User talk:The spesh man/Archive 2009

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User:Golbez, who I've been helping him with his summary discriptions in his map articles.

Problems with upload of File:Late Proterozoic 650Ma (Late Cryogenian Period).jpg[edit]

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Removed the above image from Cryogenian per the above notice and possible copyvio issues. Please clarify on the image page. Vsmith (talk) 00:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Myma-seldon.jpg[edit]

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A tag has been placed on File:Myma-seldon.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Polly (Parrot) 00:47, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

August 2009[edit]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Your recent edit removed content from North Korea. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. CardinalDan (talk) 16:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Information.svg Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles as you apparently did to North Korea. Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. CardinalDan (talk) 16:22, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Nuvola apps important.svg Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did to North Korea, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. CardinalDan (talk) 16:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop hand nuvola.svg This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to User talk:CardinalDan. Barras || talk 16:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

i am not!!! :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by The spesh man (talkcontribs) 16:31, 1 August 2009

Speedy deletion nomination of Territorial evolution of the World

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A tag has been placed on Territorial evolution of the World, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this. — (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Your article[edit]

I have moved your article to your userspace to allow you to work on it without it being deleted. Its now located at User:The spesh man/Territorial Evolution of the World--Jac16888Talk 18:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks User:The spesh man 19:03, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
By which I mean work on it there before recreating it in mainspace, I've deleted the one you added there since it has barely any content--Jac16888Talk 19:09, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Thats ok. Do you know when I would be able to upload the page with the speedy deletion thing coming up? User:The spesh man 19:13, August 1 2009 (UTC)

When it has some meaningful content, and plenty of sources, try reading this Wikipedia:Your first article--Jac16888Talk 19:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Do you want to see the page right now? User:The spesh man 19:30, August 1 2009 (UTC)

I think it is ready for now. User:The spesh man 19:03, August 12 2009 (UTC)

  • I have moved it back to your user space. "I think it is ready for now" - you are joking aren't you? Surely even you will admit that with just three entries it is nowhere near ready for the (article) namespace. Also did it really need fifty edits to get to its present state? Please use "Show preview" more often. Even when you think it is ready, I suggest that you should not move this article - ask Jac16888, Bismarck43 or me to move it for you. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 07:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


Why on earth do you think we need territorial evolution of the World when we already have list of World map changes? Why cannot you improve list of World map changes rather than trying to create a separate article? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 10:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Because, this article is just for blank, world map changes, not CITY changes, User:The spesh man 10:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you discuss the possiblity of a separate article at talk:list of World map changes before you attempt to repost. Incidentally, we have several "territorial evolution …" articles . They all have a lower case e on evolution. Why do you think that territorial evolution of the World should have a capital E? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 13:31, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Similarly, we have an article called World map not World Map so why do you want an M on map in list of World map changes? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 13:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Moving articles[edit]

Information.svg Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting it into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other articles that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. Jac16888Talk 22:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted you on the world map changes article again. As explained above, if you want to rename an article you need to move it, cut and pasting is innappropriate because of wikipedia's usage license. Please do not do it again, your refusal to listen to editors who are trying to help you is starting to get annoying, your removal of someone else's section from my talk page was out of order--Jac16888Talk 10:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

sorry. The spesh man (talk) 1:05, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


I have protected territorial evolution of the World. See if you can persuade Jac16888 to remove the protection, or if you can raise support at talk:list of World map changes, then I will do it. In the mean time here are some suggestions:

RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 12:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

File:World map changes 06-14-8.png is fine. I changed File:World map changes 06-14-8.png because it was 1424x625, not 1425x625. The spesh man (talk) 21:39, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Prince-Bishopric of Montenegro[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Prince-Bishopric of Montenegro requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. – Hysteria18 (Talk • Contributions) 12:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Your recent RfA[edit]

I am sorry, but I have closed your Request for adminship prematurely. Simply put, you only have 254 edits on Wikipedia; while your edit count isn't the only determining factor, and numerous people have their own personal standards by which they judge RfA candidates, this particular RfA was all but assured of not passing.

I am sorry about this, and I hope you don't take it personally. If you continue to contribute to the project in a positive fashion, I am confident that you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. You may wish to consider applying for an evaluation by other Wikipedia editors for feedback on how to obtain the necessary experience. Once you are ready to request adminship again, there is a great admin coaching program available, as well as a guide to requests for adminship.

