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The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017[edit]

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March Madness 2017[edit]

G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2017[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2017).

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  • A recent query shows that only 16% of administrators on the English Wikipedia have enabled two-factor authentication. If you haven't already enabled it please consider doing so.
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2017[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2017).

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  • Following a discussion on the backlog of unpatrolled files, consensus was found to create a new user right for autopatrolling file uploads. Implementation progress can be tracked on Phabricator.
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  • An RfC has closed with consensus to allow proposed deletion of files. The implementation process is ongoing.
  • After an unsuccessful proposal to automatically grant IP block exemption, consensus was found to relax the criteria for granting the user right from needing it to wanting it.

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  • After a recent RfC, moved pages will soon be featured in a queue similar to Special:NewPagesFeed and require patrolling. Moves by administrators, page movers, and autopatrolled editors will be automatically marked as patrolled.
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An update from the Sustainability Initiative[edit]

Thank you for supporting the Sustainability Initiative!

Hi, Chris! Thank you again for supporting the Sustainability Initiative, which aims at reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement. Over the past two years, more than 200 Wikipedians from all over the world have come together to push the Wikimedia movement towards greater sustainability.

What's new?

We are writing you this message because there is great news: The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has finally passed a resolution stating that the Foundation is committed to seeking ways to reduce the impact of its activities on the environment. Also, we have created a cool logo and found a nice name for the project which you can see on the right :-)

What's next?

Currently, we are working with Wikimedia Foundation staff to make sustainability a key priority for the selection of a new location for Wikimedia servers in Singapore. Also, we have presented the Wikimedia Foundation with a green energy roadmap to have all Wikimedia servers run on renewable energy by 2019.

Please help!

Let's keep this project moving forward – and there are several ways in which you can help:

  • Ask other Wikipedians to sign the project page as well – this way we can show the Wikimedia Foundation that this is an issue that the community really cares about.
  • Talk to Wikimedians you know about the importance of reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement.
  • Improve and translate the project page on Meta.

If you have any questions, you can contact us on on Meta. Again, thank you very much for your support! --Aubrey and Gnom (talk) 22:15, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXII, April 2017[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2017[edit]

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  • Following an RfC, the editing restrictions page is now split into a list of active restrictions and an archive of those that are old or on inactive accounts. Make sure to check both pages if searching for a restriction.

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017[edit]

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  • Dear The_Land its great to read your replies on the queries of Hindi wikipedia ,regarding your plans ,once you get elected for WMF board of trustees.I am translating your reply to Hindi and circulating it on whatsapp group of Hindi wikipedians.I wish you best of luck for the elections.:Swapnil.Karambelkar (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Swapnil! :) The Land (talk) 17:22, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIV, June 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2017[edit]

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  • Did you know: On 29 June 2017, there were 1,261 administrators on the English Wikipedia – the exact number of administrators as there were ten years ago on 29 June 2007. Since that time, the English Wikipedia has grown from 1.85 million articles to over 5.43 million.

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Balance sheet : WMFrance[edit]

Hello,

FYI: fr:Discussion utilisateur:Moyg#Bilan 2015-2016 de la WMFr

MrButler (talk) 20:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

WMFr[edit]

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Hi The Land,

Something great that I learnt in editing wp on contentious topics is the NPoV. That's really wonderful. Another thing that I have learnt is that nothing is all white and all dark. They are often grey zones.

There is something that the CA stated which is strange :

Nous vous faisons part de notre indignation concernant le fait que certaines attaques très virulentes au sujet du CA et de la direction émanent de personnes qui, loin de poursuivre les idéaux qu’elles affichent, tentent de masquer leurs motivations réelles et leurs conflits d’intérêts (paid editing, formation rémunérée déguisée en bénévolat; tentative de récupérer les demandes de formations arrivant à l’association via OTRS pour les facturer pour son activité personnelle, etc).

These are a strong accusations. It is even diffamation. In fact, they target Florence Devouard. It could be discared if Florence was not giving trainings aiming to help entreprises to increase their visibility on wikipedia.

I mean :

- if really somebody did or tried to do what the CA of WMFr states, he/she should be expelled from WMF and WMFr ; - if the CA cannot prove his allegations, they should be expelled from WM Fundations and WMFr Association because that is a big issue (maybe there is 3rd option: a big mistake, nervosity, feeling of harassment and takes excuses could be enough but...) ; - What Florence Devouard does (as proven by the link) is at the edge and I would even say on the bad side of the red line. So I think she should take distance with the current inquiry against WMFr Association. But it seems that she plays a central role (eg, in the writing of the timeline or on the discussion lists, and I think in the communication with the Foundation... And you ?).

