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Please do the following when posting on my page(I will ignore your comment if you don't follow these simple rules):

1) Post new sections at the bottom of the page.

2) PLEASE LINK TO YOUR ARTICLE, I go through a myriad of pages a day, I won't know what you're talking about unless you link your article.

3) Please don't request me to re-review your article unless I've specifically asked you to do so. AfC is incredibly backlogged and someone will get to it when they can.

I welcome anyone to comment or reply to others on my page, but please be kind and if their post breaks one of the above three rules, please ignore them as well.

Submission 3 Article[edit]

Hello, I have improved and created three articles, please review. (talk) 08:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft Review[edit]

Now i have done changes and corrected the things now you can review my draft at User:Vk0426/sandbox Vk0426 (talk) 07:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

LSG Software[edit]

I resbummited the page with sources from Use Journal, CIO Journal and the RIMS conference, one of the largest legal conferences in the U.S. It was initially declined for a lack of references, so I have added in another 3. Softwaresavvy, Softwaresavvy added 14:01, March 26th, 2020 (EST)

2022 Ohio gubernatorial race[edit]

I submitted it again with including the mayor of Dayton, Nan Whaley, and more references. You declined the article for being too soon, however other articles of this are present with other states with even less information are up. Your reason is valid, but Cranley ((Cincinnati Mayor) will most likely announce his full candidacy soon. Other people have made their own articles with less information which is why I am asking for this one to be made. Sksksks hydroflask, Sksksks hydroflask added 12:34, March 2nd, 2020 (EST)

Kindly check the re-submission. AfC: Vinu Kolichal PS: Additional References and External Links are added.[edit]

Link for Draft:

Submission declined on 29 February 2020 by Sulfurboy (talk). This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. If you would like to continue working on the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window. If you have not resolved the issues listed above, your draft will be declined again and potentially deleted. If you need extra help, please ask us a question at the AfC Help Desk or get live help from experienced editors. Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted. Where to get help How to improve your article Editor resources Declined by Sulfurboy 30 hours ago. Last edited by Filmfanatic28 9 hours ago. Reviewer: Inform author. This draft has been resubmitted and is currently awaiting re-review.[edit]

Sulfurboy--thanks so much for the very personal response. I agree with your critique of the article, am trying to locate other articles that appeared in the Houston Chronicle, WSJ, and the Austin Statesman. It must be a headache to handle all the new page reviews. Hopefully my article wasn't _too_ riddled with errors. Thanks again, your Texas cheerleading is most appreciated. :)

Dr. George Ambartsoumian[edit]

Hi Sulfurboy, thank you for giving time to review my first page for Dr. George Ambartsoumian. As you are familiar I am new and the learning curve of wikipedia is pretty steep for me. I really appreciate if you can help me with some more recommendations on my chosen article. Thank you in advance for your mentorship! --Junaidbusn170/sandbox (talk) 13:29, 10 March 2020 (EST)

Draft:Rini Yun Keagy[edit]

Hello there. Wanted to clarify that this article that I created a few days ago was intentionally left as a stub article. We are currently hosting a Wikipedia Edit-A-Thon at St Olaf College, and students at the college are going to be spending time with this article and adding more sources to it. The students themselves were unable to make a new page, as they had never edited an article before, so I simply created an article and added some preliminary text for the purposes of publishing the page. I understand there are many missing citations and lack of sources; this is fully intentional on my part so that these students can practice the research and citation process for underrepresented artists such as Keagy. It would be helpful if this page could be moved out of drafts so that they are more easily able to access the article and add their citations. Thank you. (lngracie (talk) 12:45, 10 March 2020 (CST))


Hi I did the stuff you thought would make the article better and added some more stuff and there logo. Can you please check again

Submission for Enyo Sam declined[edit]

Hello, please can you point out corrections to make?

Queens is the Future[edit]

I have a few questions about your review of my page (I'm new to Wikipedia so forgive me):

Is it ok to cite YouTube for sentences where the video itself is the subject of the claim (eg "the mural appears heavily in the documentary")?

Is it ok to cite the YouTube video that is an interview with the artists themselves for sentences about the artists' intentions?

Thank you for your help!

