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Hello Sudhirbhargava, I appreciate your good efforts of expanding the page Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya, but the citations which you have mentioned are from books which appear to have a glorifying and biased tone. This tone is fine for a biography but is unencyclopaedic and unsuitable for Wikipedia. Please read Neutral point of view/FAQ and also the Talk page of Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya for contesting my POV arguments. Edits should be made only when a neutral point is agreed upon. I also made some grammar and punctuation corrections, I guess you should be ok with those. Please keep up the good work of adding useful info, but please also try to maintain Wiki standards. Salilb (talk) 03:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrongful deletion of content in Manusmrti[edit]

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AfD nomination of Hem Chander Vikramaditya[edit]

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Battle for Delhi[edit]

Can you copyedit the WP:LEAD section of the article Battle for Delhi please? If you have any question or comments, please leave me a message in my talk page! Thanks for your contribution! --Tito Dutta 05:13, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I have replied in my talk page! --Tito Dutta 07:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I have replied in my talk page! --Tito Dutta 08:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Add WP:LEAD --Tito Dutta 06:57, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

New message[edit]

You have a new message in my talk page! --Tito Dutta 10:40, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

What's up?[edit]

Long time. No chat! What's up? How are you doing? --Tito Dutta 17:07, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Brahmavarta[edit]

Do you mean this http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/77176/Brahmavarta? Have you checked if we have an article already! --Tito Dutta 14:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC) There is no page on 'Brahmavarta' on Wiki. Also there is no information available even on Britannica. I was trying to create a page, but could not. Please advise how to go about it.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 14:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Why you could not create the page? Error message? --Tito Dutta 14:45, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

In the past I created couple of pages, like Dhosi Hill, Battle for Delhi. The pages opened easily. I do not know why I am not able to open 'Brahmavarta'. Please advise how to go about it.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:05, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Unless you find exact article link, you can unlink those! Best, Tito Dutta 04:42, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Vedic period[edit]

Hi Sudhir, I've reverted your edits to the article on Vedic period. Please don't add mythological dates and content to historical articles. Almost all historical sources agree that India was in Stone Age before 7th millenium BCE, whereas, Rig Veda is a text of the Chalcolithic Age. Adding "10,000 years ago" and "great floods" as the origin of Vedic period not only contradicts scholarly opinion, it makes Wikipedia look silly. I see you've interacted with Tito before. If need a second opinion on this, you can always ask him. Regards. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 02:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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Ayurveda[edit]

Thanks for your note. And for your efforts to fix the issues and add sources. I hope you will read the policy that I pointed to. Let's continue discussion of your proposed addition on the Ayurveda Talk page. TimidGuy (talk) 10:56, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Swami Vivekananda[edit]

Thank you for participating Sudhir Ji. Keep an eye on User talk:Titodutta#Swami Vivekananda FAR. When we take the article to Feature Article Review, I will inform you. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 16:28, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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2013[edit]

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Hello Sudhirkbhargava: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 15:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


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Happy New Year! -- Tito Dutta (talk) 15:52, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Image deletion issues[edit]

Could you reply at at the deletion discussion as to how you obtained the image of Lord Rama. If the image is photographed from an existing art work, it would make the image a derivative work and the copyright would become harder to establish. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 10:15, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

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Ayurveda[edit]

Just to be clear, in our discussion at WP:RSN I didn't mean Kulbhushan Mishra was irrelevant. What I meant was that his paper Dancing Elements of Indian Rock Painting with Special Reference to Chhattisgarh in Journal of the Directorate of Culture & Archaeology was irrelevant to our discussion on Ayurveda since the paper is about Rock paintings. It however would be a reliable source for any discussion related to rock art. I'll refrain from commenting further at RSN. Let me make way for other uninvolved editors who are experienced at dealing with issues of reliability of sources. Regards. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 12:16, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussions pertain to dating of Rigveda, Vedic Period as well as Ayurveda or Chyavanprash, which I claimed to be 10,000 years old on wiki pages, and have been claiming in different seminars on Saraswati or Vedic state of Brahmavarta. I-SERVE also ratifies that Vedic Period and Saraswati culture existed 10,000 years ago. Study by Mr. Misra analyses paintings which are older than 10,000 years. So they become important in dating of Indian Culture and other information.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 12:32, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, he connects paintings to dating of Rig Veda in his I–SERVE presentation, but he doesn't appear to make that connection in an earlier paper on Indian Rock Painting in Chhatisgarh. That is why I called that paper irrelevant (for our purposes) but reliable. His I-SERVE paper is relevant but unreliable. That's my take, will wait for other editors. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 12:41, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Talk Page of Ayurveda[edit]

I could not understand which section you were talking about, I have posted a reply. Let me know if it was not the correct one! --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:48, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your note[edit]

