User talk:The Anome

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Sorry for not having sources[edit]

Sorry for my reccent on ebola that did not have any sources, but I fixed it now and it has the proper citations. I uploaded it to wikipedia again with the corrections. Thanks for helping me edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

an old ghost from 2005[edit]

Hi, you look like you should be very proud of your work on Wikipedia. In 2005, we warred on some edits I had made. I just wanted to say I'm sorry, and I majored in sociology. Your screenname comes from Emile Durkheim, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smkatz (talkcontribs) 16:13, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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Page move[edit]

You have just moved a page to Charitable dispensaries in Manchester. That might be a bit unfortunate because they are rarely referred to as charitable dispensaries and in fact generally were subscription-based. Many became provident dispensaries and some, such as that at Ancoats, became hospitals. I've got a lot more to add to that and related articles but wonder if it might be best to stick to the original title. The period when these thing were formed is generally referred to as the "dispensary movement". - Sitush (talk) 14:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. You're right, Charitable dispensaries in Manchester is wrong for this. I've renamed the article to Dispensary movement in Manchester, which I hope is clearer than "dispensaries in Manchester", which might be taken as referring to present-day hospital dispensaries. -- The Anome (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Yup, that makes sense. Thanks. I'll try to catch up with the writing soon - I've become a bit burned out (singed?) with events elsewhere. - Sitush (talk) 16:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

"FOO First Nation" item should not have "coord missing" added[edit]

I just reversed the addition of coord-missing to "Saddle Lake Cree Nation", which is not a place, it is a government. Individual reserves and communities of this government will have coords, but putting coords on government pages is not wanted or needed. I don't know how many such items you've added this to, if you did it on a global setting across certain categories, please reverse it so I and other's don't have to manually.Skookum1 (talk) 01:59, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi -- thanks for spotting that and fixing it. The bot uses a variety of filters that inspect article content and categories to try to stop errors like this from happening: I'll take a look to see how this one slipped through. -- The Anome (talk) 09:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
OK, I've found why the bot tagged the article as a place: it was categorized as if it as was an article about a specific community, with no category that was sufficient to tell the bot that it was about a First Nation people, not a specific place. I've changed the category to reflect the fact that this is an article about a people, not a place. -- The Anome (talk) 09:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
This is a belated reply a year later, as I had not had your talkpage watchlisted...and I had various crises going on in real life last August, come to think of it.... one of the issues here is that a large number of FN/NA articles on bands are often written and categorized as though the governments are the same things as t he places; that's mostly been resolved in BC and NS and certain other provinces, and slow progress is being made in the Prairies and Ontario etc...what I've been doing is making any reserve redirects carry the geographic-type Indian reserves category, and taking them off government pages at the same time; many bands have more than one reserve, often discontiguous and widely spread here and there around the would be possible to give coords for the bands' offices but that would take some OR, and generally addresses are removed from articles as "not a directory" and it would be OR/SYNTH to determine the latlongs by the street addresses; many are also PO boxes in towns distant from the reserve communities....Skookum1 (talk) 02:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Images missing by place[edit]


It strikes me that we could reuse the logic you used in applying {{Coord missing}}, and add articles with coordinates, but no image, to a series of Category: Articles without images in [foo place]. People visiting or living in a county or city could then look at the local category to see what images are needed nearby. Someone could write an app for mobile users to do the same, based no the coordinates themselves and Wikipedia's "nearby" function. Would you be interested in that? I'll assist with grunt work. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I would. The coord tagging has got a bit dull lately as the bot is running out of low-hanging fruit to tag, and I'm looking for more challenges. Certainly, almost anywhere coord-worthy is also image-worthy, with some obvious exceptions (historical events, subterranean geological features and crash sites come to mind, for example. Rather than create a new in-article template, I think we should use the existing {{image requested}} mechanism on talk pages to do this. There's a fair bit of infrastructure to create to make this happen: I will need to create:
  • a classification of which types of articles are clearly image-worthy, using a whitelist, as opposed to a blacklist, approach
  • a reliable way of detecting pages that are missing pictures (as opposed to maps, or icons such as flagicons or stub notice icons)
  • a way of detecting the correct place to put an {{image requested}} tag on a talk page
  • a way of working out what "in" parameter I should be using in the tag to bring it to the attention of relevant WikiProjects
There are also other projects we can liase with, to make it, for example, easier for volunteers to find nearby sites to photograph or hunt down public domain images.
I'll think about this some more, then get back to you.
-- The Anome (talk) 14:38, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
OK, that all sounds good. Please ping me when you're ready to move. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:39, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Stalking you ;-) I saw User:The Anome/types of features eligible for photographs. How can I help? Why wouldn't it be easier to come up with a list of "things with coordinates not eligible for photographs"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Given the number of articles that are eligible for images, I'd much rather take the cautious approach than be on the receiving end of hundreds of complaints for mis-tagging. Hence the use of a large whitelist of known good features, instead of a blacklist.
For an example of other kinds of things that need to be taken into account, see the Edray, West Virginia article that I found at random by clicking "random article" a few times until I found an eligible article. By looking at the output of,_West_Virginia&action=render , you can see that it contains four images: two maps, a flag, and a dot. We need to be able to ascertain that none of these is a photograph before we decide to request one for the article. Now, we can try to do this by a number of different methods: analyzing the wikitext and template parameters, analyzing the HTML, looking at categories, looking at filenames, or by looking at the images themselves. In this case, for example, file analysis would show that two of the images are too small to be photos, and the other two are low-colour PNG images. However, just looking at the filenames of all four images in this particular would show them to be derived from original SVG images, making it unnecessary to look at the images at all. But that might not be true of other images; for example, some article might have a full colour image saved as a PNG or a GIF, and the only way to detect that would be to analyze its colour histogram. Or another article might use an image that is a full-colour JPEG photograph, but only use it as a tiny icon. Or an SVG might embed a bitmap image of a photograph. And so on... -- The Anome (talk) 10:49, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
After some more thought, I think I can work my way through much of this entirely from dumps, by combining information from the template links, image links, external links and category links tables to generate a shortlist of pages for more detailed inspection. Once that's done, I can then work on devising a set of more detailed checks to be performed on-line before making the final decision of whether to add a photo request template, what the content of that template should be, and where on the talk page to insert it. -- The Anome (talk) 12:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Typically, an {{image requested}} would go just below the WikiProject banners, but outside the {{WPB}}{{WPBS}}, if present. Some banners provide parameters for the same purpose; for example, {{WikiProject Trains}} has |imageneeded= and |Imagedetails=, as seen at Talk:Brookfield (Cumbria) railway station. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes. I think the best way to do this is to add {{image requested}} tags to articles first, then, with that work done, optimize later by adding project-specific parameters to WikiProject templates. Finding out what is and isn't a WikiProject banner, and dealing with the various grouping templates, is a subproject in itself.-- The Anome (talk) 17:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Further to my comment above: I've remembered that there are some WikiProject banners where there is a |photo= parameter which doesn't work as you might expect (yes doesn't mean "yes, an image is needed"). See for example {{WikiProject Derbyshire}} where we find that this parameter may be set to |photo=yes if at least one photograph is included in this article; set |photo=na if this article does not require a photograph; set |photo=needs if this article needs at least one photograph to be added. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:29, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough; is it OK to edit your whitelist, or would your prefer suggestions elsewhere? Or should I go away and stop bugging you? ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:26, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
No, all suggestions are welcome! I've created a "put suggestions here" subheading on that page to put them under. Entries should be in the same format as the existing entries: words or phrases, exactly as used in existing article categories (and therefore typically plural), all lowercased, and with spaces replaced by underscores. -- The Anome (talk) 17:04, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you - added some, more later. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:49, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

@Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): made a suggestion:

You could check Wikidata for items that have a geocoordinate but no picture associated with them and generate your list. Then encourage building more templates that automatically use the picture if set. See for example.

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I've removed football clubs and organizations from your list: they are sufficiently blurry entities that they do not always have something that can be photographed. When they have identifiable headquarters buildings or home stadiums, with their own articles, those can have photographs added. I'm aware this will lose some opportunities to add photos: but I'm happier with having some false negatives, in order to prevent false positives which might cause more harm than good. You other suggestions are great, though -- please keep them coming. -- The Anome (talk) 13:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I've also removed "schlosses" from the list. "Schloss" is just the German word for "castle/palace", and these are all, as far as I can see, listed under existing "castle/palace" categories such as Category:Castles in Germany. Category:Palaces in Germany. Category:Castles in Austria and Category:Palaces in Austria. -- The Anome (talk) 14:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I see you points - sometimes reluctantly - with all those except football clubs, since they all have a strip which can be photographed; as can the games they play, and usually their home grounds. I can't see a false positive in such cases, let alone a harmful one. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I take your point. You're quite right: there are categories of things which are photographable, but not geocodeable, and things like chain restuarants (for which a photo of a typical storefront might be appropriate) and football clubs might be among them. Let me think about it some more. -- The Anome (talk) 14:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Football teams (generally) are geo-locatable; I added coordinates to Old Oscott FC yesterday. But if we're tagging things with coordinates only, that's not an issue, surely? Or were you thinking of tagging things with "needing photo and needing coordinates"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:35, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm thinking of things that need photos but cannot be assigned coordinates. For example, a photo of the outside of a Pizza Hut branch would be quite appropriate for the Pizza Hut article, even though it's impossible to assign a single location to that organization; any reasonably typical example of their many branches would do. -- The Anome (talk) 18:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


Perhaps we need to revise our categories, and split those for "shopping chains" and "shop premises", or some such? Then again, if the article has coordinates, is it likely to be a chain?Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Ideally, yes. Unfortunately, no-one has cared to make the distinction sufficiently often enough, and I've had real trouble creating sufficiently accurate heuristics to tell the two apart by inspecting other categories. So I'm going to err on the side of caution for these for now. We can always re-visit these later, if needed.
Also, thanks for spotting "cultural_sites". This has led me to find "historic_sites" as another marker of geocodable articles, and I've also back-ported this into the main bot to find new candidates for {{coord missing}}. -- The Anome (talk) 14:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, I tried :-( Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