Kfon83 (talk) 18:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Kfon83, So ideally YouTube is avoided whenever possible. There are certain instances when it makes sense. A good example might be an article about a song and someone points out that a music video was created for it citing the artist's YouTube video for the music video. However, what you are trying to use it for is a bit troubling. For example, stating "the mural appears heavily in the documentary" is a subjective opinion derived from a video. What exactly is heavily? Was it appearing in a routine manner or in coverage of it? Etc. All those would require subjective conclusions.
The other problem with YouTube is verifiability and reliability. Just because something is said in YouTube video, even a well made documentary does not mean it is in fact true. Anyone can say anything in a YouTube video since there typically is no editorial oversight. It can be used to cite something a subject says about themselves, but that wouldn't work towards proving notability.
Hope that makes sense and isn't too convoluted. Let me know if you have further questions. Sulfurboy (talk) 05:41, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy, following up:

What about when the stated thing is a verifiable fact one can see with one's eyes? They are not talking about the mural, it's a visible landmark in the video. Something like "the mural appears heavily" is stated as such because, when you watch the video, you can see the mural in the background of most of the shots. Would a simple restatement of this be acceptable? Such as "the mural can be seen in the documentary for..."?

And if a YouTube video is cited by other media outlets with editorial oversight, does that legitimize the source? For example, the NY Times mentions the documentary video here:

And the other YouTube video is the artists talking about their first-hand experience of making the mural. It is not reportage but first-hand recounting from the source. Does this help to clear things up with that link? What is required if not? Kfon83 (talk) 13:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Kfon83, To you first question, again it is an opinion that is derived from watching the documentary, it doesn't matter how obvious or correct it is.
No, a source mentioning a documentary that has editorial oversight doesn't mean that the documentary itself has editorial oversiht.
That's okay, but discouraged. Also, an interview such as that does not help to denote notability of the subject Sulfurboy (talk) 14:02, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Nemanja Jovanovic article review[edit]

Hi Sulfurbuy, I'm writing about your denial of this draft I have edited Wikipedia:NBASKETBALL to include coaches from First Serbian League where Nemanja worked as part of KK Crvena zvezda, so this should be sufficient now. In External resources, there is a link to a source where coaching careers can be checked. Also, I have stated many different sources throughout the article which should be enough for at least Wikipedia:GNG Moreover I have official confirmation letter from KK Crvena zvezda where everything from the article is stated and confirmed with the seal and signature. The only thing is I don't know how to use this kind of proof here in wikipedia. Any thoughts on how to take this further?

Thanks in advance, Marko

Markomarkovic1980 (talk) 22:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@Markomarkovic1980: I have reverted your edit at WP:NSPORTS as it is a Notability Guideline. In order to change Wikipedia guidelines, you must first garner a general consensus from other editors. Changing acceptance guidelines in order to make a subject meet a guideline is unacceptable. If repeated, it could be viewed as disruptive editing, so I highly advise against it. Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 00:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
That is the first time that I have heard of editing a Special Notability Guideline in order to get an article into article space. It might or might not be the last time. Don't stuff that variety of bean in the ears of your puppy. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Robert McClenon, You sort of have to admire the temerity. I'm not even mad, that's amazing. Sulfurboy (talk) 05:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Right. The music editor is trying to play by the rules and just wants the rules to allow their songs to have articles. Enthusiasm. This sports editor was tweaking the rule, until they were told not to do that. There is no rule that says not to change the rules. That is like telling the boy not to feed beans to the ducks. At least, we hadn't thought that we needed a rule not to change the rules to get your person an article. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:00, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
It happens more often than you would think with sports. I think my favorite was some kid tried to add a local event where he won so that he would not have his own page deleted. Yosemiter (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Have either of you guys actually read what I have changed in WP:NSPORTS? Your are commenting my draft article and not the notability change. Just to point you in the right direction, I have added Basketball League of Serbia along side other notable leagues. Among notable leagues are Australian and Israeli basketball leagues which in no way can compare to Serbian baskteball league. To support this fact you can check Serbia national basketball team medals and compare them to thesse two "notable leagues". Also, for comparing are NBA players that come from these countries and NBA hall of fame members. So, to summirize I have changed notability criterion by adding stronger notability league then those existing, therefore improving the WP:NSPORTS. If you disagree with adding Serbian league to the notability cretirea then you should edit WP:NSPORTS in a way of removing at least those 2 notable leagues (Australian and Israeli) to make them more notable. Please guys, focus on the subject, let's discuss the WP:NSPORTS and when we settle this let's then continue the talk about the drafted article of mine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markomarkovic1980 (talkcontribs)
@Markomarkovic1980: It is not about whether the the Serbian league should or should not be there. It is that you do not have the power (nor does any one else) to unilaterally change any guidelines on Wikipedia. This must be done via WP:CONSENSUS. In order to change or add it to the guideline, you need to make a proposal to the community, as was done at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball/Archive_10#Revised_WP:NHOOPS_guideline and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball/Archive_10#Recent_WP:NHOOPS_changes. But please note, having better players than another league has very little to do with Wikipedia:Notability, and has entirely to do with the independent media coverage of the league. In my observations, both Australia and Israel cover their sports leagues very well, but I don't know enough about Serbian media coverage of their sports leagues to say they are equivalent or better. If you go forward with your proposal of adding, please be prepared to defend how a player who has made a single appearance in a Serbian League game meets WP:GNG (that is why the French league is not on there, and they too have won medals as a national team). Yosemiter (talk) 18:52, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yosemiter Thank you for this answer it makes things much clearer for me. I will have no problem defending adding Serbian league to WP:NSPORTS. Althou, I really hope that media coverage is not the only critera but the success of players and coaches and actual quality of the league. Of course it will be on community to decide. Thank you, again Markomarkovic1980 (talk) 20:54, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Markomarkovic1980, WP:SIGCOV is the requirement of ALL Wikipedia subjects. The success of players and coaches and the "quality of the league" has little to no bearing on notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yosemiter What about the written sources, how are they presented to wikipedia reviewers? Markomarkovic1980 (talk) 09:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Markomarkovic1980, You need to clarify your question as I am not sure what it is you're trying to ask Sulfurboy (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Sulfurboy This is not related to this topic, I'm asking in general how written sources are being dealt with on Wikipedia? For example, article is written about someone and I want to present it as an evidence of someone's notability, how would I show this article that is in printed press? Markomarkovic1980 (talk) 15:09, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Markomarkovic1980 I would start with going to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball and make the proposal (per WP:PROPOSAL). You will need to provide evidence that someone who has made just one appearance in one game meets the General Notability Guideline. You need independent media coverage with significant depth from multiple sources. If you want an easier path, maybe try to get the league added to NHOOPS#3 by showing the award winners meet GNG. Yosemiter (talk) 13:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Markomarkovic1980, As should be obvious by now, you cannot just adjust notability standards to fit your needs. Unfortunately, it does not look like the subject is notable at this time. Sulfurboy (talk) 05:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


