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Dario Pot Nationality[edit]

Hey SuperJew wondering where you found the information on country for Dario Pot? Couldn't find it when I went search about him (To be honest couldn't find all that much on him in the first place). NZFC(talk) 06:27, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

@NZ Footballs Conscience: I found it here. --SuperJew (talk) 13:38, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Revert[edit]

Hi SuperJew, They divorced. In the United States, that indicates they are not a family. What are your thoughts? Hmlarson (talk) 19:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Hmlarson: I was not aware of that :O Umm I think we should keep it (prob with a note), as they were married while they were playing soccer, no? --SuperJew (talk) 22:05, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I'd vote no. Wambach's re-married with kids. Her wife is not a soccer player. Huffman retired in 2014.ref Hmlarson (talk) 22:44, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@Hmlarson: My point is that there was a point that they were both playing soccer and married --SuperJew (talk) 18:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
I get your point - but that isn't the name of the article. Hmlarson (talk) 18:48, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
I guess you could add a "divorced or previous families" section to be accurate. Hmlarson (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@Hmlarson: For example: "List of foreign League X players" include players who "became" foreign even after leaving the league (for examples: Moses Ashikodi and Dexter Blackstock were capped for A&B after playing in the EPL, Daniel Gordon was capped for Jamaica after playing in the Bundesliga, Iain Ramsay was capped for the Philippines after playing in the A-League). I was going by that logic, to say players who were married should be included in the talked about list. However, your suggestion of adding a "divorced or previous families" section, (or perhaps a note) might be a good way to explain it sufficiently. --SuperJew (talk) 22:25, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Sure, I get it. As is, it’s outdated and inaccurate, though. They aren’t a family - haven’t been for quite some time. Hmlarson (talk) 02:23, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
@Hmlarson: So for having a "divorced or previous families" section, do you think that should be a sub-section in each country as needed or a general section (on the same header level as the countries)? --SuperJew (talk) 07:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

@Hmlarson: I'm moving the conversation to Talk:List of association football families#Divorced/previous families for the opportunity of more opinions :) --07:17, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

hat tricks[edit]

i was in the middle of editting that !! You could have waited 5 minutes ?! Matilda Maniac (talk) 20:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice (don't usually check my watchlist while I'm editing a page). Testy, testy, testy... nothing wrong with the link you provided, I didn't see it when I added mine anyways... As it is, if available I do prefer a newspaper with a broader subject range than SBS World Game or FourFourTwo as it confers more notability. --SuperJew (talk) 21:22, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not require the best reference amongst two or more alternative acceptable ones; if you can provide a link to a Wiki talk thread with a policy outcome or consensus that newspaper based references are preferred over online citations, i'd be interested to see it. Thanks for the apology. Matilda Maniac (talk) 02:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Didn't say it was a Wikipedia requirement... just said that's the link I prefer adding :) --SuperJew (talk) 16:33, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Ben Kennedy[edit]

Hello SuperJew. I noticed that you moved Ben Kennedy to Ben Kennedy (rugby league footballer). Whilst I have no great issue with it going to disambiguation, it should have gone to Ben Kennedy (rugby league) per MOS. Could I please ask you to move it there and marry up the navboxes away from Ben Kennedy to. Many thanks in advance.Fleets (talk) 21:46, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

@Fleets: Hey, I'd be happy to do it (wasn't aware of the MOS as I don't edit rugby). Problem is that the page Ben Kennedy (rugby league) already exists as a redirect and I can't override it. You'll have to ask an admin to do it. --SuperJew (talk) 22:00, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
I just found that out myself, and much appreciated anyways. Raised it as a query and will follow it up with an admin as and when I get some time. Shalom.Fleets (talk) 22:04, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Davie Colquhoun[edit]

I have a photo of my grandfather that can be added to the page but I don't know how to upload it. I am brand new to Wikipedia editing. Are you interested in adding to the page? If so, how do I get the image to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davie_Colquhoun — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.140.158.234 (talk) 23:18, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Hey, you can create an account, and then upload the image here. --SuperJew (talk) 07:36, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Note[edit]

Hi! Please remember to subst {{nfa}} template because this template is a subst template, thanks! Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Why? There's a bot that does it automatically. --SuperJew (talk) 10:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Although a bot will help you subst this template, it is better that you subst this template next time or server will save one more vision. See template usage for more info. Face-smile.svg Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 11:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

List of EFL Championship hat-tricks[edit]

Please see my talk page comment at Talk:List of EFL Championship hat-tricks#First Division hat-tricks and let me know your thoughts. Thanks. --Jameboy (talk) 23:14, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

About deletion for Oliver Sail[edit]

Actually, "TODAY" (25 March 2018), Sail made his debut as a Wellington Phoenix goalkeeper. So I don't know why we should delete the page. FastCube (talk) 08:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

@FastCube: My apologies, I didn't see that (though I think that wasn't true as of the time I PROD'ed it). Still, it wasn't true when you created it on 18 March 2018. Please make sure you are familiar with notability guidelines before creating articles. This is not the first time either. --SuperJew (talk) 14:59, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Happy Passover![edit]

Happy Passover!

