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G'day[edit]

You're good with all the fiddly, annoying crap I see. List of Essendon Football Club honours might be the closest thing we have to FL. Aaroncrick TALK 05:31, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's really nifty and will probably be worth looking into. (BTW, are you a respond on same talk page person or a respond on each other's talk pages person?) Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 05:42, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Couldn't care less. Might as well keep it on yours - unless you object, of course :) Ah sigs such a pain. Aaroncrick TALK 05:47, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Nah, all good. Some people are different is all. I'm wondering, though, if there would be some way to start up a sub WikiProject of the AFL WikiProject. It might be a bit too much work for not a lot of involvement, though. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 05:48, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
I see your point, but I'm sure it would just become to dormant and too tedious. I wouldn't stand in the way, however I think there's better ways to utilise time. Aaroncrick TALK 05:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Stats tables[edit]

G'day, I see that you've added a stats table to Jobe Watson. Sorry to be blunt, but I really hate them in wikipedia articles, espeicailly for currently active players. Leave them on the link to AFL Tables. They run a database, and it all happens automagically after each game. Ours need manual updating. Most stats are also fluid - up until recently, each paper would publish their own stats, and they'd all be slightly different. They also aren't really that significant - I much prefer to only see games and goals. I'm not going to revert you (unless you start adding them to Freo players!) but I ask you to reconsider what benefit they really provide. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 01:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

The basis for having them is pretty simple: the only modern AFL player to be FA'd is Joel Selwood, and the table is plied from that. If that's the high standard, then so be it. I think there's definitely a huge advantage to have statistical data and biographical information in the one spot, and it's the only real quantifiable way to demonstrate the ebb and flow of a single player's career. Games and goals are readily available in infoboxes, of course. The table is really only the most universal statistics anyway, plus goals and behinds. I would say that they only need to be updated at the end of every season (and to do the whole comp, it would be about 4 hours work at most). As for the varying stats, that much is true, but if FootyWire is an acceptable standard for an FA I don't see why that just shouldn't be the primary source. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 01:50, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Take it to the WP:AFL for a consensus, Pope, but I like the tables. Actually, I don't know how FootyWire got through; I'm not sure it would now... Aaroncrick TALK 10:10, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

New player articles[edit]

G'day ...., Thanks for creating articles for the new players, it's always good to have a basic stub created by someone who knows what they are doing, rather than a first time editor. A couple of suggestions to add to your "standard player article".

  1. Can you please put the stub tag right at the bottom, not above the navboxes - it's in the WP:ORDER guidelines.
  2. Could you add a Category:Australian rules footballers from Victoria or wherever to the category list. We noticed that without this, the players don't always fall under the Category:Australian people tree, as not everyone who is a Category:Collingwood Football Club players is necessarily Australian. So for recursive category searching through the Australian people cat tree, we missed most AFL players.
  3. As some people read WP:BLP in black and white and not shades of grey, not having a properly cited reference to an independent source in addition to the external link can result in some editors tagging it as unreferenced. I disagree with this, but it does happen. The easiest answer is to just find a story in a newspaper about him (generally not hard for most current players) and add it to the first version.
  4. Finally, if you could add the WPBio and WPAust/AFL tags to the talk page, I'd barely even have to look at your new pages!

If you wonder how I find them, I have Special:RecentChangesLinked/List_of_current_AFL_team_squads bookmarked - a very useful page to detect vandalism on current player articles, but it also detects New pages. Thanks again, cheers, The-Pope (talk) 01:40, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely; I always feel a little lazy doing it the way I do it, but I think it's good to just have the article there once the player becomes what would classically be "notable". I'll certainly incorporate that stuff, and thanks for the heads up. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 14:23, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
And what a magnificent win to the Dockers, just quietly. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 14:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
It was a just a little bit mildly enjoyable! Your latest batch (well the one I looked at) looks good, so thanks for continuing to start the stubs and taking my suggestions on board. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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Rookie/pre-season navboxes[edit]

Hey, saw you made a start on making rookie draft and pre-season draft navboxes. Fair enough that you redlinked all the players for the 2012 templates as they're all still on AFL lists, but if you plan on going further back with these it might be a good idea to only redlink guys who played an AFL match or are still listed. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 08:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Yup, that's the plan. I generally think there should either be an article or no link as well - not wild about the redirects to club player lists, since it takes users away from the template (and they have to go back twice to access it again). Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 13:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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VFL/AFL premiership templates[edit]

Hey,

If you're ever looking for something to do, template related, I reckon we should phase out the multiple premiership templates like 1955-57 1959-60 Melbourne Demons premiership players (the most extreme example) and replace them with the individual years. The only reason they were combined originally was to avoid having too many templates on a page, but now I don't think it really matters. What are your thoughts? Jevansen (talk) 08:41, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

  • I'm open to the discussion... I don't mind the condensed format per se, but I do think that you lose information, such as certain teammates and in some circumstances, some premiership coaches which is the ultimate point of said templates. It'd be a good discussion for the WikiProject at large, methinks, rather than any autonomous discussion. I've catalogued all of them here. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 08:47, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the list, that makes things easier. I've started a discussion. Jevansen (talk) 09:29, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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Campbell Brown - Victorian representative game[edit]

Hello, I notice that on 10 September 2011, you added a Victorian representative game to Campbell Brown's article. I'm just curious as to which game you are referring to? Would appreciate your response when you get a chance. Cheers. Melbourne3163 (talk) 04:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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