User talk:The Rambling Man/Archive 24

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GA Sweeps

This is a formal invitation to be a reviewer for WikiProject Good article sweeps. Only experienced and trusted reviewers are invited to participate in this task. If you decide to participate, keep track of your progress here. Everything you need is located on the project page. Drop a line on my talk page if you need anything. Regards, LaraLove 19:01, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Wasting energy

I know I'm wasting energy but I think I'm wasting it to save it. If you don't bold—particulary if you go out of your way not to bold—you're going to be talking about it indefinitely. Really, I did look at the history. There's multiple examples of "wasted energy" in bolding and reverting b/c editors seem to have made it a point of principle not to bold with this one article. Why? Just bold the article title or the name (like everybody else), and move along.

Anyhow, you have a Leopard at the top of your page, so we can agree on that bit of beauty. Editing that has been my latest bit of not-wasted-time. Drop by! (You'll be greeted with a bolded first mention :). Marskell 21:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Just curious

I'm just thinking that we should put finalised figures in the info box and change it accordingly when news arrives. I'm not insistent though; adding the phrase "at least" is fine too at this moment. Bonchygeez 17:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi. Sorry, I'm being annoying at the article talk page. Hope you have a good time in London, and don't get a cough from all the smoke. --Dweller 11:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, sorry :-(. I did do some copyediting myself. See the new iPhone? --Dweller 22:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
New iPhone due (we think) to be released after press conference at 2pm today. How exciting! 09:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

ITFC seasons / Robsons

If it's any consolation (and I know it isn't) you had the whole of the 2nd half on Saturday (barring a freak last five minutes) and deserved an equaliser. 4-0 was quite ridiculous really. Anyway... I've left you a comment re: ITFC seasons. Also I've been inspired by your Bobby Robson featured article and am starting to improve not-his-son Bryan Robson's article. Could do with some advice on when to include the chapter in a book reference, as I'm confused by how you've done it. If the pages are referenced out of order, how can you tell which pages belong to which chapter? Would it be better just to include the chapter name in every reference? Cheers. --Jameboy 22:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

(copied from my talk page as no login = no watchlist..., so you may not have seen my reply otherwise) Have to agree about Bryan's poor managerial stats, although I haven't verified them yet. As an aside, I noticed from here that Bobby Robson was once England B coach, seemingly around 1978-80, which I thought you might want to mention in the article. It seems quite relevant, especially as he went on to pick some of the same players at full international level. I'd be happy to add it in myself, but thought you might have some additional supporting material in books etc. that would put it in context. Cheers. --Jameboy 12:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, that's interesting. I'll have a look when I get back from London. More soon... The Rambling Man on tour 10:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi Rambler, I was wondering if you could review User:AndonicO/Vandalism, being a vandalism expert and all... :) · AndonicO Talk 14:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

You have something specific in mind? I wrote an article on this a while ago... here. Are you looking for a different angle on the whole thing? The Rambling Man on tour 15:21, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

2007 UEFA Champions League Final FAC

Any chance you could lend your opinions to the FAC please NapHit 18:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm out of touch for a few days but I'll do my best to have a look at it before the weekend. Cheers! The Rambling Man on tour 10:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I've dealt with your comments, thanks for the help NapHit 14:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


When you get back, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Cricket --Dweller 10:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering ... would it be better to make a copy of the page and do it quietly rather than add a lot of tags in a hig profile page ? Tintin 10:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll reply at WT:CRIC --Dweller 11:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Villa park.