I carefully reviewed every single source I found for the Life of Kiki Bello. I've been working on this for months!! Please let me know what else do I need to make sure it does not get declined again? Thank you!

Addressed on draft page Sulfurboy (talk) 18:14, 28 March 2020 (PDT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilyscandiuzzi (talkcontribs)

National Aquaculture Group (NAQUA)[edit]

Hi Sulfurboy, I am working as employee under NAQUA. I was just trying to add company information. Regards, Yawar Nawaz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ynawaz (talkcontribs) 11:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

re: Tessier deletion[edit]

"Deletion nominations rarely improve articles, and deletion should not be used as a way to improve an article." If you can't find articles about Tessier it's because you haven't looked in order to improve the page first. Try Lexis/Nexis. The LA Times, Claremont Courier and Inland Valley Daily Bulletin all have numerous articles and quotes from him regarding the city of Pomona, the largest in LA county. He is the single most quoted and respected authority in the area. If all the LA County newspapers treat him as a regular source and authority for comment on the area, he's clearly notable. LA TIMES San Gabriel edition COVERY STORY: "Downtown Visionary". He has higher recognition and accolades than any other public figure in the area. › archives › la-xpm-1995-01-26-ga-24587-story › archives › la-xpm-1995-02-05-me-28374-story › articles › news › t28977-cap › articles › news › t25139-house Tessier is a public success in his locality over decades and is duly noted in local press because of it. Tessier has served or now serves as a Board Trustee for Western University of Health Sciences (the largest employer in Pomona), president of Pomona’s Central Business District Association, Chair of the City of Pomona Planning Commission, and is a member of the Pomona Leadership Forum, the LA County Fair Directors Association, the Pomona Community Foundation, and is the founding and current president of the School of Arts and Enterprise in Pomona. Better to update the page rather than delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

I have no idea what this is supposed to be asking Sulfurboy (talk) 12:22, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Phillip Sarofim[edit]

Hello, I was curious as to get some more information about why Phillips Saraofim's page isn't going through. We have articles on him from prominent sources and have identified ourselves as a paid contributer. Some help would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sy331 (talkcontribs) 13:38, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Sy331, I have no interest in volunteering my time to help you get paid for yours. All applicable policies are found in the decline messages. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)


Hi, in your cleanup you didn't spot the misplaced stub tag at the top of the article (you added one in right place at bottom). I've fixed it, just mentioning as yet another thing to look out for in careless drafts. Happy editing! PamD 14:22, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

PamD, Whoops! Didn't see it. Thanks. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:26, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft : Suresh Sharma (activist)[edit]

What happen are you unable to open the links which i mention of The Hindu Alekh99 (talk) 14:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

For The Hindu news article you have to sign up and then sign in then you will be able to see the article . Alekh99 (talk) 14:50, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Please tell what led you to decline the page . I will fix Alekh99 (talk) 15:40, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Please reply for my query Alekh99 (talk) 04:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Akif Ekin[edit] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwiki9820 (talkcontribs) 18:06, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sulfurboy,

I will appreciate your support for improving and publishing this article.

