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WPRU Announcement template[edit]

Hey, I see you are a participant of Wikiproject Rugby Union. A template has been created {{WPRU Announcements}} for the project. It's function is to allow users to better communicate and co-ordinate tasks. Please consider placing it on your user page. Thanks. - Shudda talk 11:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


Hi Stifle, if you just use {{cleanup|January 2007}} it will do the job, no need for any more {{cleanup}} will also do as a bot will fill in the date (which saves us from typing and typos). Rich Farmbrough, 14:41 7 January 2007 (GMT).

Emil rex Cruz[edit]

Hi. You deleted Emil rex Cruz on 10 December 2006; however, Talk:Emil rex Cruz survived. Just thought you'd want to know. (Out of curiosity, as this is the second instance of this I've found lately from different administrators, do you have to choose to also delete the talk page the way that you have to choose to move it?) Thanks.Chidom talk  19:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, it's now deleted.
When we delete a page, if there is a talk page associated, we get a little notice on the confirmation page saying there is a talk page there too. I usually see that and delete the talk page too, but occasionally miss it. Stifle (talk) 21:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome, and thanks for the info. Everyone's allowed a miss now and again. Have good days.Chidom talk  21:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bobby Barr[edit]

I think you meant per Jcuk, not per Ben MacDui? - Dudesleeper 19:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Right. Thanks. Stifle (talk) 20:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Support Our Families[edit]

While I was rewriting Support Our Families you deleted it. I reposted it as a completely different article with the same title. Is there another way to go about posting it now that it is wiki material? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 20:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

You just did it. Stifle (talk) 20:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just posted a delete tag on the article on the grounds that it is a barely reformulated version of a promotional article speedily deleted this morning (I believe thatyou were the closing admin). I'm not aware that this is a political slogan one hears in the US as the article claims. It is, however, the name of an organization that this editor evidently represents.--Media anthro 22:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it should be deleted, but it's not a speedy - CSD:G4 refers to reposted content as opposed to titles, and the content is different. I recommend prod or AFD. Stifle (talk) 22:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Ral315 deleted Support Our Families today saying that it was recreation of a deleted article and then protected it so it couldn't be recreated. Can you please help me by undoing this deletion and protection? I know that the last time you read it you still thought it should be deleted - I since edited it (now it addressses verifiable usage on over 50,000 results in google). Either way, as you noted above the content was completely different and it seems that the manner in which it was deleted was inappropriate. I agree that it was promotional and therefore worthy of deletion when you deleted it. That alone doesn't seem like reason enough not to give it a chance now. I honestly think it was a valid contribution and put in a lot of time responding to every piece of feeback I received to make it so and am frustrated that it was deleted instantly without giving me a period of time to justify it to the community. 21:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

No, I do not have discretion to override other admins. You can make a listing at Wikipedia:Deletion review instead. Stifle (talk) 21:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


How exactly does one create an essay such as yous User:Stifle/Don't say non-notable? I wish to create one that says "Don't spew" meaning please do not create articles on every minor character in a book, show or game when there are no sources independent of the book, show or game. I know how to create an article, but not an essay page such as yours. Thanks. Edison 15:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

If you want to create it in your own user space, just create a link to it (like User:Edison/Don't spew), then click the link and edit it like a normal page. You can alternatively create it in Wikipedia space in the same way. If you do that, then make sure to put {{essay}} on it. Stifle (talk) 20:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Review[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Robert Benfer. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Esn 04:51, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure you've got the right person? I don't appear to have deleted that page. Stifle (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)



I find a page which i regular visit: Caribbean Coast, has been deleted. The reason has not connection to the page on wikipedia. I would like to restore the deleted page. Please help.


senatorto —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Senatorto (talkcontribs) 04:35, 04 February 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for your message. In future, please add ~~~~ at the end of your message to sign it.
Caribbean Coast was deleted on 2007-01-19 as it is a copyright violation from the website and as such I cannot restore it. Wikipedia cannot accept it as such. However if you need to refer to the information that was on the page, going to that web address may help. Stifle (talk) 14:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't say non-notable essay[edit]