I now have a list of 1,004,783 articles which (a) contain valid {{coord}} or {{coord missing}} tags, directly or indirectly, and (b) do not have names that imply they are list articles. The next step is to use the category list to filter out types of articles for which there is nothing relevant to photograph (historical events, defunct buildings, electoral districts, etc. etc.). Then after that I can start working on how to automatically, and reliably, tell the difference between articles with and without pictures. More in a couple of days. -- The Anome (talk) 12:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

People can still add photographs of defunct buildings - they may be able to source them from their own or family archives, or talking to a GLAM, or searching the web for something freely licensed or out of copyright (e.g. St Alkmund's Church, Derby). Historic events might have a picture of the site, or a memorial, or a related object in a museum (a military uniform, say) or an artwork depicting the events (e.g. Peterloo Massacre). Electoral districts can benefit from a picture of a civic building, local view or even a polling station (e.g. Sutton Trinity (ward)). Thank you again for doing this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I'm already thinking about it. See User:The Anome/geolocatable articles that are candidates for images, for some thoughts based on inspecting a random samples of 100 test pages, as well as some curious outliers found by bot-grepping the rendered HTML of some articles from a larger random sample of ~500 articles. -- The Anome (talk) 00:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I doubt you meant to do this ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:23, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
No, I certainly didn't -- no idea how your comment got deleted, I didn't spot any edit conflict when I made my edit. I've restored it below: -- The Anome (talk) 06:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Progress indeed. I don't see why we'd exclude list articles - they can still benefit from having an image or two. Regarding 101 Collins Street, I think you can ignore any images which are in navbox templates. Per Radolfzell, you an ignore any image which is in an mbox. I'd include non-terrestrial objects, as NASA may well have PD images. Per my comments above, please do not have an exclusion date for disestablished venues. Apologies if I'm teaching you to suck eggs. If you need to run a trail on a geographic subset (and don't want to give away your location), please use West Midlands/ Warwickshire/ Staffordshire/ Worcestershire/ Shropshire, as that's my locality. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:52, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. You're exactly right about the navbox images, and I've taken that on board. I'm still thinking about your other two points as part of investigating the other special cases. -- The Anome (talk) 09:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

More progress[edit]

I've now got a basic article-inspector working. Using some fairly cautious rules, I'm currently finding about 50% -- around 500,000 -- of the articles on my first list appear to lack photographs. There are still a quite a few false negatives, but I haven't yet come across any false positives so far. -- The Anome (talk) 00:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

After filtering down to only articles with a clearly identifiable country associated with them by Wikipedia category analysis so that they can each be unambiguously assigned to a Wikiproject, I'm now down to around 860k articles in my shortlist. I've also tweaked the article scanner a bit more, to be a bit more lenient in some cases where evidence from several different image tag parameters can be combined to rule out an image being a photo. Running the article scanner on a sample of those again suggests that roughly half -- about 430k -- articles are candidiates for photo requests. -- The Anome (talk) 12:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

More progress: most of the false positives are being generated by a few special cases, principally:

  • images in navboxes -- solution: remove these entirely at the HTML parsing phase Yes check.svg Done
  • tweak the logic for detecting stub icons to be a little bit more forgiving for some cases.Yes check.svg Done
  • images like flags, locator maps and coats of arms in infoboxes -- solution: itemizing the commonest infobox/parameter combinations which generate these, find these by parsing the wikitext, and remove the generated images from the list of images in the page before doing the rest of the analysis Yes check.svg Done
  • remove PNG/GIF images within collapsed boxes -- under consideration

-- The Anome (talk) 19:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The hit rate for finding articles which are eligible for images is now around 60% with the new tweaks, up from 50% before. I have yet to see any false positives. This gives 860k x 60% = approx 510k articles eligible to be tagged, and thus slightly more than offsets the filtering by country assignment. I'm sure there are still some false negatives, but we are probably near the point of diminishing returns in terms what can be done without starting doing image processing analysis on included images.

Next step: more hand checking for false positives, and any remaining low-hanging fruit on false negatives. -- The Anome (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The HTML and wikitext analysis stuff is now finished: the only remaining errors I can find so far from reviewing its results are a few remaining false negatives caused by diagrams and maps included as images that would require image content analysis to distinguish from photographs, something which at the moment just isn't worth developing and debugging to get a couple percent higher hit rate. Enough information will be present in the bot's logs to revisit these pages later, if so desired. -- The Anome (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

This all sounds good - so what next? Apply for permission? Create some categories? Write some documentation? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm now working on the final code to filter the articles by type -- building, populated place, etc. -- and to then find the right place in the talk page to add the {{reqphoto}} tag. Then it will be time to request permission from the bot managers to do a test run of say, 100 articles to start with: then 1000, then 10,000, then finally the whole 500,000. I don't plan to integrate the tagging into the parameters of project infoboxes just yet: I see that, and the subcategorization of place tags into subnational entities, as being a job for another bot pass later on. -- The Anome (talk) 21:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
This is continuing. Converting the various other categories into reqphoto categories alas requires manual construction of a mapping between the two. -- The Anome (talk) 12:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
How're things going? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
*ahem* ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Any chance of an update, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Maintenance template dating issue[edit]

Please see this; my error, compounded by your bot. Is that something you can check for? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Invention[edit]

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Hello, The Anome.

You are invited to join WikiProject Invention, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of inventions and invention-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


Brilliant Idea Barnstar Hires.png What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Don't know what prompted the creation of Catacomb saints, but what a great idea! I'll see what I can add to it - I seem to recall a particularly good story about such a "relic" being toured through nothern France during the 30 Years' War to boost morale among Catholic troops. Anyway, keep up the good work! Stalwart111 11:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Ha ha, mutual barnstars! Thanks! I thought it might make for a good DYK candidate but couldn't think of a hook. Thoughts? Stalwart111 13:39, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I've acknowledged it needs a better hook but I've nominated it at Template:Did you know nominations/Catacomb saints anyway. Stalwart111 06:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Excellent. -- The Anome (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

re: Is there a scientific definition of "shake well"?[edit]

I was wasn't as careful about the way I phrased that sentence as I thought. So on second reading I did modify it here specifying shaking " ...the container". I was trying to avoid this. Tsk Tsk! Face-wink.svg - 220 of Borg 16:50, 13 September 2013 (UTC).

DYK for Catacomb saints[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Teahouse Invitation[edit]

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Hello! The Anome, you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the Teahouse. The Teahouse is an awesome place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us!

Tariqmudallal (talk) 15:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


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missing coordinates and images
Thank you,second-wave Wikipedian, for quality articles such as Catacomb saints, for knowing how little we know on nouns and villages in Afghanistan, for "looking" for missing coordinates and images, for "I take your point. You're quite right", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 09:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
A year ago, you were the 606th recipient of my 'PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

A question about Amplituhedron[edit]

Hey bro. If you have any interest in the matter or know any Wikipedian who could help out, a question about Amplituhedron here (

Thanks - (talk) 20:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

India coords[edit]

Hi. I know it's been a long time, but I thought I'd mention it in case it might be a bigger problem...

With this edit, The Anomebot2 added coords to Bilaspur district, Himachal Pradesh. Unfortunately, there is also a Bilaspur district, Chhattisgarh and it is the co-ordinates for that district that were added instead. I don't know what the source data looked like, but if it did not include the adm1 division in which an adm2 is supposed to lie, it would be good to look for possible dups like this. There is at least one more such duplicate district (Hamirpur district), but it did not get the wrong coords (diff times, sources, etc. though). Anyway, FYI. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. This shouldn't happen: I'll take a look at the data and see if there's a way that this particular case could have been detected and prevented. Of course, if the source data is wrong, the GIGO principle applies and all bets are off. -- The Anome (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

AfD closure[edit]

Regarding this - AfD closure templates are, in fact, subst'd; your un-subst-ing it broke the page in a way that meant the system thought it was a still-active AfD. I've reclosed it, but please bear that in mind in the future, thanks. - The Bushranger One ping only 10:55, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the article Sexual desire[edit]

Hello, i was reading the article Sexual desire of which you are a contributor,Sir..Under the para PHYSICAL FACTORS AFFECTING SEXUAL DESIRE i was expecting the find something about the 'time that has passed from the previous ejaculation in men'(being the reason that during the short term abstinence in sexually active men, they feel a high urge to indulge in sexual activities) affects their sexual desire..but there is no mention of the specific thing in the article..i have been anxious about this as i have to continue my research project on libido.. Sir, can you please help me find out the reason for why could i not find this fact here..many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed beerman (talkcontribs) 08:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

It's a very good question, but one I'm not qualified to answer. Have you considered asking on the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science? The editors there may be able to help you better than I can. -- The Anome (talk) 10:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
That time is called a Refractory period (sex).
VerdanaBøld 23:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdana Bold (talkcontribs)


