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Philippine provinces[edit]

Hi! Wow, it seems you have finished off the work of converting all the rest of the provinces to the new template (well, at least those for which you have the provincial seals). Welcome to Wikipedia! :) —seav 23:50, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Seav! I've seen your name all over the Philippine topics. I have the provincial seals for all the provinces except Compostela Valley, Sarangani, and Zamboanga Sabugay, I'll be putting them up as well as the infobox templates as I have time. Glad to be contributing. :) TheCoffee 01:55, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Star Wars[edit]

Any insight as to why some people say Star Wars is more of a "western" than science fiction?


You can take any kind of story and put it on any kind of setting. As you are probably aware Kurosawa put a western story in Japan with excellent results.

In the current definition on the next page we say.

  1. The clothes on your back.
  2. Your gun, and
  3. Your horse.

Star Wars people could be said to have all of these. They had clothes, they had guns, and they had horsepower. Western films are period art. What I think is also common to most westerns is the spectacular landscape, which was probably correct in parts of Star Wars also.

Back to the Future, depicted the nineteenth, early twentieth century “Old West,” period authentically, Star Wars did not. If I remember Battle Beyond the Stars (1980) was a Sci-Fi remake of a western.

We cannot let any story that has the basic ingredients of a western be a Western. The first real movie was a western; practically every movie takes from that in some way. Only westerns have the “Old West,” period and locations. Almost any story with these will “look,” like a western. That is not to say you cannot have a western in the future. Futureworld pulls it off, being a western in the future. The Western part of the story holds true to the locations and western period and of course it had a traditional gunslinger.

Popular westerns are heavily grounded in 19th century reality. Westerns with the supernatural or that suspend belief with magic, are very unpopular. The public does not appear to accept fantasy westerns as westerns unless they are cartoons. Look at it like this. You see the thing that many people forget is that these are picture stories. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

When you are channel surfing with the sound off, can you tell within a few frames, the difference between a western, and a Sci-Fi flick?

If you can, then you probably know what a western movie looks like. Star Wars does not "Look," like a western. GT

Henry Jenkins[edit]

Thanks for the copy edit. Stirling Newberry 14:23, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines[edit]

Hello, you might be interested in helping flesh-out the Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines page, so that we can centralize our efforts in improving Philippine-related articles. :) —seav 00:06, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Hi, is there a specific reason behind bypassing MIT redirects? Because [[MIT]] is easier to read in the wikicode than [[Massachusetts Institute of Technology|MIT]], and so I would argue we should keep the former unless there's a good reason otherwise. — Matt Crypto 11:03, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I just figured it's more efficient to bypass the redirect, and guard against the possibility that the MIT page is turned into a disambiguation page. I never thought of it as cluttering the Wikicode... Anyway, I'll stop. It's not necessary anyway. TheCoffee


Hi, regarding Image:Quake.jpg, is there a reason that you uploaded a smaller version of the image? It has notably less detail than the previous one. Thanks. --ChrisRuvolo 02:51, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC) was the weirdest thing. I was looking at the images of the 1906 quake and when I saw quake.jpg, it appeared to be vandalized because I saw a screenshot from the Quake video game. I just found a new one and uploaded it... but now that I look at the image history, it seems that it was never vandalized. Must have been a problem with my cache, or Wikipedia's cache... in any case, I reverted it. Sorry! --TheCoffee 04:39, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Ah.. There *was* a Quake screenshot at Quake.jpg, but I believe it was deleted at some point, and then the current image uploaded. I saw a cached copy of the original screenshot this week also. Something in the wikipedia cache must be out of date. Thanks for the info. --ChrisRuvolo 07:06, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Movie Infobox[edit]

You haven't replied yet: Template talk:Infobox Movie#Awards and Series fields Cburnett 06:53, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Replied. TheCoffee 07:45, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates[edit]

FYI: I moved the nomination to the top, since Please add all nominations and self-nominations to the top of this list.. Nice picture. -- Chris 73 Talk 09:30, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks :) TheCoffee 09:34, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mi Último Adiós[edit]

Keep up the good work! Your image on Corazon Aquino is highly appreciated. I just would like your participation on the Vfd of Mi Ultimo Adios, please vote to keep or move to wikisource. There should be a brief description about it and it 's significance.--Jondel 05:11, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Hi there. You licensed the above image as 'GDFL.' While this template redirects to the one for the GFDL, we're not compltely sure of the legal implications of this, so I'd really appreciate it if you could change the template from {{GDFL}} to {{GFDL}}. Thanks a lot! -Frazzydee| 00:10, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. Somehow I didn't notice this message when you first posted it... in any case, it seems you fixed that up for me. Thanks. :) TheCoffee

College of Commerce[edit]

The deleted content was not copyrighted and is in fact explicitly public domain.

Featured pic[edit]

Walt Whitman edit 2.jpg
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Walt Whitman edit 2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.


Is superb! Keep up the good work!--Jondel 02:40, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks :) TheCoffee 05:02, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

pope infobox[edit]

I'm disappointed that Gerald's infobox has been replaced by what I consider to be an ugly, inferior design. I've asked people to vote on it. Please drop by at Template talk:Infobox pope. FearÉIREANN 22:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

FYI - I really liked the new Pope Infobox so I have proposed that it be used for all religious leades on Infobox policy. There have been no objections so far (since Friday). If that continues I plan on helping to update the articles for the new Infobox. If you have comments, concerns please discuss there Trödel|talk 17:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Locator Map[edit]

It's a very good effort. :) The fonts I've used are ITC Officina Sans and Adobe Sans MM. I like Officina Sans in particular but it's not free. I forgot how I got it in the first place. :) Anyway, I think we should use a common font instead so that anyone can easily create graphics. --seav 05:15, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sex and intelligence[edit]

Hi -- I re-inserted the POV notice to the above-named article. Its purpose was well-discussed on the talk page but you may have missed it. I reiterated the problem with the article in a separate section on it, now; it is fairly specific. --Fastfission 02:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Alrighty then... TheCoffee 06:13, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Hey, thanks so much. I am not actually new, coz I used to do some work without an account, but eventually I registered, so I can focus on the crisis thing, my first article. I hope you don't mind checking Philippine electoral crisis, 2005. I tried to be as NPOV as possible, pero, I still think that it still not enough. Feel free to fix it. Ok, I'll go na, antok kasi. --Noypi380 17:30, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Stub articles for Philippine cities/municipalities[edit]

