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Yes, it has been fixed. BJTalk 04:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Nazuraiun[edit]

Hi Tomer: What do you make of Nazuraiun? Thanks, IZAK 10:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

AFD[edit]

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nazuraiun. Thank you. IZAK 13:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Oberlander Jews[edit]

I've never heard of this term. And the Chatam Sofer was German, as far as I know, not Hungarian. Methinks I besmell me a hoax. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 04:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

  • It's definitely not a hoax. The Oberlander Jews are a well-known sub-set in Haredi circles. IZAK 11:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Convention churches[edit]

I shall indeed be brushing up on Wikipedia as the days wear on, but be warned that I am prepared to defend the edits I have made. I don't wish to turn the article into an apologia for the church, but a good part of the article is hearsay or biased or nonsense.

"The church is sometimes confused with the Cooneyites" - By who? Adding "in the literature" certainly helps. By your own admission you're going back 25 years.

If the statement must stand I would - a) take it out of the opening paragraph - the subject SHOULD be included in the article, no question on that, and Cooney is referenced in the history.

Perhaps a section comparing the theology of the church to other denominations with which it is sometimes confused? Groups with common historical roots include the Faith Mission, the Plymouth Brethren, the Cooneyites. (Are there others emanating from Ireland in the late 19th, early 20th?)

Slofstra 15:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Circassians[edit]

No problem. Khoikhoi 12:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Jewish feminism[edit]

Hi Tomer: Please see the discussion at Talk:Jewish feminism#Does Jewish feminism really exist?. Thanks, IZAK 11:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Applesauce[edit]

Hi, I've responded to an ancient comment of yours at Talk:Applesauce in case you still care... —Angr 09:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: eh, thanks?[edit]

Well, there is WP:RUS which is currently used for transliterating names from Russian into English... Mírnyj átam as you put, is not a very commonly used transliteration system, and somewhat incorrect: there should be an atom not atam. According to WP:RUS, Russian "мирный атом" should be transliterated as mirny atom. Hope that clears it up, —dima/s-ko/ 17:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Lazarus and Dives RFC[edit]

An RFC has been filed to determine whether or not the position of the Jesus Seminar should be included in Lazarus and Dives. Your comments would be most welcome. --Joopercoopers 22:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

User talk:David Spart/Chabad Messianism[edit]

Following a recent wheel-war over Controversies of Chabad-Lubavitch in which PinchasC did not let me write an article on Chabad Messianism even after an AfD implied consensus for such an article I was advised to write such an article in my user space. I have now done so and would be grateful for any feedback from you before I put it up. Happy Purim. David Spart 00:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Recent edit to Partnership minyan[edit]

Hi Tomer! an edit was made to Partnership minyan adding the following paragraph:

Recently in the JOFA 10th Anniversary International Conference on Feminism & Orthodoxy, three members of these minyanim (Elitzur Bar-Asher, Michal Bar-Asher Siegal and Alanna Copper), in a session under the title: "Beyond Women Issue: Partnership Minyanim Engages Orthodoxy," articulated for the first time the methodology of the halachic decision process and the ideology behind these minyanim. <ref>[http://www.geretz.org/partnership_minyan.htm "Orthodox Conference explores "partnership minyan"],''The Jewish State''</ref>

I don't have any problem with the reliability of the media source, which contains excerpts from the JOFA paper which could legitimately added to the article. The paper itself, if it were published, could be cited and its content excerpted. But it doesn't seem to me that the mere presentation of an unpublished paper in a conference -- with nothing about the content, just the presentation of a paper and a claim the paper is a first -- is appropriate encyclopedia content for this article. (I also disbelieve the claim of first publication. For example, Tamar Ross wrote about these topics in her 2004 book Expanding the Palace of Torah, although doubtless not in as much detail). I want to be helpful to these people and if they have value to add and can reliably source it, I want to them to get their content in and they're welcome to cite any acceptable publication. However, I feel that simply adding a paragraph about the existence and virtues of an unpublished paper without meaningfully describing what it says on the article topic is not appropriate encyclopedia content and is possibly WP:SOAP. I'd appreciate a second opinion on this issue as well as your input about how to proceed. Best, --Shirahadasha 18:49, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Nudity in Judaism[edit]

Tomer, User:Dandelion1, who replied to my comment with the "edit away" remark, is the article's author and principle creator of its content. The fact that s/he replied in a way indicating there would be no effort to provide sources or address other issues was what prompted me to propose the Afd.. Best, --Shirahadasha 19:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Manners, dude[edit]

Thanks for the 'chevon'. No thanks for the petulance. Adam Brink 21:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

you'll work it out. Adam Brink

McCarthy, Judaism[edit]

Hi, drifting through the American History project looking for a second opinion, I came across your post of WP:PR for McCarthy. As it turns out, I would love your thoughts on the current state of the article McCarthyism. (Disclosure: my view is it lacks appropriate emphasis on Communists exposed by Venona). Also, as a two-for-one, check out Hasmonean, one of my recent projects. I'd love your contribs there if you have a moment. Kaisershatner 15:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Little House Wayside[edit]

I noticed in your bio that you used to live by the place. Would you take a picture of the place sometime when you're in the area? I was there within the past 2 years, and wish that I would have taken a picture for the article. Please improve the article if you have any more information. Thanks! Royalbroil T : C 12:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/WJBscribe[edit]

I have left a message for you to consider at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/WJBscribe. Royalbroil T : C 01:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply to message from Butwhatdoiknow[edit]

Thanks for the tip but, for now, I'm trying to keep my Wikipedia-ing under control.

Fishes[edit]

There is a new proposal on naming conventions for fish being discussed at WikiProject Fishes. As a member of a project whose naming conventions would be affected (WikiProject Sharks), your feedback would be appreciated at the WikiProject Fishes talk page here. Neil916 (Talk) 00:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Texas Border and State of Lincoln in 1869[edit]

An authoritative answer would surely be available from Mr. Robert Ybarra,Secretary, U. S. Section, International Boundary and Water Commission. This federal body, formed in 1848, along with the Mexican Section, has been continuously charged with determining the boundary between the U. S. and Mexico since that date. The U. S. Section is located in El Paso, Tx

stasi2@comcast.net William H. Mills of Alexandria Virginia, former Secretary of the Commission in the seventies.--68.83.210.155 20:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi![edit]

Long time no hear. How are you doing? Why don't you drop me a line? Jayjg (talk) 04:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Your Groovy User Page[edit]

It is 10 pounds of nifty is a 5-pound bag. I added in on my own user page, under Interesting user pages. Cheers! -Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

What an interesting person he is. Arcayne (cast a spell) 22:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, despite your rational explanations, I see that you got yourself attacked and accused for racism as well. No surprises there, it happened to anyone who tried to support the possibility of them being wrong, including Arcayne above. It's true that after a certain point and due to certain reasons, I failed to abide by WP:AGF, yet this is something resolvable via personal discussion and definitely irrelevant to the AnI's scope. That's why I'm bringing this up on your talk page rather than the AnI. Miskin 00:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Confused[edit]

I'm confused by your edit on AN/I where you typed this:

"Yeah. That includes you, Tomer. Tomertalk 19:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)"


Am I missing something, or did you just yell at yourself in the third person? SWATJester On Belay! 02:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Your bias[edit]

One week? Not necessary. But don't give me veiled threats. I will cite the following examples:

  1. When WP:NPOV butts heads with WP:CON, NPOV wins every time. If POV-pushers end up "disenfranchised" in the process, I, for one, consider that to be an excellent precedent. Tomertalk 17:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC) Your response to Agha Nader [1] regarding Iranian editors at The 300 (film).
  2. The remark is based upon nationality, but reading through the article's talkpage, I find numerous accusations of POV, including against you. If you're complaining because you feel Miskin's remarks constitute a violation of WP:NPA, that's one thing—I don't see a violation of NPA, although I do see some failure to WP:AGF, and I would have to agree that his lumping all Iranian together as biased wrt this article, simply because of their nationality, is theoretically somewhat disingenuous. Nothing I'm seeing on the article's talkpage, however, warrants classification here as an "incident". You asked a leading question, and got the answer you hoped to. Congratulations. You asked to be insulted and got what you wanted. How is that anyone's problem but your own? Tomertalk 17:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC) A rather bad faith response to a legitimate query, wouldn't you agree? [2]
  3. Assumption of bias based on nationality does not constitute "racism". There is no more an "Iranian race" than there is a "Jewish race", and if Jewish editors were insisting that Judaism never had animal sacrifices, or that Jews had never forcibly converted people, or that Jewish history consists exclusively of happy shiny people, yes, definitely, it would be alright to disenfranchise them from editing a "Jewish" related article—clearly they are incapable of doing so either rationally or within the confines of WP:NPOV. The remark is not racist, it simply indicates a prejudice...and, again, the remark never would have been made, had you not elicited it. You can't hit someone and then cry "foul!" when they hit back. Except maybe in Iran? Tomertalk 18:23, 8 April 2007 (UTC) A clear and outright denial of racism and prejudice against Iranians. [3]

Those should suffice as evidence of your bias in this situation, to which I was advising Agha Nader. Don't worry, I'm beginning to get used to such biases. It seems to be "business as usual" these days on WP, and apparently I'm "easily offended". But I say it like it is. Khorshid 03:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding this page, User:TShilo12/RFC/Khorshid, you should either start an RFC or remove this page at once. As far as I'm concerned, this relates to the above issue (as another piece of evidence of bias) and constitutes an attack page. Khorshid 04:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I have made no personal attacks and you are free to do as you wish. I am not going to respond to someone who is keeping tabs on edits - see WP:STALK. I am free to contact as many admins as I wish to alert them to this matter. Furthermore, I will no longer respond to you. Khorshid 04:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Its unfortunate that you think I stalked you there. I did not, I can assure you. I was editing David Irving and then went to the Holocaust denial category and started looking around. But you admit that you created the page to "keep an eye on me". That's stalking. I invite you to remove it as a show of good faith. Khorshid 05:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
If your remarks sincerely had no ill-intentions towards Iranians (and were not intended to minimise the prejudicial situation at the article in question), and my interpretation was off base, then I will assume good faith and take back my comments. Like I said, they appear to me in a bad light, but again, if that was not what you intended, I will AGF since you are willing to do the same. Khorshid 05:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:CIV[edit]