Could you tack a {{resolved}} or whatever it is to WP:ANI#Disruptive IP range please? Chris is trying to start shit up with me again.—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:24, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for unblocking the range while this gets sorted out. I think the editor is well-meaning, but unaware of the situation. Also, I am not "trying to start shit up" as Ryulong claims, but he did make a report that the editor was a vandal and no action was taken, and that was only yesterday.[1] I'm not sure what the issue is but the editor from the Philippines doesn't seem to be bad faith and the edits throughout the history seem to be correct, locally speaking - because they are not released in North America. Dare I say it... but throughout the history I see lots of useful information being removed and it is more than just the names. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 20:46, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
I never said that they were being done in bad faith. The only thing this editor has done is change spellings and add the word "the" before every single robot's name. I have made multiple requests for him to stop changing the spellings and stop adding the word "the" before every robot's name but he never responds because he just switches IPs again. I thought that maybe I could get another respite but no. Now I have to deal with this shit again today. And you know you are trying to start shit up, Chris, because now I can't do anything on WP:ANI without you chiming in against me.—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
You need to stop being dramatic, Ryulong. I mentioned your interaction with the user at User_talk:Ryulong#Rollback_and_BITE at 23:42, 26 October 2013. You made the ANI report at 09:33, 27 October 2013. My concern about your AIV post with the editor preceded your ANI report. It appears that because your AIV did not lead to a block so you made one at ANI. I'm not "starting shit", but I believe it is reasonable to be concerned and detail what I stated at your talk page. Let's not forget that some usage of English is also different for special cases the usage is more or less correct depending the reading.[2] As the use of definite article or its omission is inconsistent, but if it is such a problem, you know where requests for page protection is. It will at least require registration and likely a clear direction to talk pages if they lack competence. There are better ways to go about what you did without resorting to labeling their edits as "vandalism". Now I believe we have disturbed The Anome's talk page quite enough. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 01:46, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The fact AIV did not lead to the block is irrelevant. I have been dealing with this problematic editor for longer than you and I have been in dispute, and the last time I went to request protection they put the page on pending revisions which honestly does jack shit other than prevent the edit from being made live, which isn't the problem here. Also, when dealing with proper nouns for which there are no other such entities, the definite article seems redundant.—Ryulong (琉竜) 02:39, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
As far as I can see, this is a content dispute with a side order of non-communication, and not a matter for AN/I. Both Ryulong and the IP editor appear to be acting in good faith in the belief that the edits they are making are improving the article, and both of them have some justification for their point of view, as the two issues here, Layda vs. Rayda, and definite article vs. no definite article, are arguable either way. I agree with the posters at AN/I who suggested the use of edit summaries and inline comments to try to establish communication with the other editor. Give it a try, and come back if there's no resolution after a month or so. -- The Anome (talk) 10:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Last I checked, dealing with non-responsive editors was exactly a matter for WP:ANI.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:06, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi. Could you look at this case in WP:AN/I please? Thanks is advance, Raamin (talk) 03:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I've blocked the IP for one month, and notified them of the AN/I discussion. By the way, I think I should mention that when you mention another user of WP:AN/I, you're supposed to notify them that you're doing so. It's easy to do: you can put {{subst:ANI-notice}} on their talk page to do so, and it will auto-expand into a message.-- The Anome (talk) 10:27, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi The Anome. I am Go Phightins!, and am currently writing a piece for The Signpost on the Rand Paul/Gattaca debacle, which I am sure you have heard about. In 2002, you created the page on Gattaca, so I thought I would offer you the chance to comment for the story ... any comment you'd like to make on either the article, the alleged plagiarism, or plagiarizing Wikipedia in general? Up to you - thanks! Go Phightins! 19:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh, good grief. I hadn't heard about this until now. Thanks for letting me know. I'll go take a look. -- The Anome (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks; if you could let me know in the next few hours if you wish to comment, that would be terrific. Go Phightins! 23:09, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry -- I haven't really got anything to say on the subject. -- The Anome (talk) 20:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
OK, thanks anyway! Go Phightins! 03:22, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Barnstar of Humour Hires.png The Barnstar of Good Humor
For creating Gattaca yet not making a big deal of it. Bearian (talk) 16:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

coord-missing oddity[edit]

This edit flagged a North American organization for coordinates in Israel. DMacks (talk) 15:13, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

It's because the article was listed in Category:High schools in Israel, and the bot interpreted it as being just that, and thus a locatable place in Israel. -- The Anome (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Ah, that makes sense actually. Thanks for the quick diagnosis! DMacks (talk) 16:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Memory erasure[edit]

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Probably student essay that would require complete rewrite to be encyclopedic. One reference is link dead and the other two are primary sources. Most of the article is entirely unsupported by the references. Not even close to Wikipedia:MEDRS.

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Go for it. The topic deserves an article, but it's not this, which verges too near to being a medical article without sufficient rigor. There is certainly an article about memory erasure as a fictional trope to be had here, but otherwise, it needs rewriting from scratch to conform with WP:MEDRS, if it is to be taken seriously as a sci/med article. -- The Anome (talk) 23:46, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Coords not needed[edit]

Hi, this is a railway service, running along a route which is over fifty miles long. I don't think that coordinates are appropriate. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

N = 4 supersymmetric Yang–Mills theory[edit]

Hi anonymous, do you by any chance remember if the page 6D (2,0) superconformal theories existed when you inserted the link in the N = 4 supersymmetric Yang–Mills theory article (23 sept 2013)? I'm asking because I remember seeing a lot of links to missing articles lately (especially physics and mathematics) and I am curious whether a cleanup is going on or those pages never existed. Thanks for your help! talk Alma 11:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

As far as I recall, it didn't exist at the time I made that link. I've checked the revision history, and it never seems to have existed previously, either. Having said which, WP:REDLINKs are good: there's no reason why it should not be created, either now or in the future.-- The Anome (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Great, thanks! That settles it. Wish you merry holidays! Alma (talk) 12:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

BDSM History[edit]

The Anome - I have restored the historical information from the academic publication 'The History & Arts of the Dominatrix'. I have in addition added the original source material cited by its author, which is verifiable. You may be correct that the book may be self-published in its first edition form - I am unable to verify this either way, and the second edition is currently in press by University of Oxford Press. However certainly the author is a UCL academic on staff, and has published anonymously from what I can tell.

One of the problems specific to the BDSM page, is that due to the nature of the subject of BDSM, many BDSM titles are self-published: - Jay Wiseman's books (self-published under Greenery Press) - Lady Green / Janet Hardy (self-published with partner Jay Wiseman of Greenery Press) - Dr Gloria Brame's books are all self-published. (She has a PhD and is a qualified sexologist however) - Philip Miller & Molly Devon's book is self-published (under Mystic Rose Books) etc (I could list numerous titles, all the Lulu Books listed on the page, etc)

I have worked on Wikipedia's Dominatrix page for years, adding academic references from academic journals, from sociological papers, from new books as they've been published, including more recently Danielle Lindemann's book which was a sociological study book "Dominatrix: Gender, Eroticism and Control in the Dungeon".

I am open-minded to changes, to enhancing neutrality, promoting balance, etc on Wikipedia articles.

However I do not think the removal of helpful historical information, carefully cited with academic references which are independently verifiable, is appropriate. If there are amendments and edits to be made - I would expect those to be made in pieces as appropriate.

I hope that by adding the original source material references, this may have aided the solution. I can remove all reference to Nomis's book entirely, and leave only her original sources cited (and verifiable), however it would seem inappropriate to steal all her research for use on Wikipedia and not acknowledge her as having been the one who undertook all the hard work and research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scholarlyfemme (talkcontribs) 00:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Scholarlyfemme — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scholarlyfemme (talkcontribs) 00:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for your comments. Yes, you are right in saying that many well-known BDSM sources are self-published. However, they are well-known sources that have been extensively cited by other writers. This book has as yet not become part of the body of well-known literature on the subject, and its very recent publication and the deliberate anonymity of its author do not help increase its credibility. In particular, the concept of the "seven realm arts", which I cannot find a reference for anywhere else in the literature, appears to be sufficiently novel that it looks likely to be covered by Wikipedia:No original research. Given this, I'd suggest that, for the moment, until the book becomes established as a cited source in the literature, citing the sources used by the book, rather than the book itself, is probably the best way to go.
I'm sorry if this sounds really negative, since the book sounds really promising, and I look forward to reading it when it becomes generally available. -- The Anome (talk) 09:57, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of List of muscles of the human body/version 2[edit]

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You seem to have overlooked my request for an update, above. I understand that you're busy, but if you don't intend to continue the project, please let me know so I can ask for other assistance. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- sorry about that -- I will get back to that project soon, and will message you when that happens. Happy new year, -- The Anome (talk) 15:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mildred Roper[edit]

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I've reverted Anomebot2's edit to Derg. It was a government, not a place. That said, I'm not sure the article belongs in the Former countries in Africa, States and territories established in 1974, or States and territories disestablished in 1987 categories (which may be how the 'bot found it). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:00, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

You are quite correct: yes, that's how the bot found it, and no, governments shouldn't get that tag, only the geographic entities ruled by those governments. I've been reviewing the bot's edits and fixing these by hand where I see them (see my edit history for some examples), but I missed this one, for which apologies. -- The Anome (talk) 01:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
The categories seem embedded within {{Infobox former country}}, FWIW. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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Geo-coordinates of Pavillon de Paris[edit]

Hi! Really glad someone finally mapped the location of the old Pavillon de Paris. Can I ask how you know the correct location? There is a sentence in the article that says, "In 1980, the Pavillon de Paris was closed, and for the next 3 years, most touring rock bands appeared at the Hippodrome de Pantin in the nearby Parc de la Villette. In 1983, the Hippodrome was itself replaced by Le Zénith de Paris." This suggests that Le Zénith and the Hippodrome are/were at the same location, whereas the Pavillon, though nearby, was somewhere else. Yet your provided coordinates located the Pavillon very proximate to the Zénith. Is that because the Pavillon site was adjacent to the Zénith/Hippodrome site, or are you suggesting that the Pavillon site is the current site of the Zénith, and that the Hippodrome was somewhere else nearby? Would love to hear all you know on this topic! Thnaks again!

User talk:Jayintheusa —Preceding undated comment added 22:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I'm afraid I don't know where the coordinates came from in detail, but I can tell you how to find the user who does. My bot copied the coordinates from the German-language Wikipedia. This is documented in the body of the tag as "source:kolossus-dewiki", where "Kolossus" is a (misspelled) reference to de:Benutzer:Kolossos, a user who compiles coordinates from Wikipedia dumps into a database which can be found here, and "dewiki" is the German-language Wikipedia. However, if you look at the edit hostory of the German-language article de:Pavillon de Paris, you should be able to find the edit, and hence the user, that added the coordinates there. -- The Anome (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow! Thank you for your fast and detailed response! I'll take a look, as you suggest! Thanks again!

User talk:Jayintheusa —Preceding undated comment added 22:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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A bot proposal of yours at Wikivoyage[edit]

Hi. I don't know whether you are keeping an eye on things at Wikivoyage. In case you aren't, just letting you know that I have supported your Wikivoyage:Script nominations#Using the bot to help crowdsource links to Wikipedia articles proposal and posed a couple of questions there. cheers. Nurg (talk) 08:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Not in Front of the Children[edit]

This book was previously mentioned at your user talk page, by RekishiEJ.

I've gone ahead and created the article, at Not in Front of the Children: "Indecency," Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth.

It's still very much a work in progress, as I'm quite in the middle of ongoing research for additional secondary sources.