Hi - I see you've just done a huge number of stub articles on Philippine places. If you're planning to do any more, could you please mark them with {{Philippines-geo-stub}} - it'll save work for someone further down the track re-categorising them! Thanks! Grutness...wha? 03:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sure thing. A question though... Eventually I want all those articles to look like this: Amlan, Negros Oriental, complete with list of barangays (local city/town divisions) and a locator map. Would you still consider that article a stub? TheCoffee 04:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
That's less stubby, but it still looks like quite qa bit like a stub. It needs a bit more text than the vital statistics and a list of barayas: perhaps a couple of sentences about the history of the place, what the name means, main industry, whether the population's all near the coast, any important features... that sort of thing. It doesn't need to be very long - have a look at the description of Lakewood, Zamboanga del Sur for an example of something that is beyond the stub stage, although it would be good if that had a map and list like your articles. San Isidro, Davao Oriental is better still, but you wouldn't need as much description as that unless you really felt keen on writing! Grutness...wha? 09:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Alright, I'll put {{Philippines-geo-stub}} on all those new generated articles (except the ones with other significant information}}. Thanks! TheCoffee 09:20, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks to you, for making the articles in the first place! :) Grutness...wha? 11:05, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes, Coffee, thanks for adding the articles and the stubs :) --MarSch 17:36, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! :) TheCoffee 18:05, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wow… I must say… That's the most appearances of new articles I have ever seen in the Recent changes. It's just a flood… and they're all by you! Nice work, I must say. JarlaxleArtemis 21:38, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah... well, I hope I'm not making too much of a mess on Recent Changes. :p The articles are for Philippine cities and municipalities. They're all pre-generated from some census data that I have, so I just need to copy and paste to fill in the blanks for the 1500+ articles. And I'm not quite a bot, so until my project is done, I'll be around to clutter up Recent Changes. Hmm... perhaps I should add a note on my user page... TheCoffee 21:45, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You submitted the 600,000 article[edit]

Well, as near as I can tell. I was watching [1] as the counter turned to 600,000, and reckon that Poona Bayabao, Lanao del Sur was the 600,000th. Certainly one of your articles was, because you submitted lots and lots of articles at much the same time. So well done, and thank you. I've posted an announcement. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Woo hoo! I was aiming for the 600,000th article. :) TheCoffee 05:04, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Agusan del Norte maps[edit]

Hmmm... I've been browsing around a bit and noticed that you spelled Remedios wrongly in its Media:Ph_locator_agusan_del_norte_remidios_t._romualdez.png locator map. Also, Gingoog Bay is misspelled in all the locator maps. :)

Grabe... Ang sipag mo... I barely have time to do my hobbies much less contribute to Wikipedia. Anyway, keep up the good work. Congrats on making the 600,000 article. (Hehe, I think your next target is to become the most active Filipino contributor.) :) --seav 14:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hehe, it's just that I have a lot of free time now that I've gone from student to "unemployed". :p I don't want to keep this up forever. It's not healthy. :/ Thanks for pointing out that misspelling, I'll get around to fixing that. :) TheCoffee 01:39, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Grabe talaga! TheCoffee you're the man. Actually, I'm here to ask if you could post the maps you made on the commons so that we can readily use them on the Tagalog Wikipedia and other projects. -- Blue Mask|Talk 18:12, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I have to admit, I'm not very familiar with the Commons system, but I'm absolutely willing to have them uploaded there. Right now we have 376 city/municipality locator maps, including the ones made by Seav. Then theres the 79 province locator maps, 16 region locator maps, and the various Philippine maps... seems like a lot of work... :p --TheCoffee 05:41, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)


I just read your comment on the vfd to history of United States Imperialism; would you mind to have a look at this? WP:CSB Lectonar 6 July 2005 13:12 (UTC)

Sure, I've read it before... TheCoffee 6 July 2005 14:57 (UTC)

Question about editing Wikipedia[edit]

Hello TheCoffee - I think you deleted something I added to a page about me today - I guess because I'm not authorized to edit it (yet?). I was wondering how I can get something added to this page? Email me at Thank you very much! -Jeffrey Ventrella


Hey thanks again. If you need some help in some article, don't hesistate to ask. --Noypi380 05:04, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

No problem. :) It's hard to stay neutral when it comes to that topic...everyone's getting emotional, nobody's thinking with their head anymore. You're doing a good job, keep it up. :) TheCoffee 05:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


The mop is mine!

Thanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again! -- Essjay · Talk 15:23, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

That's a lot of thanks you're giving out. :) That was actually my first time to go over there and actually vote at RfA, but you seemed especially deserving. Congratulations! TheCoffee 15:28, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Stop putting the delete tag on Lisa Shock[edit]

If you want something about which to be upset check the Sashanan entry which is at best harrassment and at worst Libel and Slander. Lisa Shock is a noted figure in the videogame industry.

The Sashanan article is a completely different issue that I have no involvement in, but since you brought it up, I looked over it and voted for its deletion. I put the delete tag on the Lisa Shock article because it doesn't assert importance, which makes it a candidate for speedy deletion. The only hint of notability on that page is that she works for Rolling Stone Magazine and she's a moderator on an internet forum. That doesn't seem notable at all to me. In any case, you should not remove the speedy deletion tag, as it says you shouldn't remove it from an article you created yourself. TheCoffee 08:23, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

I didn't remove the speedy delete tag. And thanks for judging my entry as unimportant. I found quite a few of your articles un-notable yet I was somehow able to resist marking them for speedy deletion. I created that entry because as someone involved in the online videogame community, I have seen quite a bit of "Who is Lisa Shock"-type questions and wanted to add the information to the wikipedia so that people would have a reference. Frankly, it is arrogant of you to assume that I removed the tag myself. Furthermore, it incenses me that you have arrogated to yourself (someone from whose contributions doesn't seem at all in touch with the videogame industry or community) the jury for an article I spent some time writing. Shame. 18:04, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

  • Apologies - I was unaware of the lofty standards for inclusion in the wikipedia. I have withdrawn my oposition to removal.
That's alright, we all learn by experience. :) And I'm sorry I thought it was you that removed the delete tag, I just saw that it was an anonymous IP and I made the wrong assumption. Right now it's at Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Lisa_Shock for people to vote on keeping it or not. If it's deleted, don't that that discourage you. Happy editting... TheCoffee 04:56, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Getting rid of listcruft[edit]