No, you didn't overstep the bounds. I'm amazed the still keep trying to promote that neologism. Jayjg (talk) 00:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for cleaning up a bit after me. I have no idea how that happened — there was an edit conflict, so I copied and pasted between the windows the usual way. Something wrong with the interface, maybe? Or maybe I just messed up because I am really tired...? In any case: Thanks! :-D Olve 01:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

"Jewish descent" versus Jew[edit]

See the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#"Jewish descent" versus Jew concerning the problems of using the term "Jewish descent" versus "Jew" as well as the related proposal. Thank you, IZAK 10:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Isru Chag[edit]

Saying that Isru Chag is related to Shmini Atseret is valid only in Israel; it incorrect in Chutz Lo-oretz. However, relating Isru Chag to Simchat Torah is true everywhere. So which is more precise?--Redaktor 22:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Bear and Dragon[edit]

See his comment in Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Daniel575 (5th). Best, --Shirahadasha 05:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

FYI[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000/Evidence Zeq 06:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Admin help[edit]

Hi Tomer: There is a mix-up going on, see User talk:Hmains#Duplicate category?. The guy is screwing things up. IZAK 08:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Concerned about User:Wassermann[edit]

Hi Tomer, Shavua Tov: Please see my concerns at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#User:Wasserman. Thank you, IZAK 13:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Map Image:Jews1490.png[edit]

I like it! I have a few comments:

  1. The area you have Jews dispersed in China is too large, I think. They should be concentrated in Kaifeng, along the Silk Road, and in a few of the coastal cities. There were not, to my knowledge, any Jews in the broad areas of countryside you have shaded in, esp. after the massacres at the end of the Tang dynasty.
  2. Ditto Ethiopia. Jews were probably limited to the area around Gondar province.
  3. Ditto Timbuktu. Should be much smaller area.
  4. Other than the Yemenites and the Habbani Jews in Hadramaut, I am not aware that there were any Jews in the Arabian Peninsula.
  5. The Jews had been expelled from England in 1290, and not re-admitted until the 1650s. While a few lapsed conversos may have arrived in England from the Spanish persecutions in the late 1490s and 1500's, that would be after the time of this map.
  6. I think you have the Mountain Jews extending too far north.
  7. There were some Italian Jews in the Crimea. See Ghisolfi.
  8. I don't think there were significant Jewish populations in Scandinavia until the 1700s.
  9. The map is missing the Baleric islands, Aegean islands and Malta, all of which had Jewish communities.
  10. The Jewish community in Sardinia was Sephardic, I think.
  11. Armenia had a distinctive Jewish community. Right now they appear as a mix of Romaniote, Kurdish and Iraqi Jews.

-Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 13:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Bob Dylan[edit]

I have been laboring to get Dylan removed from List of converts to Christianity.

The current debate is going on here.

This is an example of my argument, my most recent post:

C.Logan -- The list as presently configured is in violation of WP:NOT#SOAPBOX. You have been asked to change it. Many people on the Bob Dylan Talk page have asked that Bob Dylan's name be removed from this list. Why hasn't that change been made? Why hasn't Bob Dylan been removed from the list? Your assertion that the list should contain any person who has ever converted, even if they are no longer Christian, is an illogical contrivance that does not serve normal encyclopedic purposes and is advocacy for Christianity. Christianity and Judaism happen to be two different religions. Christianity is a religion which asserts that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Judaism asserts that Jesus Christ is not the Messiah. Bob Dylan happens to be a Jew. Bob Dylan's identity implies that Jesus Christ is not the Messiah. You are conflating mutually exclusive assertions in the definition that you have contrived for this list, making it into a grotesquery. It is not as if you are unaware that Bob Dylan's status has changed. One can accept that a change in religious status that you are unaware of can mistakenly creep into a list or remain on a list because you are unaware of it. But it is incumbent on an editor to remove a name if they are clearly aware that the person is not in fact a Christian, but in fact in this case is a Jew. This list should logically be a list not only of those who have ever converted but of those who are still Christians. It is promotion of Christianity to include the prominent Jew, Dylan on this list. Any other names that come to light as no longer being Christian should also be removed. The list is not a billboard for advertising Christianity. Please understand that I mean Christians no harm. But the twisting of logic is destructive to an encyclopedia, and the promotion of religion is totally out of place in Wikipedia. Bus stop 09:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Any comment? Thanks. Bus stop 14:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

"Vandalism"[edit]

Sorry; I skimmed through the change and by a mistake thaught it was some false crap implying that the EU was a nazi organisation. "The courts have reached some dangerous and frightening legal conclusions."-start seemed a bit alarming at first. My mistake.-- S. SOLB€RG J.]] / talk  20:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Religion in EU[edit]

Thanks for your comments. What I would like to do is replace the present comments on genocide etc. with a more general reference to ant-semitism, with links to more appropriate articles, where any missing detais could be added. For the time being, I would concentrate in the EU article on some Jewish population figures. There is a lot of scope for more information on Judaism in the European Union, but I don't think I'm very qualified to add it. If no-one else does, I'll try to do some research and come back to it later. --Boson 22:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC).

Ultra-orthodox[edit]

Greenfeld is referred to as Ultra-orthodox on Meretz's website here. It is far more common than Haredi, and is used as the description by all the major news sources, including the BBC and CNN, and is also commonly used in the English-language Israeli media; Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post. Number 57 14:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

The neo-lachrymose conception of Jewish-Arab history[edit]

I have responded to your comment on the AfD. Can you please take a look. Thanks --Aminz 07:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Can you please take a look at the details under my keep vote. Thanks --Aminz 07:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I saw your comment on the talk page of the article.(In general i found your comments one of the most helpful ones). Peace. --Aminz 06:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi TShilo12, I am now convinced that the article should have been deleted. But I think the status that Cohen's arguments (shared by many others) enjoy in the scholarship was quite downplayed in the AfD discussion. I think I made a mistake in choosing the title of the article. I can discuss this issue in great detail if you would like. --Aminz 09:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Would you please let me know what you think about the relation between scholarship and politics? In particular about the following quote from a review of the book "Muslim Authors on Jews and Judaism" published in the Journal of Semitic Studies(Oxford University Press):

The relationships between the Jews and the Arabs throughout history have been the subject of numerous studies over many centuries. However, as long as the continuous Arab-Israeli conflict has not found a solution, historians will search through the past in order to find new evidence to prove the antiquity of the tension between the two communities and to illuminate its causes. The vicissitudes which have marked the lives of the Jews who lived under Arab rule or side-by-side with Muslims add to the complexity of the issue, and a great many of the assertions about Arab-Jewish relations made by scholars and amateurs alike are sheer speculation. This is particularly true of writers who strongly identify with either camp and have become emotionally involved in the subject. Consequently, the views they usually hold are often unbalanced, if not biased.

Next, would you please let me know what you personally think about the status of Jews under the Muslim rule as compared with their status under Christian rule? Which one was more relaxed? Or were the approximately the same? Thanks --Aminz 09:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

A "new" category that is not new.[edit]

Hi Tomer, Shavua Tov: I have a question. I have just come across Category:Jewish diaspora, which someone claimed was a "new" category, but unbeknownst to him when he created it as "new" in July 2006 [4], the category was actually voted for deletion in October 2005, see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 October 16#Category:Jewish diaspora. What is the procedure in such a case? Can it be automatically deleted or does it need to be resubmitted all over again? Thanks for your help. IZAK 10:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks. It's been taken care of now. IZAK 03:01, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Possible libelous article[edit]

Hi Tomer, please take a look at the way the article about Rabbi Milton Balkany has been written by David Spart (talk · contribs) (who tends to write in a provocative way about Lubavitch). I am concerned that the Milton Balkany article may violate WP:LIBEL and open up a slew of problems. What do you think? Thanks for taking the time. IZAK 02:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

WHY?[edit]

You deleted a real virus called the Goon Virus. There was no other Wikipedia pages on the Goon Virus meaning it was not interfering with ANY searches. It was a real event even if you don't believe it. It hurt NO ONE. It made the creators happy to have proof of such a life changing event to them. You had no reason for your removal of that page. O yea I am not looking at the grammer or spelling of this page. I write this in furry. So I know there are plenty of typos. --Rebelscotts3 21:38, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I hope my title change has fixed all the problems with the personal attacks.--Rebelscotts3 22:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


Tomer i believe a citation is needed at with the below statement "One of these days you'll be perfect like me."

tomer you are a stuck up person who has no life. you edit wikipedia for a hobby and you have done nothing to serve this nations betterment. go ahead block me i don't care one bit. cause i'm not changing my page's description.

