should remain and in most cases the call sign should remain as it is, not knocked down to the 4 letter abbrev. I will keep an eye on both pages. Let me know if you need further help. Take Care...NeutralHomer T:C 03:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

You (Stereorock) mighty want to actually LOOK at edit dif's before reverting blindly, as my latest edit to the article (that you reverted) didn't remove any stations. JPG-GR 03:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

On removing "Useless zeroes" from WBCQ[edit]

Why are you insisting on reporting shortwave frequencies in megahertz and then removing "useless zeroes"? First of all, the zeroes are not useless, see significant figures to understand why. Second of all, shortwave frequencies are often reported in either kHz or MHz, and when reporting in MHz, the nearly universal practice is to include 3 significant figures after the decimal point. WBCQ's own web pages report them both ways, and includes the zeroes that you deem "useless" when using MHz. See, e.g., wbcq.com home page: "Effective Friday, November 9, 2007, WBCQ's 18.910 MHz service has changed frequencies to 17.495 MHz." "WBCQ broadcasts 50,000 watts on each of its four international shortwave transmitters on 5.110, 7.415, 9.330 and 18.910 MHz." DHowell (talk) 06:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: User_talk:DHowell#Useless 0s
As you say you are familiar with significant figures as used in physics, then you should also be aware that a frequency measurement in kHz or MHz (by the way, I don't think I've seen any publications printed later than 1979 that use "kc." and "Mc.") is a physical quantity. Radio is indeed physics, not math. We don't need to say "18.91000" because shortwave stations are generally 5 kHz apart, so any precision beyond that would be useless and redundant. The issue is not about confusion, but about having a consistent style in Wikipedia. To further my argument, I cite the Wikipedia Manual of Style on decimal points, which says: "The number of decimal places should be consistent within a list or context (The response rates were 41.0 and 47.4 percent, respectively, not The response rates were 41 and 47.4 percent, respectively), except in the unusual instances where the items were measured with unequal precision." As I have no desire to get involved in a lame edit war over this, I will ask for a consensus at WikiProject Radio Stations and WikiProject Amateur radio. DHowell (talk) 02:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

List of radio stations in Rhode Island[edit]

I fail to see why you continue to revert this page despite my explanation as to my edits. It was determined MONTHS ago at WP:WPRS (a wikiproject you don't belong to, but might like to join) that this was an appropriate format for these lists. 49 lists do not include low-power stations, and there is no reason for the 50th one to do so. Your continued WP:OWNing of this list only makes you look bad. The LPFM stations are included in the appropriate categories and the appropriate templates. Why you are so determined for this list to not match any of the others baffles me. JPG-GR (talk) 17:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

WHIF[edit]

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RE:WHIF[edit]

Not all stations are notable. Has this one been covered in a third part source? Has it had notable appearences on the show? It must adhere to WP:N and WP:V. I don't know what you mean by "please don't cut and paste." Undeath (talk) 11:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

  • It's not a cut and paste, it's a template. All users on Wikipedia use templates as warnings, notifications etc... It makes things easier. Undeath (talk) 16:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Pawsox Radio Network[edit]

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I didn't propose deletion; I'm simply informing you that someone did. Fg2 (talk) 10:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Low-power stations[edit]

FYI - Thought you might like to know that I'm going through and refreshing/updating the info in the state radio lists. I've found a quicker and easier way this go around which will make the addition of the LP stations easier. I've already done the A-states (but still have to add their LP stations). JPG-GR (talk) 20:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 6Y[edit]

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WBCQ, WXCQ, WBCQ-FM[edit]

I have spoken recently with Allan Weiner, the owner of WBCQ, WXCQ and WBCQ-FM, as well as several people who live nearby. From this I determined:

  • WBCQ-FM signed on several weeks ago and on Thursday, August 8, began a new LMA country music format.
  • 780 terminated its relationship with Channel X Radio several months ago and is pending a new format/LMA using calls WXCQ. The new client may change the calls but for now it's WXCQ.
  • The FCC database is certainly not up to date with respect to these registrations!!

I recommend reverting or changing your recent edits.