Hey. I just saw the comment from you in the "List of Novels" VFD about all those ridiculous "List of song" quasi-articles. I've been getting more and more annoyed with such listcruft, since as I see it those lists aren't even articles, let alone encyclopedic ones belonging on Wikipedia, and it seems like every one of them (I'd guess 9 out of every 10 articles on Wikipedia with the word "list" in their titles, at least) is a blatant violation of WP:NOT An Indiscriminate Collection of Information. So, over at Wikipedia talk:Lists I've started discussion about a brainstorm I had during an earlier VFD for some listcruft, where I'm thinking it might be good to propose a policy that articles containing only a list, with no other content, must be deleted. Seems to me anything that's an appropriate list to be on Wikipedia is going to have associated information that can form a couple of paragraphs to go with it in the article; everything else is "List of songs with lists in the lyrics." Anyway, from that comment of yours, I thought you might want to take a look at that discussion. The Literate Engineer 08:40, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't go that far. I think there are many lists that are useful on Wikipedia and they help keep the articles closely connected. For example, List of cities in California helped me find Sebastopol, California. And to be honest I'm not that fond of the category system, though I cooperate with the system anyway. But I agree that stuff like List of songs about body parts goes over the line and makes Wikipedia look like a joke, and I'd be glad to help out in setting guidelines to prevent things from getting out of hand. :) TheCoffee 15:44, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Original Pilipino Music and Music of the Philippines[edit]

Hi, I was browsing around the site today and noticed that Original Pilipino Music needed to be cleaned up, so I cleaned it up and made Philippine music a disambig for that article and Music of the Philippines. I was wondering, though, if what I added to that article is correct, and if OPM is different enough from what's covered in Music of the Philippines to need its own article. Google says that OPM is notable on its own, but if those two articles are about the same thing, they should be merged somehow. So if you would, please take a look at it and give your input. Thanks! --Idont Havaname 03:59, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'm not an expert on music, but I think those belong in seperate articles. Your cleanup of Original Pilipino Music is right, it's a term for any contemporary music my anyone with Philippine decent. With "Music of the Philippines", I'd get the impression that that article would be for folk music throughout the history of the Philippines. Actually, if anything, I think OPM is a subset of Music of the Philippines. TheCoffee 04:54, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

The return of toccolours[edit]

See Template:Infobox Pope. This systematic attempt to get rid of beauty on the wiki offends me and I hope that simple, elegant designs such as yours can survive. 10:40, 28 July 2005 (UTC)


Salamat sa pagboboto sa akin.--Jondel 05:25, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Good luck with adminship. ;) Coffee 04:24, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Will it play in Peoria?[edit]

Thank you for the help! (Saw the redirect assistance to a new page I created.) -- Barrettmagic 09:40, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

No problem. :) Coffee 04:24, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Barbara Nessim[edit]

I notice you speedied the above article. A quick google search would have established her notability, which could then have been added to the article just as quickly as the speedy template. Steve block talk 21:29, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Ah, alright. Well, thanks for expanding it. As it stood, the article looked like it very well could have been vanity. Anyway, I'll be more careful next time... Coffee 04:24, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Wigwag photos[edit]

Yes, please do delete them. Although I had permission from the webmaster whose site these were posted at, they didn't belong to him and weren't compatible with the GFDL license. Thanks for letting me know. I'd forgotten about these! - Lucky 6.9 05:19, 10 August 2005 (UTC)


A user has been unilaterally waging edit wars to change Template:Infobox Pope to a version he wants. Your comments would be welcome. FearÉIREANNCoat of arms of Ireland.svg\(caint) 00:45, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


Keep up the good work! One of my big todo tasks which I kept putting off.--Jondel 07:04, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Friendly Chat[edit]

I awarded you with a barnstar because of your great work and dedication to Filipino related articles. I will also vote for you because you have the makings of a great admin. Good luck Tony the Marine 05:01, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thank you very much for the barnstar. I will wear it proudly! The time (..and name) was a bit off when you posted it, but I've fixed that to correspond to the time you added it to the page. Thanks again, and thanks for your support at WP:RFA. :) Coffee 08:10, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Your RfA[edit]

Your namesake

...Folgers is good to the last drop...I say you are too, and I offer sincere support to you on your nomination, and hope dearly that you become an adm.

Also, I will award you this Barnstar of Diligence for your diligent efforts on Wikipedia.

Barnstar of Diligence.png

Take care,[User:Dbraceyrules|D. J. Bracey]] (talk) California state flag.png 16:46, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the award! Three barnstars and adminship in one month... :) Coffee 04:53, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Adminship congratulations[edit]

You're an admin. Check out the advice, and best wishes. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 20:29, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Congrats, best of luck. – Friejose 20:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
    Thanks very much, I'll be a good admin. :) Coffee 04:53, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations, Coffee. I'm sure you'll make a great admin. --NormanEinstein 15:08, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
  • Congrats on your adminstratorhip! Enjoy your superpowers.--Jondel 04:59, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations, and you're quite welcome! Yes, I operate on WP:RFA as much as I can; I consider it to be almost as important as VfD. Ave atque vale, --Merovingian (t) (c) 06:42, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
  • Maligayang bati at wala'y sapayan! :-) --Chris S. 07:42, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes congratulations and good luck! I know you'll do what you can to make Wikipedia better and do a great service for the community here. See you 'round the wiki! Hamster Sandwich 16:23, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations! FeloniousMonk 22:24, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • You're so cute! I actually know what you mean. Keep in mind that successful RFAs are good things to look back on make you feel better about yourself during the rough times. :) Dmcdevit·t 06:09, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
  • Congrats! Finally we discover that TheCoffee is SuperCoffee! :) --Noypi380 01:28, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
  • No problem. Congratulations, you perky cup of sludge! ;) Sorry, I'm more of a soda drinker. Acetic Acid 08:31, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
  • Congrats! ≈ jossi ≈ 23:08, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Empire Strikes Back article[edit]

There is a huge dispute over at that article, in which I'm involved. I suggest you go over there and shorten that plot summary as well, like you did Revenge of the Sith. By the way, if you haven't noticed already, I moved the plot summary under the opening crawl. Adamwankenobi 01:56, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

What do you know, I actually already started shortening that plot summary. That one is the longest, approaching 3000 words. I'm quite pleased with the length of the ROTS plot summary, so I'll try to get them all to about the same length. Coffee 04:53, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
I think it's fine now. But there are still many flaws, such as the cast list, which Adam refuses to let go of. I request that you help fight off this Starcruft, despite that you may be a fan.
And yes, I am a GameFAQs member, but you never saw me on LUE. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:36, August 28, 2005 (UTC)


Hi Coffee. Thanks for helping out on WP:IFD. But please read the instructions at WP:IFD#Instructions for administrators. Non-orphans (for example, Image:Breast.jpg) aren't deleted at IFD. dbenbenn | talk 17:38, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Ah, alright. Thanks! Coffee 17:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

I actually SAW you become an admin[edit]

I saw the count was nearing 700K so I rapid refreshed for a screenshot. Then I saw the admin count go up by one o.O Redwolf24 18:16, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Haha... cool. My adminship coincides with the creation of the 700,000th article. o_o Coffee 09:11, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


It's a well-written section, but it shouldn't eliminate the need for watching the movie. A plot summary should be short and sweet, and it should just set them up for the full plot to be shown to them in the movie. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:23, August 25, 2005 (UTC)


Skyring emailed me the same question (he cannot post directly since he's under a one year ban), below I've quoted my response to the question, if you have any further questions about this please leave me a note on my talk page. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 05:43, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Believe me it was probably one of the tougher decisions I had to make on FPC and it definately is a great picture and it adds a lot to the article, however even though I'm pretty lose on what constitutes consensus I did not feel that there was a great consensus to promote, even though it was extremely close.