Thank you,

Best regards,


Suggestions for how to improve the article were provided in the decline messages. Did you have a question about any of those specific policies? Sulfurboy (talk) 19:59, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Submission got deleted[edit]


My new submission got deleted may i know why was it refused because i have referenced everything i"ve said

Overly promotional vanity page that is not welcome here. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:40, 30 March 2020 (UTC)


Just to say thankyou for being so good on my first-page submission, it got rejected and its super clear as to why, much appreciated, have learnt a lot and look forward to furthering my contributions. Ukdatageek (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Joe Seddon[edit]

Hello Sulfurboy, I just wondered whether you could give me some more feedback on the article I submitted. I feel it is written in a neutral tone and well sourced across a number of reputable news publications so I was wondering how you think the article be made more impartial? The subject matter of the article has been covered in the mainstream press for his work in the social impact sphere so much of the article inevitably concentrates on those areas. I don't think this makes the article partial in any way given the objective tone in which it is covered. But let me know if you think otherwise! Doogierev (talk) 23:59, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Southeast Asia Regional Centre for Counter-Terrorism (SEARCCT), Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Malaysia[edit]

Hi, thanks for the feedback on my attempt to create a page for my organisation. The aim is to just give an overview of the Foreign Ministry's soft approach to counter-terrorism in the country. However, my first draft was seen as resembling an advertisement. I removed the "fancy" adjectives to make it seem less like self promotion but I am not quite sure what you may think.,_Ministry_of_Foreign_Affairs,_Malaysia

In addition, my agency's website is under construction so you may have some trouble going through it for referencing purposes.

I referred to the HQ (the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Malaysia) Wikipedia page here: It's quite straightforward and I feel, similar to the page I am trying to put up. It does not reference other than its website as well. I am not quite sure how Wikipedia would prefer referencing (I went through the guidelines) should the source be the organisation itself.

Appreciate your help.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Searcct2003 (talkcontribs) 01:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Searcct2003, I didn't create, approve or in anyway edit that other page, so I'm not sure why you are bringing it up. We are concerned with the page you are creating. Also concerning is your disclosure that you work for this organization. If this is the case then you need to properly disclose as a paid editor. I have posted details on your talk page Sulfurboy (talk) 02:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
But to further answer your question, we need to see the subject covered in a formal, neutral light; not how you or your organization perceive yourselves. This is best done by issuing secondary, reliable sources. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


Hello. My submission was declined with the reason "The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations." This doesn't tell me much about which material causes problems and I'm not sure how to fix the situation, as I have put references in my document. Am I missing details in the review that I didn't see aside from that generic message? Thanks. --Isaucier (talk) 03:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Isaucier, All claims within a BLP need to be supported by inline citations per the "generic message" Sulfurboy (talk) 04:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Submit draft[edit]

Good evening, i would like to submit Draft:Mohamed Islam Bouglia. Could i do that without any problem ? Chdondon1990 (talk) 08:46, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Resubmitted Vaibhav Maloo[edit]

Hello! My second submission for Draft: Vaibhav Maloo may have been hasty, I have re-edited the article on the draft page. Please check if it's alright now. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuttyprofessor2016 (talkcontribs) 21:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Vaidotas Žala[edit]

Hi, I found this article that someone created and got moved to drafts. I have cleaned up this article, but unsure how to submit it for review, I thought there should be a button, but there isn't one. Is that because I am not the creator of the article? You've reviewed one of my own drafts before, hence I'm turning to you. Wolfmartyn (talk) 14:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Wolfmartyn, Looks like it is already submitted for review and is in our queue awaiting review. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Okay, that would make sense. I could not see who has originally placed the article into drafts, can you? Are you in position to review this article? Wolfmartyn (talk) 14:54, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Wolfmartyn, It originated in draftspace, it hasn't been in mainspace before. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Jameson Wang[edit]

My submission was declined with the reason "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes)". Can you explain why?