Hello SuperJew, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this passover. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a happy passover or easter, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person.
Happy editing,
Bellezzasolo Discuss 16:06, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Happy Passover}} to other user talk pages.

@Bellezzasolo: Thank you mate! Have a wonderful and peaceful holiday :) --SuperJew (talk) 18:19, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Squad navboxes[edit]

Mate,

Your arguments about why youth players shouldn't be in the navbox are inconsistent and weak. Since when were "squad numbers assigned at the start of the season"? What about new signings? Or - relevantly here - players who come in from the youth squad? In fact, if you look at the squad numbers its clear that the youth players take the same number every time they play with the A-League squad. Have you seen anything to contradict this? Was it just a coincidence that Peter Kekeris took number 25 this round (source) as he did in early January (source)? Or that Lachlan Wales has worn number 24 every time he has played? Literally every youth player playing A-League wears the same number every week. To deny these players have regular squad numbers is obtuse. Macosal (talk) 09:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Macosal: Youth players do not have numbers, youth players may play for the senior team, but only if the player is signed to the senior team do they receive an official shirt number. That means although Kekeris was assigned #25 when he made an appearance for the senior team, he isn't officially assigned to the number, any other youth player can 'unofficially' use the number.
For example, Sydney's Sam McIllhatton was assigned #3 in the FFA Cup match he played, but was #8 in an NYL match, and according to a change by FastCube (don't know where the info is from but SoccerBase backs this) he is now #15.
And yes, senior squad numbers are assigned at the start of season, for example: Sydney's 2016/17 announcement. And new senior signings are assigned numbers, which are often given in the official announcement, for example Vido joining City or Zuvela's promotion. --SuperJew (talk) 14:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
It is not uncommon for players to wear different numbers in different competitions. The League numbers are the relevant ones here and do not change once assigned. That is actually quite obvious when you look at the volume of youth players, all of whose numbers do not change. Not only do they not change, but other players don’t take those numbers when they come into the team. Why has no Mariner other than Kekeris used 25 this season? A fair few have come into the squad since then. Macosal (talk) 20:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, it's quite uncommon, I'd even say rare, and the only ones I can think of are when the competition has a restriction on squad numbers. --SuperJew (talk) 21:10, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I can recall it happening with A-League seniors in FFA Cup / ACL. It’s a bit besides the point how often that happens however - the point being, the fact a player wore a different number for one game (before the league season) should not detract from the fact that these players are clearly assigned specific squad numbers for the league. Macosal (talk) 22:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
What volume of youth players? There's a handful. --SuperJew (talk) 17:56, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
There’s probably 3-4 per club on average. But if there aren’t that many why is it a problem to add them? Macosal (talk) 03:43, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Not a question of amount, but of policy. --SuperJew (talk) 10:18, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
It's a navbox of the current squad - the players contracted and eligible. Youth players have to be promoted. --SuperJew (talk) 10:19, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
As their continued presence in the first teams indicates, they literally do not have to be... They are already eligible and many play frequently for the first team without being promoted. Macosal (talk) 14:30, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
If you notice in the weekly squad updates it says promoted or demoted. Youth players are payed less so why ever would clubs keep fringe players on senior contracts unless they have to for playing regulations?
Anyway, I suggest you take this discussion to the talk page of the Task Force or the WT:FOOTY talk page. --SuperJew (talk) 22:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Done. Macosal (talk) 08:07, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of YLeague templates[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague WSW has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague SFC has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague PG has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:02, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague MV has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:05, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague MH has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:06, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague MC has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:11, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague CCM has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:14, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague BR has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:15, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:YLeague AU has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 06:16, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

@Hhkohh: I'd appreciate in future if in such cases you'd just send me one concentrated message. Thanks, --SuperJew (talk) 17:33, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Best-and-fairest votes boxes[edit]

Hey SuperJew. If what you say here is true, then show me where any such discussion has taken place – if there hasn't been any discussion, and there's no policy in place suggesting that only players with votes should have votes boxes, then I don't agree that it should be removed. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 06:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

@4TheWynne: As I said, you're welcome to bring it up at the project talk page. --SuperJew (talk) 06:39, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
You're avoiding what I've said. You claimed that there's already been a discussion on this matter – if so, show me where it is, and if it does exist, then at least I'll know that I'm discussing against a consensus. I certainly haven't been able to find such a discussion yet. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 06:49, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
I don't remember where it was, and I don't intend to go through history and talk pages of dozens of players now. --SuperJew (talk) 06:52, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of A-League templates[edit]

despite a recent closing of a discussion about deleting templates, where the outcome appears to be contrary to what you were arguing for, you seem to be subverting the system by reintroducing templates immediately after the changes are made, such as HERE. Why ? @Hhkohh: @Plastikspork: : is there some additional template merging discussed elsewhere that is not part of this particular TfD ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 06:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