Don't fancy reviewing for me do you :) when you have sometime thanks Andy Everlast1910 19:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

That's fine thanks again. Everlast1910 13:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

All done! Everlast1910 15:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


Thanks! :) Just wondering how far we off with Villa Park GA?Everlast1910 08:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Done I think? Everlast1910 09:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I've been away (again) on business (again)... I'll have another look asap. The Rambling Man 19:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about missing that CITE I looked everwhere apart from the info box (my bad). Is everything done now :):) Everlast1910 20:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll get back to you. I'm just home and feel ill so I'm going to bed. More soon! The Rambling Man 21:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay thanks for all you've done! Everlast1910 21:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


Is the Off the pitch section any good now? Buc 19:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the support I've removed the off the pitch section and merged the info into other parts of the article. Do you have any other issues because I'm hoping to make this a FAC within the next week or so.Buc 18:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


London doesn't need you. Get back here at once. --Dweller 14:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Congrats... I see that a little star is heading your way. --Dweller 15:54, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm back! I'll catch up in the near future... (I've got a new iPod... you should touch it...!) The Rambling Man 17:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Goodness, it's good to have you back. --Dweller 21:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hurrah. Well I'm still sneezing out black stuff but I'm back in the wilds of Suffolk and I'm glad to be here. You sound stressed. I'm about to sleep. I'll be fully active tomorrow. Apart from fiddling with my new iPod...! You ok? Let me know if there's anything I can help with... More tomorrow. The Rambling Man 21:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Ahhh nothing big stuff. Frustrated over my list article (waiting for the club) and got a bit hassled over the Peterborough FAC. Nothing really. Just a bit tired IRL. Took out some frustration on a bunch of vandals and CSD pages. When you chimed in at Buc's page, it felt like the Lone Ranger and Tonto were reunited. I'm not saying who's who, kemosabe. --Dweller 10:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The now-traditional RFA thank-spam

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Admin coaching

Hey TRM, I have not talked to you for a while. Just to let you know I have prepared an update on our admin coaching page for you. Camaron1 | Chris 20:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


Yeah, I know. Can't keep away. We gave an awful performance on Saturday. That's two Mr Grants who may not be in their managerial roles for long. Watched MotD - thought Arsenal were outstanding, but I laughed at Earnshaw who left us cos he wanted to play in the Prem. --Dweller 22:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheers. Feel free to drop in at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#QQ_MORE_NOOB --Dweller 09:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
And when you're done there <grins> please do review my contribution section at the foot of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Peterborough. I want to know if you think I'm being too harsh, particularly ref WP:CITE. I recognise that the article writer has a point when he refers me to CITE, but I worry because the sources are inaccessible, it's impossible for a reader to ascertain what material in the paragraph is sourced and what isn't, which becomes even more of a problem as the article endures future edits. Furthermore, surely FA is about the highest possible standards? Give it to me straight, blue-tongue. --Dweller 10:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
<Nudge> See the heartfelt message I placed at the foot of that page. --Dweller 12:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Nehrams2020 RfA Thanks

Thank you for your participation in my RfA, which closed successfully with unanimous support. I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and vote and I can't wait to learn the new tools and further immerse myself into Wikipedia! Please don't hesitate to point out any errors I make so I can prevent them from occurring again. I'm always here to help, so if you ever need anything, just let me know. Also, thanks to Wizardman for nominating me and for guiding many other editors to become admins. Again, thank you and happy editing! --Nehrams2020 07:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Real Madrid C.F.

Johnson and Carcel really manage the club for zero games because if you look carefully it says: "Only La Liga matches are counted", and La Liga was founded in 1929 (Johnson and Carcel didn't managed the team in La Liga period.--Hadrianos1990 12:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

What do you make

Of this weird section? (And the one below it) Is it some kind of Google honeypot? --Dweller 14:42, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to jump in on this, but yes. That's exactly what it is. Obviously someone has a massive thing for that particular page. If you can get enough links to a page, it boosts its search position, irrespective of its content. It's not really Google that's affected, because Google is a bit more cleverly written than most search engines. A little more intuitive, but many others don't have that luxury. --lincalinca 14:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Ah. Should this be "discouraged"? --Dweller 14:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't know exactly how the current pagerank algorithm works for Google but this is definitely suspect. Suggest a quiet word followed by removing the said external link honey pot... The Rambling Man 14:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
In progress. Like my nomenclature... "honeypot". Had to make something up, cos I don't know the real geek jargon. --Dweller 15:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

and another

As this is a "what do you think of..." kind of day, I present for your attention, Exhibit E --Dweller 15:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Pah, would be interesting to see how many stalkers have been jailed and if they're notable enough. I'd prod it. The Rambling Man 19:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Nice idea. I was humming and hawing about AfD, but prod's a good thought. --Dweller 19:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