TfD nomination of Template:Orthodox Judaism[edit]

Template:Orthodox Judaism has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. IZAK 08:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

New York State hamlet notability standards[edit]

It's taken me a while, but I finally decided you had a point and started a discussion on just what would make a small unincorporated community in New York notable enough for a separate article. You're welcome to join in ... it might make that page less quiet. Daniel Case 18:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I will not be merging the Seager article into the larger article on the Town of Hardenburgh after all ... it seems like I was the one who put it into the Ulster County navbox in the first place. Hoist by my own petard. Daniel Case 18:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Barak Kaiba[edit]

Hi Tomer, I came across this "user" page at User:Barak Kaiba and I cannot make heads or tails of it. Barak Kaiba (talk · contribs)'s don't go beyond writing up this piece of of self-glorification. In User:Barak Kaiba#Early Life he says: "Barak Kaiba was born Barak Zimri HaLevy on 1 Aprilst, 1992 in Tel Aviv, Israel to two Orthodox Jewish parents named Avner and Elisheva HaLevy." So I think this is just a violation of WP:NOT#MYSPACE, WP:HOAX and the former WP:VANITY. It's just some kid trying to get around Wikipedia's (by now labyrinthine) rules (that just keep on growing) and the page needs needs some admin attention to be deleted. Thanks for your care. IZAK 07:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Boquerón (disambiguation)[edit]

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Gracenotes[edit]

Hi. I'm sufficiently disgusted at the way Gracenotes' adminship request is going that I no longer wish to comment further on that page, however I could use a little clarification here. You refer to User:Dabljuh and then appear to use Gracenotes' interaction with this user as partial grounds for opposition. Problem is, I can't find any such interaction. Gracenotes had fewer than 60 edits at the time of Dablijuh's final block, and does not appear to have communicated with this user, or edited any pages which this user edited. Please tell me you are not confusing this user with User:Grace Note – they are not the same user, and indeed they are very different; your use of the abbreviation "GN" gives me a worrying suspicion that you may have done so – Gurch 13:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Just pinging you again; this is a rather substantial issue – as far as I can tell you're effectively voicing your opposition against someone completely unrelated to the discussion – so even if you're not planning on contributing to the discussion further I'd appreciate a response as quickly as possible. I don't believe you're at fault, it's a simple mistake, but a significant one. Thanks – Gurch 01:18, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Sheesh. Gurch, enhance your calm. Your unmittigated advocacy is becoming tiresome. After some of the remarks you've made, I'm inclined to strike my previous rationale for "oppose" and replace it purely with "if Gurch is supporting, I must oppose". You're verging on trollish with some of the things you're saying, and in many cases, I think, far overstepping the bounds of WP:DICK and WP:AGF. Chill out and let the RfA stand on its own merits. At this point, if it ultimately fails, from the stance of "numbers games", it's going to be because of your activities more than anything else. Please, just settle down. You're becoming irritatingly shrill. Tomertalk 05:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
That would have made the discarding of your vote as irrelevant all the more easier, certainly. I notice you still haven't contested my claim that you mistook Gracenotes for another user, which makes no sense; if you did in fact oppose his adminship you would have changed your rationale to reflect the actual reason, whereas if you did not oppose it you would surely have at least stricken your comment and possibly left a comment in another section.
I'm less concerned with "advocacy" than preventing such gross mistreatment as a candidate being granted or refused adminship based on the actions of a completely different user. I removed a support vote from someone who voted twice and would happily have commented on the votes of supporters who had mistaken Gracenotes for someone else had I spotted any; while those who provide little or no comment could well have done this there are none that I could be sure of.
I don't see my rationale as trolling but rather as perfectly logical; Gracenotes had no contact with the user you brought up as rationale for your opposition and wasn't even active then; Grace Note was – Gurch 16:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Wausau, Florida[edit]

You reverted some edits on the page for this town, edits that had themselves been a reversion of edits from an anonymous editor. The anonymous editor had changed the town's population to 23,398 from just 398. Someone reverted this, and you then switched it back to 23,398. I'm not familiar with the town, but am nearly 100% sure that the 398 version is correct: the town looks to be that size on Google Earth, the 398 number is confirmed elsewhere, and the 23,398 number is greater than the total number of people who live in the county. I'm not leaving this message to hector you, but because I've never been to this town and I really can't be certain. Do you know one way or the other? 75.183.8.246 21:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Jewish_Encyclopedia_Arnon_Gorge.jpg[edit]

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Jewish_Encyclopedia_Arnon_Gorge.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page for more information if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. MER-C 12:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Jewishencyclopedia.com[edit]

JewishEncyclopedia.com claims the copyright on the images they have posted from the 1901-1906. However, those images are in the public domain and are ineligible for copyright. Slapping a "(c)" on them cannot change that. I believe it's been addressed a number of times on WP. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 00:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Hasidic Mediation Cabal case needs serious help[edit]

Hi Tomer: You may perhaps be able to help solve the logjam at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-04-29 Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty) between Klezmer (talk · contribs) and ChosidFrumBirth (talk · contribs). An additional question being raised is if Wikipedia should define a "Hasidic dynasty," see Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-04-29 Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty)#Response to mediator: from Klezmer. Any attention and help you may wish to render would be greatly appreciated. Wikipedia has gained many diverse articles about Hasidic Judaism that can be found nowhere else on the web, and this case may help to resolve and establish some important precedants and guidelines. But right now, the matter is stalled and needs outside help before it heads for more serious mediation. Thank you, IZAK 12:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

fix please[edit]

on Image:G77countries.png, Marajó, Hainan, and the Argentine half of Tierra del Fuego are not colored properly. please fix and reupload. Cheers, Tomertalk 04:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Uf. I see also that Nicaragua, Jamaica and Burundi are also not colored as they should be... Tomertalk 04:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Argh! Fiji, Samoa, and Tonga also show up large enough to be colored on the map...especially if the effort can be made to indicate that Bahrain is a member... Cheers, Tomertalk 04:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Marajó, Hainan, and the Argentine half of Tierra del Fuego are properly colored now
Nicaragua, Jamaica, Fiji are now properly colored
Burundi was properly colored. Thats the blob to the south but Rwanda was not. I fixed that.
Tonga and Samoa are not visible on the blank version of the map (as far as I can see) so I cannot color them. Because it is at the middle of nowhere (Pacific) I am unable to pinpoint its location. If you can provide me which ones I am to color, I can do it.
You may need to refresh your browser to properly view the changes
Is there any way else I can help?
-- Cat chi? 15:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, if you look at a map of the Pacific, you'll see that Samoa and Tonga are the only things visible east of Fiji (at least on the rhs of the map.  :-) Tomertalk 18:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, besides Samoa and Tonga, the dots in the Indian Ocean, northeast and east of Madagascar, respectively, are the Seychelles and Mauritius. The Bahamas are not colored, and should be, but Puerto Rico is, and should not be. And...that's all she wrote!  :-) Tomertalk 23:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
All marked. Puerto Rico demarked. -- Cat chi? 23:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks for doing that. My OCD was really bothering me. ;-) Tomertalk 23:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Question...the article for the image states that Palestine is a member of the G77. [citation needed] calls... Any ideas? Tomertalk 22:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC) nm. found. Tomertalk 22:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... [5] does count Palestine as a member. Would you mind reviewing that map and the list? -- Cat chi? 22:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
The list includes Palestine, which is not only not a member of the UN, it is not (and never has been) a country. Therefore, the West Bank, presently marked in green on the map, probably should not be. Marking the WBank as a stand-in of sorts for Palestine, assumes the outcome of status talks which are, presently, completely stalled. Cheers, Tomertalk 22:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
The West Bank is currently considered under international law to be de jure a territory not part of any state. The United Nations Security Council,[1] the United Nations General Assembly,[2] the International Court of Justice,[3] and the International Committee of the Red Cross[4] refer to it as occupied by Israel.
Not sure if I want to do that. We have a source (official one) that calls it to be a member. I'd like to know more about special circumstances involving Palestine before taking any action. -- Cat chi? 23:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're referring to by "[n]ot sure if I want to do that." We have an official source that calls it a member of an organization...but that's Palestine, which is a group of organizations, not a country. Regardless, even if the outcome of status talks assigns the West Bank (occupied 1948-1967 by Jordan, occupied 1967-2007ff by Israel) to a new country called "Palestine", the West Bank is not presently Palestine, it is presently the West Bank of the Jordan River, and therefore should not be colored. It presently is. Tomertalk 23:31, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. -- Cat chi? 23:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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Re: bizarre edit[edit]

I was asked to make a large number of edits like that by User:Zscout370. OTRS is the system used to handle confidential requests sent to the Wikimedia foundation, so I trust that he had a good reason for making the request. If you have any further questions, you should contact Zscout370 directly, since I do not have access to OTRS and am not familiar with the details. — Carl (CBM · talk) 01:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

correcting[edit]

The heyde center in Chippewa Falls is not a nursing home. The people of Chippewa use it for concerts and other forms of entertainment like said in the Chippewa Falls talk page. R d the savior 20:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

My RFA[edit]

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Your edits to Llama[edit]

Hello. I disagree with your removal of informaiton from the Llama article. However, I agree that the information probably could be better placed. Would you consider placing it ina History or something similar section? --BlindEagletalk~contribs 19:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I can see where you're going with it. I do think the piece we're discussing is original text from when the article was created. Also, the information being presented is important enough to note and not omit. I will place it in the Camelid article. --BlindEagletalk~contribs 13:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Chennai vs. Madras[edit]

All I do is search for the words in Google, but here it is: Chennai: 17.1 million Madras: 9.79 million CES 00:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Hebrew according to the Aqademya[edit]

Greetings: This is something as to which I've been curious lately, and I'm wondering if you might be able to enlighten me. Do you know the Aqademya's positions/prescriptions concerning the "proper" pronunciation of modern Hebrew? If so, I'll go more in-depth with what I would like to know. Sorridom 17:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks. That answers a lot of questions for me, though it creates some as well. Particularly, I've heard several times of pharyngeal articulation being the "proper" and/or "official" way of pronouncing the ח and ע, and of an alveolar trill being "preferred" by the Aqademya for ר. Sorridom 20:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

{{Jew list}}[edit]

Please note that {{Jew list}}, which you started, is on WP:TFD. -N 01:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Puerto Rico June 2007 Newsletter[edit]

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Tavistock disambiguation page[edit]

Hi, I see you moved the article for the town in Devon to Tavistock, Devon and created a disambig page at [[Tavistock]]. You will be pleased to know that I have now spent 8 hours fixing almost all the wikilinks (about 200 or so) which your move rendered incorrect. One of them should have pointed to the Tavistock in Canada, a handful to the former Parliamentary constituency (which you had omited from the disambig page), and a couple to the (likewise omitted by you) Tavistock Clinic. May I suggest that next time you move a page in this way you read Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links and then consider 1) is the move entirely necessary, and 2) maybe you could fix some of the misdirected links resulting from your actions. DuncanHill 16:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I have no idea whatsoever why you tell me to read the placename conventions - I did not create the original article, just fixed the mess resulting from your move. DuncanHill 16:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

re Tavistock[edit]

