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Z Experimental Station[edit]

Summerdrought,

I have let User:Specopsaust know that the Z Experimental Station needs references and to improve that page. Are you able to help with it as well. I've only got 1 week left before I go on holidays. But I will have access to the Internet. Adamdaley (talk) 09:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply on my talkpage about the above message. I am also able to help with a reference or two, possibly add little extra information about Z Experimental Station. My additions to the article will be after I come back on July 13th. Give me a day to recover from the flights, and we'll see if we can improve the article. I appreciate your help and feedback. Regards Adamdaley (talk) 23:55, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Military history project[edit]

You may also be interested in one of the project's task forces: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Australia, New Zealand and South Pacific military history task force. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

AustralianRupert, Many thanks for your invitation to join the above mentioned Projects, I appreciate your offer. I am however about to set off on an outback trek for a few months, and therefore will be unable to participate. Regards,Summerdrought (talk) 06:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
No worries, sounds like fun. The project is ongoing, though, so when you get back if you are keen it will still be there. Anyway, take care. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


Veevers Vandalism[edit]

For some reason I was looking through the edit history and came upon a deliberate change of Veevers working in the area in 1950s, to the 1980s! Have a look at either side of the "Revision as of 03:00, 1 June 2009" and you will see that an IP editor made that change. Further research this morning has led me to understand that there are few impact craters with meteoritic material still associated with them; but I do wonder how big a dimple has to be before it is called a crater. I was surprised to find that Acraman, in the north of the Eyre Peninsula, has chondrite associated with it. It is huge, and believe it or not, I figured out for myself that it was a crater, simply because of the circular manner in which the roads run around it. When the kids were little and we were heading for Coffin Bay, we had a choice of either the east road or the west road - while studying the map I began speculating that the circular structure we were driving around was a crater.=Greg Winterflood (talk) 00:58, 15 June 2011 (UTC) Summerdrought (talk) 08:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Huckitta, Arkete, Argadargada[edit]

I have it on good authority that Argadargada refers to the end point, or run out of the Sandover. So it appears that Huckitta, Arkete, and Argadargada might all have the same meaning. The good authority only amounts to "the locals told me" so I'll have to dig a little deeper.Greg Winterflood (talk) 05:15, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Meetup in North Queensland[edit]

Townsville Customs House Townsville Meetup
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Hi there! You are cordially invited to the first meetup in Townsville on Saturday 21 April. Details and an attendee list are at Wikipedia:Meetup/Townsville. There is also the possibility of having a meetup in Ingham or Cairns which I have mentioned at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Townsville. Let us know if you are interested. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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WikiProject Australian Roads[edit]

Hi Summerdrought,

I notice that you have recently created and edited Australian road articles, such as Sandy Blight Junction Road. I have recently started up a new project for Australian roads, with the goal of improving Wikipedia's coverage of Australian roads – currently the vast majority of articles are stub or start class. The project pages are located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian Roads, if you want to take a moment to look around, and join up if you're interested. Thanks, Evad37 (talk) 05:55, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Evad37, I don't mind the odd cryptic crossword, therefore my guess is you are 40 and the name is Dave. Please accept my apologies if I am wrong, but I did enjoy browsing the red herrings on your user page. My username is not all that original, and a sleuth would have no trouble in tracking me down, so there's a challenge for you. Now to the subject. After much consideration I have decided to sit on the sidelines at this stage, as I doubt that I would be able to devote sufficient time to the project. We travel a lot, and I am not equipped with mobile stuff if you get my drift. So thanks anyway. I am willing to help out without being a formal member if there is any thing you would like me to look at. Keep up the good work.Summerdrought (talk) 04:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg No problem, however and whenever you choose to help out is fine (by the way, you are only half-right about my username) - Evad37 (talk) 04:55, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
What! are you 80?
No, that's getting colder - Evad37 (talk) 05:05, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks, fixed Summerdrought (talk) 21:42, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Woomera Test Range[edit]