I just stumbled onto your mini-essay User:Stifle/Don't say non-notable. I would like to inform you that similar sentiments were recently added to the essay Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions under the subsection Just not notable. --Farix (Talk) 04:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Stifle (talk) 20:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


I was wondering if you could restore Image:AnaLucia.jpg, as this image was actually used to replace Image:Anamich.jpg which is the same picture on the article now, just under a different file name. It was deleted in favior of Image:AnaLucia.jpg via Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 November 27#Image:Anamich.jpg. -- Ned Scott 03:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

The same image is still available on Season2-ana.jpg. Stifle (talk) 18:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Or was, seems to be gone. I've restored one. Stifle (talk) 18:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)



We were in discussion a few weeks ago regarding the "Zunafish" entry in Wikipedia. After reading your comments I attempted to make the article neutral in tone and content. Just wondering if you might review the revisions...the article at the moment still features a banner indicating it reads like an advertisement, though this was also in place before the most recent revisions.

And if there are further changes needed, please advise. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 21:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Hi, in future please sign your posts on talk pages by adding ~~~~ at the end.
Neither I, nor any other specific person, reviews articles. If you think an article has improved to a standard where a banner message is inappropriate, you can remove it; if you want further suggestions or otherwise on an article, please check out requests for comments. Stifle (talk) 22:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Age category[edit]

Hello! If you are receiving this message, that means that your user page is in a specific year category. Per a recent user-category per deletion, all specific year categories are to be deleted. If you wish to continue using year categories, you have two options:

If you wish, you may do both. Hopefully, this change in categorization will be quick and painless. Happy editing! --An automated message from MessedRobot 13:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Wooden spoon[edit]

Are you sure the wooden spoon is only awarded when a team is whitewashed? The article on the Wooden spoon award suggests otherwise, although I haven't found any strong evidence either way. I think a citation one way or the other would help clear this up. --Jameboy 17:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I have also not found any citations, it seems to be just a colloquialism. I'm not pushed if you revert the article, but there really is nothing either way. Stifle (talk) 20:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Irish question[edit]

Dia duit (Halloa)! I' m sorry to trouble You, but I want to ask: How Skellig Islands would be in Irish language.-- 17:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Oiléain na Sceilig, I think. Stifle (talk) 20:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


Re your warning that I may be in danger of violating 3RR on crop circle: I don't know how you got wind of this, but are you aware that I reported another user for what I though might be 3RR on the same article yesterday? I guess that he reported me to you as a way of evening the score. I wish administrators wouldn't participate in this kind of politics. I see no other reason for your warning, as I was warned about this rule once before, and thus a repeat was not necessary. Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 20:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I handled that report (the other user was blocked for 18 hours), and as you had already made three reverts on the article, I wished to ensure that you didn't end up the same way. Stifle (talk) 20:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, OK. I guess there's a good reason for AGF! Sorry. Thanks for the warning! Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 20:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Sock puppet warning[edit]

Just a heads up that I've filed a sockpuppet case against Martinphi here: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Martinphi. One of the articles in question is Crop circle where, if it is a sockpuppet, Martinphi would have been using it to evade the 3RR rule. Since you were the admin involved with that particluar block, I thought you should know in case you'd like to comment there. Thanks. --Milo H Minderbinder 14:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Stifle (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

EVP page[edit]

Hi, I'm wondering if you can help me out. There is an editor, ScienceApologist on the Electronic voice phenomenon page who is being just incredibly disruptive. He has edited the page under -let's see- at least two IDs. He continually makes very POV edits to the page. And now he has started taking out hunks of the talk page. What should I do, if anything?

Taking out pieces of the talk page:

here here

His admission of sock puppets: here and here

One of his most recent reversions: [1]

Block log: [2] I think his other IP was blocked too, but I don't know how to find it.

ArbCom on ScienceApologist: [3] Just search for his name on the page.