It looks like the discussion at RSN has taken an interesting turn since you posted on my Talk page. I'm afraid there's not much support for using the conference proceedings as sources. Peer-reviewed publications are the best sources. TimidGuy (talk) 11:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hemu article problems[edit]

It seems that there has been a lot of slow edit-warring going on at Hemu, in which you have played a part. I have reverted the article to its state prior to that and I ask that you discuss the seemingly controversial aspects of it at Talk:Hemu. Batting the same content ball back and forth without any meaningful discussion is never going to achieve anything. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Purana Qila[edit]

Hi, thanks for improving the article. Is it indeed a fact that there was a fort at the site prior to the time of Humayun/Sher Shah Suri? Not challengoing your edit, just curious. Please tell me anything more that you know when you get the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.14.31.76 (talk) 05:37, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hemu's caste[edit]

A lot of thanks Sudhir ji for highlighting the character and life of Hemu, unsung hero of Indian history, on Wikipedia. As far as Hemu's caste is concerned, Brahmins and Vaishyas, both claim him their ancestor. When it comes to the fact, that Hemu was Vaishya, you can visit Wikipedia article "Gumnaam Vikramaditya", in which the writer of this book has cited several references to prove him Vaishya. Though, I know, you are trying to prove Hemu Brahmin and there may also be some references. It, after all, enhances the glory of Hemu. Mohangarg21 (talk) 04:54, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hemu[edit]

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I am finding it difficult to manage and retain in good form some more important pages, like HEMU, BHARGAVA, REWARI etc. which I created and contributed sufficiently. So no fun in creating another page which will be spoiled by editors later on. BRAHMAVARTA, was an important state in India 10,000 years ago, which was the place for launching Vedic Sanskriti and Sanatan Dharm as per Sanskrit Granths.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 03:49, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Hemu And His Times[edit]

Do you have a copy of this book by ML Bhargava that you have referenced on Talk:Hemu? As you say, it seems to contain detailed discussion (about various theories?) of Hemu's origins and early life in the first chapter, and I would be interested in reading that if possible. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 15:54, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I do have a copy. Can scan first 18 relevent pages, which pertain to heredity, parentage, caste, etc. Send me email id. regards.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 17:22, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
That would be great!
To avoid spam, I won't print out my email ID here, but you can email me through wikipedia, (click here); that form may not allow attachments but I can reply to you with my email). Of course, we should keep our general discussion about the article on wiki where other editors can weigh in. Abecedare (talk) 17:34, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for emailing me the scanned pages. I'll go through them and the other sources, and add my thoughts to Talk:Hemu later this week. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 15:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Shell wait for your thoughts.Regards.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:59, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Sudhir, can you let us know if Nilotpalbera1990 (talk · contribs) is your account, or of someone you know? If so, could you revert the recent changes made by that account on Hemu pending the discussion on the talkpage, since such use of multiple accounts is frowned upon on wikipedia. (aside: I have read the ML Bhargava abstract and intend to post my views by Saturday once I have had the chance to look up a couple of other sources) Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 15:16, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Neither it is my account nor I know the person. Please do not expect such irresponsible acts from me. This page I am caring and protecting since 2008 and waiting for concensus on certain issues.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:51, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Sudhir, I have asked the Checkuser to run a check (you are welcome to comment there). I am sincerely hoping that you are not involved, in which case the CU should be able to confirm that, and we can proceed with the discussion after perhaps getting the Hemu page semi-protected to prevent further disruption from anon-editors and newly created accounts. Abecedare (talk) 20:46, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
FWIW, I am now convinced that Nilotpalbera1990 is not you and have said is in an update on the checkuser page. Hope this didn't cause you much aggravation. Abecedare (talk) 00:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Ten days have gone. I am still waiting for discussions to go further. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 04:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, got distracted by other on- and off-wiki activities, and the Hemu page slipped off my radar. Will poist my thought on Talk:Hemu by this weekend. Abecedare (talk) 14:48, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Shall wait, Thanks.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 16:25, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping on my talk page. The fact is that while I have read several sources on the subject by now, there are some standard works that I would like to see before forming a firm opinion. That's the reason for the delay. However, you are right that I shouldn't leave others hanging in the discussion, especially since I may be able to get hold of those reference works only by December. So I'll summarize what I have seen so far, and my tentative conclusions/suggestions this weekend on the Hemu talk page. I appreciate your and Sitush's patience! Abecedare (talk) 17:28, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Its Okay.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 03:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

After a long delay, I have at last posted my analysis of the sources and proposed text for the early life section on the Hemu Talk page. Comments are welcome. Thanks for your patience during this process; hope we can continue working in such collaborative and accommodating fashion. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 23:45, 20 October 2013 (UTC)