Good job and kudos on your hard work. In the future, please read the placename naming conventions. kthxbye Tomertalk 16:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I was just giving you some equally unneeded advice. I haven't had time to do much editing on Wikipedia of late, as you can plainly see, since you've obviously been going through my contributions. If you're unhappy that it took you so long to, to paraphrase you, fix the mess I made, perhaps you don't understand how wikipedia works. If everyone took the same unnecessarily hostile and condescending tone as you have, Wikipedia would fall apart in a week. Tomertalk 16:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
You have made plenty of edits after your unnecessary move of Tavistock, not one of which was concerned with correcting the links which you made invalid. If you had bothered to mention the London disambiguation page in your first message above, I would not have felt it necessary to reply to you in the way I did. I corrected one grammatical error made by you today. DuncanHill 16:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
If Chambers is the only dictionary you can find that defines "kidnap" as a noun, I think characterizing my saying it isn't a noun barely qualifies as a grammatical error...if anything, it strengthens my position. Regardless, I doubt even Chambers bothers to try to declare "abduction" a verb (although it wouldn't surprise me terribly if they did), so "abduction" should be less questionable as a word choice.
As for my edits since Tavistock, you'll note that, with the exception of my dubiously entertaining discussion with you, I have not spent a great deal of time engaged in editing. My edits have, instead, with the exception of the TfD discussion, been itty bitty little things I've caught in passing. As for the way you replied, your reply was not nearly so aggravating as your initial message was. Anyways. Are you done with Tavistock? Or do you want some help finishing up? I have about half an hour I could spend more productively IRL, but if you want I can help you with that or with some other project of your choosing. Regards, Tomertalk 16:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Kidnap as a noun. Chambers Dictionary is the one I had to hand, OED has it as a noun too. Maybe this is a difference between British and American usages. Kidnap is commonly used as a noun in British usage. I am insufficiently familiar with American usage or dictionaries to make proper comparison. Chambers does not list abduction as a verb. Maybe you should acquire a copy.
    I've heard kidnap used as a noun by Brits, but always assumed it was substandard usage. Perhaps it really is just a BrE/AmE difference, I don't know. Tomertalk 17:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I took a quick look at your edit history to see if you had been active since the Tavistock move, and saw that you had, but had not fixed any of the misdirected links. This did irritate me - I do feel that when an editor makes a move he or she should check "what links here" and at least make a start on correcting wikilinks.
    I was in the midst of a project that had something to do with the Tavistock in Ontario, which is the only reason I went to the article...I wanted to know where it was so I could figure out what timezone they were in. I didn't have time to do much else, and as I found out yesterday, everything I did for the client concerned ultimately turned out to be a colossal waste of time, since I was missing two critical pieces of information. Suckysuckysucky. I concur that efforts should be made to straighten out links when pages are moved, and if you dig deeply enough into my edit history, you'll find that I've expended a great deal of effort in this exercise in the past. You just happened to land on the exception. Tomertalk 17:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The most recent edit you had made had an edit summary which, to me, made no sense as you declared "kidnap is not a noun". This irritated me further.
    Prozac?  ;-) Tomertalk 17:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • In short, I could (and probably should) have phrased my initial message to you in a more conciliatory tone, but the substance of what I said I stand by. Misdirected links devalue the work we all do on Wikipedia, making it a less useful resource, and undermining the work of others. To make one edit that corrupts 200 articles, and then do nothing about it is not the way to help Wikipedia grow. DuncanHill 16:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
    I know and understand... I've gotten irritated w/ fellow editors in the past myself. I think "corrupts" is a bit overboard, but I sympathize with the aggravation. I've got a touch of OCD myself. :-p Tomertalk 17:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Anyway, I'm off to Cubs now, I see you've been fixing the remaining bad links for Tavistock - Thanks :) DuncanHill 16:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Yup, and my time is up. What remains is mostly irrelevant or in userspaces where I'm not sure what the editors wanted. I've left messages for those editors on their talkpages. Good luck with the cub scouts. Regards, Tomertalk 17:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Ugh. One more[edit]

The link in User:Emijrp/Coord is supposed to be to Tavistock, Devon, but I can't get the monstrous page to open. If you could try it, or leave User:Emijrp a note, that'd be grand. Cheers, Tomertalk 17:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

It must be huge - I can't get into it either. DuncanHill 20:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, for now we'll hafta lump it, I guess. It's not in articlespace anyways. Meanwhile, I've left a note at es:Usuario discusión:Emijrp#en:Tavistock. If that elicits no response, I'll write it in Spanish. If that doesn't work, I'll just forget about it and move on. Anyhoo... Cheers, Tomertalk 03:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Good description of Arab-Jewish relations[edit]

Hats off for writing the truth (the apologists on this site will stoop to anything). I would just take out the word "overwhelming," which is ummm... a little on the overwhelming side, and find some academic source to back it up with. --Gilabrand 10:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

10/40 window map[edit]

It's been a long time, but I am pretty sure I made the map in question from a different source website than the one you cited. Though naturally I do not recall which one, it was linked from the article at that time and had the countries exactly as I colored them on the map. I checked three times to be sure I had it right. I suppose with this new source I should fix the image, which I will get to soon. Thanks for the notification. Danthemankhan 23:16, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Puerto Rico July 2007 Newsletter[edit]

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Yavneh Minyan[edit]

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Your accusations[edit]

You need to stop making vague and unsupported accusations of anti-Semitism against editors and admins you disagree with ([6]). If you have some evidence that someone's an anti-Semite, that's one thing. Smearing a large group of people, apparently largely because you don't agree with them, is inappropriate and, if it continues, likely to be dealt with harshly. MastCell Talk 15:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Your accusations on the administrators' noticeboard are totally unacceptable. Please withdraw them. -- ChrisO 18:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Wisconsin[edit]

Sunset over Lake Winnebago

I notice that you left WikiProject Wisconsin. I have very much enjoyed working with you on the WikiProject and I always found you to be pleasant. I give you an image of what I consider the best view in Wisconsin (and I've been to all 72 counties) to thank you for all that you did for the WikiProject. Royalbroil 21:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about incorrectly stating that you left WikiProject Wisconsin. Enjoy the view anyhow! I live about 5 miles from this wonder! Royalbroil 22:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

European People[edit]

I gotten into a minor argument on Talk:European people about whether Ashkenazim are an European ethnic group. The claim (which I have challenged) is that because Jews come from the Middle East and seldom intermarry with "native" Europeans, we can speak of "European Jews" but not say that Jews are a European ethnic group. This sounds like a matter of semantics; I personally do not have such a strong investment in the view, but I do know some hold the view and for me it is a matter of NPOV to acknowledge it. However, in the context of other debates on this page and other articles, I think what is at stake is a highly racialized notion of ethnicity that has been used to justify viewing Jews as permanent outsiders in Europe - a view that in light of the twentieth century cannot be innocent. Please consider commenting (look at the bottom) Slrubenstein | Talk 00:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Puerto Rico August Newsletter[edit]

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Moving Benicio Del Toro to Benicio del Toro[edit]

Seeing as you're a participant in WikiProject Puerto Rico, I wish to invite you to participate in the survey at Talk:Benicio Del Toro on whether the article on Benicio del Toro should be moved from Benicio Del Toro to Benicio del Toro. Timeineurope 14:33, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Puerto Rico September 2007 Newsletter[edit]

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Enjoy! --Agüeybaná 16:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Tribute to "the Marine"

I would like to pay a small tribute in this edition to Tony "the Marine". Editing since May 24, 2004, he has been one of our project's most active editors and has become one of Wikipedia's most recognized writers. He has authored over 400 articles, including 4 Featured Articles, 1 Featured List, 10 Good Articles, and 28 DYKs. His name has appeared in newspapers and magazines and has been mentioned by politicians and artists. He has brought Puerto Rico's history and its people to the web. He has shown the world that Puerto Ricans have done much more than just be gangsters and drug dealers. He has shown the world that we have contributed to history and the world just as much as any other group of people.

On September 29, 2007, Tony announced that we would not be writing for Wikipedia anymore. We, the members of this project, are sad that he will not be able to continue to spread the word of Hispanics' contributions here on the web, but I, for one, feel honored that he has entrusted us with the duty of continuing and improving his excellent work.

Tony, rest assured that your contributions, your wisdom, and the help you provided to all of us when we were new users will be remembered for generations. Que Dios te bendiga, Tony, y que tu recompensa sea grande en el Reino de los Cielos.