-- --98.218.184.99 (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

AM stereo radio stations[edit]

I have proposed {{AM stereo radio stations}} for deletion as a substantial duplicate of {{AM Stereo radio stations}}. I see that you created both of these and that there are subtle differences between the two. Since two nearly identical templates are clearly unwarranted, I would suggest that any links missing from one be moved to the other before it is deleted in seven days. - Dravecky (talk) 21:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Tampa Bay Rays Radio Network[edit]

I had an issue with the notability because 'a list of radio stations' is nothing particular or encyclopedic. I see there is a bit more information now, so if it keeps going this way, then everything is fine :) The article was quite confusing then (The confuion's gone now, but I'd like to see some more improvements though, especially some wikification) especially regarding this spanish radio station airing games and not being part of a network. Q1: what games? Q2: Why are we talking about a radio station that is not part of a network on a particular network's article? I generally suggest adding information about their programs, the history of the network, any other notable thing about this network, and some good wikification. Ren 07:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron[edit]

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Welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron![edit]

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Welcome to ARS![edit]

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The Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter (September 2009)[edit]

Dates[edit]

Yes, dates are important, however linking from, for example KSEX-LP to June 22? Where is the value in that? Rich Farmbrough, 12:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC).

If it's when it happened, it's essentially its birth. Again, this goes to the Who, What, Where, When, Why & How. When is being sacrificed but, for example, Where isn't. They both should be allowed.Stereorock (talk) 12:52, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Places are more important, provided they are specific enough. So for example on that page we would link Dallas but not Texas - because someone trying to understand KSEX-LP is more likely to find useful information in the Dallas page (about demographics, topography etc). Similarly if you look at June 12 there is no information relating to KSEX-LP - nor should there be. The fact that KSEX-Lp was awarded a permit on June 12 of some random year does not belong on that page, has nothing to do with the Peasants Revolt arriving at Blackheath, and so forth. You will find guidance at WP:MOSNUM and WP:CONTEXT.
As for discussion, the matter has been under discussion for maybe five years, culminating in a poll Wikipedia:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll#Month-day_linking.
Best regards, Rich Farmbrough, 13:05, 28 December 2009 (UTC).
Re-reading I see that it was the founding date rather than when a permit was awarded. But even so there is no value in the link. What do you gain by clicking on it? Rich Farmbrough, 13:11, 28 December 2009 (UTC).
If I am so inclined, I can look up other information about June 12. While it's true I can also enter the date in the find field box, some other people may not know June 12 even has a page. When I started here 4 years ago I didn't know dates would have their own pages or years. Now there are year pages and "Year in...(category) pages too." So, KSEX-LP's sign-on date may be included in 1997 in television. As for no value being in the link, I think that depends on who is clicking the link. Someone in Dallas or elsewhere may not know of the Peasants' Revolt nor, up to that point, care.

As for places, I've seen that the "standard" (again, I don't know if there is one nor where to go to find the places equivalent of the dates group) is to link BOTH the community and larger jurisdiction (states, provinces, counties, etc.) separately (e.g.: Dallas, Texas). So someone can click on Dallas OR Texas and find out information on either instead of just being Dallas, Texas. To me the dates are as important as places because it helps me think of what the world was like when an even happened. The history of a station that started September 9, 2001 or July 18, 1969 would be different that one started 4 days after, for example. What did its crew have to do in the first few days of broadcasting when the event happened or did they decide to postpone their launch? Or, what about a group of ex-G.I.s who bought a station and flipped its format on V.J. Day? The very date itself is then relevant to the history of the station. Another example would be someone thinking to themselves "CZAR in Ottawa started on July 1? What's July 1? *click* Oh, it's Canada Day!" The beauty of Wikipedia, to me, seems not to be that it's a defacto depository of all the world's information but that other information can be found out that somebody may not have thought to even look up before. It's all interwoven like a web. It looked like the vote has already been decided and I don't know if it's too late to add my 2 cents. Sorry for being long-winded.Stereorock (talk) 13:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter[edit]

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Joe Tex[edit]

Per your revert here, you should be aware that dates (including DOBs) are no longer linked per MOS:UNLINKYEARS. There is no relevance to linking to August 8 when that page simply says that Joe Tex (or whomever) was born on that date and nothing more. That info is already in the article and doesn't need to be explained further. Additionally, dates should be properly spaced and include an en dash (per MOS:DOB) Thanks. Pinkadelica 04:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Seriously? This is the game you choose to play here? We don't get to pick and choose what guidelines and policies we want to follow. There are plenty I don't like but guess what? Still follow and even enforce 'em. Since this appears to be your crusade - have at it. A bot will delink the dates eventually anyway but hey, you won the battle and that's important. Pinkadelica 02:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
It's not a game. A game is when some group comes out of nowhere and decides what they want is going to be the only way ANYBODY can do things. One day, out of nowhere these bots & people started delinking dates. So I chose to fight. Dates had been linked since I started here & there has never been a good reason to stop the practice presented to me or anybody else that I was able to find. Since it seemed to be an arbitrary practice, why go along with it. See, that's the beauty: you CAN pick & choose which ones to go along with. You go along with the right ones & fight the wrong ones. If there are practices you don't like but go along with, then fight! Any words misusing an apostrophe, I fix.