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Missing photos by coordinates[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:BOTREQ#Needed photos bot. I've referred there, to our discussions above. What news? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi: the project's on hold while I'm working on other things, and puzzling out how to reliably edit talk page headers to add the {{reqphoto}} tags without corrupting the rest of the talk page header. I will get back to it eventually. -- The Anome (talk) 11:11, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. Meanwhile User:Magnus Manske is working on something similar for Wikidata; here's the map for Sweden: Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:09, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Coordinates of paintings[edit]

As you are doubtless aware, these are almost always unnecessary (museums' coordinates are given in the articles on the museums). I don't know why The Anomebot2 is picking up articles in Category:Collection of the Tate galleries to add {{coord missing}} to, but you may want to instruct it to ignore that particular category. Deor (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting this. It's the comniation of the word "galleries" at the end of the category name, and that category's nested inclusion in other categories that refer to geolocatable things, that triggers this behavior, and then none of the usual heuristics catches the error. I'll add a couple of extra heuristics to catch this and similar cases. -- The Anome (talk) 11:08, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of CCTV (disambiguation) for deletion[edit]

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Blocking usernames listed in Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention/Bot[edit]

Any admin can do it -- and we could do with some extra help. There are a few templates specifically created for substing to inform blocked users: see {{usernameblock}}, {{usernamehardblocked}}, {{softerblock}} and {{vaublock}} for the most commonly used. Also, if a name is clearly a false positive and thus not going to be a problem, you can just remove it from the list without any need to discuss it with other users. -- The Anome (talk) 22:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks. But please, what is the correct procedure and what do I put or do where, e.g. if I come across a new username, say User:Zxcvbnmbot ? User:DeltaQuadBot would pick up the "-bot" suffix and complain, but what should I do then? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:18, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Bit rot (disambiguation)[edit]

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Bit rot/data decay/data degredation/etc.[edit]

Did you seek consensus somewhere before making these page moves? I think they were rather ill-advised and should be reverted, but the whole situation is a complex can of worms, and I don't trust my opinion to reflect that of any consensus. But there should have been discussion before the moves. I can't find it. What happened? jhawkinson (talk) 15:37, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

I think this is a case where the usage is so well established that the content of the articles was obviously wrong. So I decided to be WP:BOLD, and just clean up the whole thing. Feel free to revert my changes if you like, but I think the Jargon File is a more than adequate source for original, and still correct, usage. -- The Anome (talk) 20:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


I don't think this should remain blocked indefinitely, as I don't think a first-time offense is a valid reason for an indef block there.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:41, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

You're right -- I've replaced the block with a one year block, and unblocked account creation from that range. -- The Anome (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that[edit]

[3] ... didn't even realize I had removed your comment, apologies. Lesion 21:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


How would you feel about unblocking this user and running a WP:RFCN instead? Yunshui  08:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that; very gracious of you. Yunshui  11:47, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Second-wave Wikipedian?[edit]

We've been scratching our heads about this now for the last 5 minutes. What does this thing mean? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah -- that's quite out of date now. "Second wave", in the sense of not being part of the "first wave" of Wikipedians who joined in the first few weeks. -- The Anome (talk) 12:05, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

File:TrafficRanktoJune2004.png needs authorship information[edit]

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Yes check.svg Done -- The Anome (talk) 14:19, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

History of measurement systems in India[edit]

You've edited this article. There's quite a bit here based on work by Shigeo Iwata. I'm concerned about using him as he also wrote in [4] which says "Each of the several bone pieces of 28,000 years ago that were discovered in Shiyu site in China bears a number of lines. Each of these lines denoting a number suggests that the people used to record 20 or more numbers. The 22,430-year-old bone tubes excavated at the Zhoukoudian site in the southwest of Beijing bear symbols that have been deciphered as representing 3,5, 10, and 13. The shape of the symbol for 10 leads us to believe that its creators employed the decimal system. Presumably, the Mongoloid completed the decimal system 50,000 years ago when they branched into East Asia, both North and South America, and the Pacific islands. The Chinese people recorded numbers as large as 30,000 in the period 3.300 years ago." This bit about the decimal system is nonsense as is the bit about Mongoloides up to 70,000 years ago, which he also said. And so far I haven't found a source for his Chinese symbols, but that's a minor issue. Dougweller (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Bots can't spell[edit]

The Anomebot2 is adding the type "forrest" to some of the {{coord}} templates it's inserting in articles. Presumably, its brain needs tweaking somehow. Deor (talk) 10:36, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It was copying that mistake verbatim from the eswiki entries it was using as source. When I ran a script to fix this, I found that you had fixed all of them already: thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 14:18, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
No problem. I just thought that it might be something in the bot itself rather than in what it was copying. Deor (talk) 14:35, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

OER inquiry[edit]

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Edit filter 609[edit]

Thanks for your help with this. It looks like other IP ranges from Rio de Janeiro are also adding these Europa Universalis terms, another editor caught [5]. Can you help edit the filter? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 08:23, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. I've added the enclosing netblock, registered to the Universidade do Estado do Rio de Janeiro, to the filter. -- The Anome (talk) 08:46, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Not surprised to find it's probably students. Dougweller (talk) 14:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Espainiako Erresuma listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Non-default beta[edit]

Our discussion got archived. What do you think about a watchlist notice? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 05:37, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I've replied to you on your talk page. -- The Anome (talk) 12:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I think that rather than waiting for a formal list of what, exactly, to test, we should just ask people to give it a try. Do yout hink that this would work for a watchlist notice?
An appeal from the developers: we've been improving VisualEditor, and we're looking for volunteers to test it. You can opt-in to it via Beta Features
I've added a few links; would it be useful to add a link to Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide, or is it overkill? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:09, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


Er, sorry about that, it didn't occur to remove the templates.Keith-264 (talk) 16:02, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem! Yes, it's a good idea to remove the {{coord missing}} templates when you add coordinates, but it doesn't break anything if you don't: I do a bot run every few months to catch those that don't get removed by geocoders. Bot time is cheap; human effort geocoding things isn't. Thanks for your edits! -- The Anome (talk) 11:36, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I had the idea of using the geodatas from articles on the place, since I couldn't work out how to do them. I was rather smug at the time.;O)Keith-264 (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

EuroFan98 has replaced the deleted content again[edit]

Hi there, I noticed you're the Wikipedian who recently dealt with EuroFan98 and the content the user has on their user page. I thought you'd might want to know s/he has reinstated the content to User:EuroFan98/sandbox, especially when it was established the material was not a draft article and went against WP:NOTWEBHOST. Wes Mᴥuse 21:28, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Stop these things![edit]

Wesley Mouse, a Sandbox is another user's can't be seen by public or by other users. 23:35, 8 June 2014 (CET) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EuroFan98 (talkcontribs)

But it still is against WP:NOTWEBHOST purely for the fact that the content was removed from your main user page for being of content that is not permitted on Wikipedia. You were also told to place it elsewhere, but not on Wikipedia. You ignored what you were told. But if you wish to have the stupidity to risk receiving blocking sanctions for failing to comply with policies, then go ahead. I'm only offering you advice so that you don't get blocked. Wes Mᴥuse 21:47, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Pius Ngandu Nkashama[edit]

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Yes check.svg Done -- The Anome (talk) 10:49, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Complaint moved[edit]

I've moved this complaint from WP:ANI to WP:BON. Issue should be discussed here. Thank you! OccultZone (Talk) 11:25, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Coord for festivals[edit]

Hi, I have spent most of today adding coordinates to various articles in Category:Lithuania articles missing geocoordinate data. Down to a trickle! But I am stumped by Kaunas International Film Festival and similar - it is an event/festival that takes places all over. How would you add coordinates to that? Renata (talk) 02:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Regarding the festival; since it does not take place in a single geographical location, just delete the {{coord missing}} tag from the article, and you're done. The same applies to any other event with multiple locations. The bot does not have a 100% hit rate, and it occasionally makes both false positive and false negative errors. Please let me know if you find any more examples of bad tags, as this helps me add extra rules to the bot to reduce its error rate further. -- The Anome (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Cool, but a question: won't the bot add the missing coord tag on its next run? Renata (talk) 11:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
It shouldn't do that: it remembers which articles it has tagged, and (with a few special-case exceptions) won't re-tag them again in the normal course of editing -- The Anome (talk) 10:41, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit filter 609[edit]

Hi - hate to be a pain but could you add the IP range for, another Rio de Janeiro range? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 13:14, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done -- The Anome (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Belated thanks! Dougweller (talk) 10:56, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-27[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan)[edit]

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Proposed deletion of The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan)[edit]

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Nomination of The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 17:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Nokutela Dube[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 18:32, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-28[edit]

07:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Coordinates for Slut, Munsö[edit]

Hello, I noticed that the coordinates were wildly off. I guess the source, GNS-enwiki, need to be corrected too, where do I find it? --Ainali (talk) 11:53, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- thanks for fixing that. The source "GNS-enwiki" indicates that it was generated one of my scripts which uses a combination of category tree traversal and heuristics to cross-correlate entries in the NGA GNS database with English-language Wikipedia articles. The most likely source of the error is either that the script has chosen the GNS entry for the wrong place, or that the GNS data itself is off. If it's the former, please accept my apologies: the matching algorithm has very few false positives, but there will always be the occasional error; when I find one or one is brought to my attention, I usually try, if possible, to find and fix the root cause of the problem, to prevent the same kind of error from happening again. If the NGA data is at fault, you can contact the NGA here: -- The Anome (talk) 20:07, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Update: NGA GNS has only one place in Sweden called Slut, with details as follows:
Slut   (Approved - N)
Sweden (SW)  
Västerbotten (SW23)  
64° 44' 00" N, 020° 31' 00" E (64.733333, 20.516667)  
populated place (PPL)  
My bot saw one and only one place in Sweden called Slut on both Wikipedia and NGA GNS, both of the same type, and none of the blocking heuristics for false matches applied in this case, so it assumed they were the same. A check for the top-level administrative division would have caught this, but doing that is a work in progress, due to the difficulty in doing this in general across both datasets, not just because of naming differences, but because the NGA data often does not specify a top-level administrative division for many features.
Fortunately this kind of false positive is quite rare. I have been looking into alternative ways of doing enclosing-entity cross-correlation for some time, with the hope of one day doing a cross-correlation of all the geodata in all Wikipedias via Wikidata. -- The Anome (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-29[edit]

07:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Watchlist notice idea[edit]

Do you still think this is a good thing to do?