Skyring wrote:

> > > It might not be the best picture in the world, but it received 11 Support votes and 5 Oppose and I'd like to know why you didn't promote it, please! > > Yours aye, > Peter

Meycauayan, Bulacan locator map...[edit]

...has a misspelling. Hope you can fix it up, but no hurry. :) --seav 17:29, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Fixed! Nice catch... Coffee 02:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Star Wars - Cast List[edit]

(Discussion continued from User_talk:Adamwankenobi)

However, being a frequent conributor to these articles, not to mention working on the cast lists, I don't want to see my edits reverted to what I see as incomplete. I don't to see them changed by people who clearly have no interest in the content of the articles (A Link to the Past), who are instead interested in making the articles like all the others on the site. Adamwankenobi 20:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, nothing more horrible than trying to make the Star Wars articles GOOD. - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:38, August 30, 2005 (UTC)


for deleting that stupid article I listed at Vfd. Editors Barnstar.png, I am Dbraceyrules, by the way, just changed the user name. V. Molotov Large bonfire.jpg 22:10, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks... I'm enjoying my new admin powers. *pounds delete button furiously* --Coffee 22:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
LOL.—Encephalon | ζ  13:56:42, 2005-08-31 (UTC)

Star Wars categories[edit]

I didn't do such thing. Copperchair 07:21, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Your edits do not make sense[edit]

  • Do not add the tagline, awards, and ratings fields to the movie templates on Star Wars film articles. They are not part of the template, and are not displayed. They only serve to clutter the wikicode with information that no one will see.

All right.

  • Do not change the category from "Star Wars episodes" to "Star Wars films". The episodes category is a subcategory of films, and better organized.

But I like the name of the Episode in the category better.

  • Do not change the {{Star Wars episodes}} template into {{Starwars}}. The new template is smaller and gives more information.

All right, but the "Starwars episodes" template currently doesn't appear in the article of "A New Hope". Copperchair 07:37, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

ROTJ Poster[edit]

I believe the 2004 DVD shows the poster as the official poster. I wasn't the person who put it there, by the way, I put it back in, however when A Link to the Past reoved it. I'll check. Adamwankenobi 06:09, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I believe, though, on the "posters" section on the bonus disc, the caption says that the one I had on there was the original theatrical poster. Adamwankenobi 06:25, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Both of the posters were syle A, according to the DVD. Would this have any significance? Do you know which was released first? I think we should use the one that was released first. Adamwankenobi 07:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for supporting my RFA. Rl 12:44, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

The Star Wars Holiday Special[edit]

Hi, noticed your dispute at The Star Wars Holiday Special. Fastbak77 seems to have a good reason to believe the the Holiday Special never aired on the program "Recovery". Simply saying "it must be there for a reason" is not a very compelling argument. When a user questions the credibility of a statement on Wikipedia, it's better to err on the side of removing it, rather than possibly spreading misinformation. I have nothing against you personally, but please don't re-insert that statement into the article unless you have a reason to believe it is true. Coffee 17:33, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I want to leave it because the comments from the person that put it there are just as credible as those from the one who took it away. Adamwankenobi 19:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
When I said trhat I'm not familiar with the show, I meant Recovery, the disputed show the holiday special reportedly aired on. I am not familiar with Recovery. However, the person who put the section on it in the article in the first place wouldn't have put it there just tom put it there. They had to have a rason for putting it there in the first place. Adamwankenobi 03:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Star Trek[edit]

Hi again. Inserting a like saying that Star Trek is "the best show of all time, only second best when compared with Star Wars", is clearly a violation of the Wikipedia policy of conforming to a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. This policy is one of the five pillars of Wikipedia, and I suggest you read it closely before making further edits. Coffee 17:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I know that that is obviously a ponit of view. My remark was just a little revenge on the trekkies for a similar remark on the star wars page. Adamwankenobi 19:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


Don't forget to include an appropriate image tag and a source when uploading files... it helps ensure that Wikipedia conforms with copyright laws, and it would ease the work at the image tagging project. By the way, where did you get Image:Indy4_poster.jpeg? I haven't been able to find it on any reliable commercial site, and I'm concerned it might be just a fan-made poster. The movie hasn't even started filming yet... not even teaser posters are released that early. Coffee 18:01, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I must have forgot. It was late, and well, usually I don't forget. By the way, the image on Indy 4 is a fan made poster. I got it from Adamwankenobi 19:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

No shes dead....I SAID SHES DEAD!!!![edit]

Ayla secura is dead she will not return,it is rumored the actor will return but definently dead. Lucas would never do this. How would the scene open after bieng shot to the ground 27-33 times Ayla rises "what the hell just happened"?!, if shes alive then so is Mace Windu, Kit Fisto and Zett!

You don't know that. If you'll remember, in ROTS, as she was being shot, the camera went behind a huge leaf. This leaves it open. Adamwankenobi 08:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Don't be silly, Adam. She's dead. Coffee 18:35, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Continuity is the deciding factor in that, not the OS. Adamwankenobi 19:37, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Holiday Special airing dates[edit]

Why do you remove the statement on the HS page about it airing on Recovery? It came from someone who likely had reason to put it there, otherwise it wouldn't be there. Adamwankenobi 22:43, 6 September 2005 (UTC)


Coffee, I am a frequent reader of Wiki pages, but have not been a contributor nor have a login account as yet. I followed the link in todays "In the News" article about GMA to the main article about her and noticed some vandalism in para 3 of the section "Entry into politics". Looking at the "Edit this page" section, the text was not there to delete. I dont know how to fix that one, so as an admin, perhaps you do. Rgds, HWG.

It seems to be fixed now. Coffee 07:11, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm...I would expect pages like to be vandalized more as of late. I will help out keeping watch. Again, congrats admin dude! Oh no! Look out in the sky, its a bird? its a plane? no, its SuperCoffee! :) --Noypi380 14:35, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Quick del[edit]

Hey Coffee, how are things? I was wondering if you wouldn't mind doing me a tiny favor. Could you delete this page please? It's a user subpage I made that's got a cumbersome title. Thanks!—encephalonέγκέφαλος  06:25:11, 2005-09-11 (UTC)

Sure... *deletes* Coffee 13:21, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Coffee!—encephalonέγκέφαλος 


I was a little surprised to see this deletion discussion closed with a delete for both articles. I see the following, roughly 25 to 14:

Before the rewrite, User:Thivierr said "While I think we should carry forward with the deletion (since the sole conent is a small copy/paste), I would actually support a future article on the school, if done properly, given the fact this elementary school is bigger than a lot of high schools (including my own). But, I don't beleive in keeping stubs in the name of "hope". So, carry on with the delete." He struck out his delete vote after the rewrite, and later added a keep vote for the rewrite. Splash and Apyule (who tagged the copyvio) also changed their votes from delete to keep after the rewrite.