I was able to find the group which apparently decided this & registered my disagreement with their decision & how it wasn't brought up to a vote of EVERY USER. Even then, there will be new users. That's the beauty of Wikipedia.Stereorock (talk) 02:31, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Overlinking[edit]

I have observed a few instances in which you have added double square brackets to dates. Please note that this is not an accepted formatting on WP. If you need more information, please contact me. Tony (talk) 02:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the date-autoformatting. But it goes further than that. The past year in particular has seen a tightening of the guidelines on overlinking more broadly, to protect the linking system from the widespread dilution that was occurring. Readers are clearly more likely to click on an item if the text is not densely linked with useless links. I notice "radio" and "American" are typically linked in a few articles in your contribs list I looked at. These clearly should not be linked. Please see WP:LINK. Another issue is the bunching up of two or three geographical links, when just one (the most specific), is much more effective. Chicago, Illinois, not Chicago, Illinois. Please ask if you have more queries. Tony (talk) 04:26, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
The overarching goal is to focus readers' attention on smaller bits of blue (otherwise the dilution effect weakens the wikilinking system). So, as above, bluing only "Chicago" is preferred to bluing both city and state (and country) name. If readers were going to click on anything, it would be the most specific; the Chicago article immediately presents links to state and country, anyway (the "chain" link effect). Tony (talk) 04:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Please comment[edit]

Please comment here. MisterE2123Five3 (talk) 07:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Your edit summary[edit]

There is no need to shout at me in your edit summary. If you have something to say, it's best to use a talk page. Please note that WP:WPRS is not a Wikipedia policy. It is a WikiProject. It can make recommmendations, and set guidelines if there is consensus among a wider audience, but it is not a policy. In the future, please discuss changes like that on a talkpage instead of trying to discuss through edit summaries. I may not understand radio stations, but I do understand the Phillies, and I do understand that the callsign is denoted as it was in the source, so all I was doing was following a reliable source as dictated by WP:RS, an actual policy. KV5 (TalkPhils) 20:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I might move the AM after the frequency a little later, just because that's the way they are traditionally read in this area. But no worries. I understand your passion; I am the same way about the Phillies. Happy editing! KV5 (TalkPhils) 20:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

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WAVA-FM[edit]

But you have made a sentence that reads in part..."leaving format rival WRQX (WRQX)"...it doesn't make sense. Plus, it is talking about history, so Wikilinks are acceptable. Please revert the "branding names". - NeutralhomerTalk • 20:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Which I changed because I didn't see that part. The page was showing an error. As far as I know, we always use the callsigns on here. Monikers are secondary to the callsigns. That's what I am led to believe.Stereorock (talk) 20:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, someone borked Wikipedia for a couple minutes. No worries, as long as we have the historic information, all is cool. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 20:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Classic Hits Radio Stations in Rhode Island[edit]

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I closed this as no consensus, but it would seem like a good idea to transclude it somewhere, like this
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Proposed deletion of WWNH[edit]

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WLKW[edit]

Can I just ask what you found objectionable, and why you undid my edit which was aimed at ensuring compliance with MOS – MOSDASH, MOSNUM and MOSLINK? --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 14:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

  • Yes, there were three changes:
  • WP:MOSDASH concerns the use and placement of endashes (as ought to be used in the article) as opposed to hyphens and emdashes. FYI, the hyphen is often misused instead of the endash. If you are interested in their differences or ensuring their correct placement, you may wish to install this excellent tool, which takes the thinking out of dash usage.
  • WP:MOSLINK referred to the linkage of the common term radio station. I guess one could argue that this link is highly relevant, but really one must be able to expect the reader's understanding of the subject will be deepened by clicking through to the target. However, it is one term I see overexploited. Broadcasting in the United States would be an improvement, either as [[Broadcasting in the United States|American radio station]], or unpiped in the 'See also' section.
  • As Tony mentions below, use of the piped link [[1956 in radio|1956]] is deceptive, certainly in the context it was used in the article. There would not be a problem if the unpiped link was used, either adjacent to the station's birthdate or as a 'See also'.
  • Incidentally, I would just say that the article has been on my watchlist for years. I cannot recall why I put it there, but suspect that I felt at the time there were issues. Heck, I may even have put it up for AfD... Anyway, it's been nice talking with you. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 11:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

your reversion[edit]