Kindly check the revised article for actor Adonis Kapsalis[edit]

Hope you are well. When possible can you please have a look at the resubmitted article. All issues have been properly addressed as per other actors current pages and suggestions. Thanks in advance and stay safe! GP75S (talk) 21:39, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Change of fortune article[edit] Hi, a number of changes were made to this article that another editor asked for. Your opinion could be different. When you say it reads nothing like a Wikipedia article, I wonder if you're referring to the fact that (1) the content doesn't appear to you to come from a third-party source; or (2) it looks like an obscure scholarly topic that isn't notable, or may not be talked about in academic journals often enough. It has not been talked about in the media.

I look forward to knowing if your declining is due to the tone, structure, appearance of original research, lack of notability, or all of the above. What makes it not original research is that it is a historical narrative that has been accounted for fully by another writer, named Arata Takeda. The things that Takeda doesn't mention could be removed. I don't know if that helps, though. If most Wikipedia editors find this idea not notable enough, at this point I have no problem dropping the idea. Thanks.Cdg1072 (talk) 22:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 22:23:26, 1 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Numurus[edit]

Numurus (talk) 22:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 22:31:47, 1 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Numurus[edit]

I am looking for help on my page about Jason Seawall. The reasoning for being declined was fairly broad, it would really help if I knew what specifically needed to be improved such as the writing style, sources, or maybe both. I would really like to get this page approved, so any additional help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Numurus (talk) 22:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Numurus (talk) 22:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Numurus, Please see WP:PERSUASIVE. The whole thing reads like a brag page on the subject. Wikipedia is not he place to post someone's CV. The article was borderline on just being outright rejected. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason[edit]

Dear Wikipedia ,

I want to submit simple article . i followed all the standards of the wikipedia article writing but still declined . Can you please define , why this is happening ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahnawaz rules (talkcontribs) 15:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

About Draft:James Haworth[edit]

Hi, I would like to know more about why the Draft (James Haworth) was declined?
I have since made my response to the original decline clear beneath the comments. Please read and get back to me soon.
Thanks for your time @Sulfurboy --Cavan Hill (talk) 16:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Cavan.hill, There's still a heavy reliance on unreliable sources and/or sources that do not denote notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft:2019 Paradise Jam Tournament[edit] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geroulsm33 (talkcontribs) 21:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

I am not sure why the sources on this page this keep getting declined; it literally matches the sourcing for the 2018 Paradise Jam Tournament? When I changed references, I still didn't pass inspection, so I am genuinely at a loss. I'm clearly no wikipedia expert but I'm about to give up on contributing because I don't understand why my citations aren't valid and nothing seems to be sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geroulsm33 (talkcontribs) 21:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Geroulsm33, Please see WP:INN, just because the 2018 one exists means nothing here. You're welcome to nominate that page for deletion if you see fit. We need to see significant coverage from secondary sources to establish notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Beyond Better Foods Article - switch name?[edit]

Hi Sulfur Boy!

Appreciate the feedback about the Beyond Better Foods article. I wasn't sure whether to put an an article about the product, or the company which mentions the product, since they're always mentioned together. Would it make sense, and address this, to switch this title or article to be Enlightened ice cream itself? That feels like an advertisement, no?

The main thing is this definitely FEELS like it should be here since its clear its reach, impact, and distribution is so sizable. The product is available all over the country and has been reviewed and covered by many (these were just a handful) outlets and individuals. Nearly of those outlets are completely independent of the company - women's health, Nosh, Redbook, Popsugar, were just a few (I figured at some point it merited stopping). All of these are staking their claim with editorial integrity to their readers - giving opinions on a product, often what companies like Women's Health is known for. This much coverage certainly establishes some kind of notability, no?

What would you suggest? doing? Let me know if switching this to just Enlightened, and mentioned that its made by Beyond Better Foods) make more sense, or if you have an alternative suggestion.

Thanks! Articlegooroo (talk) 03:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sulfurboy!

Saw that you rejected the last go around and resubmission after multiple articles were put in there and reference illustrating significant coverage from third party sources of both beyond better foods and its products. This company, it’s founder and it’s products have been covered by nearly every media outlet - starting with the New York Times, women’s health, GQ, women’s fitness, Forbes, and industry mags like dairy reporter and food and beverage. What more is needed?

I’m sorry, I’m just a bit frustrated here as I’m looking at other articles that have been published in similar categories with far less sources and notoriety, so am confused. Caspers, Dreyers, Halo Top, Talenti, Pepperidge Farm, among MANY others. What am I missing?

Thanks! Articlegooroo (talk) 18:37, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Housing Development Article[edit]

Dear Sulfurboy ,

I submitted the article by following the Wikipedia standards but my article was declined by sulfurboy. I am a simple man . Can you please describe in simple words why you are declining again and again my article?