Speaking personally, I would have been inclined to close this as a non-consensus keep, even adopting a very generous 2/3 definition for rough consensus, although I agree it is pretty close. --Tony SidawayTalk 07:14, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Going strictly by the numbers, it comes to 64% in favor of delete... it's walking a thin line, but I sided with deletion. But now that I take a closer look... I think it would have gotten more keep votes if more people looked at the rewrite and past the "Primary School" in the title. And the earlier votes were based on the old version. Heck, I'll just put back the rewrite. It is a very good rewrite and does a better job at establishing notability than most high school articles we keep. :p Coffee 13:21, 11 September 2005 (UTC)


Hi. This image was linked to the Game Boy Advance article and had been downloaded from the Stock.XCHNG. I dug up the original from and re-uploaded it. Hope that this is alright, if there was any special reason why you deleted the file, please let me know. Anetode 06:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I deleted that when when processing nominations at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/August 27, 2005. The reason given was that it was out of focus, but there's no need to delete if it's used on an article. Coffee 10:17, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Check Categories for Deletion[edit]

You bypassed Categories for Deletion, where it was decided last month to not delete District of Columbia categories. [2]

  1. Category:District of Columbia
  2. Category:Washington, District of Columbia
  3. Category:History of the District of Columbia
  4. Category:Images of District of Columbia
  5. Category:Government of the District of Columbia
  6. Category:Cities in District of Columbia

(SEWilco 04:57, 14 September 2005 (UTC))

Whoa, watch out there... you accidentally tagged my talk page for speedy deletion. :p Those categories were tagged for speedy deletion and I deleted them when processing entries at CAT:CSD. They met criteria C1, which says "Empty categories (no articles or subcategories) whose only content has consisted of links to parent categories". Coffee 05:04, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Look at the Deletion Log and you see at least one was not empty; they were emptied by a user when he put 'db' on. The db template also reminds you to check the History, where you would have seen mention of the CfD. (SEWilco 05:50, 14 September 2005 (UTC))
Its CfD history shouldn't change the fact that it is a speedy delete candidate, but yeah, it shouldn't have been deleted if someone emptied it just for the speedy delete tag. Feel free to recreate it if you want. Coffee 11:19, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Done for those I could identify. Started CFD to resolve the Category:Washington, D.C. issue one way or another. (SEWilco 06:37, 15 September 2005 (UTC))

Arpingstone Deletions[edit]

Hi! from Adrian. Thanks for your work in seeking out and deleting orphaned pics, it's very much appreciated. Because of the large number of my orphaned pics I've only been able to check 20 of them. Those 20 were all unwanted so, on that basis, it's OK to delete the lot. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 09:11, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! Coffee 11:19, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

The Phantom Leyte[edit]

You noticed pala that Leyte is missing. I was supposed to scrape the map tiles but was shocked to see Leyte missing. =) --seav 01:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I also e-mailed Google using their feedback form. Maybe if enough users tell Google about it, they'd fix it? Ano tingin mo? =) --seav 01:07, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, they said they read all the feedback they get, so at least someone at Google must be aware of it. I guess they'll have to fix that eventually. I'd rather bug them to get high res satellite pictures of Metro Manila. :D By the way, I've seen your blog before... I'm pretty sure I saw this a long time ago when Googling for La Salle or Ateneo. :p Coffee 06:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Amen on the high-res photos of Metro Manila. I'd really love to see Ortigas and the Makati Central Business District in all its satellite imagery glory. Glad to see you dropping by my blog once in a while. =) --seav 14:27, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, I have too. You're a friend of Ramil. --Migs 06:20, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Are you referring to me? Ramil's my batchmate in college. =) --seav 14:27, 15 September 2005 (UTC)


Hi, any chance you could mark all of your ifd headers as minor edits? You're filling up the Recent changes page. User:Zoe|(talk) 07:06, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sure. Coffee 07:10, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
thanks.  :) User:Zoe|(talk) 07:12, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

on template:attribution[edit]

hola. love your prettier version of the template. this may be a bit of a nit-pick. where it says "anyone to use it for any purpose" came out just a little funny. for some reason the "it" and the bold "for" seem really close together. My formatting magic is not strong enough yet to fix it. could you teach me that trick? thankz, dzznologic2 19:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

File:Internet oolong.jpg
I make more sense.
For the life of me, I cannot decipher what it is you're trying to say. So here's a bunny with a pancake on its head. Coffee 12:37, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. wooo! sorry. I'm so tech illiterate compared to most people I meet on 'pedia. Look at the template. where it says "anyone to use it for any purpose" the word "it" and the word "for" appear so close together that it looks like there is no space between them. :] maybe it's simply cuz the word for is bolded. I went to put a space between them but when I hit preview I saw no difference. I think it would look best if there appeared to be a space there. hehe. thankz for that pic. dzznologic2 20:17, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Greetings, and your opinion is requested ...[edit]

Hello! I hope you're well. I noticed that you previously commented on the Human Development Index (HDI) pages. Thanks! I wanted to bring to your attention an initiative I'm administrating to include this indicator in the Wikipedia country infobox/template. Care to vote on this issue? :)

Please let me know if you've any questions. Thanks for your anticipated participation. In any event, take care! E Pluribus Anthony 12:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

My talk page[edit]

Thanks for your support. (Sound Off) 07:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm astonished at your support for Zach's actions. I've noticed the consideration you've shown in dealing with Adrian Pingstone's images, which to my mind is how it should be done, and yet you seem to be supporting Zscout in deleting personal images, without consultation, simply because they were uploaded before compulsory tagging. jimfbleak 08:09, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't just consider them "Zach's actions"... Jimbo authorized and encouraged administrators to deal with untagged and unsourced images by deleting them. If they have a beef with the policy change, they shouldn't take it out on Zach.
Users are already warned on the upload page that these images would eventually be deleted. They're warned again when the {{no source}} and {{no license}} tags are placed on the images. Now they're warned again with the notice on the watchlist page. WP:PUI was originally created to deal with these thousands of images, but one year after its creation the backlog has only grown exponentially. Individually notifying the uploaders of tens of thousands of images would theoretically be ideal, but it would take a huge amount of effort. IMO, it's not worth directing the efforts of experienced Wikipedians to deal with the... ah... oversights of generally less experienced Wikipedians.
I can understand that many people will be unhappy about this new policy, but that's my opinion, and I think it's the most efficient way to ensure that Wikipedia really is the free encyclopedia. Coffee 10:58, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I was just looking in and read this. Just had to say I love your way with words and the way you explain things.—encephalon 09:56, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! :-> Coffee 14:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