ITFC Seasons

Hooray! --Dweller 16:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Congrats. Whats next? Players perhaps. I know a good templat if you need one? ;) How do you think Villa Park is looking? Congrats again. Woodym555 16:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks to you both (and all the other supporters and contributors)... What next? Probably the players... and some work on Portman Road to get GA. That featured topic can't be that hard...! The Rambling Man 19:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

UEFA Euro 2008

Do you think you could put your comments on the talk page of the GA Nomination. El-Nin09 18:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm with Oldelpaso, this can't be GA, it's going to be far too unstable until about July 2008. Is there anything specific you'd like me to look at? The Rambling Man 19:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I would like to know about everything else, except stability. El-Nin09 10:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

5 Hour Energy

I tried to contribute another article to Wikipedia. I followed all the guidelines you suggested in the last discussion we had. However, the article was deleted as it was noted as blatant advertising. I don't understand why this happened. I wrote an article on one of my favorite energy drinks, 5 Hour Energy. I used objective content and followed examples of other energy drink articles listed here -

I am asking you for advice on this matter as you were very helpful the last time I had problems with an article. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Oshburg 20:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Oshburg, I have dropped the admin who deleted it a note asking him to reconsider. --Dweller 07:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Cheers for taking it on Dweller. Oshburg, it does read like an advert my friend. We need to work on your article tone....! The Rambling Man 19:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

FA medal

Wiki medal.jpg The Featured Article Medal
This medal is awarded to The Rambling Man for being a significant contributor to 7 Featured articles, nominating 4 of those. I hereby award you the Featured Article Medal. Woodym555 12:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

even if some of these are for Ipswich related articles. ;) Woodym555 12:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm honoured. Serious contributions to seven featured articles and three featured lists makes me very proud, but by no means were they solo efforts. But thanks! The Rambling Man 19:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Thats the nature of a wiki. (Hence the significant contributor part). The actual criteria are sig cons to 3 FAs i think) Although it is hard to define significant contributor. Is it the man who has slaved away for months finding sources and building up the article or is it the person who guides it through the opposes at FAC? Either way you deserve this medal. Woodym555 20:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Still, much appreciated. I hope that I can continue to do this... when my rfa went through, it seemed to be the biggest concern, that I wouldn't be able to continue to expand the wiki. I am determined to keep doing it. Thanks again. The Rambling Man 20:39, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


You got mail. --Dweller 22:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Um, no I ain't.... (you do know how to press the buttons on this thing don't you?!) The Rambling Man 07:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

LYNX Rapid Transit Services

Hello! After seeing your comments for New Mexico Rail Runner Express, I was wondering if you could take a look at the article for LYNX Rapid Transit Services. I have been working on the article and would like some feedback on it before I start the nomination process for GA. Any critiques or constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your consideration! Patriarca12 02:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at this! I look forward to seeing your comments. Patriarca12 22:45, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments. I am working on implementing them and will soon submit formally as a potential GA candidate. Thanks again! Patriarca12 22:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

More old, dead, people for GA Review

Would you be so kind as to coach Edward the Martyr through to GA - Not be confused with Edmund, this is another king who got snuffed and then strange things were reported by everybody. I also have withdrawn Thomas Cranmer from FA, it had been rotting there since July with one support and one oppose. Somebody nominated it for GA. It is long, but that should be a rubber stamp as it would have passed FA with a little more attention by reviewers. As always, changes will be made to these articles as soon as I see you suggestions. I thank you for your consideration. -- SECisek 20:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, for what it is worth, our Edmund the Martyr troll seems to have at last lost intrest. Yea! -- SECisek 20:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
A good job! I've replied to your request on your page. The Rambling Man 20:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Any help you could offer would be great. I hope it wasn't Edmund that scared you off. That Ed Champion was a lone jackass. -- SECisek 20:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again. One of my GAs came up for reassement as part of the on going quality control and passed again with no comment. -- SECisek 18:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


