User talk:TCN7JM/Archive 2

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Not sure if you're aware of this, but we have an IRC chat room to help with collaboration and to discuss road-related (and non-road-related) issues! Feel free to stop by. --Rschen7754 06:18, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Did not know this. Thanks for the heads-up! –Mauer (talk) 06:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


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Redirect list

I noticed that neither North nor South Dakota have a redirect link page. Basically, it's list of every reasonable combination of links that would redirect to a highway article. This page is Iowa's list so you can see what I'm talking about. It's useful for when you create a state-detail article. You want to know that all the relevant links point to the article you just created. –Fredddie 13:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks. –TCN7JM 21:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Possible ND source

Is this helpful? [1] --Rschen7754 20:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Stub templates

Just so you know, the stub templates that you were talking about in IRC last night/this morning have nothing to do with project assessment. There is a WikiProject that tags short articles with the stub templates. WP:USRD has a more nuanced method of assessing shorter articles, so it is entirely possible that a Start- or a C-Class article could have a stub template. –Fredddie 12:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Nebraska state highways

According to the Nebraska highway log book, there are, in fact, dashes in the US route numbers, so I am changing your edit back. DandyDan2007 (talk) 22:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

What about this site on the NDOR website that clearly refrains from using the dashes between the characters? –TCN7JM 22:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm honestly seeing some inconsistency on the NDOR website within itself. It's used sometimes but not others. There's also the fact that most, if not all other states don't use the dash. The inconsistency between WP:NESH and the rest of WP:USRD would be quite ridiculous. –TCN7JM 22:40, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

One thing I did notice, after doing some quick research, is that Kansas and Oklahoma do put dashes between the US and the number, at least in the articles I looked at here, so there is already inconsistency. It probably means we are only supposed to use what the state decides. We could always decide to post something on the wikiproject talk page. DandyDan2007 (talk) 21:00, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The convention has been to match the abbreviations used by the DOT for each state. We have a few exceptions though, as we don't use all of TxDOT's two-letter codes (IH-X instead of I-X, BU-X instead of US X Bus.) and MDOT uses US-X in Michigan but the articles were pretty much consistently using US X. At some point though, I'd love to propose dropping the hyphens from US Highways nationwide for consistency. Imzadi 1979  21:32, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

kansas turnpike

What do you mean by punctually incorrect statements? What should I do to address these types of things? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brycecordry (talkcontribs) 00:53, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Kansas Turnpike is a featured article, so anything that you add needs to follow the manual of style. --Rschen7754 00:55, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Yeah. We have an ongoing ACR. It would help if you collaborated there. –TCN7JM 01:00, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

GA effort

Sorry I missed you last night. What I was going to ask...would you be willing to make U.S. Route 412 in Oklahoma a KML? I am aware it is somewhat lengthy, but it is needed before I can take it to GA (along with me finishing the prose, naturally...). —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 16:23, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hello TCN7JM

It appears that you know a great deal more about interstate highway listings (on Wikipedia) than I do, so I've come looking for a bit of enlightenment. This was stimulated by your edits at I-285. I had deleted information that appeared (to me) to be unimportant and selective. Specifically, the naming of certain segments of the highway for local personalities. The list was not complete. And even if it had been, I'm at a loss to understand how it added meaningful information to the article. Is there some standard in these matters? A guide, followed on all interstate listings here, that I am unaware of? Do we list each interchange named for a personality? Do we list each named (then deleted!!) section of the highway (which is what happened with the section named for the controversial Cynthia McKinney)? Do we make note of personality-attached names when noting superlatives - like the Tom Moreland Interchange (I-285/I-85N) which is the busiest intersection in Georgia.

Any help that you can offer here would be most appreciated. Gulbenk (talk) 20:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

At WP:USRD, we usually make note of any special designations. I'm pretty sure it's optional, but the more useful content, the better. –TCN7JM 04:21, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. Most helpful. So then, should someone add in the missing designations to make the list more comprehensive? Gulbenk (talk) 16:28, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
I live in South Dakota, so I'm not really an expert with Georgia's roads; therefore, I don't really know where the missing designations are or what they're named. If you know them, feel free to go ahead and add them. –TCN7JM 17:04, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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The two exit 4s are separate, but if you look, they are linked by collector-distributor roads, and therefore one number (not 4A, 4B) Thanks. Brycecordry (talk) 05:40, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Who said anything about them being 4A and 4B? It's just that the collector-distributor roads aren't notable enough to be mentioned in the notes column. –TCN7JM 05:50, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
In my last visit there, I saw one interchange for both roads, and then they split off separately at two folded diamond interchanges. Or am I over thinking this? Brycecordry (talk) 05:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
You're overthinking this. They're both exit 4, yes, and they're both folded diamonds, but that has nothing to do with the collector roads not being notable enough for the notes column. –TCN7JM 06:02, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for all your patience in me learning the "Way Of Wikipedia!" I will learn someday, no worries! Brycecordry (talk) 06:09, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
It's okay. It took me a little while to learn myself, and I'm still learning. –TCN7JM 06:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of learning, I did cite my sources, I clicked the sources button, got (Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

