User talk:TheVirginiaHistorian

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A history of the valley of Virginia,
(1833) Samuel Kercheval; Charles James Faulkner; John J. Jacob -- Gwillhickers (talk) 05:10, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 09:24, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Publicizing an RfC[edit]

Hi TheVirginiaHistorian. I saw various posts (this, this, this and this) that you made about the RfC at WT:NFCC#RfC for NFCC#8 exemptions for currency and USPS stamps. I understand that you are just trying to spread the word and get more people involved in the discussion, but you should be careful with WP:CANVAS. You should probably just keep things simple and try not to add any your thoughts or interpretations on how the discussion has progressed and which side is in the majority since that might be seen by some as inappropriate. Best thing is to simply post a link along the lines of Template:Please see without going into too much detail. You might also want to consider posting something at the RfC itself to let others now who you have notified and how you notified them, just to avoid any misunderstandings, before someone else beats you to the punch with a claim of canvassing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:39, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for the introduction to Template:Please see. As I have had no interactions with editors at Wikiprojects at Numismatics, Graphic design, Visual arts and Video games notification there should not be a problem. My interactions with editors at Wikiprojects Philately have generally conformed with opponents of the proposal such as Masem, so notifying them cannot be construed as canvassing for support, rather notifying is in the interest of broadening the discussion. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 05:06, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Just to clarify, notifying others is not really the problem, but the way you notified them might be seen as one. If you simply posted something such as "There's a discussion at XXXXX regarding YYYYY. All interested editors are welcomed to comment" then nobody could mistake that for canvassing; however, your "notification" also includes statements such as "While a majority of one is found in earlier discussions ...." and "Support would ...." which are things which may not be seen as exactly neutral by those who feel differently about this issue. If you click on your Watchlist and look at the very top, you'll find two very neutral (bland) examples of RfC notifications which are only a single simple sentences with a link to the RfC. That's pretty much all that is needed with this kind of thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:03, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the follow up. At each Wikiproject, under the header "RfC", I used

Discussion at Wikipedia talk: Non-free content#RfC for NFCC#8 exemptions for currency and USPS stamps[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk: Non-free content#RfC for NFCC#8 exemptions for currency and USPS stamps. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 06:35, 2 August 2016 (UTC).

Just for future reference, the "Please see" template will automatically add a section heading beginning with "Discussion at..." followed by a link to Wikipage you added as a parameter ( i.e., the relevant discussion) as you can see above, so there's no real need to manually add one. In fact, it might be a bit confusing to so so. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

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re: Wheeling convention speeches[edit]

Hello. The only thing I can think of, aside from reading back issued of the Wheeling Daily Intelligencer on the Chronicling America website, is the Debates and Proceedings of the First Constitutional Convention, which has been put online by the WV Archives. The most interesting sections are the early months of the convention, the later debates are about apportionment, voting districts, etc, and mostly technical politics. You can find the debates at this link. [1]. Dubyavee (talk) 05:54, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Seems there's no short cut like that I used for the 1788 Ratification (Federal) Convention, Pauline Maier's Ratification: the people debate the Constitution. Thanks for the link. I wonder if an editor would look at the primary documentation and claim original research. I hope not; it seems to me that someone with a reasonable interest in the subject would want to know what some of them actually said to one another about Union v. secession, status quo or partition into another state. What Conventions generally accomplished as an outcome is covered in the article Constitution of Virginia, though all subsections do not address the franchise and apportionment which is my particular interest as they are the bellwethers of democracy, --- that in turn leads me to desire equal apportioned expression of the vote in districts for the state legislature, Congress and the Electoral College such as Virginia, Kentucky, North Carolina and Maryland once had, or the District Plan now in force in Maine and Nebraska. Virginia's 3d and 4th Congressional Districts were again readjusted by federal courts as recently as last year. Seems that apportionment is a subject that we have a very difficult time getting right, regardless of political party in power. The League of Women Voters has a redistricting reform proposal which promises to result in contested elections with increase turnout based on results in other states, but I digress from the Wikipedia. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 09:11, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
wow. great good accounts of speeches at Proceedings of the Second Wheeling Convention. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 11:30, 24 September 2016 (UTC)