An appeal from the developers: we've been improving VisualEditor, and we're looking for volunteers to test it. You can opt-in to it via Beta Features

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

It's a great idea! Is there any reason not to go right ahead and make the change today? -- The Anome (talk) 00:34, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Let's do it. Thanks. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
I posted at request about this at MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-details#Request. There has been no response so far. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:18, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-30[edit]

07:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for catching this sockpuppet of User:Trueman31. His hobby is cutting and pasting my user page and talk page. –anemoneprojectors– 14:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-31[edit]

08:09, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


No hits since 28 May. Is it okay if we disable it? Thanks — MusikAnimal talk 16:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

No problem, as far as I'm concerned: you might also want to check in with User: Dougweller, who's been using it to track vandalism. -- The Anome (talk) 15:22, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
No hits but a number of successful attempts to add these videogame concepts. Mainly be one-off accounts (in one case choosing a name very similar to someone else busy editing). Two were IPs, (talk · contribs) and (talk · contribs). These were this month, as were most of the account edits. And I know the copyvio Esdaile stuff is sporadic. Is there a way so it doesn't just focus on IP ranges but on any editor? And if so, "oligarchic republic" should be added. Thanks. And thanks to [[User:The Anome for pinging me. Dougweller (talk) 15:56, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I didn't really want the filter to trigger on every single mention of any of those keywords/key phrases, unless you're happy to deal with a potentially huge amount of false positive matches. If you are, I can simply turn off the IP range filtering and rely just on the keywords, and I expect the filter will get a vast number of hits. If you want me to do this, just let me know. -- The Anome (talk) 16:23, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
A question: are these all edits happening within articles which have infoboxes that have the "government_type" parameter? If so, I could filter on that, which should greatly reduce the number of false positives. -- The Anome (talk) 16:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
The great majority are, yes. If the filter just looked at that and not whether they were IPs or not, it would help. The Esdaile copyvio stuff is a different issue though. I guess I'll just have to hope I have all the affected articles on my watchlist. Dougweller (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Change made, and filter re-enabled. -- The Anome (talk) 18:09, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:36, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
It's not working - it's catching stuff it shouldn't catch. Dougweller (talk) 18:46, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
That was my worry. I've now disabled it. This filter really can't be useful unless we can create a narrower set of rules that match the behavior you wish to stop with a very low false positive rate. -- The Anome (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Not sure I understand. It's just a set of 2 word phrases, I don't know why it was catching other things. Shall I give you the phrases again? Dougweller (talk) 12:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-32[edit]

07:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


Searching, there is no others category containing Victoria, the other states don't have Australia, none of the us states have USA or similar. Apart from the work involved in re-correcting 300+ entries for a missing coord category! is there a better reason we couldn't rename the Victoria (Australia) to plain Victoria ? --Dave Rave (talk) 09:06, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

ta, just looked at the 'new' page and went to the parent category, Category:Victoria (Australia), there's that Australia again, all the places in this category also have the Australia. How many states in the world are there ? Alberta Canada has a town ... Not agitating for change on this part, yet, looking for clues. --Dave Rave (talk) 20:59, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
also ref against Category:Victoria , does that count as a disam directive or is it only helpful in the context of the disam --Dave Rave (talk) 21:05, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
I think the disambiguation on the higher-level category is fine. There are lots of places called Victoria in the world, and the disambiguation is consistent with Wikipedia's normal category naming rules. I agree with you that it's not necessary in the case of the geographical coordinate tagging tracking category, but this is specifically because there is only one regional-level subdivision in the world called "Victoria", so there's no ambiguity in that particular context. -- The Anome (talk) 21:35, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-33[edit]

07:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Reversion on Prime Prep Academy[edit]

I have undone the change on the subject due to the fact that there are multiple locations for the school. Hasteur (talk) 13:22, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

is there a way to signal that coords aren't applicable?[edit]

This is a great bot, it often alerts me to missing coords in articles and then I go and add the coords.

But is there a way to tag an article to tell the bot "no, this one shouldn't have coordinates"? Obviously I can just remove the missing coord template, but I presume the bot will return at some later stage and re-instate it. The specific article of concern to me at the moment is Travelling post office, Queensland (which is a post office that travels by train so not exactly fixed infrastructure).

Thanks Kerry (talk) 22:00, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the appreciation! To tell the bot the coordinates aren't needed, just remove the {{coord missing}} tag, and it shouldn't re-add it again, unless the article is renamed to a new title. Regards, -- The Anome (talk) 00:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Too easy! Thanks Kerry (talk) 02:15, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

official coords available for BC RDs[edit]

Re this, I don't know where Wikidata gets its data from, but the official sources is readily available, perhaps parseable so can be automated; CGNDB is the other, with the same rounded DM vs DMS data, though lately BC Names has been refining many entries with DMS; where is Wikidata anyway? Another part of the wiki-verse? I see the term but...Skookum1 (talk) 02:16, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-34[edit]

07:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-35[edit]

09:21, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Source of bad coords?[edit]

Where does Anomebot2 get the coordinates it adds to articles? Here it added coords to Novoazovsk that were off by 10 km. Abductive (reasoning) 14:45, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Re: MediaWiki:Titleblacklist[edit]

Thanks, it suffices to ping me in one place. I watch discussions I participate in. Matma Rex talk 14:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Crna Gora Republika, Serbia and Montenegro listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Crna Gora Republika, Serbia and Montenegro. Since you had some involvement with the Crna Gora Republika, Serbia and Montenegro redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - TheChampionMan1234 02:11, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-36[edit]

07:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-37[edit]

09:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Neda Soltani for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Neda Soltani is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neda Soltani until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:32, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-38[edit]

08:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Strange addition of coordinates to Tyers Electric Train Tablet[edit]

Tyers Electric Train Tablet is a type of railway signalling apparatus. There were thousands of such instruments in use all over the former British Empire; so what was the inspiration for this edit? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:22, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Crazy metadata in leading my bot to think this was a railway station (specifically, the fr:Gare de Charenton), and none of the heuristics built into the bot to stop it making silly edits catching the error. I've now fixed the metadata on Wikidata to split the railway station and the signalling system (now at apart into two different data items. -- The Anome (talk) 09:43, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Images missing by place, redux[edit]

Any chance you might revisit #Images missing by place, above? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[edit]

Hello The Anome, I saw your revision deletions on the Scottish referendum article. Shouldn't this text by also be deleted?

<Note: text redacted by The Anome> Gerard von Hebel (talk) 13:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but it's a more complex issue that needs oversight attention. I suggest you contact the WP:OVERSIGHTers and ask them to handle this. -- The Anome (talk) 14:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


Okay, I've had to oversight the revisions you rev-del'ed earlier today. I've also removed your sections on AN and ANI because we do not discuss things such as this on the noticeboards (see the big red boxes). To answer your general questions, you must revdel all revisions with the offending content, to do otherwise is less than worthless, as the revdel draws even more attention than just letting it lie where it was. Use the same reasons for the revdel of the revisions that contained the offending content as you do for the revision that added it. Second, if there is general doubt about the content and where the revdel/oversight line lies, please drop a note to the oversight team, not asking questions on AN or ANI. Courcelles 15:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know: I appreciate your help on this. -- The Anome (talk) 15:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-39[edit]

09:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Not a great block[edit]

Anome, you blocked Ilikebigbutts@icannotlie for a username violation. The consensus on the UAA page was there was no issue with his user name. The only individual who had one (and screamed loud as hell about it ) was Hammersoft. This user has yet to edit, and has a handle that matches the lyrics of "Baby got back". They recieved no communication about that name, nor were they given the chance to change it first. I'd say that block isn't right. (In case your'e wondering, it's not me, and I don't know who it is either ). Would you consider reconsidering,or allowing them to change their name ? KoshVorlon Angeli i demoni kruzhyli nado mnoj 16:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

  • Kosh, WP:UAA asks us to either report the username or discuss the issue with the user. I chose the former, as I find the name deeply objectionable. I did nothing wrong. I am not required, and even WP:UAA asks us not to, discuss the username with the user if it is seriously objectionable. Describing my debate regarding the user name as "scream[ing] loud as hell" is nothing short of a personal attack, and is compounded by the thread you posted on my talk page. I recommend you drop it; if the person wants to continue editing under that name they can request an unblock, directions for which are already on their talk page. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
  • The block is a soft block, and doesn't prevent them from creating another account with a different name -- indeed, the block message contains an invitation to create another account, or to ask for their existing account to be renamed. The name is a blatant example of sexual objectification; if we allow names like this, we are implicitly creating an environment some people will find unfriendly, and it's not worth the hassle for other editors just to give one editor their way on choice of username. Usernames on Wikipedia are meant primarily to be identifiers, not a forum for unlimited personal self-expression, and just because something is a song lyric doesn't give it a free pass. -- The Anome (talk) 22:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Wrong coordinates[edit]

THe coordinates are linked to the wrong webiste and location. How do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwa101 (talkcontribs) 01:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- can you be a bit more specific, please? Can you tell me which article in particular has this problem? -- The Anome (talk) 12:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-40[edit]

09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Ebola Graphs[edit]

Hi The Anome,

I was very happy to find your graphs regarding Ebola growth for countries on linear and logarithmic scale. I soon entered the data in to a spreadsheet to have ad diagram with more, and more recent data available. The graph I made for the rates are therefore based on yours, because I find you presentation good, and also to prevent confusion.

Your last update is from September 14th. Do you plan to update the graphs, or shall I do this? I can easily upload graph with more recent data. Either in a new file, or by updating yours. What do you think about this?

As now the first patient is reported in the US, it will probably be required to add the US also. In the moment there are heavy discussions in the talk page, because US and Senegal are similar. Either they remove both countries, or add the US. I would present in the graphs only countries that are presented in the table below. Due to layout issues I would add the US probably only in the logarithmic rate graph. I would then change colouring, black for Total/World, dark blue for US. It would be good, if we keep the colours in the graph consistent. What do you think?

Kind Regards, Malanoqa --Malanoqa (talk) 06:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Malanoqa, all of this sounds good to me. Your presentation of the data is a significant improvement on mine, and I would be most pleased if you could take over this work. Kind regards, -- The Anome (talk) 11:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi The Anome, so I keep the filename on Wikimedia, and update it with new more actual graphs? In that case all links on wikipedia articles would automatically point to the new versions. OK?
Kind regards, --Malanoqa (talk) 12:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi The Anome, I created a new file, due to legal rights, We will update the links in the referring articles manually. This is also more transparent. With kind regards --Malanoqa (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Anomebot2 indecisive?[edit]

In this edit, Anomebot2 added a {{coord missing}} template with scope “United States”. Less than an hour later, the bot updated the scope of its own template (here) to the state of Georgia. Five years passed, during which Anomebot2 was content to leave the article alone. But when I updated that template manually to focus it on the city of Atlanta (here), Anomebot2 changed its mind and deleted the template outright (here).