If you have any other questions about becoming an administrator, please don't hesitate to ask me. Good luck!  Frank  |  talk  21:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I do. Majorly. The spesh man (talk) 21:09, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Ask away. I will be happy to answer to the best of my ability; others may join in as well.  Frank  |  talk  21:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How many edits do I need? I was doing this for an important reason. The spesh man (talk) 21:12, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

There is no magic number of edits, and it absolutely depends on the types of edits as well. There are editors who use automated tools and fail with 8,000 or 9,000 edits, and those who make manual, content-building edits who pass in the 3,000 - 4,000 range, although that is becoming increasingly rare. There are all sorts of ranges in between. Number of edits alone is not enough to determine.
What is the "important reason" you were requesting adminship? You could probably have someone else help you with something.  Frank  |  talk  21:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
There is no minimum number of edits - but the chances of an RFA passing with under 2,000 is slender to nil - and often many editors commenting will expect three, five or even more thousand. Raw edits are a bad guide however. It is the quality as well as the quantity of contribution that counts - the contributions need to demonstrate an excelent knowledge of policy, a courteous demeanour and - specifically here - that you want the tools to help Wikipedia generally - not just forward one article. Pedro :  Chat  21:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Alaska dispute[edit]

Did you really "make that yourself", or was it perhaps based on one of my maps? --Golbez (talk) 18:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I changed it. The spesh man (talk) 21:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

If you can add the border change, you can use my image!! It does fit, perfectly. :-) The spesh man (talk) 00:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Montenegro: Prince-Bishropatic (somthing like that)[edit]

Re your message: If you review the deletion log, I deleted the article at Prince-Bishopric of Montenegro back on May 17, 2008 appropriately as vandalism done by a different editor than you. I had nothing to do with the deletion of the version of the article that you created. I do agree with the reasoning behind the recent deletion, but had nothing to do with it. You may contact R'n'B, the administrator who deleted the version you created, about restoring the article. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 17:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  • I am talking about when you deleted it in 2008, I was trying to re make it recently. The spesh man (talk) 16:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Your version was deleted because it consisted of just an infobox. I have e-mailed you a copy. Do not repost it until you have several lines of actual body text plus two or three refs to reliable sources. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Territorial evolution of the World[edit]

Re your message: No, I will not unprotect the redirect. You were told back in August by RHaworth about the issues with that content fork. Please follow RHaworth's advice regarding the article/redirect. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 17:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I have removed your content from the talk page of this article. Please don't do this, as you can always link to the copy in your userspace instead. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Why on earth do you persist with your fork? Why cannot you go and add your maps to list of World map changes?
File:World map changes 06-8-6.png includes the text "June 8 - August 14". Do you think it would be good idea to include a year as well? Similarly for two other maps. You seem to have forgotten that images should be uploaded to the Commons. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

WHAT IS A FORK????!!?!?!?!? The spesh man (talk) 16:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Content forking.  Frank  |  talk  16:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Alaska Boundary Dispute.png[edit]

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Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone[edit]

Please do not re-title pages and do large amounts of replacing content in articles without discussion with other editors. As it happens there is no valid reason for changing the title of this article to a confusing mixture of UK & US titles. There is also already a redirect from Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone to the main article.

--Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:14, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

File:Space race.png missing description details[edit]

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Removed you RfA for improper formatting[edit]

I removed your RfA. At first i thought you had simply copied the first one at the top for some reason but then i realised that you had simply modified the existing one. For a second or third RfA you are to add a space and number after your user name. Each RfA is to be separate and distinct from those before. There is a place to link to previous RfAs. If you wish to re-file in the proper manner i have no objections. delirious & lost~hugs~ 22:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

  • It's been removed again. If you can't follow the explicit directions at WP:RFA, then you have little to no chance of passing an RFA anyway. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:11, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  • I concur with Beeblebrox. I had a quick look at your contributions, and saw a couple of areas which some editors would count against you:
  1. Editcount: 495 (including 45 deleted): most editors look for 2000+
  2. Article creation: the only 'article' you created was a redirect
  3. "Admin area" editing: despite receiving advice about this in your first RfA, you haven't made any contributions to WP:AIV, WP:ANI, WP:CSD, WP:AFD, WP:MFD, as well as WP:RFA etc.
My advice would be to leave it for longer before considering going for adminship. Read the guidelines about being an admin, and about going for adminship. Re-read the comments left at your last RfA - many of those are still applicable.
Don't lose your enthusiasm - you just are not ready to consider adminship yet. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I second Phantomsteve's advice. You simply do not have the experience required to be an admin at this time. Regular contributions in the areas outlined above will give you the needed experience to successfully pass a future RfA. If you can get about 3,000 edits while showing good knowledge on the various policies, it will reflect better on you. ArcAngel (talk) 22:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)