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User:YItzhak Hudas[edit]

Hello Tomer. You are right, my tone with this user was not good. The background is that I had several run-ins with User:Hkelkar. For a long time I dealt with him with far more patience than was managed by any other editor. He accused me more than once of antisemitism, then apologised, then when he was accused of the violations of policy that eventually got him banned, he begged me to support him, but when I saw the diffs I didn't feel I could. Following that, he has returned regularly in the form of sockpuppets and IPs, wikistalking me and some other editors. On this occasion the irony is that I was going to go directly to putting in a Wikiquette advice request but it said that you should have already warned the user. I tried to do that and did so rather impatiently. I know that I have a tendency to engage with people who turn out to be trolls but this time I have probably gone too far the other way. You're a really experienced user, I know, and if you had time to cast an eye on the Dalit Voice and V.T. Rajshekar pages, I would very much appreciate it. Itsmejudith 13:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Further to the above and to your edits to the relevant pages, I wondered if you had an opinion about whether the balance of material is right between the Dalit Voice and the V.T. Rajshekar pages and whether there is too much overlap. I've found this very difficult to get right when edits that I consider to enhance NPOV and to be well within WP guidelines have been immediately reverted with edit summaries accusing POV. With more people editing it should be easier. Best wishes. Itsmejudith 08:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Help with Swiss Jews article[edit]

Hi Tomer, Shavua Tov. Could you do your admin magic and move the Swiss Jews (fix the redirect) to its true name as History of the Jews in Switzerland to fit in with all the other articles in Category:Jewish history by country. One or two people had some discussion about this a while back (see Talk:Swiss Jews#Requested move) but it is ridiculous to claim that there is "consensus" if 99% of all articles are like this, and the only exception is for true/unique Jewish ethnicities, such as Georgian Jews for example. Thanks a lot, IZAK 17:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Help with Jews in the Philippines article[edit]

Hi, the Jews in the Philippines article needs the same thing as above, help to go to History of the Jews in the Philippines. Thanks. IZAK 15:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Help with Jews and Judaism in Japan article[edit]

Hi again, same thing with the Jews and Judaism in Japan needs to go to History of the Jews in Japan. These are the odd men out. IZAK 15:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Your sig[edit]

Tomer, hello. I note your signature still has a link to Esperanza, despite the fact that this is now an inactive project. Is that intentional? JFW | T@lk 00:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Approve of new sig, apart from the fact that I cannot see a link between the letter "E" and contributions (apart of course from editcountitis). JFW | T@lk 08:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Jewish history of Wales & N. Ireland needed[edit]

Hello Tomer: Hope all goes well with you and yours. The series of articles on the History of the Jews in Europe is complete. All the European countries have articles, even if they are stubs for now. However there are still two more: History of the Jews in Wales and History of the Jews in Northern Ireland (see related articles History of the Jews in England and History of the Jews in Scotland) that are listed as countries in template {{|Europe topic|History of the Jews in}} that require someone to add information and start the article. If you are able to, your efforts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, IZAK 13:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

re: Rav[edit]

Thank you Face-smile.svg -- Avi 15:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Jewish Bolshevism & The Jewish Bolshevism & Żydokomuna[edit]

Hi again Tomer: Very troubling developments at Jewish Bolshevism & The Jewish Bolshevism & Żydokomuna. Why three articles about the same antisemitic and hateful subject? Maybe it's time to look into this a little deeper. Thank you, IZAK 17:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Admin help required with vandalism of nomination page[edit]

Hi Tomer: Unfortunately, there is a user Ludvikus (talk · contribs) who is tampering with the formatting of a nomination page [7]. See the wildness of what he is doing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Protocols of Zion (imprints). He is inserting and changing the original formatting and even the wording, totally unheard of. Please take a look at it. Thanks a lot. IZAK 15:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Bnei Menashe[edit]

"what on earth? That is _not_ what the article says. this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a 2nd grade book report"

Dude, I'll ignore your hilarious assessment and instead question your comprehension of English.........that is exactly what it says.

"Having successfully completed this task, the priest would place the animal on an altar and offer it up to God, in the process reciting a series of ancient Bnei Menashe chants and prayers. Perhaps the most extraordinary of them is known among the Bnei Menashe as "Miriam's song." We had to cross the Red Sea," it began. "Our enemies were coming after us with chariots but the sea swallowed them all as if they were meat. We are led by the cloud during the day and by fire at night. Take those birds for the food, and drink water coming out from the rock."

Now you may not like this but I have checked with a range of Kuki Chin elders; their collective opinion is that not only the name "Miriam's Song" but everything the non-English/Hebrew-speaking 81yo Mendel Kingbol is reported as claiming in this partisan article by Michael Freund is balderdash to put it kindly. Finally, these are NOT your people or your history being discussed, it's mine. You share a religion, not an ethnicity; the sooner you accept that and get on with supporting them in a practical manner instead of petty wiki comments/deletions, the better their chances of integrating into Israeli society. Migration is tough on anyone, including the faithful.Cheers, Junglebells Jinglebells01 —Preceding comment was added at 22:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

why has no one exposed the SOCKPUPPET Jinglebells01 (a/k/a Junglebells, Hellsbells222, Hellsbellsinheaven, etc.), the user with the most contributions to the Bnei Menashe page & a particular thorn in your side? Divebomber1 —Preceding comment was added at 16:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Divebomber old chap, please see my user page and the BM discussion page re my alleged *sockpuppetry*. I have no interest in being a thorn in TShilo AKA Tomer's or anyone else's side:-( but thank you for pointing out that I've made the most contributions to the BM page - especially as it's been rated B and midlevel importance, not to mention the most linked page for the BM! Was it by any chance you or an alterego who tried to block me as a suspected sockpuppet??? Junglebells 02:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:Shalom[edit]

Just to clarify a bit. 1. The word offensive was perhaps over the top but Luzzatto was a prominent Bible scholar (if a bit outdated) and I was unhappy with the way you pushed him off w/o source or counterargument. 2. I did not add the Shalom etymology but it is certainly within the realm of possibility. If the word Yiru Shalem by MalkiTsedex is referring to Shalim (as EJ) thinks it is very small step to the modern word shalom from WP:Ugaritic "The vocabulary is amazingly close to biblical Hebrew — many Ugaritic words are letter-for-letter the same as biblical Hebrew" definitely not ridiculous. BestWolf2191 02:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Shalom[edit]

Pagan was my inexact translation. I take it you don't read hebrew. He actually compares him to the Roman Jupiter who is above all other gods (i.e. henotheism). Interesting that you found only "some" of his arguments against Maimoniddes invalid (Zvi Chajes has whole work Tiferes Moshe to counteract Shadal on Rambam) and all of his arguments against Ibn Ezra invalid (Shadal later backed down on this position). Shadal's distinction between Atticism and Judaism was mainly a response to the Enlightenment and the Reform movement (the Reformers used Maimonides reasons for mitzvos (to counteract idolatry) as an excuse to call for the abrogation of the commandments.) I don't believe that he really felt that way about Rambam or Ibn Ezra. In any event, agree with you that this particular etymology needed better sourcing and wording. All the Best Wolf2191 03:36, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Shadal and Hirsch[edit]

Then you must have similar complaints against R' Samson Raphael Hirsch who also attacked Maimonides reasons for mitzvot, for much the same reason. (From which source did you read up on Shadal that left ou with such a negative impression? He was one of the few Modern Rabbis who had a geniuine love for Judaism and attempted to transmit this love to the Jews of his generation) Gutt VochWolf2191 04:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Nominations of Texas Jews articles for deletion[edit]

Hi Tomer: Your input would be greatly appreciated at the discussion Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Nominations of Texas Jews articles for deletion. Thanks a lot, IZAK 21:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

{{Asia topic}}[edit]

Please assume good faith. Why on earth would I be vandalising a template I created and frequently maintain? The template is used on many articles, and your edit broke it on most. There is lots of explanation of how the template works on its talk page, or at Wikipedia:Guidelines for "(Continent/region) topic" templates. Warofdreams talk 01:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Consider yourself forgiven! The continent topic templates do get a lot of similar edits from users who usually quickly realise their mistake, but I probably should have used an edit summary when reverting to ensure my reasons were clear. Warofdreams talk 00:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Serious discussions about using the names Reform vs. Progressive Judaism[edit]

Hi Tomer: Please see the present discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/open tasks#WikiProject Judaism needs help - geographical bias concerns. Your input would be greatly appreciated. (They are the result of the discussions that unfolded at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Concern about duplicating Reform and Progressive labels.) Thanks so much, IZAK 08:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Notability[edit]

Hi Tomer. I was interested in your edit summary: "if it's not notable, it shouldn't be on WP. Saying it's notable in the article itself is an expression of POV.)" I don't care so much about the edit you may, but I don't think it's a POV problem. At most, it's an expression of Wikipedia's assessment that the subject is notable, but that's not considered a "POV" in our lingo. Perhaps it's just bad writing, but I often do describe the nature of the notability in the lead of an article. See WP:LEAD -- "The lead should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article, establishing context, summarizing the most important points, explaining why the subject is interesting or notable, and briefly describing its notable controversies, if there are any." emphasis added, Thanks muchly. HG | Talk 16:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Jewish canon or Bible Canon[edit]

Hi Tomer: I just came across the Jewish canon article. What to make of it is the big question. It draws partially from the Jewish Encyclopedia article. Maybe the entire Jewish Encyclopedia BIBLE CANON article should just be reproduced in its entirety? I will pose this question to the sages @ WP:JUDAISM. Thanks, IZAK 06:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Massacre of Uman[edit]

Hi, IZAK brought this page to my attention and asked me to contact you. The article is written from a slanted point of view, mentions Jews almost in passing, and gives no references. Aside from the poor writing, it describes a scenario with which I am unfamiliar from other history sources. According to the Jewish History Page[8], Gonta, the Polish commander, enlisted the services of the Jews and then betrayed them. Here is the summary of what happened:

1768 June 18, HAIDAMAK MASSACRES (Ukraine)
Reached Uman. The peasant serfs and Cossacks rioted much in the same vein as Chemielnicki one hundred and twenty years earlier. At Uman, the Poles and Jews defended the city together under the Polish commander, Ivan Gonta. The next day, convinced by Zheleznyak the Polish revolutionary that only the Jews would be attacked, Gonta allowed the fortified city to be entered without a fight. Approximately 8000 Jews were killed, many of them trying to defend themselves near the synagogue. As soon as the Jews were all massacred, the Haidamaks (the paramilitary bands) began to kill the Poles. Although the Haidamacks began in the 1730's, the main rioting was during the years 1734, 1750 and 1768. It is estimated that during these years 20,000 Jews were killed. The Haidamaks became part of the Ukrainian national movement and are celebrated in folklore and literature.