Hello Summerdrought, First attempt at a reply so we will see how I go with it. Many thanks for your recent suggestions. Regarding your last message as follows:

"Hi Charliebarsby. Thank you for your recent additions to the Woomera articles, which are welcome. May I recommend that you have a look at the Wikipedia:Manual of Style for assistance with the layout and style of wording for the encyclopedia. Information which is added to an article's main page needs to have verifiable inline references cited, usually meaning that the information comes from a published source. Wikipedia does not condone personal research as a verifiable source. Presently, the Woomera articles have insufficient verifiable citations, and would be greatly improved by their addition if you have access to some. Many thanks. Summerdrought (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)"

I have had a quick look at the Wikipedia:Manual of Style and it is a comprehensive section; is there something in particular that you wish me to study?

OK on the "Personal Research" being unacceptable as a reference. I have used Fire Across the Desert, also Files and Site Plans viewed in the Adelaide Office of the National Archives of Australia generally as reference material. If you could be specific I will expand on the references for the particular entries of concern. I worked on the Range for the best part of 30 years and have hands on experience with some of the items that I have entered. My wife worked on the ELDO Project for 1966 to 1970.


Kind regards Charliebarsby — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliebarsby (talkcontribs) 02:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Charliebarsby, your experience at Woomera could be invaluable in fixing up the articles about Woomera. The article Woomera, South Australia needs much more in the way of verifiable references, for example there are no references at all in the Introduction and Overview sections, and the first appears in the Establishment subsection of History. It seems that P. Mortons "Fire across the desert" would be a very good reference, but nowhere in the article is its ISBN number quoted so that readers can verify that it is a legitimate source. I suggest you look at Wikipedia:Citing sources as the main reference for the method of doing this. Also, looking how other editors have gone about it always helps. In-line references can be tricky until you have done a few. I hope you find this reply helpful, regards, Summerdrought (talk) 02:24, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Summerdrought, Thank you for these tips which I will follow up in due course. My opinion on first reading some articles related to Woomera is that they are RAAF biased and lacking in detail on what preceded the RAAF take over. Hence my interest in adding a bit more information to reflect more accurately what has occured in the past.

The ISBN for Fire Across the Desert is ISBN 0 644 06068 9 Commonwealth of Australia 1989. Apart from the files in the Defence and National Archives it is the best written reference available.

I like your portrait of LB. I have seen that picture somewhere in one of my books but can't place it at present. I have all of his books signed by the author. Kind regards, Charliebarsby (talk) 09:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello again Charliebarsby, I am green with envy that you have signed copies of LB's books! I have paperback versions of his books, except for "Around the World in 80 Delays". If you have a paperback copy of his "Bush" series, there is a small (35x45mm) image of him on the back cover, which is what I used as a guide for the pencil drawing. My focus recently has been writing new articles about his roads, which had not yet been covered. It is still a work in progress. I concur with your comments regarding RAAF bias in the Woomera related articles, something which you might be able to re-balance in due course. I travelled the Anne Beadell Highway in 2007, some of the Connie Sue, the Gary Junction Road, Sandy Blight Junction Road and part of the Gary Hwy since then. Hope to do more in future. Please keep going with the Woomera articles, I am sure they can be improved. cheers, Summerdrought (talk) 10:19, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Good Morning Summerdrought, Thank you for the tip on the Talk page. I have created a Talk page this morning. OK on the photograph, it is on the back of four of the "Bush" series books. Do you have the book Len Beadell's Legacy by Ian Bayly ISBN 9781921496028? It is a reasonable reference although there are some errors of fact and he is obviously inclined towards the aborigines. He doesn't appreciate the fact that if LB's roads had not been constructed that many of the Communities would not exist as they were developed after the roads were constructed. I know Len's family and for several years before her death I had been in contact with his wife Anne on numerous occasions. She gave me copies of selected portions of his diaries however these were given in confidence and I would not pass them on to third parties. I would be prepared to share information with you if I can be of assistance although my main interest is the period 1946 - 1956.

