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Cam (singer)[edit]

You beat me to it. Damn you!! Just kidding. I added some additional information and created a redirect. Nice job with the chart history!!! --Plovanski (talk) 20:01, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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List of best-selling girl groups[edit]

Hi TenPoundHammer – yes, I know, your heart probably sank when you saw the title of this post, it's a nightmare you've spent the last three years trying to forget. I noticed that you AfD'd this article back in 2012 and I read through that discussion – I entirely agree with the arguments you and Status put forward back then, and I don't think the article is in any better shape now. I've discussed my two major areas of concern on the talk page: specifically, that the overall list of best-selling girl groups worldwide is missing some fairly obvious omissions, simply because we can't source figures for them; that there is no point trying to have separate tables for physical and digital sales in this day and age; and that the list of best-selling singles in the US is fundamentally flawed as it only consists of singles by the Spice Girls and million-sellers from 2005 onwards. GabeMc's argument that it could be improved by using the RIAA Gold & Platinum database is no good as it won't include any certifications from before 2005, so you have to look elsewhere for sources: I stated mine in the talk page discussion, but I can't guarantee I haven't missed any.

I suspect if it goes to AfD again, it will come up against exactly the same counter-arguments – the best compromise suggestion I can come up with for the US singles section is to simply list the singles that have been certified platinum or double platinum using the RIAA database and the BHSA book, without trying to rank them. Although frankly, I agree that this whole article is next to useless. I'm also having to contend with a few Fifth Harmony obsessives who insist that "Worth It" has sold 2 million in the US, without providing any evidence (the cited article next to the song's entry clearly states 1.2 million, backed up by the fact it's only been certified single platinum by the RIAA). Any comments, suggestions, observations, or do I simply throw my hands up in the air at the whole thing? Thanks for your time. Richard3120 (talk) 16:21, 1 August 2015 (UTC)