) and then I put my link (an old KDOT map) Thanks Brycecordry (talk) 21:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Slight overreaction on my part, but we are writing to FA standards! "(Reference #67)" won't stand. –TCN7JM 22:04, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
So you are saying that I should use the REFERENCE button. Also, where can I go for help on my user page or talk page note like yours or Imzadi1979's? Brycecordry (talk) 22:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
It would be nice if you would use the reference templates. Your new edit is fine.
If you want to start an edit notice for your talk, you can start it at User talk:Brycecordry/Editnotice and use the {{editnotice}} template. –TCN7JM 22:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, and I just made the article for K-23. It needs lots of help, and you do lots of editing (as I hear), and you live around the area (in South Dakota?), so I thought I'd tell you! Brycecordry (talk) 22:41, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────South Dakota is somewhat close to Kansas, yes. I have other things I need to do on Wikipedia and Wikidata, though, so K-23 would be somewhere toward the back of my to-do list. I'll get to it eventually, though, no doubt. –TCN7JM 00:13, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, It is no rush, as there are so many Kansas Route Stubs it is not even funny. I will piece away at it, though. Brycecordry (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


I see you reverted yourself finally. K-10 is a freeway and all those random county roads have interchanges, which we specifically include. Please check before you start reverting like that. –Fredddie 13:22, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Finally? I revertd myself after, like, two hours (off the top of my head). Plus...I know, so why'd you have to tell me again? –TCN7JM 14:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I was a bit foggy. We'll discuss it more if you're on IRC later. –Fredddie 23:27, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Concurrency of US 59 and Douglas County Highway 458

I don't understand your rationale of altering the new exit list on US-59 from Ottawa to Lawrence in Kansas to eliminate the overlap of Douglas County Highway 458 with US-59. They are concurrent for 2 miles beyond this northernmost interchange of the new US-59 freeway.

Furthermore, I don't understand why you and everyone else on Wikipedia feels the need to constantly change the exit list which I originally created. I lived in the area for many years, I know US-59 better than most of the editors here. Why can't you leave well enough alone? --JoBrLa (talk) 22:30, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Generally, county roads are not notable enough to include in junction lists, they're fine on K-10 because they have interchanges, which are always included. That's not to say we can't include them, but you need to make your case. "I used to live there" is not the best argument for inclusion. –Fredddie 23:29, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Commons rename request

I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is Thecatchernumbersevenjooooemauer. –TCN7JM 21:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hey, sorry about deleting the highways. The thing was, I initially tried to add a fifth highway to K-254's western terminus - K-96, which is part of this junction. But the K-96 shield wouldn't show up. So I gave up and instead tried to make it more concise by cutting out US-81 and K-15.

If there's a way to get the K-96 shield in there, I'd love to know about it.

Regards, --JoBrLa (talk) 22:00, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

{{jct}} only supports four junctions for unknown reasons. I'd like for it to show five, as this is just one of many instances I've seen where that's needed. You're not at fault. If you still want to add the junction, you can hardcode it. That is, just scrap {{jct}} and place the images and links separately. –TCN7JM 22:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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Undoing my edits

I am just a bit curious: Why did you undo my edits on the K-140 (Kansas highway) page? I know that the first one was a link to the same page that the redirect I added linked to (couldn't the original link be modified to point to the History section?). However, there was no link at all for US 40N. Also, shouldn't the I-70 link have been to the Kansas-specific article, like I changed it to?

Now, don't think that I am causing trouble. I just thought that my edits made sense. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 10:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

You're correct on the I-70 one, but you didn't need to change the links for the US-40 routes. Linking US-40S just redirects you to US-40, as does US-40N, which is why it didn't have a link. I will fix the I-70 one. It'd also be nice if you didn't make minor link "fixes" to articles while I'm telling people what to fix at GAN. You could have caused an edit conflict. –TCN7JM 18:32, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
I switched the I-70 one to I-70 KS and redirected US-40S to US-40's History.

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