My aim has been to correct works that have been writtem about him which are not factual. I have recently written an article that was published in the Austalian Sapper Magazine (an annual publication) regarding the so-called "Beadell Rescue". This incident happened in mid 1956 about half way between Mount Davies (north-west corner of SA) and Emu. The original short article was writen by Major Dennis Magee who was in charge of work conducted by the Royal Australian Engineers at Maralinga early in the project.

The only roads that I have travelled are Watson-Maralinga-EMU-Mabel Creek, Watson-Maralinga-Oak Valley-Volk's Hill Corner-Emu-Mabel Creek and also Dingo Claypan-300 mile peg and down to the Anne Beadell Highway. Plenty of bush bashing north of Emu looking for suitable areas for projects. Observatory Hill and Aboriginal Stone Henge were highlights during my travels

For reasons known only to themselves LB is not appreciated in the Royal Australian Survey Corps "clique". It is the best example of Tall Poppy Syndrome that I he ever encountered.

I see that you mention that you are located in Cairns. How long have you lived in the area? I was born and educated at Gordonvale and left there to join the Army at age 17. I always say that I left up there before they started selling the place to the Japanese! Regards Charliebarsby (talk) 00:23, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.[edit]

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Re: Canning Stock Route[edit]

Hi Graham, before today I'd never actually edited the Canning Stock Route article, but I've taken a bash at it anyway. Hope you like it. As for the image, I refuse to deal with images because I can't see them (see my user page), but you can nominate it at files for deletion if you feel like it. How did you find me – was it the name? :-) Your username rings a bell for me, but I can't figure out exactly why. Graham87 03:38, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Over-doing it, I suspect that getting variants and styles is now enough for gaynor. Clearly self advertising and blockable. It might be worth encouraging in your gentle way, but the photo as a self promotion item was uploaded months ago. I suspect the user knew what they were doing, and rorting the system for the time possible. I would have no hesitation in requesting a block if she returned without taking heed of the warnings on the talk page satusuro 02:08, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

A Tesla Roadster for you![edit]

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Thank You![edit]

Just wanted to say thank you so much for giving me my very first Barn Star. I know its only a little thing, but its put a great big smile on my face this morning! Lucyloo10 (talk) 08:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Flying by with a fly-by[edit]

I don't think I'd characterize "flyby" as "American" usage so much as a manifestation of Americans not knowing how to hyphenate compound adjectives and verbs any more because... oh, I won't get started on that issue! I think "flyby" is not dead-on incorrect, but definitely suboptimal, and would go with the OED "fly-by" myself under the circumstances. I have a distinct recollection of coming upon this issue in the past (although, apparently, according to the article history, not on Jupiter) and it isn't out of the question that I may have rolled my eyes and "compromised" with "flyby" in the name of intra-article consistency and at least eliminating glaring horrors like "the spacecraft made its final fly by of Mercury on 30 April 2015". (I tend to do a good bit of copy-nitpicking with the mobile app at 2 a.m. [insomnia relief; eh, it beats Candy Crush] and while I try to avoid getting mired in long articles under circumstances when keeping written style notes isn't practical, alas, it happens, and I try to finish the surgery as inoffensively as I can lest I zonk out asleep with an editing window open.) Good luck! Julietdeltalima (talk) 00:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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Maps[edit]

I love those maps you are adding to articles. What kind of software are you using to produce them (if it's not a trade secret)? Kerry (talk) 05:20, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

  • Hi Kerry, no secret, I use Inkscape a free download on the Web. There is an article on Wikipedia about it. Thank you for your comments regarding my maps, I have a few more in the pipeline; next to come is the Kennedy Highway. Love your work, by the way! -- Summerdrought (talk) 05:59, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Summerdrought![edit]

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I hope all is well with you, and I wish you a great New Year in 2016!
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 18:04, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Peninsula Developmental Road[edit]

