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Shenzhen Metro[edit]

I see you're communist, so would you please refrain from editing any China-related article and covering facts, that your propaganda is deliberatly trying to hide to look more superior? You can edit Baidu or something, where lying about everything is acceptable, but here, covering extreme levels of hipocrisy and patheticalness is not tolerated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4C4E:1600:5F00:782E:5BCF:59AC:F6FE (talk) 02:03, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Beijing Subway article rating[edit]

Hey Terramorphous, really excellent contributions to the Beijing Subway and its constellation of articles. The main article still has B ratings from WikiProject Trains and WikiProject China that were made in 2006 . Given all of the improvements to the article since then, not to mention the growth in the prominence of the subject, the article deserves a better rating. Do you know how to get the rating reassessed? ContinentalAve (talk) 16:49, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

你好 感谢你的支持[edit]

对于棒子的行为是在无语了,相信阁下看我的说话的内容也猜到我不会英语了,我希望将首都电铁圈在List of metro systems条目内的长度统计分开,考虑到韩国统计人流量只算1-9号线应该这么做,但是不知道在首尔的地铁里面系统图是怎么的,这个可以作为一个参考依据,另外这次上海地铁官方将磁浮的长度和车长都算入了,这也是个依据,不过考虑到魔都的速度就算这次失败了来年也会超过的,BTW阁下不玩中文维基啊~~--Qa003qa003 (talk) 11:36, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

这次官网将磁浮算了里程发布了新闻,其次上海地铁发行地铁磁浮一卡通。另外首尔能将多个公司运行的线路合并计算为何上海的磁浮不能?磁浮和上海地铁的关系类似于两家运营公司,更何况两家公司是一个集团的,而且要注意不将上海磁浮算入上海地铁系统属于原创研究,如今地铁官网宣布里程都将其算入。--Qa003qa003 (talk) 12:29, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
没办法了 等年底吧。--Qa003qa003 (talk) 03:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Nanjing Metro[edit]

Question: Can you explain what is going on with the Nanjing Metro? The words "suburban rail" are generally synonymous with "commuter rail", but I am now completely confused by what is going on with Nanjing's S1 Line. Specifically, if it's "metro", and not "commuter rail" then why is its line number "branded" differently? IOW, if it's "metro" and not "commuter rail", then why is it "Line S1" instead of the originally planned for "Line 6"? Also, what are the particulars of the S1 Line - is it fully grade-separated with no at-grade crossings? What are the headways on the line? Does it share track with other rail? Etc. Thanks in advance. --IJBall (talk) 14:18, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Markham Pan Am Centre[edit]

Hi, I am working on articles related to the Pan Am Games and was looking for a photo of the Markham Pan Am Center. Would it be possible for you to take a picture of the facility? If so can you please do so? Thanks! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Little Tokyo Station Editing[edit]

"Pic ain't all that great. It seems to show that Little Tokyo is a wasteland."

I actually believe you have a point there. My images for the station were quite miserable, and I guess you're right. But honestly, as my experience with taking pictures on that station that's the only good direction to take the pictures for the platform view...other station placards either is blocked with chairs, trash cans, or poles, and the other placards has scratch graffitis all over them. I don't know how to take the same style of photo for the station otherwise...can you take a better picture? Just asking. HanSangYoon (talk) 02:38, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Now look, my Cantonese huoban (伙伴, just a formality). You said that my picture for Little Tokyo Station looked like trash, and I agreed. But you stepped too far when you got the non-trashy looking ones and reverted them, too. That's an issue. See, these stub articles lack images and the visual description of what the station looks like. But my uploading for platform view has more reasons beyond that, so I'd advise you not to take them down if possible.
Also, to your message of limiting the images on platform as negative...I disagree. It shows the main graphic design of what these stations go by, you know. I also had tremendous amounts of disputes with other users about this. I really urge you to leave them alone. It's painful when they take it down, since that pretty much voids my hard metro trip I've committed for Wikipedia. HanSangYoon (talk) 11:13, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
First of all, big contribution, little contribution...for a page with lack of pictures, it doesn't really matter. What's more, little contribution or no contribution at all? Which ones better? Little is better than none. If there is deep negative resentment on the picture, wait. I will try to gather more pictures (I'm in LA, and I enjoy taking pictures of things like metro) and show it to you so you could decide which picture is better (I used to have someone do that for me but I kicked him out). On behalf, don't revert them! HanSangYoon (talk) 00:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Busan as unwary Line 1-Infobox[edit]