This edit: I query the benefit to the navigation system of covering up 1956 in radio by the pipe "1956". Isn't there a better way of showing readers this link-target, explicitly? (2) Is there something useful in radio station that I'm missing? Surely there's a more specific link-target. (3) You reverted corrections of hyphens into en dashes, which are required by the style guide. I see that you did not insert an edit-summary, which is not good form when reverting. Tony (talk) 14:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

No, my post here concerns why you reverted the changes: why you relinked a common term, and made the link to "1956 in radio" deceptive again. Tony (talk) 03:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC) PS Dashes: it's easy. When there's ANY internal spacing within either element, space the dash too. Tony (talk) 04:40, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this simple rule is true only in the Manual of Style, a collection of things made up one day. English, as usual, is more complex. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
<sigh> Tony (talk) 14:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


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Regarding your conversation with Hammersoft[edit]

I tried to help you out, but Hammersoft not only deleted my comment but actively worked against finding a good solution for you. Sorry about the situation. Buffs (talk) 22:11, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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I have nominated 3 of these articles for deletion. I can see what you are trying to do. However, I think that perhaps you ought to keep the articles in your user space until such time as they are reasonably complete. To put it another way, I don't believe the only radio stations using this frequency are 2 stations in Japan. I further not above that similar articles were deleted as not being in line with the deletion policy. I have not nominated the rest for deletion, because I don't have time and thought it would be a good idea if you were given the chance to explain yourself. I have to say that writing this many articles knowing that they are not notable could be seen as being disruptive. Op47 (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I would remind you that 87.9 was reduced to a redirect above, I assume you will be resurecting this at some point. Op47 (talk) 19:11, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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This award is a personal user award created by @Vjmlhds. It is not a barnstar, which is created by consensus. Please see Wikipedia:Barnstars#Adding_a_barnstar. Levdr1lp / talk 05:47, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
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@Levdr1lp: OK, OK...I made a mistake, I'm sorry. Nothing sinister or purposefully misleading intended...it was just my way of telling somebody thanks for having my back. Vjmlhds (talk) 06:48, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
@Vjmlhds: Fair enough. Levdr1lp / talk 06:49, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Whatever it's called or is, I think it's cool & thank you Vjmlhds! Stereorock (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I award you with the Good Humor Barnstar, first for putting up with the above squabble on your talk page, and second so you can now claim your fist legitimate, official, honest-to-God barnstar. Vjmlhds (talk) 20:38, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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WTOB[edit]

Okay, thanks. I've done a lot of work on both stations. NewsBank and the history room at the Winston-Salem library had plenty of information and if I took the time at the library I could probably find much more.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:54, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Beautiful! I haven't heard of NewsBank so I'm going to check that out. I'm thinking of looking at David Eduardo's site which has old Broadcasting Yearbooks in PDF that we've used for stations going back before 1979. I'm interested to see if there was at least a construction permit for WTOB-TV & any other associated stations with either (an FM for either, perhaps).Stereorock (talk) 19:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I am lucky enough to frequently visit a library that has that, but they told me they don't have the budget to keep it. I can go to another library that has it, but it's farther away. Unfortunately, the Winston-Salem Journal archives don't go back beyone about 1990.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
User:Neutralhomer seems to have a real problem with any history being in the article at all. It is true there was some information that, as worded, violated NPOV, so I took that out, but everything else went back. The edit summary claimed the information didn't match the sources, but I want to know where he got the sources. He can't say that if he actually looks, but I don't know if he can.
I finally found the text from the most recent Winston-Salem Journal article about WTOB. I copied it so I could work on the article when I had more time.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:29, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
And he's overly enthusiastic about WSMX too. He claims the information is not in the sources, but I ask the question: Did he go to the basement of the Winston-Salem library and look at those sources? He did not. If he had he would have seen what was there. He even took out the station's slogan which was right there in the HEADLINE of the Journal article.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:35, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
You are readding sources added a very over-zealous anon, so forgive me if I don't believe the text-only sources are correct. The linked sourced weren't or only had vague mentions of WTOB or WSMX, not the multiple mentions as the anon used it for. Again, forgive me if I don't believe those are correct either.
I did leave the most correct information on both pages as I did see both in updating the two pages. Also, the WSMX's slogan is not used on the air (by DJ or in bumpers). Now, granted this could be considered OR, but after listening to the station for some 3 hours last night and a couple today (non-stop), I never heard the slogan used once. To be honest, I never heard much except for some commercials and the top-of-the-hour ID last night and a very unexperienced DJ today.
I take radio station histories quite seriously, along with any other forms of history, and when there are problems, it all needs to be fixed. - NeutralhomerTalk • 22:06, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I was under the impression that if Tim Clodfelter put it in the headline, it was the offical slogan.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