Well, I don't know what to do. He has made all hints of consensus on the page disappear. Just tell me. Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, the page had veered way off topic with many posts making accusations of sock puppetry (whether true or not) and having nothing to do with the topic of the article (as seen in the diffs, the stuff removed had zero to do with the article). I absolutely support removing those since requests to take sock puppet issues to WP:SOCK or WP:CHECK were ignored - the continued accusations were very disruptive. As for the POV, there's certainly a content dispute going on, and I'd argue that Martin and Davkal have been doing the POV pushing (and obviously it takes more than one to edit war). But the talk page of an individual admin isn't really the place to deal with this sort of thing, is it? A mediation case has been submitted for the article, is it really necessary to try and get an admin to block an editor making changes you don't like? --Milo H Minderbinder 12:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see at the top of this page: "Note that problems which any administrator could resolve are best posted on one of the various administrators' noticeboards." I don't generally get involved in problems by request and I'm going on vacation for a week anyway so I definitely won't be doing anything here. Stifle (talk) 21:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

My being blocked[edit]

You have been blocked for 18 hours for violating the three-revert rule at Crop circle. Please feel free to continue editing when the block expires, but please make an effort to discuss your edits in future rather than just blandly reverting. Stifle (talk) 20:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I am greatly confused. By my count, I only reverted three times, and I discussed my changes on Talk:Crop circle. Please explain the block. I am considering a RfA, and I realize that this will fail if I do not understand how 3RR is to be enforced. Obviously, I do not, because I thought I was following it and you blocked me. I will avoid the accusations of sockpuppetry and POV-pushing associated with MartinPhi. Michaelbusch 16:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Reverting is defined as undoing some or all of the changes of a previous user's edit, and you made the following four reverts on Crop circle between 01:39 on March 12th and 04:21 on March 12th:
  1. [4]
  2. [5]
  3. [6]
  4. [7]
I am not going to get involved in the sockpuppetry discussion because, inter alia, I am going to be away for the next week or so. This also means that any reply you make to this won't be dealt with until next week.
I hope you better understand the reason why you were blocked. Stifle (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

User CovenantD[edit]

Greetings. This user is unfortunately a tad obsessive and has once again breached the 3R-rule. 4 reverts on the article Mjolnir within 24 hours. His rationale aside, he's still gone ahead and done it.


Asgardian 23:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The correct place to report violations of the 3RR is WP:AN3. Please post it there in the prescribed format. Stifle (talk) 09:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Gaffney High School[edit]

I cannot understand why to delete the article. It is about an school, it is not a thing made up in school one day. I think most of the Gaffney High School article should be deleted, but this should not be sufficient argument for a whole deletion. Rjgodoy 20:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You should post your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gaffney High School, not here. Stifle (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The Apprentice UK[edit]

Fired!.png Hello, Stifle/Archive 0907 and thank you for your contributions on articles related to The Apprentice UK. I'd like to invite you to become a part of WikiProject The Apprentice UK, a WikiProject aiming to improve coverage of The Apprentice UK and related articles on Wikipedia.

If you would like to help out and participate, please come over and visit us here for more information. Thanks! Dalejenkins 07:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


Do you still feel that Omayra Sánchez is biased, or could the {{NPOV}} be removed? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 20:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed it. Stifle (talk) 21:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

School of Computer Science[edit]

Hello. Just letting you know that when deleting the list of schools you forgot to delete a page that was redirecting to it. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 00:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Anne Hunter[edit]

I'd like to request that you please reconsider the deletion of the page for Anne Hunter, the departmental administrator of Computer Science at MIT. There are outside sources I didn't know to include that feature her, such as The thing about administrators of departments is that they are often left out of the picture, and Hunter happens to be not merely "just another administrator" but the central go-to person and advisor, for the last 30-odd years, of one of the most important undergraduate computer science programs in the world.

Thanks for your time.

MIT21A350 06:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message.
The source you cited is neither considered reliable nor does it provide evidence that Anne Hunter is notable enough to be on Wikipedia. If you can provide one or more such sources I will be able to consider the request. You may also place an appeal at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Stifle (talk) 19:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Jason Gastrich[edit]

I have unblocked Jason Gasrich for a trial period. He remains under onerous restrictions, see Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Jason_Gastrich. Fred Bauder 01:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Your essay[edit]

I love Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue. The problem I see is, cite tags (and a few others) are most often applied in cases where they aren't particularly helpful. This has two drawbacks:

  • These tags should be a really useful cleanup tool, and aren't owing to the noise.
  • The tagged articles are made pointlessly ugly.