So at one point, the bot decided that an article needed coordinates which had not been provided, or even suggested, by any editor; but then at a later point, the bot decided to delete a more specific coordinate region which had been provided by an editor. Does this seem inconsistent?

Moreover, I cannot avoid the impression that Anomebot2 would have left the article alone had I not upgraded that template. I've invested some time in sorting a number of US {{coord missing}} articles into more specific geographic regions, and it is discouraging to think that a bot may delete any or all of that work for no stated reason.

Is there a pattern to this activity that isn't obvious, something that might make the Anomebot2 behavior more understandable, and hopefully more predictable?

 Unician   09:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

I didn't spot them at first sight, either, and was initially as surprised as you, but after further inspection I can see that the bot removed the {{coord missing}} tag because the article now specifies several several coordinates within it: you can find them in the map within the infobox. -- The Anome (talk) 13:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Ah, thank you, that explains the bot's actions. As for that particular article, it's an unusual case because the subject is a narrow ring of trails around a city, punctuated by a few parks; the coordinates for the individual parks are included, but the entire project might be better described using an additional single large region centered on the city. But since the city is named and linked, and its article does include coordinates and scale of a region, I think I'll leave the article as the bot left it.  Unician   02:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
This sort of article is ideal for either attached KML, or cross-referencing with an OpenStreetMap feature: WP:Wikiproject Roads have worked out a number of good ways to handle this sort of extended feature. -- The Anome (talk) 22:00, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-41[edit]

06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Patrick Sawyer[edit]

The difference between Sawyer and any other potentially scared EVD patient was that he was asked on several occasions, if he had ever been in contact with anyone infected but he continued denying all despite being on quarantine in Liberia. He wanted to even depart the hospital for Calabar, thank God for the heroics of Doctor Ameyo Adadevoh who risked her life to keep him in the medical facility. I understand that anyone will probably be having a cold feet in such situation, but no right thinking person should allow his/her death to be the cause of thousands of others. If I have EVD, I rather die alone (and go to Heaven) than take a risk that will certainly allow many other people die with me. I did not want to digress at the Afd that was why I did not leave my comment there.Darreg (talk) 21:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

One-cookie universe[edit]

Quick, eat it before it passes into my timecone:

Tech News: 2014-42[edit]

08:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


I'm just dropping by for feedback on the addiction, sexual addiction, drug addiction, etc articles. Is the distinction with what I was talking about on my talkpage earlier clear now? Seppi333 (Insert  | Maintained) 20:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi there -- sorry not to have got back to you earlier: I will take a look at this tomorrow. -- The Anome (talk) 23:57, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-43[edit]

13:48, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-44[edit]

05:21, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-45[edit]

17:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Links in list[edit]

Thanks a lot for editing List of railway_stations in Pakistan#All stations in Pakistan, with codes (alphabetically). Yes, Now it is much better than before. I want some more guidance from you. I want insert categories in all pages of this list, i mean i want insert category of District and Provices on each page. Is there any way to insert this without editing page. Is there any user rights or permissions about inserting categories quickly. Second, can you please tell me about NavBox format in which i need three columns. First Column for Province, Second for District and Third for name of railway stations. I want to change NavBox template. Thanks Ameen Akbar (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for all your great work on those articles. One way you might be able to generate articles quickly, including the addition of categories, might be to use the template substition mechanim to make an entire article from subst-ing a single short template. More details on this can be found at Wikipedia:Substitution. The other would be to use a bot to make the edits: see Wikipedia:Bots. Regarding the addition of extra fields for the {{infobox station}} template, I suggest you get in touch with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains project, who I believe maintain the template. -- The Anome (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-46[edit]

15:00, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Bégin Hospital[edit]

There's already a page for this hospital, here.

Is there any easy way to make a wikilink to wikipage in French?

Robertpedley (talk) 13:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi: if you look at the "Languages" field in the left sidebar of the Bégin Military Teaching Hospital article, and click on the word "Français", you'll find the French article is already linked from there, and vice versa. (The links are done using Wikidata: if you click on the "edit links" field in the interlanguage links, it will take you there) -- The Anome (talk) 13:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
OK, got it; but it's very long winded. My Chrome browser will automatically translate French text, isn't there a way to give a direct wikilink to a page on The only way I can find is e.g.
(talk page stalker) @Robertpedley: That link may be simplified to [[:fr:Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin]] - notice that this starts with a colon, then the language code, then another colon, after which the full page name is given. This produces fr:Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin; the first colon isn't displayed, but its presence is necessary. You can hide the language code and second colon as well by using [[:fr:Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin|Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin]] which produces Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin. There is more on this at H:ILL. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Brilliant, thanks! I have no idea when I will use it, but I'm sure it will be useful. Robertpedley (talk) 19:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-47[edit]

18:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-48[edit]

19:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Phone number username[edit]

Thanks. I'd figured that's what it was; it just seemed a little too long even assuming a country code was at the beginning. Good job following up—it was very late and I knew I wouldn't be able to manage it. Daniel Case (talk) 20:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-50[edit]

17:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png The Barnstar of Diligence
thank you mr bot Saadkhan12345 (talk) 04:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Autonomous spaceport drone ship[edit]

Hi there. Your bot recently added a missing coordinates template to the Autonomous spaceport drone ship. I'm not an expert on how that template is used, but it begs the question: "Is such a template really appropriate for ships?" Ships obviously move locations all the time, so it is not clear how geodata could be current, unless there were some sort of GPS beacon on the ship, with that data publically accessible, and a bot regularly updating wiki-articles for where the ship was most recently.

Net, if it turns out to be not applicable for ships, you should update your bot to watch for that indicator; as well as go back and fix this article manually. Cheers. N2e (talk) 16:05, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- thanks for spotting this. The article was tagged because it was categorized as a spaceport. Ships are not inherently un-geocodeable (eg. sunken ships and permanently moored ships), so the bot didn't use that as a sign for the article not to be geocodeable. I'll go and fix the article by hand, but unless this particular coincidence happens again, I don't think the bot itself currently needs fixing. -- The Anome (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this! N2e (talk) 05:05, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-51[edit]

16:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets![edit]

Wikipedia Happy New Year.png Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

Hello The Anome, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2015.
Happy editing,
The Herald : here I am 11:16, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Tech News: 2014-52[edit]

16:52, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-01[edit]

16:52, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Ebola in the UK post[edit]

Ok, I agree will remember from now on, what to do. D Eaketts (talk) 20:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! No harm done, and now you know. Thanks for your edits! -- The Anome (talk) 20:04, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year The Anome![edit]

Tech News: 2015-03[edit]

16:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


You placed a blocking template on a user's talk page. However, you forgot to block the user!--5 albert square (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Ouch! Thank you for finding -- and fixing -- that! -- The Anome (talk) 14:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
No worries. The user got reported by DQB to UAA which is how I came across it. I thought I was seeing things when I blocked them then found a blocking template already on the talk page :)--5 albert square (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-04[edit]

18:13, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

TfD discussion grouping[edit]

Hi Anome, the TfD bot isn't removing dec 17 and dec 19 from the TfD list, probably because of the grouping I did there. What is the proper way to group discussions or close grouped discussions so that the bot will still pick them up? I could archive them manually, but I'd rather just know the right way to do this. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 13:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC) Wrong Anome. Oops.

Tech News: 2015-05[edit]

16:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hypersexuality ref[edit]

Hey, thanx, Anome! I could see that it was fu cked up, but I didn't know how to fix it. VerdanaBøld 23:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdana Bold (talkcontribs)

File:Henry flipper.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Henry flipper.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-06[edit]

16:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News 2015—#1[edit]


Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins. 

Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.

Recent improvements[edit]

The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:

  • starts a new task, like opening the Save page dialog:  blue ,
  • takes a constructive action, like inserting a citation:  green ,
  • might remove or lose your work, like removing a link:  red , or
  • is neutral, like opening a link in a new browser window:  gray.

The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design (T67815) based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor (T73746). This change fixed a couple of existing bugs (T73077 and T73078) and improved usability.

Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once (T78234).

Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedias requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace (T86688, T87027). If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.

Looking ahead[edit]

The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.

We will need editors to help test the new design of the special character inserter, especially if you speak Welsh, Breton, or another language that uses diacritics or special characters extensively. The new version should be available for testing next week. Please contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF) if you would like to be notified when the new version is available. After the special character tool is completed, VisualEditor will be deployed to all users at Phase 5 Wikipedias. This will affect about 50 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. The date for this change has not been determined.

Let's work together[edit]

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Tech News: 2015-07[edit]

16:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Valentine Greets!!![edit]

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Hello The Anome, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Wikipedia, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person.
Sending you a heartfelt and warm love on the eve,
Happy editing,
 - T H (here I am) 12:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Valentine Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Tech News: 2015-08[edit]

17:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Looking into the future on that impressive list of redlinks![edit]

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Hello, The Anome, I've added a copy-and-paste citation to your redlinks page in preparation for the DC Meetup at Howard University. It's clear you deserve an award for all the forward-looking work you've done here! Do stop by a social meetup sometime, and let us thank you in person. --Djembayz (talk) 19:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


Hello. Your recent revdel didn't have the effect that I assume you intended. Since there were two edits after yours, the edit was still visible, but I have taken care of those for you. Cheers ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:44, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks -- I'd completely missed that. -- The Anome (talk) 15:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Block an Account[edit]

Never Mind, Problem dealth with. RainingPain17 (talk) 14:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)RainingPain17

Tech News: 2015-09[edit]

16:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I've been created some stubs, Category:Montenegro articles missing geocoordinate data needs addressing :-) I've only done two municipalities too! Also somebody needs to add the interlinks to the other wikis like Slovene and French wikis.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-10[edit]

16:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-11[edit]

15:19, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


The Anome you might remember me from Ebola/west Africa article, I have a GA nomination for Dyslexia and have finished , however it would be good if someone looked at it,(remember to hit start review) I would appreciate any feedback--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