We're getting the same IP putting in original research again.Stereorock (talk) 10:12, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I should have been keeping an eye on it. Thanks for doing so.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:23, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
@Stereorock: With Vchimpanzee continuing to re-add poorly sourced and dubious information along with information is just isn't notable, I have abandoned the WTOB and WSMX articles. I apologize, as I said I would watchlist them, but I can't do my job well when a seasoned editor is readding information that isn't helping the article one bit. Since Vchimpanzee claims he will "[keep] an eye on it", it should be in good hands. - NeutralhomerTalk • 21:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't know where Neutralhomer is getting "poorly sourced" and "dubious". And I don't know what makes the information non-notable as long as it appears in a proper source. The one time he clearly indicated what I had done wrong, I found the information and made the reference clearer.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:50, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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WMYB[edit]

WMYB-AM, the station at 1450 AM, is certainly entitled to be there. Whether it should be called WRNN (AM) can be debated. Some say the history goes with the frequency, although if the station signed off and the frequency was not used for several years, maybe that's not the case. I felt the obvious solution was to put the early history of WMYB in the WRNN article under "History of 1450 AM" while WKZQ and WTGR went under "History of 1520 AM". If there's a better solution, you're welcome to try it, but all the information deserves to be in Wikipedia.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:37, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

I created a redirect WMYB (AM). It seems kind of pointless for seven lines but if that's the way you think it should be done, then that's what should be done. Just be sure to include a hatnote in WRNN (AM).— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:42, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I wasn't clear. You want to create an article about WMYB, the radio station that existed until the mid-1980s. Just click on that link on the disambiguation page and do what you want. I have reordered WRNN (AM) to make the history entirely about WTGR/WKZQ, and I put the earlier WMYB/WQOK/WCSE history in a separate place while waiting for you to do your part. I left it in the WRNN article for now since you said you would create the new article.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:50, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Spelling error as well as removing the schedule. I did not know about WP:NOTDIR. I had seen it done on some other station's page and decided to do it with ours. I appreciate your help. Best! Bubrahucuze (talk) 19:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hey, I was doing something recently and noticed you flipped the AM and FM order of Template:Mexico State Radio. All of the Mexico radio boxes in that style (exceptions: a bunch of border areas, Mexico City, anything in Tamaulipas) have FM first and then AM. I understand your reasoning but opted to put FM back on top.

The main reason is that upwards of 70% of Mexican radio stations are FMs. The government's AM-FM migration scheme has left very few AMs that are standalone (without an FM partner), and indeed, not many AMs overall. Outside of big cities (where there wasn't room), certain indigenous radio services (where coverage area matters and they're daytimers to start), and odds and ends here and there, most radio stations are FMs or AM-FM combos.

I wanted to ask your opinion on some of the different types of templates we have for Mexico:

  • Standard: FM in the first line, AM in the next line, sorted by frequency statewide. Example: Template:Nayarit Radio.
  • American: Sorted by frequency alone or frequency and calls. Example: Template:Reynosa Radio, Template:Tijuana Radio. I personally don't like this.
  • Chihuahua/BC: Sorted by frequency within geographic areas. Example: Template:Chihuahua Radio. I like this for bigger states because of the number of stations. For Chihuahua, which is very large and has several radio markets in it, it makes a lot of sense.