I was quite confused when the route diagram was gone- I presume you're gonna improve it and put it back? Cause we need a route diagram for the page. HanSangYoon (talk) 08:17, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Terramorphous:, I never said that the readers were idiots (or tried to express that they were). There are few users who cannot realize of what the numbers might be, so I added in the word as a service that you could add by 6. I don't really want to create a fuss but I get your ideas that there will not be younger people (like little kids) seeing Wikipedia? HanSangYoon (talk) 19:35, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
@HanSangYoon: I didn't mean to sound heated. Yes as you now know simple things like math and addition don't need to be spelled out to the reader. For example you don't need to say there are 20 stations with 10 under construction so that makes 30. You can just say 20 stations with an addition 10 under construction.Terramorphous (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Alright, whatever. I don't like it, but it's definitely fine. HanSangYoon (talk) 19:49, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

"It's a war zone there"[edit]

Trust me, I'm well aware—although my station articles are British, I keep a couple of major stations worldwide watchlisted to keep an eye on how countries are doing things, and noticed this dispute when it popped up in my watchlist again every time I looked. I'm reluctant to wade in—I know I'd be irritated if US users turned up on WP:UKRAIL issuing pronouncements on how the articles should be formatted.

Llanbister Road Station

I don't think he's doing this out of malice—I think he just has a very, very misguided view of how Wikipedia works, and feels that he has some kind of entitlement. I can just about agree with one aspect of his argument—LA Metro stations (other than Union Station) are notoriously boring architecturally, so it's a lot harder to get interesting photos of the stations than it is with somewhere like Chicago or Moscow. As a tip, look at how we handle the supremely boring architecture of the Heart of Wales Line, where almost all the station buildings were demolished to save money and thus the stations all look like this; even with stations consisting of just a concrete strip a photo of the platform (rather than the sign) has more value, as it shows the reader at a glance that the station facilities are minimal. – iridescent 19:17, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes but all we are asking for is a platform shot just like your Llanbister Road Station we don't care who takes it, as long as it is the best one available. Imagine if it was just a shot of Llanbister Road's station nameplate. That is what HSY is advocating.Terramorphous (talk) 19:45, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Wait. So you're trying to tell me taking the signage of a station as a main image is wrong? If that's the case, I'm willing to commit a huge project of changing all of the entire subway system image of South Korea. I like their format, but because I am dramatically disheartened by users who complain of it, I am unwilling to let either the Los Angeles Metro pages or the combination of Seoul, Busan, Daegu, Gwangju, Incheon, and Daejeon of Korea and Tokyo of Japan's entire subway system to stay the way it is. You guys believe placards aren't part of diversity, then the Asian subway pages deserve to be changed. HanSangYoon (talk) 19:56, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Terramorphous, I entirely agree with you—my point is just that I'm reluctant to pile in, as UKRAIL people turning up telling USRAIL editors "this is how it should be done" is just as annoying as HSY turning up insisting that US articles follow the same formatting as Korea.

HanSangYoon, this is not to sound patronising but Los Angeles is NOT IN KOREA. Wikipedia is not Encyclopaedia Britannica, and doesn't have a single style standard across all articles (other than the very limited guidelines at WP:Manual of Style); the formatting which WP:KO chooses to use on their articles has no bearing on how WP:WLA chooses to format theirs. As a very rough guide to "how things ought to be done", have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains#Featured articles and Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains#Good articlesand in particularly the station articles there—FA and GA aren't indicators of perfection, but they do show that the article has been scrutinised by a number of people and have reached a stable version by consensus. FWIW, on a quick dip-sample of five randomly-chosen articles in Category:Seoul subway stations (Gasan Digital Complex Station, Dongguk University Station, Bucheon Station, Obin Station and Incheon International Airport Station) not a single one has a photo of the platform signage. – iridescent 15:30, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

iridescent, I understand the your reservation, as always the choice is ultimately yours.Terramorphous (talk) 16:44, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
@Iridescent:, Los Angeles is not in Korea, that's definitely correct. But then, Los Angeles is not in United Kingdom, either. I feel as if we are saying that Los Angeles Metro should just go with the British format of doing page formats; your argument doesn't add up, either. HanSangYoon (talk) 17:57, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
  • (talk page stalker) iridescent isn't saying that at all, they are explicitly saying the opposite: that the UK do things differently, but LA should do things their own way. It doesn't matter what another series of articles do, there is no one standardised way of doing things. English Wikipedia doesn't even use one standardised for of English (see WP:ENGVAR), let alone have a set way that stations should display photos in infoboxes. ColonialGrid (talk) 18:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey Terramorphous, sorry for being so active, but some news...[edit]

