User talk:TheDJ

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Thank you for fixing the templates[edit]

Thanks for fixing the calculus article looks so much better now. The bottom collapsable templates need the same fix. See for example my sandbox of calculus templates. You can see the templates load fully expanded then immediately collapse. Brian Everlasting (talk) 02:50, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

life is hard[edit]

I found out that in life u can not get what u wished for but u only get what u worked for. You never know the importance of life until is gone then u see the meaning of it Atang5722 (talk) 08:10, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

New prototype for edit conflict handling ready for testing[edit]

Hey :-), we finally made it and the prototype for an alternative Two Column Conflict view is ready for testing! - all infos here: m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Edit_Conflicts/Feedback_Round_Paragraph-Based_Prototype. Would be great if you find time to look into it! Thanks a ton, --Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talk) 18:03, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Recent revert at AN[edit]

Please explain on what basis you reverted the constructive comment of an IP editor. John from Idegon (talk) 01:06, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Multi try catch?[edit]

Awhile back, you mentioned that a script of mine needed a try catch.

Well, now I have a script that may need a number of try catches: SearchSuite.js.

I'm not sure what the best way to proceed is. How would you go about it?

(And if you see other problems, or ways the script can be improved, feel free to comment on those too.)

I look forward to your reply. Sincerely,     — The Transhumanist    19:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

P.S.: please {{ping}} me in your reply. Thank you. -TT

Doing a Popups project for Google Summer of Code[edit]

Hi! I pinged you over on the Phab task, but in case you didn't see it, I'm proposing a Google Summer of Code project where I remove the old summarizer & parser code and replace it with calls to the modern API. I was originally thinking action=parse, but it could be the same call that Hovercards uses. I'm also looking for mentors who are familiar with JS & gadgets - you're one of the people most experienced with hacking on this gadget, but it is a big time commitment. Anyway, feel free to add a comment if you want! Enterprisey (talk!) 05:14, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Qui Doesn't work[edit]

Is it my browser, or what? Note: I put in into my common.js instead of vector.js. Here is my browser info: qwerty6811 :-) Chat Ping me 18:45, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Collapsible functionality on mobile[edit]

Would it be possible to enable the scripts for collapsible functionality on mobile, but just in a select namespace? For example, project namespace, and being able to use it on a page like Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC with a collapsible list of local events.--Pharos (talk) 18:56, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

...for your reply on the Help Desk page. Best Regards, Barbara   09:01, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Help needed for[edit]

Hi, i'm from bnwiki. We use Mediawiki:RefToolbar.js same as enwiki. When we click on access date icon for auto filling date, the date always in english. so, i added this code for converting English digit to Bengali digit (which i copied from another site). Everything is working but could you please confirm me that code is ok? it will not cause any loading performance issue? please take a look, i will be very thankfull. --আফতাব (talk) 18:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Another RfC on Net Neutrality[edit]

A month ago you participated in an RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 147#Net neutrality. The same proposal has been posted again at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: A US-only CentralNotice in support of Net Neutrality. (This notice has been sent to all who participated in the prior RfC, regardless of which side they supported). --Guy Macon (talk) 20:51, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

css edits[edit]

Those edits now fuck up lots of things that should never have been 80% width, e.g. {{archives}} in Template_talk:Cite_Q, or {{edit template-protected}} in pretty much everywhere. Please don't make those changes without testing first. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@Headbomb: I'm really sorry, but it is very hard to find all the gazillion ways peoples have used some of this, so sometimes it just takes a bit to completely figure it out. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Probably a case where it's best to leave the 80% in place then? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:06, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Do you have more places that are still broken (after bypassing caching?) because i think i fixed everything you reported. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:07, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Those are just a few I caught when randomly loading talk pages. I'm sure there's more, I suppose I can keep an eye out. If it's critical to get rid of the 80%, probably a good idea to post a WP:VPT asking for people to report issues with template widths. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:11, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

This change causes a lot of issues with a bunch of talk page templates (it mostly varies with the zoom level). E.g. [1] vs [2]. I've been trying to re-organize things so that it's not so bad, but a better solution would be appreciated here. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:57, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Qui status[edit]

Hiya. Qui doesn't work for me. I'm on Chrome 66. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 00:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Need old printing style before October 2017[edit]

Hello buddy,

When I try to print out an article, I notice that the printing style of Wikipedia articles has been changed since around October 2017. I really need to use the old printing style. Could you tell me how to revert to the old printing style?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards, Tony

@Tony419c: The old style is no longer available. I wouldn't know how to recreate those results right now. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

2017 Wikitext editor[edit]

Responsive Content breaks the new editor by shifting the text. It is noticeable when syntax highlighting is enabled as it causes an issue similar to T180678. You can easily see this in e.g. United States. I tested it on Chrome 67 and Firefox 60 on Windows.--Nickps (talk) 12:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Your change to the sort template today[edit]