Cheers Rambling, and well done with your lists too. Next I'm planning on putting up List of Gillingham F.C. players (once I've finished creating all the articles which are currently redlinks, anyway), and then I thought I might do some work on Steve Bruce - the first ever live match I went to was his last game for the Gills, as I recall..... ChrisTheDude 07:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Villa Park

I think I have taken care of all your comments :) Everlast1910 10:14, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

If i put it into photoshop and save it that way? If so I don't have photoshop on this computer is there a way you can do it? Also how far we off GA? Everlast1910 12:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Used openoffice number! Just tired in Excel and it doesn't work for me I.E. i cant get the graph to work :S the data is the ref on the villa park page and I used the red average attendances! Err if you do do it! It puts 2007 at the top! You will need 1947 on to to do that you select the columns and go to sort accessending if that makes sense? thats the link to the data Everlast1910 13:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I have the data saved in word if you want it emailing? Everlast1910 13:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
data is here if you click edit the page its in two nice columns :) thanks again Everlast1910 13:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Yep PC's :@. Okay well let me know when your done! Everlast1910 13:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Looks good must say added it in what do you think? GA now :)? Everlast1910 17:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Done took me ages to find :P That all now :) Everlast1910 21:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Yay!! :) Thanks for all you help!!! What needs doing to get it up to FA? :) Everlast1910 07:37, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay will do that later and again thanks for all your help! Enjoy your business trip as well :) Everlast1910 07:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I may sound dumb but how do i do that? :)Everlast1910 10:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Done thanks for all your help :) Everlast1910 10:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks have a good holiday!Everlast1910 12:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Villa (again)

Hi, could you ramble over to History of Aston Villa F.C. (1874-1961) when you have got the time and give any comments? I am currently pondering whether the dates are split correctly between this and History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961-present). I don't feel that it is split well at the moment, not least because of the difference in time: 95 years compared to about 40! I am thinking of spliting it at 1961, the inaugral League Cup win. This will then leave the second page talking about the 60s slump, board changes and the dreaded Third division. What do you think? Thanks. Woodym555 14:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd agree. Split more evenly would mean you shouldn't be accused of recentism and it makes sense just from a purely chronological sense. I'd do it. The Rambling Man 11:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
As a result could you delete the following redirects, i doubt anyone is going to use these as common search terms.
Thanks Woodym555 16:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Done, no worries. The Rambling Man 17:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Any comments on our first attempt at clearing up the History of Aston Villa F.C. (1874-1961) article? I know that you are inundated with requests but any comments would be appreciated. Thanks. Woodym555 18:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Cool. No bother, that's what I'm here for. I'll check it out when I get a moment. Presumably, as we've discussed in brief before, you're heading for minimum GA on this so I'll review it accordingly. Just don't hold your breath! All the best. The Rambling Man 19:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


Just got irritated by a rude and persistent reversion of some sourced material at Life of Brian. And then I thought, I can't believe I'm spending so long / so much effort trying to get a snippet of material included in such a trivial article. And this guy's so rude I can't be bothered engaging in further dialogue with him. I'll be keeping to exceedingly marginal contributions for a while. --Dweller 15:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Critique Request

Could you recommend someone to look over my work on the article Blue Wizards. Thanks. Alatari 19:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you looking for a specific quality, e.g. B-class, GA-class, etc? I'm not sure about the big quotation from Tolkein's book - could be considered copyvio - I'd need to check with someone clever about that. The Rambling Man 11:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

All Blacks versus France at rugby union

Hi, would you be able to have a read of All Blacks versus France at rugby union and leave your comments at the peer review here? Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. - Shudde talk 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Zippy, George and...

Thanks for the intercept, my friendly Exocet. --Dweller 14:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

As you well know, no thanks necessary...! The Rambling Man 14:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a new administrator!