ColonialGrid decided to report me here about defending the Busan Metro Line 1's template route map (check the history)...might wanna check. I am beyond ridiculed. (Also, check ColonialGrid's and SarekOfVulcan's talk page) HanSangYoon (talk) 07:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Talkback: to Talk:Busan Metro Line 1[edit]

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Shenzhen Metro evolution[edit]

I noticed there was a minor mistake in your work File:Shenzhen metro Evo.gif. The Chiwan – Window of the World section of the Line 2 (the orange line) opened on 28 December 2010. The Window of the World – Xinxiu section opened on 28 June 2011. You have reversed the order in your work. --180.160.25.176 (talk) 08:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

You are right I will fix that.Terramorphous (talk) 13:27, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

We're waiting for your thought on:[edit]

  • Talk page: Busan Metro Line 1
  • Image referendum 11, 12, 13 is open

HanSangYoon (talk) 17:25, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Light rail in Canada edit question[edit]

Terramorphous, I'm confused where you got the new Calgary C-Train ridership figures from in your recent edit at Light rail in Canada, as the Q4 2014 APTA report doesn't include figures for Calgary. So where are the updated figures you got from?! Thanks in advance! --IJBall (talk) 19:59, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that it's from the Q3 report. Terramorphous (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


Talkback[edit]

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List of United States light rail systems by ridership[edit]

Hi, Terramorphous! When updating List of United States light rail systems by ridership, I'm pretty sure you forgot to update the 'Ridership per mile' figures as well. Just so you know --IJBall (contribstalk) 21:49, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I was in the process of updating it when you posted this but thanks for the heads up.Terramorphous (talk) 21:55, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Cool! I only brought it up because whenever anyone else has ever tried to update these articles, they haven't done the Ridership per mile figures, even after I asked them too! Face-wink.svg --IJBall (contribstalk) 22:11, 8 May 2016 (UTC)


S-train[edit]

Thanks for your comments on this; it might be worth waiting to see if any other contributors to the page have an opinion, though, as returning it to a pre-OR state might involve going back quite a way. Regards, Moonraker12 (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you[edit]

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For your good bicycle-sharing system-related edits. Thank you! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:51, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

成都地铁建设GIF图更新请求[edit]

If you could not understand Chinese clearly, pls reply and tell me then I will use English write this Talk again.

阁下您好,刚刚在翻阅中文维基百科条目"成都地铁"时,发现该条目内使用了您的[[File:Chengdu Metro Evolution.gif]],文件最后修改时间为2016年,故在条目内被加入了[needs update]标识,特来邀请您对该文件做出更新,此致Hamishcn (talk) 00:50, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

你好,我平時年尾會更新。但係,我可以今個星期加2017年最近新開同埋年尾會開地鐵段 (4號線東西延線,7號線和10號線第一期)。Terramorphous (talk) 03:13, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

-好,咁麻煩你咗,不過我仲係advice你得閒葛話儘量每多一條更新一次,呢樣更方便讀者瞭解。Hamishcn (talk) 03:25, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Chengdu Metro Evolution[edit]

Thanks for your efforts in updating it. But I noticed that the colors of line 7 and line 10 are wrong. Please switch their colors.YanTTO (talk) 02:34, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merging of Ring Roads of Wuhan[edit]

Hello, I'm just here to say that I've proposed that the articles concerning ring roads of Wuhan be merged, as there is really no need for all of them to be in separate articles. Dark-World25 (talk) 11:05, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Beijing Subway station number[edit]

I see you partly reverted my edit on List of metro systems about Beijing Subway, claiming that the "311" figure already omits Xijiao LRT stations. However, I had thoroughly verified - on Wiki pages about each line, on Schwandl's "UrbanRail" Beijing page and on the official map (from www.bjsubway.com) - and I'm positive you're wrong:

  • starting from the figure on the source you yourself provided (here), it says 370 stations (counted multiple time) for the whole network, 6 of which for Xijiao Line / 56 interchanges, one of which between Xijiao Line and Line 10 exluding Xijiao Line, it makes 364 stations / 55 interchanges;
  • manually counting on the official map (here, not updated yet), it shows 51 transfer stations served by two lines (counted twice in the "370" total) and 3 transfer stations served by three lines (counted trice in the "370" total) adding the newly opened interchange between Fangshan Line and Yanfang Line at Yancun East (阎村东), it makes precisely 55 interchanges;
  • subtracting 52 (counted twice) + 6 (3, but counted trice) = 58 units from the previously calculated total of 364 it makes 306 unique stations.