You made an edit to {{Template:Sort}} today. I have no clue regarding template coding. All I know is that it caused a funky doodle error at List of federal judges appointed by Ronald Reagan and some of our other list articles. It is visibly displaying the sort value that should be invisible, like this: <span data-sort-value="July 7, 2013!">December 1, 1990 The proceeding showed up just today and just after you made that edit to the sort template. Please fix or revert, as it is disrupting a number of our lists. Thanks. Safiel (talk) 19:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

When i get back to my laptop later tonight, ill take a look. But at first glance on that page, where this happens, i see dts being nested inside sort, which makes no sense as both are used to generate sortkeys. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:35, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Just want to note another editor has reverted the edit for the time being. Safiel (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Padding in MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages[edit]

Hi, why did you do this? It is causing my watchlist to flick down as the page loading completes, with the result that I occasionally click on a link that is on the line above the one intended. MonoBook skin, Opera 36. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

when you have undismissed notices, you always get that effect dont you ? —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 18:36, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Hmm, there might be something to this. Lemme guess. You are not using the watchlist filters stuff ?
The traditional watchlist uses a siteSub under the heading, that this probably clashes with. I'll think about an alternative methodology to apply padding consistenly for both variants —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:14, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, when I have undismissed notices it flicks - but that is a useful way of letting me know that a new RfA (or whatever) has just been posted - so I read it, act on it if necessary, and dismiss. When all messages are dismissed, it didn't flick before, and now it does. I turned off the new watchlist filters as soon as they became opt-out (see VPT), since that feature slows down watchlist loading to an unacceptable level. This rule fixes your edit to MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:35, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
@Redrose64: That is strange, when all messages are dismissed, that whole block should not be visible. Ah... I've spotted an error in the watchlist notice gadget... —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:46, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Hmm, flipped around for now. Can't really find a proper way to fix this, since this siteSub thing was so badly designed in 2005 ;) —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)� —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Well, what you did means that my custom rule is no longer needed, Face-smile.svg Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Pingen werkt niet?[edit]

Blijkbaar? Zie nl:Overleg MediaWiki:Common.css#Opruimen. --bdijkstra (talk) 18:44, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Timathom[edit]

Can we make the archives for User talk:Timathom into MULTIPLE archive pages instead of just ONE long archive page? Please {{ping}} me when you reply. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: sure, why not, go right ahead. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 17:53, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Reply - I will set up the automatic archiving, but I can not delete the existing archive page by myself. I added {{Db-move|User talk:Timathom/Archive 1|move page here so that it can be automatically archived into multiple pages instead of having ONE GIANT archive page}} to the page so that the old page can be moved back and automatically archived. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

css selector headache[edit]

(copied from User talk:MusikAnimal)

Hi MA, can you take a look at a headache I'm hitting? Some of the "destructive" buttons in monobook still have bad contrast, I fixed some a ways back but am having a problem selecting some. A fairly common example appears in the "block" button a seen here on testwiki. I've blanked out my examples in testwiki:Mediawiki:Monobook.css for a fresh try. Thanks in advance if you have the time! — xaosflux Talk 03:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Woah, this looks so different from vector! I'm guessing the colours changed with the recent responsive Monobook styles? The OOUI standard doesn't seem to be a thing. Anyway, the text colour is set by .oo-ui-buttonElement-framed.oo-ui-flaggedElement-destructive > .oo-ui-buttonElement-button so you could try overriding that. MusikAnimal talk 04:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the hints, no joy - tried lots of variants at testwiki:User:Xaosflux/monobook.css. Wonder if that special page is being overwritten in other code? — xaosflux Talk 10:25, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi TheDJ, if you have a moment can you take a look if the styling on the monobook block button text label is able to be adjusted via monobook.css as described above? Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 11:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes there is some 3-5 minutes of caching indeed. good to hear you were able to figure out what you needed. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 07:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Looks like some caching, etc may be at play - I finally got it bold, now just need to narrow down to one selector, looks like .oo-ui-buttonElement-framed.oo-ui-flaggedElement-destructive may be the best there. — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Geonotice map[edit]

Do you know if an alternative map implementation is possible? (your edit) Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 23:49, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

@Pharos: There is no alternative at this moment that I know of. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 10:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

WP is a Game[edit]

I added that link you provided at Jimbo's TP to the top of my user TP. Thank you for providing it. Atsme📞📧 00:42, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your help with my javascript request. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:53, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

IA nomination[edit]

Hello TheDJ, I've nominated you for a temporary interface administrator access grant at Wikipedia_talk:Interface_administrators#Stop-gap_users_nominated. If you do not wish to have this foisted upon you, feel free to remove yourself from the listing. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 02:49, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

sort templates[edit]