You have some kind of deletion bot, don't you?[edit]

Or are you just using a tabbed browser to the fullest? I'm asking because I wrote, and use, a semi-automated tool to pull up the info on unsourced images, and, after checking some conditions, ask me about deleting them all in a batch, then delete them all in a batch. I noticed you making many deletions in the same minute, so I assumed you had a similar tool. Let me know. Thanks for all your work on the pedia! JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:42, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm just going wild with a tabbed browser and copy-pasting the edit summaries. What kind of tool are you using there? And is it something I could use? :) Coffee 09:48, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I do have a semi-automated tool, and you are welcome you use it if you wish. Contact me via irc(JesseW) or Emailthisuser, and I'll get it working for you. JesseW, the juggling janitor 17:13, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Unused images[edit]

Hi Sonic Mew, it seems you have a lot of unused Pokémon images that you uploaded. 99, to be exact (see the list at the top of this page). Are you planning to use these, or can I have them deleted? There's a new speedy deletion criterion that includes unused "fair use" images, since we can't claim fair use on unused images. :p Coffee 08:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I did put all of them on pages, but they have since been removed and whoever did it just didn't list them on ifd then. (Most were what I could find to improve the Pokémon species articles, which were replaced by official artwork during WP:PAC.) So you are free to delete all of them. Sonic Mew | talk to me 13:52, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Er. Some of them still had some value, so I put them into articles and removed them from the list. I hope nobody minds. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 13:56, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
If they're useful, I don't see why that would be a problem. Sonic Mew | talk to me 13:59, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Alrighty then... Coffee 14:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Move request[edit]

Hello Coffee! Can you please move Alves Reis to Alves dos Reis, which is the correct version? dos is a fundamental preposition in portuguese names that works as the of in English, van in Dutch or von in German. Cheers, muriel gottrop, 13:13, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Sure... Coffee 13:20, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Phillipine Barnstar[edit]

Hi Coffee, I don't know if you still monitor the Barnstars page, but I put in a belated reply to your question here. --Deathphoenix 19:02, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


Ah, thank you for speaking up on the "CALABARZONA" question. The word of a Filipino on this issue is good enough for me; I switched it to a redirect as a possible misspelling. DS 16:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Yup, that's what I would do.. Coffee 16:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Locator maps[edit]

Hi Coffee, I was wondering whether you are still making the Philippine locator maps for cities and municipalities. This must have been a really huge project to create all of these maps. If I can, I would like to contribute to the remaining part of this project, but I do not know which software to use and where to get the base map you are using. Maybe you can explaing to me, which procedure you and seav use to make these locator maps? For you information, I am using the articles on the English Wikipedia as a basis to create the equivalent articles on the Dutch Wikipedia. During this process I am also uploading the locator maps to Commons, so that other Wikipedias can use the maps as well. See Category:Maps of the Philippines. Magalhães 07:10, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, I guess I've put that on hiatus until I...uhh...feel like continuing. :p Right now there are 617 city/municipality maps. That's 38% of a total 1617, and exactly 1000 to go. Help would be nice, if you think you're up to it. :) I'm not sure exactly how Seav made his maps, except that he used Photoshop. I use Photoshop and trace the land area from Google Maps, then get the internal province borders from Mapcentral. It's pretty time consuming. :/ Coffee 16:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I will start practising first to make sure I am ready for it ;). Magalhães 16:55, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I have got the software now. Just one stupid question: How can I save the image from google maps? Right mouse click does not work. Or do you normally just capture it from the screen somehow? Magalhães 07:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I just press the "PrintScreen" button, which copies the contents of the screen so I could paste it. Coffee 10:35, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Talk about time consuming; I created my maps before there was even a Google Maps. And MapCentral wasn't reliable then. Tama nga hula ko na ginamit mo ang Google Maps para sa mga land-water info. :) Is there a page somewhere that lists the maps already created? Anyway, FWIW, I think you have my methodology down pat. Except that I avoid putting the municipality/city name within the red region (only exception is Rodriguez, Rizal), placing the province's name as balanced with the red region and within the yellow region as possible, and having the red region entirely cover the adjacent grey borders. I use a 600px source PSD file which I then downsample to 300px PNG file. :) --seav 11:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
...and that is why I noticed Leyte is missing from Google Maps. :p Right now we've got maps for the cities/municipalities of 32 provinces and Metro Manila:
Abra, Agusan del Norte, Agusan del Sur, Aklan, Albay, Antique, Apayao, Aurora, Basilan, Bataan, Batanes, Batangas, Benguet, Biliran, Bohol, Bukidnon, Bulacan, Cagayan, Camarines Norte, Camiguin, Catanduanes, Cavite, Cebu, Guimaras, La Union, Laguna, Metro Manila, Negros Occidental, Negros Oriental, Palawan, Rizal, Siquijor, Sorsogon
Coffee 18:02, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Stamp image[edit]

Coffee, you innapropriately deleted the image Image:Etienne desmarteau stamp.gif, which was of a Canadian postage stamp. As {{CanadaCopyright}}, fair dealing is very broadly interpreted, and is always allowed regardless of whether it is illustrating the individual or the stamp. Don't do this again please, you will seriously anger a lot of people if you start deleting images that are covered by CanadaCopyright Fawcett5 14:57, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

The image was tagged with {{Stamp}}, not {{CanadaCopyright}}. The image tag says: "use of postage stamps to illustrate the stamp in question (as opposed to things appearing in the stamp's design) qualifies as fair use. Other use of this image may be copyright infringement". Additionally, the image was listed on IFD for a week with no objections raised. If the deletion was inappropriate, I apologize. To prevent more CanadaCopyright images from being deleted, try to make sure they're appropriately tagged. :) Coffee 16:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Good work[edit]

I can see you are doing a lot of hard work deleting unlicensed image. Keep up the good work :). Thue | talk 08:46, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! :D Coffee 08:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

image deletions[edit]

That is odd. I think I know what it causeing it. When I'm deleting I set up a load of taps then delete very fast willy on wheels style which may mess things up. I've found a way to fix it though so I should be able to sort it out.Geni 17:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for the tip! I've added it into the article. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 02:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Old deletion discussions[edit]

Copied from here:

Somewhat belated I know, but I note that this issue has been raised before. I have just come across this which is actually the record of a failed VFD nomination. I don't think it should have been deleted, or indeed the other similar pages I suspect suffered the same fate. What's to be done? —Phil | Talk 12:44, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Star Wars template[edit]

Yeah, like I said on Link's page, I changed the templates so to organize things into categories. From the main page, you can access both the episodes and EU template, and on those respective pages, you can acces what are in those categories. I agree, it looks much better than it all together like I had it before. The Wookieepedian 17:11, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

If he doesn't agree, I just won't bother with it. I do not see why he wants this template, as it's providing less content, without compensating for that with significantly less size. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:32, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Image deletion[edit]

Hi, TheCoffee, seeing your post on someone's talk page, I just wanted to tell you that it seems a lot of images you've deleted, and you've deleted a lot, that we're listed here User:TheCoffee/Orphan images/1 were in fact used. It seems that when images are used as a link instead of displaying directly on the page, the wikipedia software tells you that they were unused even if they were. They're now deleted and this is probably irreversible, but next time you should care a little bit more before doing something like this, especially when the it depends on a limitation of the wikipedia software.