Admin mop.PNG Thanks, Archive 24!
Thank you for voicing your opinion in my RfA, which passed today with a unanimous 79/0/0 tally. It feels great to be appreciated, and I will try my best to meet everyone's expectations. If you have any advice or tips, feel free to pass them along, as I am sure that I will need them! Cheers, hmwith talk 21:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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Bungle in the Jungle tag

Thanks for your note. Feedback always appreciated. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 10:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

What a friend we have in cheeses

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REDVEЯS awards this cheese-based award to The Rambling Man for being faithful to cheeses and for bringing the word of cheeses into the lives of others. 21:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

South of France? Join the Dark Side and visit us Brits living the high life here in the south of Belgium. We have all the things the French have (cheese, wine, bread) but none of that annoying sunshine stuff and we can offer a subtle form of intercommunal strife, usually without the brick-throwing! And we have beer! :o) ➔ This is REDVEЯS 21:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Good job!

Just wanted to say good job on blocking user:Burtonovich, it so refreshing to see a sensible admin, who does their research. Ryan4314 08:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

James Milner FAC

I don’t know if you’re aware but James Milner is a current FAC. It has been one for about a week now but so far only one user has provided feedback. Since have given feedback on this article in the past I hope you can provide some here. Buc 09:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. Are you going to remain neutral on whether it should be promoted or not? Buc 21:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Gills players list

Made some changes, what do you think? Feel free to respond on my talk page or the actual PR, I don't mind..... ChrisTheDude 09:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the bit I hadn't got round to doing yet ;-) ChrisTheDude 10:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Milner FAC

I know what these words mean, but, erm, what do you mean: "Order citations numerically."? --Dweller 11:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello you. It means where it used to say [25][4][47] it ought to be [4][25][47]. It's fixed now. The Rambling Man 11:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Aha! Ta. --Dweller 11:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


I think I've finished reffing the article, other than (of course) securing a RS for the bloody list of winners! Please will you check my lazy reffing and see what else needs to be fixed for FL, while I continue working on an RS. Ta. --Dweller 11:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sure thing dude. The Rambling Man 11:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Ta. In the table, do you think I need to replace "2007" with "2007"? --Dweller 11:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Or even a dashed 06 07 thingy? --Dweller 11:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
It'd probably be fine if you had just the year (since the award was given out in a single year) but link to the season. The Rambling Man 11:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Haha! I got really exited to do my first one, for some reason. I just gave it a 6 hour block, assuming it's simply some kids bored in school (before the school district notice was up). Was that the right move in that situation? hmwith talk 12:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. Thanks for the reassurance, and I'll start to be more sure of myself as I gain more experience. hmwith talk 12:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Spammer a/k/a SailBoat1982

This is a repeat offender, using both the IP and the Username. Seems to me the good faith is long dead. Still, as a result of undoing their edits, I've got a lot of these pages on my watchlist. If it recurs, you'll be getting an "I told you so" from me or User:Ronz, who's also been watching him/her. --Orange Mike 13:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Seems to be a Single Purpose Account dedicated to getting his/her company more street cred for their work; all edits are either about the brands they created, or about Lexicon itself. --Orange Mike 14:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

A.F.C. Wimbledon records

how do you add a source when it has already been done, and also is relatively POV.--Sunderland06 19:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you be more specific please? The Rambling Man 20:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
When it says astonoshingly. --Sunderland06 20:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Frank Barson

Frank Barson, I have done a lot of work on this article, I found it like this. I was just looking for another pair of eyes! Its had a PR and failed its first GA as i did it way to early! Thanks Everlast1910 10:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yet another admin coaching update

Hey, TRM, hope you are enjoying the South of France. I have done a quick update on our admin coaching page when you are ready. Camaron1 | Chris 15:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Article ratings