My article draft is

Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahnawaz rules (talkcontribs) 07:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Shahnawaz rules, We need to see WP:SIGCOV from secondary and reliable sources, per the message left in the declines. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Alex Ajipe[edit]

Hi Sulfurboy,

Your previous review of the page is been attended to and I'd love to seek your opinion about the new state of the page before I go ahead to resubmit.

Thanks as I await your kind response. Thisissegun (talk) 14:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 14:31:36, 3 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Zingaga bill[edit]

My draft for the Georgia Farmers and Consumers Market Bulletin was rejected for publication. After reading the explanation, I am still unclear why. If a trade publication like Metal Bulletin is approved ( what is the reasoning behind declining the Ga. Market Bulletin? It has a current Web page, published by a government entity, has an IBSN number, and references in media like the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Did I not provide enough references?

"The Market Bulletin was created as a free weekly periodical to advertise farm products for Georgia farmers. By 1923 the Market Bulletin enjoyed a weekly circulation of 100,000. When Brown left office in 1927, the periodical had the largest circulation in the country for a publication of its kind. The bulletin, known formally as The Farmers and Consumers Market Bulletin, remains in print as of 2006."

"Talmadge was overwhelmingly reelected in 1928 and 1930. He used the department's newspaper, the Market Bulletin, to give advice to farmers on how to improve their farming skills and operations. But more important, Talmadge used the Bulletin to express his views on political issues and to present himself as an outspoken advocate for the farmers. He extolled the virtues of a laissez-faire economic policy and individual action to improve the well-being of farmers." Electric versions of the Market Bulletin of current and archived issues

Zingaga bill (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

References are reliable sources[edit]

Dear SulfurBoy ,

My article is

I have provided 16 authentic and genuine references for my small article . Anyone who read my article can verify the article content from the official website of the housing development and can verify from any reference .

i request you to please approve my article . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahnawaz rules (talkcontribs) 15:23, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Shahnawaz rules, They are improperly formatted and nearly all of them are either not secondary or not reliable. Please see WP:REFB and WP:RS Sulfurboy (talk) 15:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
(by talk reader) @Shahnawaz rules: You give every appearance of being an advertiser. You are required by Wikipedia's Terms of Service to disclose your conflict of interest. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Chris troutman, WP:QUACK for sure. I've passed along a notice to their talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Rafael Almanza Alonso[edit]

Thank you for your answer about references in other languages (see bellow). According to WP:RS, could you please advise if the below references are not “reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy” in compliance with Wikipedia guidelines? Are six secondary sources not enough? Once again, I appreciate very much your help.

“Material such as an article, book, monograph, or research paper that has been vetted by the scholarly community is regarded as reliable, where the material has been published in reputable peer-reviewed sources or by well-regarded academic presses.”

Del Pozo, Ivania (2002). "El icono literario: Rafael Almanza". Espejo de vehemencia. Un viaje al Camagüey poético. Camagüey: Editorial Ácana. pp. 55, 56, 57, 61. ISBN 959-267-007-2.

Price, Rachel (2015). "Free Time". Planet/Cuba: Art, Culture and the Future of the Island. New York: Verso. pp. 128–140. ISBN 978-1-78478-122-4.

Manresa González, Carlos (2015). "Iconos, de Rafael Almanza Alonso: un nuevo caso de uso intencional del endecasílabo dactílico". Rhythmica. XIII (13): 97–127. doi:10.5944/rhythmica.16159

Manresa González, Carlos (2018). "Rimas en libertad: apuntes para un estudio de la rima libre o mezclada en la poesía cubana contemporánea". Rhythmica. XVI: 113–147.

López-Fernández, Laura; Garceran, Carlos M. (2019). "Experimental Cuban Poetry. A Digital Humanities Project. Story Map Journal".

“Completed dissertations or theses written as part of the requirements for a doctorate, and which are publicly available (most via interlibrary loan or from Proquest), can be used but care should be exercised, as they are often, in part, primary sources. Some of them will have gone through a process of academic peer reviewing, of varying levels of rigor, but some will not. If possible, use theses that have been cited in the literature; supervised by recognized specialists in the field; or reviewed by third parties.”

Manresa González, Carlos (2018). "El agon en Rafael Almanza; Iconos de Almanza: revisión del endecasílabo dactílico". La obedencia rebelde: Roberto Manzano, Rafael Almanza y Jesús David Curbelo, tres poetas contemporáneos ante el canon cubano (PhD). University of Montreal.

Hello, thanks you for your comments. Could you please advise if the below references are in compliance with Wikipedia guidelines? Are Spanish language references acceptable? If no, could you kindly point what needs to be done to complain? Do you prefer I to translate the references to English-language? I really appreciate very much your help.