Anyway, you've said it better than I've managed to. I notice you've even attracted a response! Andrewa 03:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

A cloudless sky as seen from earth during most of the daylight hours is typically a shade of blue, and that's easily verifiable except by someone who's color-blind. Meanwhile, I'm reminded of something Frasier said to Cliff at the "Cheers" bar, after the eccentric postman had made some statement that was outlandish even by Cliff's standards. Frasier paused for a second to ponder, then said: "Cliff, what color is the sky in your world?" Wahkeenah 04:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps this would be better pursued at Wikipedia talk:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue. But AFAIK Wikipedia is not multiplanetary, just multilingual. I'm happy to assume that readers are not extraterrestrials. Interesting thought. Andrewa 10:15, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Imperia Tower image[edit]


My name is Alena. I really seek help of a wiki administrator. The problem is that I can't embed Imperia Tower image properly. It is constantly deleted by different administrators because as they write I don't have licence. I do ask you to help me to add Imperia Tower image ( from to both the main page of MIBC(Moscow International Business Center) and to the separate page on Imperia Tower Project.

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 17:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for your message. In future please sign your message by adding <nowik>Stifle (talk) 20:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)</nowiki> at the end. Also, for questions that can be answered by any administrator please use WP:AN.
If you don't have a licence to use an image, I'm afraid it can't be used here. Please read WP:IT for more. Stifle (talk) 20:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Hall/Corridor cricket[edit]

I presume you found the two articles to be substantially different. Thanks for removing the tag in that case. --Dweller 21:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Mario Strikers Charged Football move[edit]

You're an administrator, so you definitely know your shit and I don't want to patronise, but I really doubt that your recent Mario Strikers Charged -> Mario Strikers Charged Football will hold up. They're both valid names for the game, and I don't mind the article being at either name, but given that there's already a ridiculously long discussion at the talk page over the use of one word, any move is probably going to need a discussion to action. I'd hate for the others to argue, which they inevitably will, that the European box art should be deleted, using the same kind of reasoning as your move. - hahnchen 20:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree with Hahnchen here. Even ALTTP, who is from Europe and almost always argues that the European names should be used, agrees it should be at "Mario Strikers Charged" since that is where the article was originally at and both are valid names. WP guidlines say that when there is more than one correct English name (like there is here), that we go with what the original author and/or first major contributor used. TJ Spyke 20:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Walk Away (Movie)[edit]

I categorized this for speedy deletion in the place I did because, unless I'm mistaken, there isn't a category to nominate movies. I suggest you dig into this article and it's references as well as those of it's alleged author, producer, director whose article I had SD'd last night for the same reasons. This is a hoax page, nothing more. Neither the movie nor the companies listed in the article exist, it would be a mockery of the deletion process to even hold an AfD discussion about this article. Trusilver 21:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone else speedied it before I got to it, but I've listed it for deletion review because of failure to follow due process. I think it can be deleted but there is a process to be followed. Stifle (talk) 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed that and I got a good laugh out of it. I try to speedy it and it gets turned down, so I AfD it and it gets a speedy :-). If an identical situation occured again, would it be a better idea for me to speedy it under A11? Oh, an I'm hereby referring to this as "The vanity page that won't die. " -Trusilver 22:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
As A11 doesn't exist, I recommend not speedying it for that reason :)
I don't think I'd have speedied it for G11 (spam, which I think you meant) although another admin might. I predict the deletion will be overturned on DRV, it'll be returned to AFD, deleted by vote there, recreated by whoever created it in the first place, and then speedied and listed on protected titles.
In any case, if it shouldn't be in the encyclopedia it's best to get an AFD in the first place, because G4 (recreation of deleted content) doesn't apply to speedies or prods. Stifle (talk) 16:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, G11 is what I had meant :). Trusilver 17:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your userpage[edit]

Hi Stifle. While passing through your userpage I notice that you have an orange bar that reads "You do not have new messages". While this joke can be amusing to some, other users, receive many messages a day and it is quite annoying to see this bar when visiting your page, only to find out there are no new messages. Would you mind removing it, or adjusting it so it appears on another page or further down the page? Kind regards, Sebi [talk] 09:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