If we standardize on one, which should we keep? I'd like to consolidate the AM and FM listings into one box (and list combos one time, for instance "XHCHH 97.1 + 650"), but I'm not sure what you'd want to do. Raymie (tc) 08:10, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Why are you being a Vandal on my edits?[edit]

I have reported you already.

You are lying to yourself[edit]

It is not promotion, it is explaining the origins of the popularity of Chef on Youtube.

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Thanks. Sorry, I am wrapping up at a location & am fighting the clock! Plus, I was trying to decide if a 3RR would be more appropriate.Stereorock (talk) 22:11, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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Just wanted to point out the introductory text to that list – "The following is a list of the FCC-licensed radio stations...". That's the same on every one of those state lists, and the standard has always been that we don't include any station until they've been issued their license to cover. That's true regardless of whether they just have a construction permit, or they're operating under program test authority. In fact, if precedent is any guide, there probably shouldn't even be an article yet. Not going to get into a thing about it, though - I've seen you around enough to know that you're a good hand. Their license filing has also been accepted so, government nonsense aside, it ought to be issued reasonably soon.

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Thank you! I hope you have enjoyed your Saturday and now Sunday! Thanks for all of your tireless efforts! As for WWRI-LP, I thought once it hit the air and we had a source that it was fair game. I definitely agree with not having every C.P. having its own page. We'd be stuck with pages for thousands of "stations" that never see the light of day. I had to keep a few off of the Cape Cod template a while ago.

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Hello. In case you haven't seen my notification in the wnyc section above. I've responded to your comments.Please see the wnyc talk page. Thank you. Formulairis990 (talk) 17:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

diigt grouping[edit]

You are correct that a comma is permitted with four digits, but the point is that the article was correct previously. Please don't change from one correct style to another just because you prefer the latter. I will refrain from reverting those edits of yours - please refrain from making them in the future. Ok? Jeh (talk) 05:31, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Per the third paragraph of the lede of WP:MOS, "Where more than one style is acceptable, editors should not change an article from one of those styles to another without a good reason." If you had a reason other than simply "because I like it this way," then forget I said anything. (But please do put that reason in your edit summary in the future. Thanks!) Jeh (talk) 02:08, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
It's what they taught in school. Anything with more than 3 groupings received a comma. The only things that didn't were years. Thanks, by the way, for your patience in awaiting my reply. I work Wednesday-Sunday which doesn't leave much time for answering; at least as not as much as I would like. I also want to thank you for your vigilance in making sure WP:NOTRADIOGUIDE is enforced as well as WP:NOTTVGUIDE.Stereorock (talk) 03:35, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Most of what we were taught in school is a gross oversimplification. :) Per WP:MOS, both no-comma and comma are acceptable for four digits. Yes, MOS would dictate commas for five-digit SW frequencies but IMO that's a case of "defer to the sources". Jeh (talk) 13:41, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
That last sentence made me laugh and reminded me of a line that goes something like "I never learned to think in school." Yup, MOS style allows for both. The pages should be consistent, and I'm not going to contest any changes that brings the pages into harmonyStereorock (talk) 13:55, 29 March 2016 (UTC).
Additional: I think WP: WPRS needs to weigh in so its codified. Right now, S.W. stations' frequencies are a gray area. Maybe WP: Radio should weigh in too. For me, it seems when a whole band exists over 1 of a base unit vs. 1,000, then the smaller number takes precedence, which is why I prefer MHz for S.W. frequencies. Admittedly, there are a lot of shortwave stations giving their frequencies in kHz, which clouds matters. If we harmonize listings, we'll be doing something even the stations themselves can't agree about.Stereorock (talk) 14:04, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Short wave frequencies[edit]