1- One Doctoral Thesis of the University of Montreal: Manresa González, Carlos (2018). "El agon en Rafael Almanza; Iconos de Almanza: revisión del endecasílabo dactílico". La obedencia rebelde: Roberto Manzano, Rafael Almanza y Jesús David Curbelo, tres poetas contemporáneos ante el canon cubano (PhD). University of Montreal.

2- Two Books of a Distinguished Professor at Youngstown State University and an Associated Professor at Princeton University: Del Pozo, Ivania (2002). "El icono literario: Rafael Almanza". Espejo de vehemencia. Un viaje al Camagüey poético. Camagüey: Editorial Ácana. pp. 55, 56, 57, 61. ISBN 959-267-007-2. Price, Rachel (2015). "Free Time". Planet/Cuba: Art, Culture and the Future of the Island. New York: Verso. pp. 128–140. ISBN 978-1-78478-122-4.

3- Two Peer reviewed journal articles from the University of Sevilla in Spain: Manresa González, Carlos (2015). "Iconos, de Rafael Almanza Alonso: un nuevo caso de uso intencional del endecasílabo dactílico". Rhythmica. XIII (13): 97–127. doi:10.5944/rhythmica.16159 Manresa González, Carlos (2018). "Rimas en libertad: apuntes para un estudio de la rima libre o mezclada en la poesía cubana contemporánea". Rhythmica. XVI: 113–147.

4- One Research of a University of Waikato (NZ) researcher about Cuban Visual Poetry: López-Fernández, Laura; Garceran, Carlos M. (2019). "Experimental Cuban Poetry. A Digital Humanities Project. Story Map Journal".

5- Four Different magazine articles: Cino, Luis (October 16, 2018). "Rafael Almanza y el amor universal". Puente a la vista. Gina Picart (2009). "Eliseo Diego: el juego de dies o el ajedrez de la trascendencia". Constantín Ferreiro, Henry (2013). "La Peña de un Júcaro cada vez más recio". Convivencia. Pinar del Río. Escobar, Reinaldo (2018). "The Blasts of Rafael Almanza". Retrieved March 18, 2020

References in other languages is fine. You can find more information about reliable sources at WP:RSSulfurboy (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alefer72 (talkcontribs)

Alefer72 (talk) 21:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Alefer72, It wouldn't much make sense for me to judge sources in a language that I don't speak, you'll have to wait for another fluent reviewer to look at it. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Article rose Kirumira[edit]

Need help organising and submitting rose Kirumira article Alvinategyeka (talk) 22:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Taxonomy template?[edit]

You put a cleanup tag on Yaquinacetus that "taxonomy template needs to be fixed" but I'm not sure what is wrong with it. Could you be more specific and leave details on the talk page? Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 22:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

RJFJR, Hmm, it either got corrected in the accept cleanup or I mistagged it from seeing it on a couple others. Either way if you see a misplaced tag like that, always just feel free to remove it. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I wasn't sure if it might be some sort of data error. RJFJR (talk) 09:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Rejected page[edit]

My page has now been rejected. I was just thinking that because he is not notable enough yet why can’t it be a redirected page to the radio stations he works at e.g. Capital so when you search for him you get redirected to that. I have seen this before for example on the page The X Factor UK there is a small section about the former spin off show The Xtra Factor which only has a few lines so when you search for it you get taken to the main page. Evan.Slater (talk) 10:25, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Authentic , Genuine and verifiable References[edit]

Dear SulfurBoy,

i have carefully studied the article you refered to me . I started writing article after carefully studying all the relevant articles.

My Article Draft is

My article consists of one tiny line "Lahore Motorway City is a housing estate project" . i gave 16 references which are currently available online . All these references are verifiable from the sources.

This is so strange that you think that 16 Authentic , Genuine and verifiable References only for one line article are not reliable for you . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahnawaz rules (talkcontribs) 12:07, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Shahnawaz rules, Yeah you clearly haven't read the applicable policies if you think all 16 of those are authentic, genuine and verifiable. You're also missing the most key element which is that those sources show significant, non-routine coverage. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft for 'Brave'[edit]

Hey, I've submitted my draft for Joyryde's album Brave, but you have been VERY quick to decline it both times. You mention that the references are just blogs and promotional sites, but they're clearly not. I've been careful on where I get my references from, and sites like Your EDM, Dancing Astronaut, EDM Sauce, Billboard, etc, are all good news sites that have editorial oversight. I put an entire list on the talk page if you want to see their staff. Are there any exact sites you have issues with? Micro (Talk)

Draft for "Joseph Bae"[edit]

Thank you for your feedback on my first attempt at a Wikipedia article Draft:Joseph Bae. I am writing for more targeted advice on my references. I am writing about a finance executive who is referenced by name in three different Wikipedia articles (articles for KKR, Exor, Janice Y. K. Lee all reference Bae) and who is a public figure via his philanthropy (he might be worth listing under notable Harvard alums). In my research, I drew from the following sources: Wall Street Journal, Reuters, New York Times, Forbes, and Bloomberg, as well as the KKR website for basic biographical information. All these sources discussed Bae by name and in depth.