The template document says: This subtemplate is used by {{A-LeagueAttendance}}, {{A-League Table of Results}}, {{ALeagueMatchSummaryLine}}, {{A-LeagueDiscipline}} and is not intended to be used directly. So this template should be substed when using in A-League transfers for 2018–19 season like {{nfa}}. No need for an additional merging discussion for me. Hhkohh (talk) 10:58, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
I am not reintroducing anything. I am using what exists. In both discussions (here and here) the merge option was discussed which by their comments, Hhkohh (creator of the TfDs) supported.
I will subst the templates after the season (as I said I would do with the previous templates), but currently, pre-substing it is very useful typing aid, requiring changing of 2-3 characters instead of like 60. --SuperJew (talk) 11:30, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Redlinks[edit]

Please don't (re-)add redlinks to topics that have been deleted as non-notable. WP:REDLINK are only for notable topics. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 10:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: mate, they were linked before the articles were created and deleted. That's the consensus in soccer club season pages. --SuperJew (talk) 14:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
I asked about this from the closing admin of the most recent deleting close of a non-notable football bio. You can read the thread here: User talk:78.26#Unlinking after deletion. The advice was to ask you to point out this consensus. Where can I see this in action? I looked at recent closes and the opposite seems to be the norm. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 11:14, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@Finnusertop: As 78.26 said "However, if these are junior leagues, it would seem quite possible that a player could become notable in the future". All these unlinked players are young players who are in a fully-pro league squad, so it is quite conceivable they will be notable in the near future. The concern is that they will become notable and no-one will go back to the old season pages to link them to their articles, which is a loss. Also, regarding links which display only the family names (as in football boxes and squad templates) having the redlink gives the advantage of displaying the full name. --SuperJew (talk) 17:06, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Dispute in the Denmark national football team page[edit]

Hej SuperJew I have added a link to a page I made with the Present and ongoing undefeated streak of the Danish NT to hopefully end a silly dispute. I may add that the now 16 games undefeate streak is also by far the longes streak a Danish NT has ever been undefeate since their very first offical NT game at the 1908 Olympic in London. The second longest undefeated streak was 11 games back in 1995, starting with the match against Saudi Arabia on the 6 January 1995 in the FIFA Confederations Cup that Denmark won by beating Argentina 2-0 in the Final, and ending with the very last game the same year, with a 3-1 win against Armenia in a UEFA Euro 1996 qualifier on 15 November 1995. So an 11 game undefeated streak that lasted exactly the whole year. Otherwise we need to go all the way back to 1912-16 to find an 11 game unbeaten streak for the Danish NT, but obviously this was also far from as long a streak as the 16 games right now. I'll change the title of the page from 'Present and ongoing undefeated streak' to 'Longest undefeated streak' when Denmark finally get beaten and this should hopefully put an end to your dispute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CeresAGF (talkcontribs) 22:52, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@CeresAGF: It seems your article was deleted moments after being created, so seems I am not the only editor who thinks your edits are mistaken. Please take up this issue at WT:FOOTY to get more opinions if you still want to continue. --SuperJew (talk) 06:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
@SuperJew: I do not know who deleted it, but the one who did, has deleted a page about an all-time historical unbeaten run by the Danish NT, with a History box and relevant links, which is quite shocking. But through the years I have noticed that you English speaking Wikipedians often tend to just toss new wiki-pages straight in the bin if there is no links to English language sources. I have had to fight so many times in the past to keep new wiki-pages with present and former Danish and Polish Internationals and present and former Danish Superliga players where I could find no English language sources, which is also why I quit posting new wikipedia years ago, because it was really not worth all the time and trouble, having to fight to keep wiki pages of well know soccer players, who you english speaking wikipedians did not know about and so just threw in the bin. I simply can not find any English language sources I can link to about this historical unbeaten run, even the Danish sources I can link to are few, but it's a fact never the less if you take time to investigate, but as written it's hardly worth my time and trouble when it's most likely just going to be tossed in the bin by some American or English speaking wikipedian within a few hours.
@CeresAGF: As far as I can tell, It wasn't deleted as a matter of sourcing, but as a matter of duplicate information which already exists in an article. It would be better though if you ask the editor who deleted the page: @Ansh666:. --SuperJew (talk) 21:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Please read WP:NOTSTATS. Streaks, no matter how "historical", are not generally notable, and the page's only sources were to statistics sites - no news articles, etc. which would provide even the smallest bit of notability. This information is best covered in Denmark national football team (or the spin-off List of Denmark national football team results), and the article as it was would be entirely useless as even a redirect due to its unworkable title. ansh666 21:37, 19 June 2018 (UTC)