User talk:Steve Quinn/Archive 2

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Message from interferometrist..[edit]

Hi, Is this the proper way to send a message to another editor? (I'm still very new here!). As I mentioned on another talk page, thanks for the references concerning negative refractive index metamaterials, which I will try to look at (certainly before I go and change any of the page content!).

But I wanted to ask another question. I was going to edit a page which I have expert knowledge of, but I realize that material on WP is supposed to have references in the public domain. Unfortunately some technologies are not very well publicized because the corporations that employ them don't like to help their competitors! Is it acceptable to insert as a reference "Notes taken during course lectures by Prof. Planck" for instance? I know it doesn't make sense for people to have to post some material on a website just so they can refer to it as being in the "public domain" rather than just writing it on WP. How strict is the rule about verifiability?

Thanks for your answers in advance! Interferometrist (talk) 16:04, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Also can you tell me why some of my insertions come out in long lines, like above? Was I not supposed to put in the leading blanks? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interferometrist (talkcontribs) 16:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


Hi, THANKS for your help about editing and punctuation, and also about referencing material:

Right now I am looking into your question regarding notes that you transcribed from a course or a professor. I am assuming that you want to write your notes into an article on Wikipedia.

Thanks! Yes, I already have uploaded the content, but I do take the matter of verifiability seriously and wanted to do this right. But I had no doubt about the accuracy of what I was writing given that it came from a primary source (the professor was involved in the research cited) and that I understood it well (and would have the expertise to discern whether the information is questionable). Unfortunately, as I was saying before, when you go from science to engineering, there may be little or no academic material available because the companies involved are more interested in protecting what they perceive as trade secrets :-(

There is no problem with that as long as you can support these with reliable secondary and tertiary, sources.

Well I have finally dug up a secondary source which I can equally well cite, and will add that to the article's references. So that should suffice. Though if you do get an answer about using course notes as a source, I'd be interested in the answer!

Here are some guidlnes you can look at WP:RS, WP:PSTS, and WP:SOURCES.

Yes, I've been looking through those, thanks. But it seems there are a lot of such guidelines and I was hoping not to get too involved in the process but just to help add content to WP among topics where I have some expertise and see room for improvement in what's already posted. Much of the care that is requested really has more to do with controversial topics where there may be an actual question of neutrality. Thanks again for all the help!!

Interferometrist (talk) 12:52, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


Dear Steve, Thanks for your concern. I get abuse on my talk page all the time, because I am an admin and delete quite a lot of articles. There are lots of contributors here who get really serious abuse on their talk pages, so I just ignore it. Unfortunately, wikipedia attracts a lot of not-so-bright people along with the intelligent people. :-) Deb (talk) 12:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

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