Should I look for more references? Or make better use of the ones I have? Or are these major news organizations not neutral enough?

Thank you in advance for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brick the golden (talkcontribs) 17:05, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Brick the golden, None of those sources show coverage of the subject that is either in depth or apart from being WP:ROUTINE except maybe the wedding vows article and that's not going to be enough. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
@Sulfurboy: I included several articles from widely distributed publications that I don't think can be considered routine coverage. Specifically, Reuters' "Exclusive: KKR Asia business architect Bae to return to U.S." and "KKR names Bae, Nuttall as co-presidents in step toward succession"; Private Equity International's "Bae's Rise to the Top of KKR"; Harvest's "Teamwork at the Top: In Conversation With KKR’s Joseph Bae and Scott Nuttall". While not in the headline, he's discussed quite a bit in the NYT article "K.K.R. Lays Out a Line of Succession, a Rare Move in Private Equity". I'm not trying to be obstinate, I just think it's clear that he's been covered in the media repeatedly, more so than many other business people who do have Wikipedia pages. Are the articles I reference above really routine coverage, akin to sports or wedding announcements? And does the subject not clear the bar of notability, "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject."?

Catmonk (talk) 22:28, 5 April 2020 (UTC) Review of Candid (band) article - some points that may be of note[edit]

Catmonk (talk) 22:28, 5 April 2020 (UTC) Hello Sulfurboy, thank you for looking at the article I have been writing on the English band Candid - Please correct me if I am wrong but I think that the main issue with the article is the question of notability. I am hoping that the subject of the article (the band Candid) is notable as Candid meet a number of the notability Criteria for musicians and ensembles that are listed here - The criteria in question are 10 (Candid's music has featured the TV show "Made In Chelsea"), 12 (Candid are currently Band of the month on BBC Introducing and have had song of the week on BBC also) and 6 (Candid came first place in the "Godiva Calling" music competition). There is also an argument that could be made for 7 (most representative indie band in Coventry having sold out a 900 capacity venue). As for criterion 1 (has been the subject of mulitiple publications) - the band have been reviewed by many online magazines but also profiled in the Coventry Telegraph newspaper and its online version the Coventry Observer. I have only just included the article - and I wonder will it make a difference. I would be grateful if you could tell me whether or not my article would have more success if Candid successfully meet the criteria above. If it would, might you please be able to advise me on what I can do in order to prove that they meet these criteria? Many thanks - Catmonk

Those criteria (many of which you misinterpreted) are just an indication of when a band MIGHT be notable. The truth is none of the sources you provided show indepth coverage to pass the WP:GNG standard. Further, you have a heavy reliance on a lot of unreliable sources. I would recommend reviewing WP:RS Sulfurboy (talk) 22:39, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft page "André Freire"[edit]

Dear Sulfurboy,

Thank you very much for your revision on the page I'm working on (see it here: However, I'd like to make a request, if you could oblige me.

In order to be published, it says on it that I should: 1 - Use the quotations as footnotes; 2 - Use a formal tone and a neutral point of view.

Could you point me, more specifically, what may be wrong, within the text, when it comes to the neutral point of view? The information I put there is completely factual (I'm using the author's institutional CV, at his university). Also, I tried to put the references whenever I thought necessary. Maybe I should use more of them?

Thank you very much!


KaiserViriatus (Viriato Queiroga) KaiserViriatus (talk) 01:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

KaiserViriatus, Wikipedia is not a directory or place to post someones CV and work history. First you need to review WP:MOS for how to properly format an article. I would then heavily condense all of the publications to those most relevant, something like his five to 10 most cited works. Also, all of the external links need to be removed from the body of the article and integrated as references and inline citations if applicable. This article is a LONG way from getting accepted. Sulfurboy (talk) 04:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 05:07:42, 6 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by 6witha5wing[edit]

Can you please point out to me what the "unreliable sources" are in this article? I am in good faith trying to use only mainstream, reliable sources and am failing to see how there are "too many"? Thanks for any advice.

6witha5wing (talk) 05:07, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

6witha5wing, Please review WP:RS Sulfurboy (talk) 05:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)