I suggest that the Wikipedia article be re-written or pulled. Kol tuv, Yoninah 09:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Syrian Jews issues[edit]

Hi Tomer: Recently some articles about Syrian Jews have been created by User David Betesh (talk · contribs) which are informative. He created Musta'arabim (very fascinating) but without sources. He also created the Syrian Jews article which, while it does have important things to say about the uniqueness of Syrian Jews per se, creates the question how to reconcile this with the main History of the Jews in Syria article. Thanks, IZAK 08:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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I'm baffled by your behaviour. I don't recall ever having interacted with you before your first personal attack against me back in August, and as an admin you of all people should know that WP:NPA means what it says. I'm happy to let this go if you withdraw your claims (I note that you never replied to my earlier request at #Your accusations above), but if not I think you'll have to expect to be blocked for this. -- ChrisO 20:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Please see the discussion on AN/I. I'm calling on you again to retract the anonymous unsourced libels you posted about me. If you don't, I think the community will draw the appropriate conclusions about you. -- ChrisO 16:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Media copyright questions[edit]

I'm not sure I follow you. The image was untagged when OrphanBot visited it. According to the page history, you uploaded it to the English Wikipedia at 8:05, untagged even after the subsequent edit [9], OrphanBot tagged it at 9:09, you made a series of edits ending at 9:31 when it ended up finally tagged -- the current version -- and you posted at WP:MCQ at 9:35.

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Blocked for 24 hours[edit]

I have blocked you for 24 hours for these edits to a closed ArbCom case. Unsubstantiated, repeated, and very serious personal attacks against another editor are simply not acceptable. If there is evidence to support your claims, then you need to produce it. If there is no such evidence, or if you don't wish to produce it, then you need to realize that Wikipedia is not a venue for you to make such insinuations. Commenting on a volatile ArbCom case weeks after it's been closed can only be seen as an ill-advised attempt to re-inflame and perpetuate the divisive issues dealt with there and serves absolutely no constructive purpose. This block has been submitted to WP:AN/I for review, and as always if you feel it is unjustified you may post an {{unblock}} template or email unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org. MastCell Talk 22:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Union for Traditional Judaism[edit]

I protected the page after several anonymous IPs repeatedly deleted sourced material, including material oh David Weiss HaLivni's responsum in his prior incarnation as a member of the Conservative movement on the ordination of women as rabbis. Since I wrote much of the article this is a COI. Would it be possible to check the article briefly and see if you agree with what I've done? Thanks, --Shirahadasha 20:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at this! I suppose this is something of a lesson for me; I started out perceiving simple vandalism but the protection forced the editors involved to get accounts and start explaining themselves on the talk page. Once they did that, it appears they were right on a majority of the points. Best, --Shirahadasha 05:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Cheers[edit]

I replied on my talk page. - 211.30.71.131 (talk) 14:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

November 2007[edit]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Bukhori language. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Nn123645 (talk) 18:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be in a Content dispute/edit war on Bukhori language. Please be sure to observe WP:Civil and assume good faith. Also the ideal place to debate content is on the talk page, not in the edit summuries. Nn123645 (talk) 18:18, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I have opened up a RfC on LeeMulod333 at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/LeeMulod333. Nn123645 (talk) 06:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

FYI I left the following note for you on the "Bukharan/Bukharian" page. Well it is certainly nice to see that the traditional Jewish traits of argumentativeness and stubborness transcend Jewish ethnic identities. But I must say that, in reviewing the "talk", it would appear that Tomer is substantially more argumentative and stubborn than the rest. To assert that a certain historical spelling of an English word ("Bukharan") is preferable to another, more recent spelling ("Bukharian"), and to base the assertion on Google hits and historical usage, is literally linguistic ludditism. By Tomer's logic, he would be justified in blocking all users who change "his" to "his/her"; all users who change "negro" to "African American," and, I suppose, all users who change "thou" to "you." After all, there are 1,880,000,000 Google hits for 'his -"his/her"', 72,000,000 for 'his/her', and zero for 'his/her -his' (duh). There are 80,000,000 hits for 'negro -"african american"' and only 40,000,000 hits for '"african american" -negro'. The thou/you thing is purely "original research" (which is often the term used by the WikiPolice for "common sense.") For good measure, you might try to compare "Ms." to "Mrs.", "Gay cheerful" to "Gay homosexual", or "race" to "ethnic background." Historical words are deprecated all the time. One of the most common catalysts is the preference of the people described, and the deference of others to their wishes. I would suggest that Bukharian Jews care much more than anyone else what they are called. The proper thing for the rest of us is to defer to their wishes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.22.96 (talk) 04:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wisconsin[edit]

Thanks for the comment on the Wisconsin towns. Templates have been created for all counties, but most of them haven't been put on yet — see Dane County, compared to Vilas County. Overall, only 11 of them, including Vilas, are properly placed; the other 61 could do well with your help :-) Nyttend 23:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

History of the Jews in Singapore & Happy Hanukkah[edit]

Hi Tomer: There is a need for an article about the History of the Jews in Singapore. At the present time there are articles about the Chesed-El Synagogue and the Maghain Aboth Synagogue in Singapore that have some facts that may help such an article. Thanks a lot, and hope you will enjoy some sufganiyot. Happy Chanuka! IZAK (talk) 15:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

For you to enjoy on Hanukkah

Sufganiyot, yum-yum

Guidance needed at Template talk:Chabad[edit]

Hi Tomer. Hope you had a good Chanukah! There has been a sharp increase in the debate at Template talk:Chabad#Controversy Again! as part of ongoing differences of views between opposing editors, some of whom are pro-Chabad POV warriors and others. Please drop by and give this matter your consideration and input. It may help a lot because the way things are unfolding it looks like it may be headed for more serious arbitration which can hopefully be avoided. Thanks a lot, IZAK (talk) 08:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Semi protecting the article[edit]

Hi Tomer

I just wrote a similar message on User:Slofstra's talk page... I know you watch the Christian Conventions article so I want to know what you think too. As you know it is constantly being used as a place for people to air grievances -- possibly justified but that's not what WP is for... It's being edited by newer editors without any regard to WP:NPOV or WP:RELY (I don't know that privately-run websites can really be deemed reliable resources). Do you know if it's possible to semi-protect the article? I think the article is generally in a near-complete, stable state so it should be reverted to the last edit by Slofstra and then any non-minor changes be discussed on the talk page first.

What do you think? Donama (talk) 00:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

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User:TShilo12/Welcome[edit]

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help[edit]

Please respond to Bikinibomb's comments about figs and Judaism here, thanks Slrubenstein | Talk 00:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


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Burma again[edit]

Talk:Burma#Survey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.241.189.89 (talk) 04:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Problematic new Christian/Jewish template[edit]

Hi Tomer, good to see that your around. Please see the discussions at Template talk:Books of the Bible concerning the new troubled and troubling {{Books of the Bible}} template. Your attention to this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 05:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Pyramid scheme[edit]

I've removed the links you placed to Amway and Scientology on the Pyramid sceme article. Placement of these links violates WP:BLP, which requires that derogatory information (especially criminal allegations, which is what calling an organization a "pyramid scheme" amounts to) be very well-sourced. Please do not replace the links without providing reliable sources which show that the organizations are pyramid schemes. Argyriou (talk) 18:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hummus: Is it Jewish food?[edit]

Hi Tomer: I know you will get a kick out of this, see the bottom half of discussions at Talk:Hummus...where some claim it is not "Zionist" food. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 17:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Bet and vet[edit]

Thank you for your interesting edit to Syrian Jews about the pronunciation of bet raphe.

However, I took the liberty of moving it to Mizrahi Hebrew, as it is a discussion that goes far wider than just Syrian Jews. I also had some queries on the content, which I have put on the Mizrahi Hebrew talk page. Briefly, I believe that a /b/ pronunciation reflects Arabic influence, a /v/ pronunciation reflects Ladino influence, while a community influenced by modern Spanish (such as the Spanish and Portuguese Jews, or South Americans) will hover uncertainly between /b/ and /β/. --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) (talk) 10:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


MigdalOr[edit]

Could you take a look at the article and tell me what you think? It seems a bit undersourced, and its tone a bit non-neutral. I added some maintenance tags (e.g. {{refimprove}}) which were removed. Note that while a couple of impressive-looking sources are cited (e.g. a New York Times article on "indie minyanim", these sources don't actually mention the organization. Would it be possible to give an outside view? Thanks, --Shirahadasha (talk) 22:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Etymology of récipé[edit]

You say: "Etymologists disagree with your remarks, here and here, for example." Your first reference is to the "Online Etymology Dictionary", a website put together by a journalist and amateur historian with, as far as his bio indicates, no particular expertise or publication record in etymology or historical linguistics, so I don't think his Web site qualifies as a reliable source. Your second reference is just a copy of the first, so not an independent source at all. The OED, which by any standard is a reliable source though not, of course, perfect, says:

L. recipe take (2nd sing. imp. of recipere to RECEIVE), used by physicians (abbreviated R, Rx) to head prescriptions, and hence applied to these and similar formulae. So F. récipé (15th c.).

Perhaps he misinterpreted that "So F. récipé" to mean that English borrowed it from French, not directly from Latin; but all this means is that French also borrowed it from Latin, but wrote it as récipé. None of the quotations in the OED include accents, and one of the strengths of the OED is precisely in documenting variant spellings. --Macrakis (talk) 04:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Prod'd Eau Claire City Council[edit]

You are the only remaining significant contributor. I think it could easily be merged with Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Xavexgoem (talk) 03:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Red-tailed Hawk[edit]

Trouble is, with a widespread species, just adding foreign names, let alone local variations, soon leads to a disproportionate amount of the article being taking up with just alternative names. Cosmopolitan species like Osprey must have dozens of names, and even more restricted species like this are well-known enough to have names in most foreign languages.