As a veteran of Good and Featured articles I wondered if you could help me? I'm still struggling to understand the difference between a Good Article and an A-class article. I've tried to read my way around this but am still confused as ever. James Milner for instance is designated a 'Good Article' but the actual rating is A-class, not GA. I know GA and FA each have a specific list of criteria but what about A-class? How do the criteria differ between A-class and GA? Also which milestone of the two would an article typically reach first? I'm working on a couple of articles to get them up to a decent standard but my confusion over the standards means I'm not really clear what I'm aiming at. Maybe I should just get them peer-reviewed and see what happens...? --Jameboy 11:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Hope you're enjoying your break by the way! --Jameboy 11:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey Jameboy, thanks for your question. I'll be brutally honest, I'm not up to speed on what classifies an article up from GA to A-class. I concentrate on GA and FA and not much else, and even (whispers) think that an A-class is probably not helpful (as you and I have proved but not really getting it!) However, what I can tell you is that you start off with a Start or Stub article, then a B-class, then a GA, then an A-class, then FA. So, that's the order in which you'd expect to see it occur. However, I've taken B-class to FA in one (long) jump, there's no obligation to go through all the stages. Having said that, as you've pointed out, a peer review is absolutely the best place to start when attempting to push for something like a GA or FA - here you'll expect to receive comments of people who 'know what to look for' which is essential for success. If you'd like me to cast an eye over your articles and let you know what I think of them now and what they could attain (and how easily) then we can progress from there? Sound alright? The Rambling Man 17:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm good thanks, and more than happy with that answer. I'll concentrate on GA and FA going forward. The main ones I'm working on are:
  • West Bromwich Albion F.C. - once I've added more citations in the history section, I'll put it up for peer review.
  • List of West Bromwich Albion F.C. managers - have already had some good feedback on this. I still need to expand the lead, and thoroughly research and give citations for the actual figures, as soccerbase has some of them wrong. Should hopefully be OK for Featured List Candidate once I'm done.
  • Bob Taylor (footballer) - Have a few bits to add, but is almost ready for peer review.
  • Bryan Robson - gradually working my way through his autobiography to produce the main body of the article, will then supplement with other sources. Still a fair way to go.
If you have any advice on the above articles it would be much appreciated. --Jameboy 18:14, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello. Took me a while to understand the comment about turning them yellow and green, lol. I'm considering removing the "played whole career" thingy. May be relevant for an article on the Hall of Fame, but not in player of the year. Besides, it'd be lousy to research, lol. What do you think? Oh, btw, there's one more ref (8) to be tidied, lol. I'm waiting to find a RS (or any source, actually) for additional 10 people added to the HoF in 2006, as well as the daddy of RS for the whole list. --Dweller 11:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Will a bot fix this [[1]]? --Dweller 11:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Gillingham F.C. players

Now up at WP:FLC if you fancy taking a butcher's.... ChrisTheDude 12:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Done dude. The Rambling Man 17:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


BoNM - Australia.png The Australian Barnstar of National Merit
Congratulations The Rambling Man, in a scietific study, Adam Gilchrist was found to be the most densely and thoroughly referenced FA on an Australia topic! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The sooner that the Australian public forgets about silly sports like rugby and AFL, the better. More focus on real football and Olympics. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello the rambling man, welcome aboard to the WikiCup. I am pretty glad that an admin like you can take part. The cup will start as soon as we have enough users and all our plans are sorted. Best of luck. The sunder king 16:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, i have decided to expand the tournament, the best thing you could do for me is to advertise it on your user page, (now 16 users) El-Nin09 17:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello, I have just started up a RFC on the usage and purpose of userboxes and I would like you to comment on it. please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia:Userboxes. The sunder king 20:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


Sorry, been quite caught up with stuff (not done much editing today). I'll get back to you properly when I can. --Dweller 22:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

The Ashes

HAve you seen this? This needs a overhaul urgently. It had 10 cites two days ago. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's in a bad way. Certainly doesn't match my idea of a Featured Article at any rate... The Rambling Man 07:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

IP Block

Thanks for your reply. I initially kind of freaked out and you're the admin I've had the most direct contact with, so my instinct was to contact you. I then cooled down and bothered to read the block page and followed the appropriate instructions and *voila*, mercury helped and fixed it up for me. Thanks anyway! --lincalinca 07:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


Check his block log. He's reverting on an article he just got off a 3RR block for. Will (talk) 07:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Please direct me to the task force you mentioned. I actually didn't revert those articles if you checked, as i took out a good deal of trivia and references from them and also attempted to implement a few of them into other parts of the article. Grande13 11:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Doing it again... Will (talk) 19:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