I'll try to be more careful... Coffee 05:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Template: Barugo [edit]

Delete: A navigational footer template consisting completely of red links. These are links to barangays of a certain municipality. Barangays in the Philippines are small communities of about 1000 people, and typically they are not notable enough to be article-worthy. Coffee 07:10, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

A big NO: You're right, those are links to barangays of a municipality, specifically, Barugo, Leyte, but certainly, they are article-worthy. Try going out once in a while and go to far-flung barangays and you'll find some stories worth writing about. I haven't yet created articles about barangays of Barugo in their Tagalog version -- I'm still working on it -- but I already have started some in the Waray Wikipedia. Go here: [3], then tell me what you think. I'm new here in Wikipedia and I know little about programming. I just want to contribute some information about my hometown. Bornok 20 07:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!!!!Bornok 20 07:52, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

That's exactly my plan, to make articles for all barangays of Barugo. I and my friends back home made a book about that that's why i'm so eager to make that template because i know that, given enough time, i can make those articles. But i'm not planning on making articles for the rest of the barangays of the Philippines! hehe... Thanks for your advice. Just bear with me okay? I'm just a beginner...Bornok 20 06:24, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Page Deletion[edit]

You deleted the article on "The Spizzwinks (?)" from wikipedia due to a copyright violation between wikipedia and the groups homepage ( I am a member of the group and can have the appropriate people contact you in order to grant permission.

I did? That must have been quite a while ago.. I don't often get involved in deleting copyright violations. Anyway, if you do have permission to contributed content from that website, just indicate so on the article's talk page or in a "references" section. Coffee 05:19, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
There was also some original content on the page. It takes an admin to revert it to the edits before the page was deleted. Is there any way you can help do this? I can give you email address of our business manager (not in public to spare him spam), so you can indicate it's not in violation.
That's alright, I'll take your word for it... article is restored: The Spizzwinks(?). :) Coffee 03:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

The way things are done on Wikipedia[edit]

All right. Where? Copperchair 02:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Another Image deletion[edit]

You deleted File:DSCN1187.JPG as "(no source/license)" but the image comment was "This is a picture of an ultraviolet light I took with my digital camera. It is to be used for the ultraviolet lightdiscussion page." which IMHO clearly gives a source and an implied license, which is a shame as Id rather like to have seen it.--Pypex 00:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I tend to be more liberal with my criteria for "no license" with images that are unused. Had I known it was linked to from Talk:Ultraviolet, I wouldn't have deleted it. Coffee 12:26, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Sadily the image was uploaded June 3rd 2005, had it been uploaded a week earlier I would have gladly restored it for you. The developers produce dumps of the images from time to time, which I currently keep forever, but they have not done one since May 30th. Might be a good excuse to ping the developers to make public image dumps a little more often. :-( --Gmaxwell 02:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Orphan images that are not[edit]

Email me if you would like a list of all :Image: and in the main namespace. You can use it to filter your removal of orphaned images.--Gmaxwell 02:37, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Using this list I detected that the deletion of File:Law and Order music string.ogg had been made in error. I recovered the object from my local backup, and improved the licensing tags somewhat. I've also adjusted how the object is linked from the article so it no longer appears to be an orphan. So the problem is completely resolved. Now isn't this so much nicer than having someone scream at you because you deleted their pet copyvio? ;) --Gmaxwell 03:17, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Actually, considering that I've deleted thousands of images in the past month or so, I've gotten relatively few complaints compared to, say, Zscout370. :) Coffee


I can see the problem, but I have no idea how that happened. All I was doing was hitting Delete all revisions of this file, adding a reason to the box and sending. I may have been using Alt+S to send, but I don't recall doing so.--nixie 07:35, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Unsourced images[edit]

Thank you so very much for deleting the unused unsourced images! I was a little bit worried when I saw that some were incorrectly tagged, but it turned out that those has just been updated (or used) since the source of my data... I guess that happens when you're talking about >1500 images. :) Are there any other classes of images I can identify that would be useful to you? Do you have an interest in deleting older nosource images which are only used outside of the main namespace? --Gmaxwell

Sure, I love deleting lots of images. Lately I've been going through my list of unused images to delete all sorts of images that fall under speedy criteria. Among them:
  • Unused images with no source/license (officially they should be in their respective categories, but since they're unused I just cut through the red tape and delete them, and so far I've had no complaints)
  • Unused fair use images (you have a list of these already, though it would be helpful to know which of them are linked non-inline)
  • Unused "non-free" license images (like Images used with permission or Non-commercial use only images)
click click click, paste paste paste, delete delete delete... :) Coffee 08:51, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
So, I went and removed the Orphaned fair use images tags and added notorphaned tags to the fair use images that weren't really orphaned. There were actually very few of them. It'll be a couple more days before 7 since I tagged them passes which is needed by the current (silly IMHO) CSD for main-namespace orphaned fair use images... I know lots of people have been deleting them before that, but since there are so many in this pass I'm sure that there are bound to be some complaints, so it might be good to wait. I'm also trying to get a new image dump, so I can recover anything that was deleted by mistake. When you nuke them you should make sure they haven't been retagged since I initally tagged them. --Gmaxwell 15:26, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Whee... I'll get to work on those. Coffee 05:41, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Wheelbig image[edit]

Hi there TheCoffee, I realise you have a lot more experience than me, but i wasnt pleased when i found out you had deleted my Wheelbig file of the Queen opening the falkirk wheel - its an historical event, I took the picture myself, and I'm rather proud of it. It seems to me you are getting a bit over-enthusiastic about this all? Anyway, I'll put it back, please don't do this again without asking.I can be the only person who doesnt have all the rules in my pocket, and if you exclude the small time posters with that great shot, you get rid of most of the point of this system. cheers, Excalibur