Sorry but I've been a SWL since the mid-60s... you are mistaken. For current refs, see for example this online guide and this sample page from the WRTH. For older, try the SWL column from this 1971 issue of EI (you'll have to scroll to page 38 for that one), or this one from 1967 Popular Electronics (page 83), etc., etc. here are a couple of Sony SW portables - my ICF 2010 agrees. As does my little Tecsun PL-380. You will find exceptions in some radios (the Icom R75 is one and I believe the Kenwood tabletops are, as well) but kHz with no digit separator is and has long been the notation used in SW program listings. Jeh (talk) 14:32, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for those links! I started SWLing about a quarter-century after you, around 1991. I am a student of radio history and enjoy reading as much historical material as I can. I have seen in old FCC documents (1930s-1940s) that they gave the frequencies in Mc. vs. kc. and the radios showed Mc. as well. I suppose that's due to the fact that, for example 2 and 10 take up less space than 2,000 and 10,000 do on an analog dial. I have a 1979 Zenith Transoceanic that has the frequencies in MHz and I don't know this, but suspect listing kHz became more common once digital receivers came about. I have a Radio Shack DX-402 with kHz figures, but have a cheapy portable that has it in MHz. But, I realize I am just rambling. I should go to bed. Oh, one last thing-you seem to be versed in SI units. Was it 1960 when cycles fell by the wayside in favor of hertz? That is my understanding which is why I wrote cycles for events happening between circa 1924-1959, and hertz from 1960-now. The changeover seems to have coincided with the 1960 metric conference. OK, I'm tired. Goodnight and 73! Maybe I'll work you on the bands one day as I see you're a ham too.Stereorock (talk) 03:45, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Re the pattern for shortwave freqs, well, I did give you two old magazine refs from the pre-Hertz era that used kc (with no comma) for their shortwave columns. I believe it was the 1960 conference that recommended the changeover - it was not mandatory - and manufacturers and publishers just got around to it whenever it was convenient. Electronics Illustrated was by the way an SI holdout; they stuck with kc, megacycles, etc. for many years after PE switched. (The real joy there is that all of those old EI, PE, RE, etc., issues are online!)
I understand the rationale for using kc., etc., for things that happened in those times. After all if you look up the old FCC docs you will not find any kHz or MHz. But in general MOS:UNITS prefers SI units unless there is a compelling reason to do otherwise. Note that when writing about e.g. the pyramids of Egypt, we don't give their height in rods or cubits or whatever the ancient Goa'uld Egyptians used, even though there might be references for those. It wouldn't matter much in this case since the numbers don't change, but additional relevant WP principles are WP:COMMONNAME (which is written for article titles but is commonly cited re body copy as well), and the "principle of least astonishment": The vast majority of WP readers likely never heard of "kilocycles", so the information just flows more smoothly into the brain if we stick to the more familiar unit name, even though there's no numeric conversion. Jeh (talk) 06:10, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
It always helps when a user in a disagreement sees the opposite view & the reason you listed is why I put things in cycles, as Hz would be anachronistic. When I would read it, it seemed anachronistic, but I completely get that most people wouldn't know cycles; I didn't until the late 1980s when I was about 10. You make a good point about cubits & Goa'uld: I've never heard of the latter & only know the former from trying to read the Bible when I was younger (I gave up). I still am not sure what the hell a cubit is, although it sounds like an '80s' educational game, like a Spirograph.Stereorock (talk) 19:48, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Cubit? I don't even know it!Stereorock (talk) 11:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Goa'uld are a race of "ancient astronauts", and the original Big Bad, from the Stargate franchise. In that continuity, the Goa'uld either built the pyramids or coerced the Egyptians to do so, were the actual "Egyptian gods", and seeded humans on many planets. From memory I think a cubit was about the length of a human forearm; I could never be bothered to look it up :) Jeh (talk) 18:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Sockpuppet report (not about you!)[edit]

Take a look here. Jeh (talk) 07:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Investigation confirmed they're the same account. Both have been indefinitely blocked. Watch out for similar patterns in the future. Jeh (talk) 18:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
And another one was found and indefblocked after just seven edits. Jeh (talk) 04:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for starting that. I'm sorry that I didn't get a chance to put in some other evidence I had found, but thank you for that! I shall watch for those patterns. Now, who knows if the changes said user made (like slogans, etc.) are even accurate. That's gonna be a big job!Stereorock (talk) 22:32, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
There's justification in P&G for deleting any slogan entry that doesn't have a reference. Besides, most stations these days have more than one, they change them the way I change my socks, and who's to say what "the" slogan is? Nor should we try to keep up with multiple ones. Jeh (talk) 04:39, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
I get a feeling the banned editor was listening to the stations' streams and every time a liner was played, the slogan category got changed. True, a station can have more than one slogan, and I have no problem with not being up-to-the-second. But, I wonder about some of the edits; there were a few that said something like "Such & Such A Place's 24-hour news and traffic station". They were for stations that weren't news all-night. A WCBS or WINS I can see with that slogan, but not in Toledo.Stereorock (talk) 04:46, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Pacifica edits reverted April 2016 with no explanations, no talk.[edit]

I rec'd notification that my additions on Pacifica were reverted. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pacifica_Radio&oldid=prev&diff=714661159

Pacifica edits I added and then I put on their Talk page to explain what/why were 'reverted' by you same day ? why? There were no explanations nor reasons for corrections made... and they are Not now on the Pacifica page at all. Not just the 2 'citations' removed, nor corrected ? What I contributed is all gone there now.