A couple of people have asked me before, and I have generally told them that it's a joke and the words "do not" should stand out. I guess not. While I like it and intend to keep it, I guess I could make it so that it does not link to Special:Mytalk. Stifle (talk) 20:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

A Game of Thrones collectible card game article.[edit]

I'm rather new at editing, and have been adding citations wherever possible. Some questions:

  1. Using the M:TG article as a basis I added verbal descriptions of the expansion symbols which has led to problems. Firstly, the symbols are hard to describe and so can be interpreted subjectively. I'm thinking of either removing the column or photoshop the actual symbols and hide behind fair use.
  2. Is it better to cite at the end of every paragraph the same source, the last paragraph only or put the footnote link at the header of the section?
  3. Any other suggestions for improvment, I've noticed that no one responds to my comments on the Talk page for the article, hence I'm here since you did post there once. Bloodycelt 19:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
  1. I would scan or photoshop the symbols, fair use seems reasonable.
  2. Use the <ref> tag. See Help:Footnotes for more information.
  3. I don't have any suggestions, sorry. Hopefully someone will get back to you on the article page. Stifle (talk) 20:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

straw man[edit]

"We want to repeat the same arguments again" isn't a good reason to overturn a deletion.

That is a straw man. What was said was that we want to present arguments that were NOT presented. That's the point. Michael Hardy 21:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


why was this deleted today?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rollscourt (talkcontribs) 20:12, August 20, 2007 (UTC).

It was previously voted to be deleted. Use Wikipedia:Deletion review if you disagree with the outcome of a deletion discussion. Stifle (talk) 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Anna Svidersky[edit]

Howdy! Back in May 2006 you participated in an AfD discussion on the Anna Svidersky article. There is currently a Request for comment on the talk page of the Svidersky article aimed at resolving a disagreement over the state of the article and the use of the Anna Svidersky title as a redirect to the Mourning Sickness article that was created during the 2nd Svidersky AfD. I hope you don't mind the interruption. Any additional or outside input would be greatly appreciated by all the editors on the Svidersky page. Thank you for your time. AgneCheese/Wine 14:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete template[edit]

What I need to do to delete these templates (Template:Fb rbr46 ground, Template:Fb rbr46 header and Template:Fb rbr46 result) that have no use anymore? Thanks. --ClaudioMB 03:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Either get the original author to tag them with {{db-author}} or gain consensus at WP:TFD. Stifle (talk) 19:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


I need help with Irish, and you seem like an interesting person. Would you mind makig contact? MSNM would be the best. Thank you. 瀬人様 16:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

At the moment I can't because my only internet access is through a Wii, but when my computer is back in action I will get back to you. Stifle (talk) 10:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply from The Hybrid[edit]

Please don't template me. An admin known as User:The undertow basically told me that the article couldn't be speedy deleted, so I was bold and replaced it with a prod. If I misunderstood him, or if this was outside of due process, then I apologize; however, when an admin tells me that an article can't be speedied I'm inclined to believe him. Cheers, The Hybrid 20:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, going into a speedying frenzy sometimes makes me miss out on obvious stuff like that. Still, only admins should actually remove speedy tags. Thanks for getting back to me. Stifle (talk) 20:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I kind of took it as an admin removing the tag since The undertow didn't think it should be speedied, and I just assumed that if I didn't remove the tag then he would, but I guess that was a borderline situation and I jumped the gun. I won't remove tags in the future. Oh well, I guess this just means that I was right the first time :). Everything has a silver lining. Have a nice day, The Hybrid 20:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

about the deleted page[edit]

i was going to link it to baltimore rappers but i dont really care —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lyricide (talkcontribs) 23:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you explain which article you are referring to, ideally by linking it between [[ and ]]? Stifle (talk) 17:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Info=[edit]

Thanks for helping me know how to delete pages. I'm newer to the editing realm of Wikipedia. Navnløs 17:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


Thank-you for cleaning up the links on the eNotary. I saw that this article was flagged. I am wanting to do things right here on WP. let me know what I can do to make this article better. Bringing more people within the notary community to contribute to the eNotary article is important to me. I contacted the "United States Notary Association" today. Hopefully they will contribute, as they are very knowledgeable on this topic. BTW I think there may be a problem with my user name being eNotary. Maybe thats why the article was flagged?. If so I will change that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ENotary (talkcontribs) 00:01, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. In future, please sign your messages on talk pages by typing ~~~~ at the end.
A start would be to add citations from reliable sources (which should be independent, i.e. not from the National Notary Association). That will help make the article verifiable. Stifle (talk) 19:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Removing messages[edit]