Hey, a few months back you edited {{Sort}} and {{Sortname}} to use spans with 'data-sort-value' instead of sortkeys. The template docs didn't get updated to remove the 'deprecated' tag, though; is it your understanding that your change is enough to un-deprecate those templates, even if the output isn't quite the same as having that data-sort-value class on the td tag itself? I had an editor do a sweep of a list I wrote to get rid of uses of those templates recently, and I'm curious if the issue is actually no longer present. --PresN 01:44, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Interface administrator[edit]

Hi TheDJ, per Special:Diff/856641107, I have temporarily added the interface administrator user-right to your account. I'm sure the temporary part of that will change to permanent once we have a mechanism to agree it! WormTT(talk) 17:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

sortname template[edit]

Your June edit to {{sortname}} to use data-sort-value was excellent, but you didn't update the template docs to reflect the change. Quale (talk) 06:20, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Quale, Is this better ? —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 08:00, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I think it is. I asked because the "What's generated" examples were no longer correct, and I was unsure whether the deprecation warning was still needed. Quale (talk) 04:05, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Apple for you[edit]

Welcome TheDJ. The gift is for you. Chickeo 08:43, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


requesting some js help.[edit]

Would it be possible for you to check out my common.js to find the errors, mainly missing the subpages link on the top bar (the addportlet part I assume). I am just not savvy enough to follow the village pump discussion about it.--☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 02:49, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

@Loriendrew: I made some changes, is it better for you now ? —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:50, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
It is... Thank you very much!--☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 15:03, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Interface Edit Requests - Bot Table[edit]

Hello TheDJ, as an interface administrator I wanted to let you know that there are two pages you should consider watch-listing: Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard and User:AnomieBOT/IPERTable. The later is a bot-generated table of all outstanding interface edit requests that you may be able to handle. Thank you for your continuing support of Wikipedia! — xaosflux Talk 14:40, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Actual Live Preview[edit]

Hello! I left a comment on the talk page of User:TheDJ/Actual Live Preview a while ago. Is this a tool that you are planning to maintain? Was thinking of bringing it to the community wishlist because it's such a great idea czar 17:22, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Czar, Yes i'm maintaining it. Although I have to say that I stopped using it all the time. I actually found it to be quite annoying sometimes, which I suspect has to do with the fact that it's positioning is often off. It is actually hard to do the positioning synchronisation and to make it successful would require that to be fixed. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 08:21, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


you kindly clarify this edit? Thanks!WBGconverse 04:53, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

I reverted it. I cannot find any evidence that the user is (or has ever been) blocked either here or on any other Wikipedia. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:05, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@Winged Blades of Godric and Redrose64: this user is the original Cameltrader, which got manipulated by a hacker to be renamed, after which the hacker got another account of his moved to the old Cameltrader account, thereby taking over the redirects of cameltraders javascripts. This in turn led to the hijacking of lots of accounts. I blocked the 'new Cameltrader', but since all his pages but the compromised JS were redirects, twinkle placed the warning to end up on the wrong account. This situation is still under investigation by security and stewards. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 08:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


Please see: Testwiki:Wikipedia:Requests/Permissions/TheDJ --Cameron11598 (Talk) 19:17, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Change coming to how certain templates will appear on the mobile web[edit]


I wanted to share a follow-up to an RfC you participated in from late 2016/early 2017. It was regarding making certain warning templates visible on mobile. The Readers web team has been working to improve how these templates appear on the mobile website. I shared an announcement with communities today that covers what is happening. If you have any interest, I encourage your support in giving feedback on the project page or helping update templates of this nature with some of our recommendations.

Thank you, CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message[edit]

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TOC limit[edit]

Hi. I noticed you made this edit to move the TOC limit to another template. It's caused an issue on this page (and related year articles), where it shows the full contents on the right hand-side. Previously, this was collapsed at month level. I've tried to fix this with Template:TOC limit, but with no success. The best I can get is for the months to be displayed ABOVE the Season Overview section, which isn't how it is supposed to look. Please can you advise? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:27, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Lugnuts, reverted for now and I will fix this later today. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 11:06, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

User scripts Newsletter - Invitation[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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For this. It works stupidly well, and has increased my productivity so much! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Please revert your edit to Template:TOC right[edit]

This edit breaks Wikipedia:Book sources and should be reverted until this bug is fixed.--Srleffler (talk) 18:24, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Script redirection request[edit]

Hi. You previously been willing to redirect unmaintained, widely used user scripts to maintained ones. Would you be willing to do so for User:Ucucha/duplinks.jsUser:Evad37/duplinks-alt.js? Ucucha's version hasn't been updated since 2011 (except for your fixes in 2017), and problems keep coming up at User talk:Ucucha/duplinks that have been fixed in my version. Many users are already using my version [3]. Cheers, - Evad37 [talk] 01:18, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Ucucha is minimally/marginally active, so perhaps it'd be better to discuss with them directly? AFAICT they haven't been pinged in a while. ~ Amory (utc) 02:47, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Oops, forgot to check their general activity level; I've now asked at User talk:Ucucha#duplinks. - Evad37 [talk] 03:12, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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