I think you might be being a bit too vigilant here given this is a new user and WP:NOBITE applies. I think reaching out and talking to them about how to improve what they are doing might help a bit. They seem to be acting in good faith and I suspect they are a TMR employee who knows all about the road, but struggling with policies, processes, licensing etc. As someone who does Wikipedia training, I know new users find it all very bewildering. And, importantly, new users are unlikely to read an article Talk page nor look at the edit summaries in the History (they just don't yet know about them). So you probably need to write on their User Talk as that is your best chance of reaching them because they get the "You have new messages banner". At the moment they probably have no idea why their contributions are being deleted and probably getting rather angry and frustrated by it all. Kerry (talk) 00:39, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your sage advice Kerry, you are right. Regarding your training experience with Wikipedia, I would be more than happy if you would leave the suggested message for TMR CYRP. Regards, Summerdrought (talk) 01:50, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Lake Macdonald[edit]

Thanks for identifying that incorrect link. I have now changed the redirect to a disambig page, and redone the link in the article so it directs to the correct place. hamiltonstone (talk) 07:52, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Dear Graham, Face-smile.svg
Thank you very much for enriching our encyclopedia with all those beautiful maps (71 to date!) that you created and donated to the project since 7 January 2016. It must take you quite some time, effort and meticulous concentration to produce each of these maps and the present award is therefore richly deserved. I hope you will continue to enjoy adding more of your wonderful maps for the benefit of our encyclopedia.
Thank you once again, Graham, for a job very well done! Face-smile.svg
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Lake Amadeus[edit]

Thanks for catching that. I guess I confused myself. Gab4gab (talk) 00:39, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Photo request[edit]

Hi, Summerdrought! As you mention you live in Cairns, I was wondering if you might be able to help me with a photo for Commons. I have just written the article Edward Albert Koch (a doctor in Cairns who died in 1901 having figured out the connection between mosquitos and malaria) and there appears to be no photo I can find of him. However, there was a memorial built to him, now located in Anzac Memorial Park (corner of Abott and Spence Street) (see map) which has "on two sides of the dome are sculptured likenesses in Carrara marble of Dr Koch" and when you look closely at this photo of the memorial you can see there is a carving of a man's face. So I was wondering if a close-up photo of this carving might be good enough to be used to illustrate his article. I am guessing the carving on the monument is probably the source of the image on the Dr Koch foundation website. Anyway, if you are in a position to help with this, many thanks in advance. Kerry (talk) 00:58, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kerry, A very interesting article it is too. I will be pleased to take a look at the memorial and assess the feasibility of taking a photo. No doubt the time of day for a good shot with regard to shadows will need to be taken into account, so I will let you know the outcome. Cheers Summerdrought (talk) 22:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for that! Kerry (talk) 23:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Some baklava for you![edit]

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Thank you very much for taking the time to visit my guestbook and for adding your friendly message! It's very nice to know you too, and thanks once again for all your great maps!
I hope you like Baklava? It's sticky and nutty and dripping with honey and therefore somewhat counter-indicated for our ol' cardio-vascular systems but, hey, we're all going in the same direction and we might just as well, therefore, enjoy the ride while it lasts, don't you think? Face-wink.svg
Please keep well and joyful, Graham.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 08:42, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Hi Summerdrought, Thank you for your contributions of all those maps. I also love your portrait by the way (a favourite past-time of mine).

Would you consider allowing me to use your map of the Northern Territory in a book for Foster Children to help identify where their families are from? I can send you a copy pre-printing for your reference.

I would like to acknowledge you as the source but am unsure how to do so beyond identifying you by your Wikipedia Username.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Kind Regards,

Katherine Starshinebrightsky (talk) 06:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Katherine, many thanks for the barnstar, much appreciated. By all means feel free to make use of my map, I am glad that it will be used for something beneficial. I am happy if you use my first name 'Graham' as the attribution. Summerdrought (talk) 07:01, 5 December 2016 (UTC)