Dear Stifle, thank you for your guidance concerning the archival of User talk pages. I completely understand why the talk pages for mainspace articles should be preserved. However, I was unaware of the importance of User talk pages, and up until now I have treated mine in an informal, if not cavalier, manner. (Hmmm, maybe I shall design a userbox to this effect). All the best --Spud Gun 10:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! Thanks for being open to suggestion on the matter. Stifle (talk) 19:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

London School of Business and Finance[edit]

Hi Stifle! Hope you are doing well. You deleted this article -- London School of Business and Finance -- recently. I wonder why. I'm going to rewrite it, so I'm interested in your opinion about the previous version. Do you think that bschool doesn't worth writing about? Does better written article has a chance to survive ))? Thank you in advance for your help and advice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashedvolk (talkcontribs) 10:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC) Dashedvolk 12:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. In future, please sign your message by writing ~~~~ at the end.
No, I thought the article was written in the style of an advert. If you write an article that is less promotional in tone and includes citations from reliable sources, then chances are it will not be deleted. Stifle (talk) 19:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for prompt answer and advice, Stifle. I appreciate it. Dashedvolk 08:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stifle! I've rewritten the article you've deleted once - London School of Business and Finance. I would appreciate it if you could have a glance at it now. Is it OK now? What else can I add? Your advice is highly welcome. Looking forward to your reply Dashedvolk 14:52, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Much better. Better still would be references from newspapers or their websites. Good work! Stifle (talk) 20:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you Stifle! I see what you mean - I will try to find more references in print media, however now I'm outside of UK, so I don't have a chance to do proper research. Maybe I'll add a "citation needed" message to this article, so guys from Wiki community will help. Again - thank for you time and advice. Dashedvolk 08:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


What was the copyright violation? I'll fix it since it was my photo. Thanks. Sacredhands 12:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Scott schuman sartorialist bryant park fashion week photographer.jpg was deleted because it appeared to be a copyright violation. Specifically, it had been copied from flickr but the source page made no mention of the license. Therefore I assumed that you had copied it in violation of copyright. If you are the copyright owner, of course, then you don't need to put it there, but should instead use the license tag {{self|cc-by-3.0}}. I'll restore the image with that tag now. Stifle (talk) 19:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
sorry about that. I thought I had added the license to that image. It's now added. Thanks! Sacredhands 11:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictures from an infinitely blocked user[edit]

Hi Stifle, I came across the Irish sculptor John Hogan when I visited Tallow this year. I found an article about him at the English-speaking Wikipedia and a couple of images of his sculptors. As they find wider interest than just in the community of the English-language edition of the Wikipedia, I decided to upload them to the Commons--which seemed to be no problem given the licenses. When I wanted to notify Jcmurphy who uploaded one of the images and revised some of the others, I found out that he was blocked by you for some time because of copyright violations and shortly thereafter even infinitely by another admin. I do not want to investigate this case but I simply would like to know if there are any problems with these images that are of concern for the Commons? All four images can be found referenced in this article. Thanks for your help and kind regards, AFBorchert 09:55, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I've had a look over it and it appears that most images he uploaded were copyright violations. I can't give you any guarantees on all the remaining ones that haven't been deleted; chances are good, however, that they are copyright violations. I would recommend trying to track down the source of the image elsewhere on the net and see if you can establish their copyright status from that. Good luck. Stifle (talk) 20:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/List of conductors[edit]

How did you reach the conclusion that "the result was delete," for List of conductors? At the time you declared the result, the head count 5-4, which sounds like "no consensus" to me. The 9th person voted "delete." If you'd waited a little less time it would have been a 4-4 tie. If you'd waited a little more time it might have been a 5-5 tie. NCdave 01:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Counting the nominator it was 6-4 at closing, and the delete arguments were more convincing than the keep arguments. AFD isn't a vote. Also, if I'd waited a little more time it might have been a 10-4 result; that argument goes both ways. You're welcome to refer the matter to Wikipedia:Deletion review if you disagree with my call on the debate. Stifle (talk) 18:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