[did I not do those correctly to put them there ? where then? Those references contain more information for Updating on Current Pacifica process in those 2 references - for readers' expanded information]

Please respond. Obviously I am not a tech person -- but fully informed and updated on many, not all, happenings at both KPFK and Pacifica -- and want Wikipedia to be up to date, not antiquated and useless.

I had inserted 2 more headings / topics that are also eliminated since your 'revert'.

If my knowledge and readings-learnings = that are neutral and not partial nor personally/ financially interested, nor conflict of interests, etc. is unwanted and unexamined, and just reverted/deleted, then I can leave and know Wikipedia is not what it claims to be.

Very very old info was in these two radio station related sites before, mostly written by those promoting their own shows/programs. My attempts to update them some finally and provide actual information and also references as to where to get more info have been deleted.

Please respond. thanks. my limited know how re HTML, etc. should not be a reason to reject me & my contributions. Activistrep (talk) 22:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)activistrep

I'm not super-knowledgeable on HTML either. From what I remember of that particular revision, it was because you put in, and numbered, references that weren't connected to any body of text. What were your liked references in reference to? It looked like you just added links. They weren't references, but just links. Those go in the external links section. As for subsequent revisions, you'll have to ask whomever pulled them down why they did that. If they were just to some angry Guy's YouTube video who had a bone to pick with Pacifica, that might not be seen as a quality link. I don't know, I never clicked on your links Stereorock (talk) 04:52, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) PMFJI, but... One: Stereorock only deleted the two links you added at the end of the references section. He didn't do any of the other deletions you're on about.
Two: I'd have deleted those links also. Per WP:ELNO, item 11, if nothing else. Both of them are basically gripe sites, neither shows a shred of a sign of editorial oversight. And as SR said, you just made up two numbers (which would have been wrong the next time a proper ref was added) and did not tie them to anything in the text you added to the article. If I see ill-formatted references I'll usually fix them up, but in this case there was no way to know how to do that (and no editor is going to pore through your text to see where you might have wanted them to go).
Editing WP is very little about HTML. WP has its own markup notation. There is help all over the site; you could start with this. Or you can try the visual editor. But if you just want to put a "bare" reference to a web site into an article, you can use <ref>your_URL_goes_here</ref>. Or if you want to add a description of the site you can use <ref>[your_URL_goes_here your_description_goes_here]</ref>. Someone else will turn it into the fancier "cite web" or whatever form. You'll get the hang of that soon (it's not difficult).
I see you've already started discussion at the article talk page and I may answer further there. Jeh (talk) 05:01, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Slogan parameter on radio station infobox[edit]

You're invited to comment here. Jeh (talk) 03:48, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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June 2016[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm SLBedit. I noticed that you recently removed some content from S.L. Benfica without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Was it a mistake? SLBedit (talk) 00:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

S.L. Benfica[edit]

Is this change gramatically correct? SLBedit (talk) 23:27, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

No, the word 'the' would be appropriate in this case.Stereorock (talk) 23:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Okay. What about "by Globe Soccer Awards"? Thanks in advance. SLBedit (talk) 02:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
What's Globe referring to, a newspaper or something else? Boston has the Boston Globe, for example. If Globe is something else, it may be OK (like if Globe is the proper name for a TV station, for example. Can you give more of the paragraph so I can see the context? Thanks!Stereorock (talk) 03:25, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Benfica received the award for Best Academy of the year by Globe Soccer Awards. SLBedit (talk) 21:45, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
That's works. I wish I could explain better when we use "the" in English, I know it can be a bit confusing at times; it can even vary within dialects. For example, in the U.S., we say "go to the hospital" whereas in the U.K., it's "go to hospital." I am unsure why it varies like it does. If you would like me to look over any further sentences, please let me know! By the way, it sounds like "Globe Soccer Awards" would use a "the" if the sentence were "...Best Academy of the year at the Globe Soccer Awards." The 'at' would change the use of 'the'.Stereorock (talk) 22:24, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Changed to "at the". Thanks. SLBedit (talk) 02:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)