Unless a species is endemic to a country, there is rarely a reason why any particular name is more notable than all the others. In this case, even the subspecies isn't endemic, nor is the type specimen likely to have come from there. Jimfbleak (talk) 16:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Well yes, but even I am a bit wary about wielding the axe to a near-GA standard article deeply immersed in projects I know nothing about. Doesn't seem to be an issue with the participants. Jimfbleak (talk) 18:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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Playa vs Salt pan[edit]

Hi Tomer, long time no chat! I see you added some clarity at Talk:Salt pan (geology), but nobody has yet remedied the confusion over Playa. I suggest that the content in both those articles about salt flats should be merged to a new article at Salt flat. Do you know enough to do it? Meanwhile, I have proposed merger of category:salt flats and category:salt pans. - Fayenatic (talk) 17:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Galápagos Islands task force[edit]

In answer to your project request, I created Galápagos Islands task force. GregManninLB (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

advise?[edit]

I forget the policy - is this the kind of joke people are welcome to make on their userpages, or is this the kind of thing that gets reported to AN/I or Jimbo? Slrubenstein | Talk 10:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Wisconsin barnstar[edit]

WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar.png The WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar
For all that you have done on Wisconsin articles and at WikiProject Wisconsin, I hereby award you the WikiProject Wisconsin barnstar. Thank you for everything! Royalbroil 17:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Your quiz is broken[edit]

It told me I have a (100%) northeastern accent. But then, I suppose it's my own fault for filling out a quiz that asks what kind of American accent I have. :)

So how are you doing? What are you up to? It's good to see you still around. Guettarda (talk) 03:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

For expressing your support for our troops, and for Assyrian independence. I share those views. I enjoyed being one of the few Middle Eastern People in my school supporting Israel, lol. Tourskin (talk) 01:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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RE:WikiProject Judaism Newsletter

Yup, it was my idea. One of those things that comes to you at five in the morning when you're staring at the ceiling. Well, anyway, let me know if you have any ideas for stories for next month's edition, and a happy fourth right back! L'Aquatique[happy fourth!] 04:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Jerusalem attack[edit]

Replied here. I also edited the article to err on the side of caution here. Everyme 15:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Thank you for the barnstar. I really appreciate it. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 03:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Stargate[edit]

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Van Gogh[edit]

I left comment on the talk page....basically start a new section in the article or would you prefer that I start one for you? Thanks... Modernist (talk) 15:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Done - see legacy [10] Modernist (talk) 15:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

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Semen

Hi:

Let's discuss the image, rather than getting into an edit war. I gather than you don't find value in the image, based on your comments. I don't think that on person should come along and remove an image that other people have been happy with in the article for some time. (See here [11] and [12]. I, and others have felt that the image has value, and offers a different perspective on the topic. Atom (talk) 22:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Images[edit]

You recently commented on Talk:Semen about the image situation; discussion has been ongoing, since, and more comments might be appreciated. – Luna Santin (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

List of G-77 Countries[edit]

I didnot find a list of members countries of G-77 which is very important to be here on easy front page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.71.217.14 (talk) 07:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure where you were looking... The Group of 77 article quite clearly lists the countries, and makes reference to the official membership list itself. Regards, Tomertalk 15:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Italian Jews[edit]

Some time ago you moved "Italkim" to Bené Roma. For reasons shown on the talk page to that article, I now feel that this is not fully satisfactory, and proposed that it should be merged with Italian Jews. (That is, that article should first explain the different categories, and then go on to describe the Italian-rite Jews in more detail.) Have you any views on this? --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) (talk) 09:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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The WikiProject Puerto Rico Newsletter

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Year II - Issue 1 - Summer 2008

"Confía en tu propia voluntad más que en hombre alguno sobre la tierra. Esa es tu fuerza, no soy yo tu fuerza. Tú mismo eres tu fuerza!" - Luis Muñoz Marín

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Hello, TShilo12. This is the fifth issue of WikiProject Puerto Rico's newsletter. The newsletter is intended to help all members to keep up with the latest news relating to the project. I will continue Eddie's format and willingness to include new material by request. As he once said, please help with the newsletter by suggesting content to be included on the newsletter by leaving a message on my talk page. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Se levanta un gigante dormido

Saludos to all, I present to you the new version of our project's Newsletter. It has been almost a year since the last edition, but rest assured that we haven't been lazy. Our Good Article count has raised by 11, while we have produced two Featured Lists and two Featured Articles. I will tweak the delivery format, from now on the Newsletter will be delivered per season. That means four anual editions, one for summer, fall, winter and spring. Speaking of summer, it has been a hot one, make sure to check out the project news below. I will also introduce a new section titled "Puerto Rican Highlight" where we will comment about positive accomplishments reached by Puerto Ricans and our representative organizations. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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Puerto Rican Highlight
On August 3, Tarah Gieger became the first athlete from Puerto Rico to win a gold medal at the Summer X Games. (ESPN Deportes) In 2007, Gieger also became the first woman to participate at a Motocross des Nations, being part of Team Puerto Rico.

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Personal attacks?[edit]

Or is it conflict of interest on your part? He said to watch out for POV-pushers, yet that's what he was doing. It needs to be said. There is no way around it. By the way, his post is actually working against consensus. --Pwnage8 (talk) 17:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Shana Tova[edit]

Hi Tshilo! May you have a happy Jewish New Year! -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:05, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Question of moving article - Wineville Chicken Murders[edit]

I checked with an expert on the case. The preferred name for this case is Wineville Chicken Coop Murders. How, do I move Wineville Chicken Murders to Wineville Chicken Coop Murders?

Thank you in advance for your assistance. --Dan Dassow (talk) 21:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.--Dan Dassow (talk) 01:20, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of List of Jews in sports[edit]

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Shalom![edit]

Still twerkin' it! ;-) — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 06:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings[edit]

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 02:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Spam in Hutchinson Technology[edit]

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Banderas[edit]

Hello, in light of recent discoveries, I am proposing a consensus concerning the colors of the flag of Puerto Rico in neutral articles. Please see the project's talk page for further detail. Thanks for your time. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Carelessness[edit]

Please take care when restoring your own edits not to undo the contibutions of others, minor though they may be (as you did here). Thanks. Causantin (talk) 21:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Puerto Rico Newsletter Year III - Issue 1 - Fall & Winter 2008-09[edit]

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Year III - Issue 1 - Fall & Winter 2008-09

"Yo exigí que se tocara La Borinqueña." - José Torres to Rafael Bracero, discussing the preparations for his championship fight against Willie Pastrano.

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Hello, TShilo12. This is the sixth issue of WikiProject Puerto Rico's newsletter. The newsletter is intended to help all members to keep up with the latest news relating to the project. Continuing our new format, this issue will discuss the news, achievements and other incidences relevant to our project between fall and winter. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Flags and records

Greetings, during the past months, there has been a lot of activity and active discussion surrounding articles within our scope. Of particular interest is one that took place in Flag of Puerto Rico, in which several project members exposed their points of view regarding the tones of our flag. Ultimately, research brought forth a severe loophole in the regulation employed by the Senate of Puerto Rico. Our flag doesn't have official tones! Attempting to prevent future conflicts, I presented a proposal in the project's talk page. The subsequent discussion served as an perfect example of consensus. Thanks to everyone for your participation. In other news, our friend Tony the Marine added another impressive achievement to his brilliant resume. On December 8, 2008, his DYK hook for Ivan Castro (soldier) broke the previous all-time record for more views, receiving 71,300 visits. Tony has also been actively cooperating with this Newsletter, the inclusion of a new "Did you Know?" section, was entirely his idea. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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On November 1, Jonathan González won the flyweight division's gold medal at the International Boxing Association's Youth World Championships. (Primera Hora) González joins John John Molina, Aníbal Santiago Acevedo, Carlos Febres and Daniel Alicea as gold medalists in this competition.


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That the Elfin-woods Warbler, an endemic bird of Puerto Rico first observed in 1968, is the last New World warbler species to be discovered?

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Boycott map[edit]

Actually, the colour greenland is represents the fact Denmark has threatened it's individual government will boycott Durban if needed. The teal are members of the EU that have not specifically said they intend to boycott, but an EU minister says they will if things don't change. I didn't think colouring them light blue was honest since their own governments haven't specifically said anything and have remained vague. Should I change Greenland's colour anyways though? I assumed if Denmark boycotted than Greenland wouldn't participate, though I am not versed in the exact amount of political freedom Greenland has on the world stage. Lemniwinks (talk) 07:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Puka-Pukan[edit]

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File source problem with File:Driftless Zone small.jpg[edit]

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plead pleaded pled - and a plea[edit]

Tomer, that's the least of the problems in that article! "Pled" is fine with me - as I said, alternates are acceptable but consistency would be nice. Meanwhile..... you're an admin? Maybe you can help out with the education of Theo789 who is being difficult. He's really not clear on what we mean by verifiable, or OR, or RS, or much of anything - and after I explained to him why a newspaper article about his Facebook group was to be used as a source rather than a link to the Facebook group itself, he went ahead and added the comments by members of that Facebook group as a source which is even less reliable. I need some help over there! Thanks - and nice to meet you. Tvoz/talk 08:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Markoff as a Jew[edit]

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TharsHammer Abuse[edit]

In case you want to comment on TharsHammar Abuse and POV Violations, there is a new discussion thread on his user discussion page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.204.115 (talk) 16:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't have time to research his editing history at the moment, so any input from me at this point would be underinformed. Tomertalk 16:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
You sure about that, he just threatened you on his talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.204.115 (talk) 16:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm quite sure. The user is obviously agressive, and possibly abusive, certainly quarrelsome and has been unpleasant, misleading, and disingenuous toward me, but I still don't have time to research hir editing history in order to present a cogent summary thereof. Tomertalk 16:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

eshtordishon[edit]

You asked me "Hi Rebele, here you added some verbiage about the French word "eshtordishon". What were you referring to, precisely?"
The word is found in Rashi's second comment on Gen I, 2. Rebele | Talk The only way to win the game is to not play the game. 08:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Rashi[edit]

The article on Rashi says:

As in his commentary on the Tanakh, Rashi frequently illustrates the meaning of the text using analogies to the professions, crafts, and sports of his day. He also translates difficult Hebrew or Aramaic words into the spoken French language of his day, giving latter-day scholars a window into the vocabulary and pronunciation of Old French.