List of unreleased songs by Kylie Minogue[edit]

Hi; I requested that the content of this article be moved to the wikia annex if it was deleted from wikipedia. If you did move the content, could you give me a link to it? If not, could you send me the content directly so that I can move it there myself? (In the latter case, why didn't you contact me?) Thanks, Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 18:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I have not moved it over, because I don't have the time/inclination to transfer the list of authors and contributors which would be required to comply with the GFDL. You are welcome to, and to facilitate that I've restored the content to User:Tlogmer/Kylie. Once you've transferred it you can delete that userspace page using {{db-author}}. Stifle (talk) 18:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Kanzul Iman[edit]

Plz iscuss it with me on Talk Page as it MostImportant Dcuument of Barelwi Movement. Like Other Translations it has also right to be There.Hope u will resolve the Matter. User:Shabiha 12:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any citations from independent reliable sources that confirm this? If so, please add them to the page. Please note that you are entitled to remove the {{dated prod}} template from the page if you wish. Stifle (talk) 12:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of AaRON ??[edit]

Hi, why did you delete the article about AaRON (french music band), a band that made a song which was n°1 on iTunes for 1 month? Did it lack notoriety? thanks

pumpkin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pumpkin (talkcontribs) 12:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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AaRON was deleted because it met the criteria for speedy deletion, in that it was an article about a band which did not specify the notoriety or importance of the band. Wikipedia has a guideline for the requirements for inclusion of bands, and I do not think AaRON meets this requirement.
There was no mention of this no. 1 status on the page, and neither was there any citations.
I am satisfied that it was correct to delete this article but if you are still not happy you can enter a listing at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Stifle (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Dear administrator, I do not understand the deletion of the second version of the article. I modified it and it clearly mentionned the notoriety of the band, meeting the requirement specified in WP:NMG (national tours, rotation on main radios, position in charts, millions of streaming on YouTube...). I will check out the deletion review
best regards.
An editor has asked for a deletion review of AaRON. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Pumpkin 17:04, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Here are a few more facts and references :
  • made a national (and european) tour : [8]
  • First album certified double gold record : MCM
  • Song used as a central element in "Je vais bien, ne t'en fais pas", a movie having an article in wikipedia (thus, considered notable)
  • Millions of streaming on YouTube (1.156.805 september 30th) YouTube
  • Press articles in mainstream french newspapers (Le Monde, L'Express, Le Parisien) [9]
Pumpkin 18:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Football League One 2007-08[edit]

I thought it would be a good idea to add more detail on a seperate article for football league one this season such as a results grid and top goalscorers on a seperate article. Can you please tell me why have you just deleted my work? Smithy33 12:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I have not deleted Football league one 2007-08, merely redirected it. The content is still here, but Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. You are encouraged to write about minor leagues on your own website, but it is not an appropriate article for Wikipedia. Stifle (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

US Petrochemical[edit]

I am also trying to create a page on US Petrochemical. It is protected, how do I go about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Achtungberlin (talkcontribs) 15:05, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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US Petrochemical has been deleted because it is an article about a company which does not explain how the company is notable. If you would like to recreate it, then you will need to explain, and prove, its notability. The method to do this would be to create the page Talk:US Petrochemical with the text {{editprotected}} and a detailed explanation of why the article should be included, which should contain citations from relable sources so that the article will be verifiable.
Finally, I notice that a large number of people with very few edits in other fields have attempted to edit that article. You should be aware that this may appear to violate the sockpuppet policy and single-purpose accounts are generally viewed with suspicion on Wikipedia. Your contributions are wecome, but make sure you read the linked policies and the one on conflicts of interest. Stifle (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I am new to Wikipedia but will try to undestand how it should be done because I think some of your Administrators seem to have shown heavy handedness in this regard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Achtungberlin (talkcontribs) 02:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar[edit]

Thanks for the barnstar (although it's a little unorthodox to award one for a judgment call on an AfD). Thanks also for the support at DRV; not sure at this stage whether the deletion will be endorsed, but I believe I did the right thing per WP policy. WaltonOne 18:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)