Conversely, if also the interchange between Xijiao Line and Line 10 at Bagou (巴沟) is taken into account, subtracting 53 (counted twice) + 6 (3, but counted trice) = 59 units from the overall total of 370 it'll make 311 unique stations. Therefore the unique station current count is 311 including Xijiao LRT and it's 306 omitting Xijiao LRT 93.57.255.93 (talk) 10:55, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

I too have manually printed out and tallied the stations on this map (which is updated) [1]. Though back checking on my work I seem to have missed Dajing Station so my count is actually 312. Did you count the new infill stations that have opened? There is only 2 of them (Nongdananlu Station and Pingleyuan Station) so that doesn't explain everything but Schwandl's "UrbanRail" says they are still closed. Did you count the S1 Mentougou Line? UrbanRail is incorrect as the line does not reach Pingguoyuan Station yet. Also I believe Pingguoyuan Station is closed for renovations until 2020 or something. I still counted it, as it was operating. Also Xingong Station may be treated differently as it is a technically not an interchange station.Terramorphous (talk) 17:12, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I redid the count (this time using only the Wikipedia map you suggested) and the result is again what I wrote above: 306 unique stations if Xijiao Line is omitted and 311 if it's included; since the LRT/tram line is actually drawn in the map, you might have involuntarily counted also its stations in your first calculation. As for your other remarks, I counted:
  • the two newly opened infill stations (Schwandl's "UrbanRail" map shows them as closed, but in the text is written they're open);
  • the S1 Mentougou Line, with 7 station and no interchange, taking into account the "UrbanRail"'s mistake;
  • Pingguoyuan station, not knowing it could be currently closed (anyway, temporary closures don't matter, see NYCS in the table);
  • Xingong station as a regular one (as it's officially treated by the operating company) and not as an interchange.
93.57.255.93 (talk) 19:56, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
OK, I looked back at my work and the Xijiao Line was not counted so I reprinted and recounted the stations, getting 306. What a strange coincidence that I double counted exactly the amount of stations there are on the Xijiao Line. Good work and catching that.Terramorphous (talk) 03:10, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Sometimes coincidences are quite odd :). Now, I'm pondering whether to restore the paragraph that explicitly excludes restricted stations from the count (it was in the note before your initial edit): I know it's a rather irrelevant detail (for such a general article) and somewhat redundant (they're implicitly excluded when the note says operational stations), but I feel that it could be worthy of mention in a note, being an interesting peculiarity of this system (that not many people know) and being able to avert any, albeit remote, possibility of doubt (if I correctly understood, at least one of them - Fushouling Station (福寿岭站) - is still in use, as it stated here). What do you think? 93.57.255.93 (talk) 22:01, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Hongqiao Railway Station (metro)[edit]

I don't want to break the formatting changes you made in the infobox for this article, so please revert back the changes you made and apply them, if you would like, to Hongqiao Airport Terminal 2 Station. Your source, [2], clearly indicates that this is for Hongqiao Airport Terminal 2 Station, not Hongqiao Railway Station (metro). Another hint that this was probably the wrong station was that your source is missing Line 17. The previous station layout was correct. The two stations are not the same. Thanks. Heights(Want to talk?) 22:13, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh, did not see that. Thanks for noticing it. Fixed. Terramorphous (talk) 22:51, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

GZM ridership information[edit]

Hi, you may want to add ridership information to the lines' Wikidata items as well, using property patronage (P3872). (This probably helps because the old values don't get deleted every year.) Jc86035 (talk) 00:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

有關地鐵發展歷史gif檔案[edit]

謝謝閣下抽空制作這一系列的檔案。我已經為閣下所有同類的檔案加入commons:Category:Metro evolution的分類,如果閣下還有新的檔案上傳,可以順道加入這個分類。另外,我也希望可以制作出類似的檔案,請問是用甚麼軟件制作的呢?--owennsonMeeting RoomCertificates) 10:10, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

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