Most of my comments about The Anomebot2 seem to have been nitpicking (though I appreciate the bot immensely; most of the work I do here is a direct result of its existence), so here's another nit. Over the years, I've noticed that it tends to add {{coord missing|Denmark}} to articles with Greenland categories, but since we have Category:Greenland articles missing geocoordinate data, populated by {{coord missing|Greenland}}, wouldn't it be better for the bot to add the latter template directly? Deor (talk) 12:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

You're quite right. I'll address it in the next revision of the bot's code: given the special status of Greenland (as both a top-level country and a part of a top-level country), I'll have to special-case it in the analysis code. -- The Anome (talk) 17:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-12[edit]

15:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for helping.[edit]

Thanks for helping on the article "0.999...". I see that you undid my edit, but there was a reason for those tags. The statement "accepted by mathematicians" is a weasel statement. Who accepted 0.999... = 1? It does not include an example when it should. "general mathematical education", where? Algebra 1, 2, 3? it does not specify. "some students" who? in which grade level? "Such skepticism is common enough that the difficulty of convincing them of the validity of this identity has been the subject of numerous studies in mathematics education." Too many "of"s in that sentence. "Common enough"? says who? That statement alone needs a citation. I see that you were trying to help also. Can we come to a compromise that we can both agree on? Thanks! The f18hornet (talk) 18:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

To take just the first point, "accepted by mathematicians" is, I believe, unquestionable within the framework of conventional mathematics: not only have renowned mathematicians -- and they don't get much more renowned than Euler and Cantor -- publicly stated that the statement 0.999... = 1 is valid within the conventional understanding of the real numbers, it's now known to be provable from the ZFC + logic axioms that underpin that formalism. Here you go. Now, there are other mathematical formalisms that will give different results, but they are highly non-standard, and they tend to break simple arithmetic, or do other weird things -- and all this is dealt with in the article.
At this point, I believe this has reached the same level as, say, heliocentrism in astronomy: if anyone wants to say that any astronomers believe that Sun goes round the Earth rather than vice versa, the burden of proof is on the person making the assertion, and it's up to them to provide their own cites to prove their point.
To take the second point, "general mathematical education" should mean "all of it." If you're teaching young children that 1/3 = 0.333... [by long division], you should also be teaching them that 3 × 1/3 = 0.999... = 1. At that early stage, it's fine to tell them that that's just how it is: but when you reach the high-school level, you ought to be introducing the idea of limits, and providing at least a semi-rigorous demonstration of the fact. Undergraduates in numerate fields should be able to prove it themselves from first principles with at least moderate levels of rigor by the end of their first year. At least that was how it was in my experience of being taught mathematics. Your experience may differ. -- The Anome (talk) 19:05, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Curiously, this very topic (does 0.9999... = 1) was being discussed by ClemRutter (talk · contribs), Edwardx (talk · contribs) and myself two weeks ago, over pints of "Lambeth Walk" porter (from By The Horns brewery). --Redrose64 (talk) 21:36, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
As promised, there is now an article, By The Horns, complete with images. Edwardx (talk) 13:52, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-13[edit]

15:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Rm FP please[edit]

Here. ResMar 03:23, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Already done. ResMar 04:11, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Fritchley Tunnel[edit]

Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


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Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:56, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


See: [415]
The same IP-user (I have a strong suspicion as to his sockpuppet identity) also created your User page on PL with similar language, which I {delete}-ed and it has already been removed. W\|/haledad (Talk to me) 22:31, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-14[edit]

15:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

More griping[edit]

OK, here's the problem with Wikidata. A while back, someone on Turkish Wikipedia created a bunch of articles about villages in in the Ardahan district of Ardahan Province. That editor, however, included exactly the same coordinates in each article—probably because he copied the infobox from article to article without making the necessary changes. These coordinates then got imported, without correction, to Wikidata, and now your bot is adding them to en.wp articles. (The bot was previously using GNIS data rather than Wikidata to geotag these village articles, which, while not precise, at least didn't give them all the same damn coordinates.) Now I, or other editors, have to go through Category:Ardahan District, correcting the coordinates, and go to Wikidata to correct them there in order to forestall the further spread of the incorrect coordinates. (They've apparently already been imported to the Vietnamese Wikipedia, so someone else will have to correct them there.) One person's inattention on one Wikipedia is spreading misinformation far and wide, thanks to the power of Wikidata. Not your fault, I know, but I need to vent my frustration somewhere, and I don't have a dog to kick. I hope that the Turkish editor didn't do this sort of business more extensively than I've yet discovered, but I suspect that this is unlikely to be an isolated incident of inaccuracy in Wikidata's information. Deor (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear this: that's unbelievably frustrating. I'll see if I can get the bot to back these off now on enwiki, and I hope that should help a bit. -- The Anome (talk) 23:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
OK, I'm removing all 25 cases of 41.1284 N 42.8329 E coordinates now. I will add {{coord missing}} tags again once they're all done. -- The Anome (talk) 00:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done -- see Special:Contributions/The_Anomebot2. I only removed those coordinated that exactly matched 41.1284 N 42.8329 E: please let me know if there are others, and I can take them out, too. Unfortunately, I can't help at wikidata, because I don't have bot rights there. -- The Anome (talk) 00:19, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I've gone through the articles in which your bot removed the coordinates, adding the correct coordinates. I see that you've also removed the duplicated coordinates on Wikidata. Hopefully, no one will bother to reimport them there. Deor (talk) 12:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Strike that last sentence. I see, from your post on my talk page that you've also been to tr.wp. Deor (talk) 12:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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VisualEditor News #2—2015[edit]

Did you know?

With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:

Screenshot of Citoid's first dialog

Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:

Screenshot of Citoid's initial results

After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.

Recent improvements[edit]

VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.

The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.

Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including AfrikaansAzerbaijaniBretonKyrgyzMacedonianMongolianTatar, and Welsh.

Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.

The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.

You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance ​on the page.

The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.

Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.

Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead (T90734).

Looking ahead[edit]

The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at

The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon.

Let's work together[edit]

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-Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 17:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-15[edit]

15:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Tea Bag[edit]

Hi The Anome! I moved Tea bag (sexual act) back per WP:TITLEFORMAT, specifically this section: Nouns and noun phrases are normally preferred over titles using other parts of speech; such a title can be the subject of the first sentence. One major exception is for titles that are quotations or titles of works: A rolling stone gathers no moss, or Try to Remember. Adjective and verb forms (e.g. democratic, integrate) should redirect to articles titled with the corresponding noun (Democracy, Integration), although sometimes they are disambiguation pages, as at Organic. Sometimes the noun corresponding to a verb is the gerund (-ing form), as in Swimming.

Just wanted to let you know as I know it was a good faith move. If I'm missed something or misinterpreted the policy, let me know. Cheers! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Well. you're right about the text of the policy you quote above, but wrong about its application. Please read the last sentence of the quoted text. A gerund is the "nouned" form of a verb, and this is precisely a case of the correct use of a gerund, such as in "swimming", in a title, that is recommended by the policy above. Would you call the swimming article "swim", or the walking article "walk"? Or damp proofing, or cycling to "damp proof" or "cycle"? And so on and so forth, ad absurdam.
In general, knocking the word "to" off an English-language infinitive does not make a noun. The infinitive for Pegging (sexual practice) is "to peg", but we don't have an article for "Peg (sexual practice)". Similarly for "to tea bag".
Accordingly, I've moved the article back to Teabagging, per WP:TITLEFORMAT. -- The Anome (talk)
I see what you mean. Okay. Thanks! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:15, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-16[edit]

16:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-17[edit]

15:31, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Fetish culture[edit]

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The article Fetish culture has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

unsourced OR

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. The Dissident Aggressor 04:14, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


You forgot to leave a block message for User_talk:YomumXD. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 15:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I've just done so. Thanks for the reminder! -- The Anome (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Hillary Rodham Clinton - Move Discussion[edit]


This is a notification to let you know that there is a requested move discussion ongoing at Talk:Hillary_Rodham_Clinton/April_2015_move_request#Requested_move. You are receiving this notification because you have previously participated in some capacity in naming discussions related to the article in question.

Thanks. And have a nice day. NickCT (talk) 18:55, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-18[edit]

15:11, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Support request with team editing experiment project[edit]

Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here:, I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.

Tech News: 2015-19[edit]

15:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

New question raised regarding Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request[edit]

Some opposers of this move have now contended that there is a "Critical fault in proposal evidence", which brings the opinions expressed into question. Please indicate if this assertion in any way affects your position with respect to the proposed move. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-20[edit]

15:57, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-21[edit]

15:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-22[edit]

16:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

User:A Traitor[edit]

You blocked this new editor for a bad username. He or she is requesting unblock, claiming that this is the username he or she uses on all sites, that it isn't meant amiss, and the intention is to edit in good faith. I can see arguments on both sides in terms of whether this should be an allowable username, so I'd appreciate your commenting (on the user's talkpage is fine). Thanks, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:59, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I've unblocked them. -- The Anome (talk) 07:49, 29 May 2015 (UTC)


Category:Martyrs, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.  Diako «  Talk » 11:07, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


Hi. Are you aware that these pages a bots tag to prevent The Anomebot2? Are these tags still necessary?

-- Magioladitis (talk) 16:23, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Ah. The bot wasn't obeying the robot exclusion protocol. I'll fix that tomorrow. -- The Anome (talk) 23:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
The Anome did you fix these? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-23[edit]

15:42, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

More bot follies[edit]

Yesterday, your bot added coordinates (from Wikidata) to Naukan people and German submarine U-666. I removed them from both articles—the former because it's about a people, not a place, and the latter because according to the article the sub disappeared mysteriously somewhere in the North Atlantic, not at a known location. I know the bot won't re-add {{coord missing}} if it's been removed from an article; is there some way to stop it from re-adding inappropriate Wikidata coordinates? Deor (talk) 10:46, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

It shouldn't do this, and usually won't. This was my fault: I re-scanned some articles to catch some cases that had failed to be coded because of a bug: in doing so, I made the bot ignore previous removals that had happened in the last couple of days, intending to catch any glitches by hand. Unfortunately, I missed those changes. The bot should now be back to working properly. -- The Anome (talk) 11:12, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Buffalo Metro Rail[edit]

It’s senseless and misleading to have a single-point coordinate for a 6½-mile-long line, so I’ve removed the {{coord}}. Useddenim (talk) 11:13, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #3—2015[edit]

Did you know?