I gave her two times the opportunity to come and explain here on wp:fr bistro and she prefered ignoring it. So I don't have any other option but contacting you.

user:Pluto2012 Errr. Sorry, who is her ? Is it me or someone else ? Anthere (talk)

Pluto2012 (talk) 15:15, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello @Pluto2012:. It looks to me that that training Florence offers is basically "how Wikipedia works". There is nothing wrong with training people, even companies, how Wikipedia works. But I'd say the right place for whatever concerns you have is the French Wikipedia not the English Wikipedia.
Regardless, it doesn't affect my views. There are so many serious criticisms of Wikimedia France that even if one particular criticism turned out to be entirely wrong, there would still be a crisis. I am particularly worried that the WMFr leadership spend so much time trying to prove they have done nothing wrong at all. If you read the FDC comments from WMFr, or many of their emails, it is clear that they don't take any responsibility for anything - it is all someone else's fault. Regards, The Land (talk) 15:51, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
The crisis is extremelly serious and deserves inquiry.
I bave adviced the 5 members of the CA and both directors (woman and man) to resign.
They will not follow me but that's their decision.
Regarding Florence Devouard, the allegations of the CA (here above in French) are also very serious. And I disagree with you: these trainings are charged 600 €. Paid editing from entreprises is severely restrained on wp:en. Don't tell us that being paid to teach to entreprises how to edit "safely" would not... Let's be serious...
Anyway all this requires more investigations. It also requires serenity. I just wanted to underkine that if it seems very clear that the direction of WMFr became "mad", it should also be obvious that it hasn't become mad "spontaneously". They also complained from pressure and pointed some of these. Given some writings I could see, I also think they are just not competent to manage a team of people (autoritarism, ...).
Good work and courage in your inquiry !
Pluto2012 (talk) 17:18, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Several points

  1. It is interesting how the training is presented right now. There is no date and timeline... it looks like it is still ongoing. But the truth is... there was only ONE session altogether. And this was nearly 10 years ago. It was only pure training except... it did not really turn as I thought it would turn. First very few people show up and second, the training room had no computers at all. It did not work out well at all, so was never renewed. But I guess it is good for the traffic ranking, so they kept it. Yet...beside the fact it was BEFORE the red line, I do not think it was on the wrong side of that red line. Even if you claim it was, given that it was nearly 10 years ago, I really think it is NOT a valid argument to ask me to recuse myself. I am a member of this association. I CO-FUNDED this organization back in 2004. I was on its board several years, included as Vic-Chair of it. No one (I repeat, no one) ever complained about a supposed paid editing about me during all those years. I appear in the list of people who speak up because I really care about the association, I care about the mouvement AND I have the courage to face the legal threats the current management of Wikimedia France is throwing onto the faces of current staff, former staff, board members themselves and regular members. Many members do not want to take that risk. I am willing to.
  2. the board letter is actually not hinting at me in that specific accusation. I wish they had named names. But they had very clear names in mind and I doubt very much mine was in that short list for paid editing. What they blame me about is to reported misuse of money. That and being a troll (understand that as disagreeing and saying I disagree)
  3. regardless of the above points... I would like to outline that no less then 75 members of the association, voluntarily and actively REQUEST the occurence of a unplanned General Assembly, during which, it is planned to request the entire resignation of the remaining board members (5 resigned in the past few months). 75 members represent more than 25% of the membership, which is the minimum legal to request a General Assembly even when the board refuses it. I let you have a look at the brand new GA organization page here. Thanks Anthere (talk)
FYI [1]. Pluto2012 (talk) 17:44, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for answering, Florence. It was hard to get an answer.
I confirm that we don't know each other. We never met and never interacted.
1. In fact the page was created in 2010 but was modified a huge number of times. It is sad that you promote this training in introducing yourself as "Membre de l'advisory board et ancienne présidente de la Wikimedia Foundation (hébergeur de Wikipédia). Membre du conseil 'administration de Wikimedia France". From my point of view, that's crossing the red line. And once is once too much. And reading this I don't feel at ease.
2. I disagree with you when you state that the CA says you are a troll. Marie-Cecile Mathis didn't target you when she used that word. In fact, she used that word to explain why the affiliation to WMFr was refused to some people and in truth she didn't even target them. And you used this to discredit her...
It is true that they are angry against you because you disclosed their attempt to generate another fund, which is a big issue.
But they also accused you of trying to distabilize the Association and it is sure that you cannot be part of any investigation of the Association. I add that if the accusations of the CA do not target you it would be interesting to know who they target. It is a question Chris should ask them (my two cents).
3. You have not been appointed by the 75 members as their representatives. But it is true that you lead the movement but that's also what the CA says... I could not imagine that you would be part of the team sent by the WMF to inquire the problems of WMFr.
Pluto2012 (talk) 18:04, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

OK, time to end this discussion please. It's nothing to do with me. I am very concerned about WMFr's leadership and not at all concerned about Florence running a training session 10 years ago. In the unlikely event there is any more to say, please don't say it on my talk page. Regards, The Land (talk) 18:11, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017[edit]

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