As a person who lived in France about 1,000 years ago, Rashi is, by definition, an expert in French as it was used in his time and place. The problem that we have is that he did not write using Latin orthography. He transliterated the local dialect into Hebrew. It is analigous are written to the way that mideval German words are written in Yiddish.

If you can find a better retransliteration using Latin charactors, please correct me.

Anything unclear, please query me. Rebele | Talk The only way to win the game is to not play the game. 17:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

re: Nicole Kidman[edit]

I'm not questioning whether you can classify her as a Roman Catholic, what I'm actually questioning is that you can classify her as an actual Scientologist to now say she is a "former Scientologist". The reference, which is the New York Post and not uncontroversial, doesn't clearly describe and define her so much a full and practicing member of the the Church of Scientology and the Wikipedia article stops short of it, only says "she had been an occasional practitioner of Scientology." I would actually be hesitant to use that publication as a source that she was much of anything definitively, based on what it says and our burden to support statements under WP:BLP. Does dabbling in a religion or a pseudo-religion or a belief system mean one would automatically qualify as a full fledged member? Does describing someone as "an occasional practitioner" define their participation enough to call them one? Not by WP:BLP standards and not by the reference that is given. That's why I removed the category, it's drawing a conclusion about her status that isn't supported by the content of the article it was in. I'd also note there is an arbcom ban on making a following revert if someone removes or changes your edits regarding Scientology. The burden immediately becomes yours to support your change and not just return it verbatim. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

rabbis/rabbies[edit]

hi. I've just saw your correction about Rabbis - and not Rabbies. מחכים בהחלט. user: Korach

Re baptism[edit]

Hi Tomer, I haven't heard anything like that anecdotally or seen such in any research I've done. Still, that doesn't mean it isn't the case. Without published ideals/rules/standards, it's hard to get everyone to think in accord let alone behave in accord. Donama (talk) 08:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Stevertigo[edit]

I do not remember clealy whether you ever had any negative encounters with Stevertigo back in the day. Juuuust in case you did, you should know about this - otherwise, ignore it, and sorry to have troubled you, Slrubenstein | Talk 21:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Malaysia in maps[edit]

HI. Regarding the placement of Malaysia in the Ecozone maps it's probably best to direct the comment to File talk:BlankMap-World6.svg which is the basis for such maps. Cheers /Lokal_Profil 20:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Eau Claire - Graham Street looking north 2005.jpg[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Eau Claire WI-Tower.jpg[edit]

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Read the template[edit]

I would encourage you to read the documentation for Template:Why before you make further use of it. Were you aware that adding that template automatically places an article in Category:Articles with specifically-marked weasel-worded phrases?

As well, the structure of that paragraph implies that WMC's admin status was revoked as a result of his editing on global warming topics. Instead, the problem arose from his handling of a particularly pernicious and obnoxious editor at cold fusion. For WEIGHT reasons, I would tend to argue that that particular story is largely irrelevant to everyone except for wikidramatists. (Though if you wanted to use a particular wording in the article, couldn't you have gone to the article talk page (or just been WP:BOLD) and added it yourself rather than tagging?)

Finally, I would thank you not to make further assumptions about how I would handle, participate in, vote on, or otherwise treat arbitration cases — particularly if you haven't bothered to note that I was a participant in the case in question. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 05:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

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Nevzlin and extradition[edit]

Hello! I have just read your old comment about removing the statement: "Since Israel does not expel Jewish fugitives to other countries, he is unlikely to be ever prosecuted. " You claim that "The statement is factually incorrect. Most famously, Israel expelled Meyer Lansky in 1970". Well sure it did. I don't know details of that story. But I do know that there is some law that either prohibits extradition or makes it exraordinary difficult. Actually, the provision is specified here: http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Archive/Communiques/1995/EXTRADITION%20IN%20ISRAEL

(4) Nationals

Any person may be extradited from Israel except for a person who was an Israeli national at the time of the commission of the offense. However, to ensure that an Israeli national does not escape prosecution, Sections 7A and 10A of the Penal Law, 5737-1977 (as amended) extend the jurisdiction of the Israeli courts to hear cases in which an Israeli national is alleged to have committed a crime abroad, thus adhering to the rule "aut dedere aut punire".

Some Jewish fugitives (from the US and canada) claimed that they had been Israeli nationals from birth. I understand that this concept found some sympathy within Israeli justice system but was ultimately rejected as it caused too much tension with the US. Anyway, the law also requires that (1) there is an extradition treaty with the respective country and (2) the alleged crime is not of political nature. Although Nevzlin wasn't Israeli national at the time of alleged crimes, he will never be extradited because he does not fulfil conditions (1) and arguably (2). All we need is find reliable sources that say this, otherwise it will be original research. Of course he can still be prosecuted in Israel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BorisG (talkcontribs) 13:22, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Passover vs Passover (Christian holiday)[edit]

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Christian Yom Kippur discussion[edit]

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IPA[edit]

Per New Orleans, yes, it's /nju:/ in British English, and elsewhere, including parts of the US. We don't use any particular dialect in our transcriptions unless we mark them 'local', and New Orleans already has local transcriptions. — kwami (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

13 principles of logic[edit]

I have added the above to the Judaism article; Wikiwatcher keeps deleting it because it is just one man's opinion and esoteric. I am happy to discuss at length with you why I think this is important but for starts, I think the articl is sorely lacking in balance when it emphasizes doctrine and ritual over other elements of Judaism (e.g. Torah Study, that Jews have developed their own principles of logic and jurisprudence). Anyway, I hope you will comment. Happy Shavuot, Slrubenstein | Talk 10:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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Admins who know how WikiProject Judaism works[edit]

Hi Tshilo: In the present ANI discussions about the correct names for the three Jewish Temples at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#All talk pages, and more, were notified about the discussions and proposed moves an admin (Fram) involved in the ANI discussions but not familiar with the history of Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism has raised some questions about how the Judaism WikiProject functions, such as "Whether that is standard practive [sic] at the Project, or only your standard practice, I don't know, but it has to change in either case. Subjects related to Jews or Judaism will not be named or treated in accordance with the Torah, but in acordance [sic] with reliable independent sources (and for the naming in accordance with English language reliable independent sources)." I have suggested that experienced admins familiar with the WikiProject be called in to answer those allegations. As an admin and participant in the project over a number of years your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 09:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome![edit]

Hi there: Noticed that you made a couple of edits lately. Welcome back. Hope to see lots more of you! IZAK (talk) 14:58, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

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Unincorporated communities in Wisconsin[edit]

Hi-I like your categories involving unincorporated communities in Dunn and Eau Claire Counties having a specific county listed in the Wisconsin unincorporated communities category. The drawback is that is the last few months you had many Wisconsin unincorporated communities that were reclassified census-designated places so one does not know how to reclassified them. My thanks for doing this in Eau Claire and Dunn Counties=RFD (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - ongoing poll[edit]

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Regarding NPA[edit]

I am very aware of the civility standards. You will please note that I discussed them with someone who was advising me after the person involved made several attempts to deliberately get under my skin.

I didn't need you spamming my page with a warning on behalf of your belligerent friend. Please just leave me be rather than harassing me. SkepticAnonymous (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - ongoing poll[edit]

This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move Burma to Myanmar. I know this happened just recently but no administrator would close these frequent rm's down, so here we go again. This note is going out to wikipedia members who have participated in Burma/Myanmar name changing polls in the past. It does not include banned members nor those with only ip addresses. Thank you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Persecution by Christians listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Katanga Crisis edit[edit]

aai sii yuu v ritan sam staf in qa Kataahgga Praavins aartikal. waatx ta sii hweqar qa ligk iz riimuuvvd ta sii hweqar qa dikteeitarxip s faandligh qii aartikal in qeeir feivar. Qis iz an impoorrtant histoorrikal piiryad in qa histrii av qa steeit, eend it siimz bizaarr far it ta bii aqarwaaiz kampliittlii unmenntxand... :-| --yarsellf~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.249.21 (talk) 05:53, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Yishivish - grammar, can you add learning/studying?[edit]

Hi Tomer,

Can you add a point to the Yeshivish article about the use of the word learning as opposed to studying. The former is used in Yeshivish but translated for non-Yeshivish oilam.

I am not familiar with wiki edited etc. and I am not such a scholar to know how to do it right.

Shkoiach! Binyomin kiryatseferatgmailetc 93.173.45.180 (talk) 19:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Category:Unincorporated communities in Dunn County, Wisconsin[edit]

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Alhambra Decree[edit]

Hi,

It looks to me that you were the original source (in 2005) of the translated text originally found at Alhambra Decree which is now at Wikisource. There it's marked as not having a known source. Can you confirm whether you wrote that text yourself? If so, it could be marked as an original "Wikisource" translation and not be at risk of being deleted in the future. Thanks. --Eliyak T·C 03:28, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Manitowoc, Wisconsin[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Manitowoc, Wisconsin has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. I also included Template:Menomonie, Wisconsin, Template:Merrill, Wisconsin, Template:Racine, Wisconsin,Template:Sheboygan, Wisconsin, Template:Stevens Point, Wisconsin, Template:Wausau, Wisconsin, and Template:Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin. Kennethaw88 (talk) 05:42, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Island of French Polynesia[edit]

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Edit-a-thon in Madison[edit]

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I appreciate the invitation. Fridays are not good for me.  ;-) Let me know if any Sundays show up.  :-) Tomertalk 05:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Ola Bini[edit]

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Moving Burma to Myanmar - new 2015 poll[edit]

You participated in a Burma RM in the past so I'm informing you of another RM. I hope I didn't miss anyone. New move attempt of Burma>Myanmar Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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Edit-a-thon in Madison[edit]

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I've remained pretty active, but not as an admin, and almost always anonymously. Tomertalk 01:54, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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