When you click on a link to an article, you now see more information:

Screenshot showing the link tool's context menu

The link tool has been re-designed:

Screenshot of the link inspector

There are separate tabs for linking to internal and external pages.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has created new interfaces for the link and citation tools, as well as fixing many bugs and changing some elements of the design. Some of these bugs affected users of VisualEditor on mobile devices. Status reports are posted on The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

A test of VisualEditor's effect on new editors at the English Wikipedia has just completed the first phase. During this test, half of newly registered editors had VisualEditor automatically enabled, and half did not. The main goal of the study is to learn which group was more likely to save an edit and to make productive, unreverted edits. Initial results will be posted at Meta later this month.

Recent improvements[edit]

Auto-fill features for citations are available at a few Wikipedias through the citoid service. Citoid takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. If Citoid is enabled on your wiki, then the design of the citation workflow changed during May. All citations are now created inside a single tool. Inside that tool, choose the tab you want (<citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-auto>, <citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-manual>, or <citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-reuse>). The cite button is now labeled with the word "Cite" rather than a book icon, and the autofill citation dialog now has a more meaningful label, "<Citoid-citeFromIDDialog-lookup-button>", for the submit button.

The link tool has been redesigned based on feedback from Wikipedia editors and user testing. It now has two separate sections: one for links to articles and one for external links. When you select a link, its pop-up context menu shows the name of the linked page, a thumbnail image from the linked page, Wikidata's description, and/or appropriate icons for disambiguation pages, redirect pages and empty pages. Search results have been reduced to the first five pages. Several bugs were fixed, including a dark highlight that appeared over the first match in the link inspector (T98085).  

The special character inserter in VisualEditor now uses the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki can also create a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Please read the instructions for customizing the list at Also, there is now a tooltip to describing each character in the special character inserter (T70425).

Several improvements have been made to templates. When you search for a template to insert, the list of results now contains descriptions of the templates. The parameter list inside the template dialog now remains open after inserting a parameter from the list, so that users don’t need to click on "Add more information" each time they want to add another parameter (T95696). The team added a new property for TemplateData, "Example", for template parameters. This optional, translatable property will show up when there is text describing how to use that parameter (T53049).

The design of the main toolbar and several other elements have changed slightly, to be consistent with the MediaWiki theme. In the Vector skin, individual items in the menu are separated visually by pale gray bars. Buttons and menus on the toolbar can now contain both an icon and a text label, rather than just one or the other. This new design feature is being used for the cite button on wikis where the Citoid service is enabled.

The team has released a long-desired improvement to the handling of non-existent images. If a non-existent image is linked in an article, then it is now visible in VisualEditor and can be selected, edited, replaced, or removed.

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Tech News: 2015-24[edit]

18:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Domenico Scala (cinematographer)[edit]

Would you be so kind to add some text and quote your source? It's a substub now.Xx236 (talk) 11:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I've made a start. I've also linked this article from as many of his films as I can find articles for here. -- The Anome (talk) 17:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-25[edit]

15:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


Hi The Anome, just double checking if you saw the discussion for you at Talk:Transracial. I'm considering adding Ethnic plastic surgery so holding back on that pending your potential undo and input. regards Widefox; talk 10:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

  • No, I'm fine with my edit. If you want to revert it, that's up to you. -- The Anome (talk) 16:53, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


At least you have a sense of humor about it, unlike just about everyone else on that article. I appreciate that! Regards,--A21sauce (talk) 22:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Automated Certificate Management Environment[edit]

Hi. Thank you for creating the Automated Certificate Management Environment stub! It looks like a nice start. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 23:00, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-26[edit]

15:24, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-27[edit]

15:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Sudden deletion of "Neutrois" redirect without discussion[edit]

See User talk:Ajfweb#Neutrois (please discuss there). Your sudden deletion without discussion of Neutrois, a redirect (not a stub), seems quite strange to me. —ajf (talk) 02:20, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-28[edit]

15:13, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

"Confederate flag" redirects[edit]

Hi Anome, I was going to take Confederate flag and its title-case equivalent to RfD. Redirecting them to Modern display of the Confederate flag instead of Flags of the Confederate States of America seems like pure recentism. When I saw that they were just retargeted, I thought I'd check in with you first and hear your rationale just in case. --BDD (talk) 14:00, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I don't think you'd have much luck with an RfD. The term "Confederate flag" is in very wide use, and it's meaning is clearly the stars-and-bars thing generally associated with nostalgia for the Confederacy: see and for examples of this being the common usage throughout the media and the Web in general. I think the thing is a vile symbol of racism and oppression. But the redirect is clearly appropriate. If you do put up an RfD for this, please do me the courtesy of pinging me to let me know. -- The Anome (talk) 14:34, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't disagree that that one flag is the common name for "Confederate flag". What I think is wrong is redirecting that term to an article specifically about modern usage of the same. Look for an RfD at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 9 momentarily. (P.S. I don't disagree about what it represents.) --BDD (talk) 14:38, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Confederate flag listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Confederate flag. Since you had some involvement with the Confederate flag redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. BDD (talk) 14:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-29[edit]

15:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Washington Monument[edit]

I added a reference showing that a 1 mm geodetic precision is not meaningless. For more info see Talk:Washington Monument#Lat-lon precision. The coordinates have now been changed from NAD83(2011) to WGS84. — Joe Kress (talk) 16:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

'The Man on the Clapham Omnibus' and route 88[edit]

I have altered the wording of your edits on the London buses route 88 and 'man on the Clapham omnibus' pages to something more conservative. There doesn't seem to be any proof that route 88 or its historical equivalent was precisely what 19th-century writers/lawyers had in mind when referring to 'the Clapham omnibus'. The 1857 reference mentions the man on the knifeboard of 'the Clapham omnibus' being stuck in traffic on London Bridge. The 88 doesn't go to London Bridge, although I suppose a forerunner of today's route might have done (I can't seem to find a website that lists the details of early London bus routes). Also, on the MOTCO wiki page, it mentions a modern review of the legal phrase. A quote from this suggests that Lord Bowen (said to be the first person to have used the legal phrase in court, in the 1880s) may have had in mind a horse-drawn route from Knightsbridge to Clapham. I don't know how reliable that claim is but the modern equivalent of such a route would be the 137.

I used to live in Clapham and remember well when, in the 1990s, single-deck buses with 'the Clapham Omnibus' emblazoned on the side were introduced on route 88. I assumed at the time that it was done based on some historical research, but maybe it was just a marketing gimmick. Dubmill (talk) 10:16, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm grateful for the clarification. -- The Anome (talk) 10:28, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

ref. to Natural number[edit]

Your claim "the single-instruction zero-check argument does not apply" is not legitimely deriveable from "traditional FORTRAN-style loops typically count upward, not downward." How do you think FORTRAN loops and addressing schemes were compiled, and what of the resulting assembly code referred to what machine instructions? Let me assure you that a good deal of counting habits arose before FORTRAN even reached version IV, and that they arose from the heavy users of the zero-check instructions in assembly code. Certainly, HLL revealed the most of these error prone clerical details, but it was too late to remove the zero off again from counting and the history went on.
I certainly will not go searching for proof on the computer folklore, so I leave this as is, but you should know what you have deleted for what flaw in conclusion. Purgy (talk) 11:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I've been a reasonably old-school assembly programmer (IBM 360 / 6502 era), as well as having written microcode for bit-slice processors and, more lately, software for considerably more modern architectures, and I'm afraid I disagree with you: my recollection is that counting down to zero is not the normal idiom even in assembler for most looping-over-storage code, which is the common case for most processing loops. If you really care about saving cycles, you would loop unroll the code, eliminating the overhead almost entirely. But I can also conceive that you might be right. Given that there is a legitimate disagreement here. the burden of proof is currently on you to provide cites, as the citations given within the article do not currently provide any support for your additions. -- The Anome (talk) 12:17, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, here's a naive C loop, as compiled by gcc:
00000000004004bc <main>:
 4004bc:        55                      push   %rbp
 4004bd:        48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
 4004c0:        48 83 ec 10             sub    $0x10,%rsp
 4004c4:        c7 45 fc 00 00 00 00    movl   $0x0,-0x4(%rbp)
 4004cb:        eb 09                   jmp    4004d6 <main+0x1a>
 4004cd:        e8 e4 ff ff ff          callq  4004b6 <do_it>
 4004d2:        83 45 fc 01             addl   $0x1,-0x4(%rbp)
 4004d6:        83 7d fc 13             cmpl   $0x13,-0x4(%rbp)
 4004da:        7e f1                   jle    4004cd <main+0x11>
 4004dc:        c9                      leaveq 
 4004dd:        c3                      retq   
 4004de:        66 90                   xchg   %ax,%ax
Note the use of a comparison and branch, not a decrement-to-zero. This is a modern high-quality C compiler, and it compiles things in natural order. A similar exercise using a FORTRAN DO-loop seems to do something very similar. -- The Anome (talk) 12:26, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi, cordial thanks for your open reply to my rather harsh sounding complaint, but as said, I'm not sufficiently interested in this to search for support of my remembrance. I have to admit that in the time period you refer to (systems/360), FORTRAN loops may have been compiled (by some compilers?) to upward counting instruction sequences, but the default counting direction of an index in a HLL has certainly no necessary connection to the counting direction at machine instruction level, and thus does not make your conclusion technically correct. Additionally, may I point you to the fact that no single /360 could have been sold without COBOL and FORTRAN, too, PL/I to the least, perhaps, i.e. HLLs (is this acronym still in use? High-Level-Language), and the aera of assembly programming has long been restricted to "hobbyists", seriously applied in time critical and "core" applications only (often for wrong reasons). I referred to my aera, that of 7040/7044, the early PDPs, to accumulators, to times, where a second index register already was considered a gigantic programming resource, and not to (pre-)CPUs and register stuffed architectures. Please, imagine machine instructions with only one address field! This was the time where "in-/de-crement and jump on zero/negative" had its high tide, and influenced rainmakers like E. Dijkstra to plead, absolutely counter-naturally, for starting to count at zero.
In case you have kids, best wishes to the zeroth, too. ;) Cheers. Purgy (talk) 09:29, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-30[edit]

03:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Birmingham station group[edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing—Birmingham station group —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Sammich28 (talk) 15:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-31[edit]

15:05, 27 July 2015 (UTC)