For some reason I can not revert here [2], it won't allow me. Can you try? Also do you know why my reverts are going through? Thanks! Phgao 13:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh that's strange, after I sent this message, I refresh the page and bang your revert is there; thus I conclude there must be some lag or something preventing me from seeing the most recent revision. Phgao 13:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Sometimes there's a lag in the database updates, sometimes you can't revert because someone beat you to it, sometimes you think you reverted it but someone else did... that's what happens when several people are trying to do the right thing all at the same time! The Rambling Man 13:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes indeed, thanks for the clarification; the weird whims of the wonderful world of wikipedia (..only reason I said that was to use alliteration) :D Phgao 14:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

My Move

Hey, thanks for your support, i hope to be contributing well soon. I am all packed and want to continue with World Cup. El-Nin09 17:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

You're more than welcome. The Rambling Man 17:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Ipswich murder article

I think that she and her should be avoided as far as possible whihc is the only thing I have a problem with I prefer the use of the surname primarily and she after a comma not at the start of a sentence.--Lucy-marie 18:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I see what you are saying I am not wholly opposed to she all together just at the beginning of a sentence. I personally think good prose avoid she or he and things like that at the begining of a sentence.--Lucy-marie 18:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Caffeine award

Slakr's Caffeine Award

For helping out during a time when everyone else seemed asleep, I award you some caffeine for your exceptional effort. I probably would have considered giving you crack, but then you might have started reverting contribs by random people, which probably would have been a bad thing. :P

Keep up the great work, and cheers =) --slakrtalk / 19:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Your Question on my RfA

Is the bloody hardest one I've been asked so far! And cheers for the Axolotl, it beats my "Tarragon Support" and "$upport" hands down. Cheers! Dfrg.msc 22:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Well perhaps I should withdraw my axolotl until such a time that you've adequately answered it?!! The Rambling Man 07:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Fine, I even made a sexy table for it. Hot or not? Dfrg.msc 10:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Hot. Things are going nicely for you. Soon you'll be able to be hated universally... like me! The Rambling Man 11:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The other Rambling Man?

Hi, do you have any connection with this one? :-) TerriersFan 02:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

No I don't. I'm more related to this one... The Rambling Man 06:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

James Milner FAC

Thanks for your feedback. Are you going to remain neutral on whether it should be promoted or not? Buc 07:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Regan1993

Cheers my man ! Pedro :  Chat  08:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Voyager Bogg


I was wondering if you could use your admin powers to do something about User:Voyager Bogg, who I believe is a sock of User:Creepy Crawler based on contribs. I've been playing with this particular sock in their various incarnations, User:XenaLite, User:MagicCreation and User:TheOuterLimits among others. Always the same pattern of contributions - adding barefoot to pages that really don't need it, and adjusting the categories. Thanks, WLU 11:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

juninho page

why it continues to cancel the page of juninho are real news please stop

Um, hey? Read your warnings. The Rambling Man 11:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The image of juninho is mine I have made with my photo cam

That's why I put it back. But I still doubt you took it. But until I can prove it, it gets to stay. The Rambling Man 11:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

ok but I assure to you that image is my thanks for the pacific discussion

Okay, you're welcome. The Rambling Man 11:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


Ha ha! I got my RS.

So, I now just need to finish wikilinking the years in the table and I think the PR can be archived and I'm ready to go to FLC next week. Any comments/suggestions before then? --Dweller 12:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that! Power to the people and all that. I'll have a look over it this afternoon. Nice work. The Rambling Man 12:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Lordi performing at the ESC 2007.jpg With thanks!   
Thanks for participating in my RfA, which closed successfuly.
I leave you with a picture of the real Blood Red Sandman!
Note his 'mop' is slightly deadlier than mine!
- - Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, thanks much for offering to help me out should I get stuck with all these tempting new buttons... ooh... what's that one do? complex tools ;-). But seriously, I will bear you in mind should I need any help. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)