Ah, if you're talking about Image:Wheelbig2.jpg, it wasn't merely my decision to delete it. It was listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion by User:Nv8200p with the given reason "obsoleted by Image:FalkirkWheelSide 2004 SeanMcClean.jpg". No objections were raised and I deleted it when processing old nominations at that page. Coffee 14:55, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Aha, well I wonder what you think about the replacing of a perfectly good image of the Falkirk Wheel taken on the day of its opening by the Queen with another perfectly good image but without her said Majesty? Is this really about vanity? I notice he has put three pictures in, maybe he just likes showing off his work, but surely there should be room to share credits, and I was there first! I regard the replacement as unjustifiable: my picture isnt obsolete. How do I put it back without getting into a tit for tat - I dont really have time to keep checking? Excalibur 16:42, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, to be honest I don't really remember the image that was deleted. But I agree that a picture of the Queen at the wheel's opening is notable enough in its own right to be included in the article in addition to the images that are already there. Feel free to upload it again at put it back on the page. The article actually already has quite a few images, but perhaps if the caption indicates that it's the opening and the Queen is there, people would be less, umm, prone to removing it. Coffee 16:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there, came to say thanks for the note on my talk page - always nice to think that people do appreciate the effort it takes to add to wiki. I've noticed the above comments and think that the original image should definitely go back on the page with a note saying that it was taken on the opening. I do not like replacing images that others have placed on here as I do also appreciate that it takes time and effort. The only reason I did so was because of a comment on the talk page. I'd had the image to upload but didn't do it before the requested image change because the article already had the said image. I will also leave a note on Excalibur's talk page saying the same thing. Kind regards. SeanMack 17:12, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks again for your kind words! I see you like Rubik's :-), just a thought - if you do think that a page has too many images there is always the possibilty of starting a gallery. That way people can see that there are multiple PD images for any use as well as illustrating the article, without distracting too much from the article. I've done this on Edinburgh Zoo, it also has the benefit that if the text in an article grows - the images can be placed throughout the text at a future point (imho anyways...) Take care. SeanMack 17:50, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Coffee 05:41, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


Thank you for the note. I was unaware such a tag existed, but you're right, given its presence it is more appropriate than GFDL-self in the case you mentioned. Perhaps GFDL-presumed should be added to the list of image tags we have somewhere; I believe that it is missing. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 02:17, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Star Wars[edit]

Coffee, you might want to protect Star Wars as well, since Copperchair keeps removing sections from it, just as frequently as he does the film articles. The Wookieepedian 06:25, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm.. I don't have Star Wars on my watchlist and haven't been following what's been going on there. Just go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection to have that protected. Coffee 06:46, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I notice that you identified the dispute on this set of articles as being primarily between two editors, User:The Wookieepedian and User:Copperchair. As they don't appear to be engaging in any dialog on the substantive differences, I don't think the protection serves any real purpose except to stop people editing the articles.

I also notice that one is undergoing an arbitration case, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Copperchair, which complicates things a little.

Would you mind if I were to unprotect the articles and warn the edit warriors that I intend to block them for disruption if they continue warring? --Tony SidawayTalk 09:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

See also my request for review of this plan on WP:ANI. --Tony SidawayTalk 09:59, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree completely, protecting these articles hasn't been doing any good (though at least The Wookieepedian tried). I've unprotected the 6 articles. Coffee 12:35, 2 November 2005 (UTC)


Why does the lead section of WP:IFD discourage people from listing images duplicated at the Commons? I dug around in the page history and found that you originally added that line. I'd just like to know the reasoning behind it. Coffee 12:44, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

There was some talk of being able to push images to the Commons, maintaining the edit and upload history. But it's been a while, and no one seems to have actually done anything about it. Feel free to modify what I wrote. dbenbenn | talk 01:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Start your deletion engines[edit]

I have now produced a live report of tagged orphaned fair use media. Everything in that list has been tagged as an orphan for at least 7 days and currently appears to be orphaned. The list is uploaded whenever you load it. I hope to find it much shorter when I load it next. Enjoy. --Gmaxwell 04:32, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Sweet. *pounds delete button furiously* Coffee 12:01, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Hey, I just wanted to thank you for your support vote on my RfA. I'll see you around the Star Wars pages! — Phil Welch 22:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

I just wanted to thank you for your support of my RfA which finally passed! I greatly appreciate it! Ramallite (talk) 04:28, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Adminship[edit]

Hi, yeah I'd be willing to give it a shot. It would defenently speed things up if I could simply delete speedyable images myself, and if I get tired of that helping out "executing" various delete desissions and what not could be interesting too. --Sherool (talk) 13:57, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Deleting Images[edit]

I only NOW discovered that back cover images of books I had scanned and uploaded, and linked from the images of the same books' front covers had been deleted. I don't quibble with that, but aren't users SUPPOSED to be notified when images they have uploaded get deleted? I'm having to backtrack and delete the links from the front covers of these books that point to back covers that no longer exist. --JohnDBuell | Talk 16:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I see what happened... I deleted those images because they were unused "fair use" images– and we can't claim fair use on images we're not using. I couldn't have known that they actually were used because the "File links" section on the image description page doesn't show when it is linked to by a text link (and "Whatlinkshere" is broken for images). When images are deleted under this criteria there's no requirement to inform the uploader. Coffee 03:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Featured Picture[edit]

FalkirkWheelSide 2004 SeanMcClean.jpg
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
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Congratulations! Raven4x4x 07:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks + Please take a peek[edit]

Thanks again for catching my mistaken reversion on Calasiao, Pangasinan. I appreciate it.

While I have your attention, I'm hoping you could do me another favor. I cleaned up a very messy article on a topic that I really don't know much about. Could you take a quick peek at it for me? It's ACQ-Kingdom Broadcasting Network, an article on the media network of a Davao televangelist. The main thing I want to be sure of is that TAHANAN SA KAHARIAN and BATANG KAHARIAN are really Tagalog program titles. But I'd also be curious to know how notable you think the subject is; it's a little hard for me to tell from here. Thanks, --William Pietri 22:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for checking things out. It's a big old world, and I think it's fantastic that Wikipedia's editors are everywhere in it. --William Pietri 04:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Lueshi[edit]

I am sorry, but my decision will stand. The page had been deleted three times prior to my action, and IMO, a single piece of ASCII art, no matter how elaborate, really is not an appropriate topic on its own in Wikipedia. Perhaps it could be mentioned under ASCII art, or be placed on Wikisource.  Denelson83  20:01, 13 November 2005 (UTC)


I contacted the people who uploaded the pics and informed them of the wiki policy regarding pics. I will get back to yo when that will be resolved. Thanks for the critique, The pic prob slipped me by. :) :) --Noypi380 06:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)