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Information.svg Thank you for making a report at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention. Unfortunately, your report has been removed due to the username not violating policy, or not being blatant enough for a block. Please remember you should only post infringements on this page if they are so grave that the user needs to be blocked immediately. Others should be discussed with the user in question first, for example using the {{Uw-username}} template. A request for comment can be filed if the user disagrees that their name is against the username policy, or has continued to edit after you have expressed your concern. Thank you.

Claiming that Joan de arc1412 (talk · contribs) is blockable because it is the name of a living person or a recently deceased person when Joan of Arc died in 1431 seems like a poor-quality submission to me. If we expect admins to take our UAA submissions seriously, I think we need to be correct when we assert why a username requires immediate blocking. MKoltnow 17:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Look at this

User was blocked by admin User:Animum.

So next time please look before you put a message like that on my talk page.

Happy New Year! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 18:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually if you look at that diff yourself, you will see that the same admin unblocked that account because it is not a vio. MKoltnow 19:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


what you have made with ryurenjaa's signature? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't get your question! Happy New Year! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 19:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


Hey, that fight song thing might be more complicated than I said! Check out Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Fight songs before doing anything rash! Though I'd still say you'd be insane to include anything that a ref can't be found for. Anyway, good luck, let me know if I can be of any help Peace, delldot talk 13:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

IRC cloak request

I am Thehelpfulone on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/Thehelpfulone. Thanks. -- The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 17:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Your NPWatcher application

Dear Thehelpfulone,

Thank you for applying for NPWatcher! You've been approved to use it. Before you run the program, please check the changelog on the application page to see if there is a newer release (or just add the main page (here) to your watchlist). Report any bugs or feature suggestion here. If you need help, feel free to contact me or join NPWatcher.

Snowolf How can I help? 18:47, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you idiot?

Are you idiot?--Dojarca (talk) 12:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I am not an idiot, when I saw the article it had almost nothing, if you say stuff like that again, it will be classed as a personal attack, and could get you blocked, also don't remove the speedy deletion tags yourself! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) (Review Me!) 12:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
You pu the tag 10 seconds after I created the article.--Dojarca (talk) 12:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Editor review

New messages. Best, Rt. 18:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


Hello i am Osamah i am a new wikipedian here but i have a account on [] and i have a expereince at it...and now i trying to do make something like what i am doing now on ar.wikipedia...hope you like me a accept me like your friend.--Osamahw (talk) 15:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Please retract this warning

It really wasn't justified by the facts of the edits.Kww (talk) 18:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


Remember it has to be substed (and given the parameter u or ip) or it does something unspeakable]. Algebraist 18:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Mel Bampton

Hi, thanks for commenting on my change to the Mel Bampton entry. If you wouldn't mind, would you go back and review your decision to replace all the text I deleted? You will note that it is a word for word reproduction of the text above it. Following your changes, the page clearly looks like a new user's misunderstanding of wiki's editing code.

I therefore suggest we revert to the earlier deletion. Would you mind commenting on this suggested change? I await your response.

Hi, still waiting for your review of the change. Please clarify on this page whether your earlier change was unecessary. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hydeparkblvd (talkcontribs) 17:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Proclamation of Governor Bourke

G'day, I see you've noticed my entry on the Proclamation of Governor Bourke. What I'd like to do is source the link on the Batman's Treaty page to the document on wikisource... which I've now figured out how to do. I spose that was helpful of you, o helpful one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Menswear (talkcontribs) 15:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

A bit more alertness, please

You recently nominated a page named "FUCK FUCK FUCK" for deletion. If you look at the edit history, you see that a vandal actually renamed Wikipedia:Administrators Noticeboard to "FUCK FUCK FUCK". As a result, you nominated the Administrators noticeboard for deletion.Kww (talk) 19:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh, that would explain the warning on User_talk:Ta_bu_shi_da_yu. TBSDY was one of the creators of ANI, not the vandalism page, and has been retired for a few months. Could I ask you to please remove that warning from TBSDY's talk page? Regards.--12 Noon  19:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Removed warning on user page, and now I understand, I also see that it has been move protected, which is great, will stop the vandal. Thanks for telling me! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) (Review Me!) 20:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

You just helped me with my image copyright

Now it shows that it will be delted after today. Please tell what i need to do to fix this.Jnthnchs (talk) 20:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC) Thank you

Indef IP block

Vandalism. Reducing the block. --Myles Long (talk) 19:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism by dynamic IPs

This revert [1] did not go back far enough, leaving this: [2]. May I suggest you use PILT, as an improvement on AVT? It would've caught that. Philip Trueman (talk) 20:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah! That makes sense. I did comment on the risk when I supported the change. [3]. I hope to add intelligent use of MW rollback to PILT, but it may be some time coming. Philip Trueman (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Moose Sheriff

This user has messed up article Bear. Unfortunately I do not have the skills to fix the problem. Please help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guldenat (talkcontribs) 20:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

As you can see... he redirected the page to something ridiculous... and can't move back because Bear still technically exists. Guldenat (talk) 20:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the help. Guldenat (talk) 20:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

You are appropriately named, sir. Guldenat (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Help with Navbox

Hi, thanks for our quick response. I looked at the Navbox page you gave me and its very confusing, I was wondering if you could make me a Navbox :), anykind will do with these links: Userpage;talkpage;editcountpage;sandbox;userboxpage and awardspage(even though I haven't any yet). Thanks much, and I'm sorry if this was the wrong place to post this. edit: forgot to put this at the bottom, sorry :S Baoura (talk) 22:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, thanks alot. The userbox is working well (except a minor situation where my edit page wasn't working, which is now fixed :) .) Baoura (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


The cookies were delicious, thanks. Curious though, to receive a welcome so long after I joined? I've been a member for almost a year, and have a few edits... thanks though, 'tis a nice thought on your part. Guldenat (talk) 17:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Your Sandbox

I checked your sandbox today to get a few tips on how to align the boxes on the left hand side, but to my surprise your sandbox was looking wierd, I checked the history and last person to edit it was you?? Very confused... If this is not your doing, you may want to check out your sandbox. Baoura (talk) 14:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


if there are unwanted comments on my discussion then i can delete them... everyone else does so stop reverting my edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Bad faith edit

Do not stick a silly template making ridiculous accusations of vandalism against me on my talk page ever again as I will post these bad faith allegations of yours to AN/I if you do. Understood? Thanks, SqueakBox 18:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, sounds like there was bad faith but not on your part. I have never used twinkle but if it is generating such bad accusations against good faith vandal fighters then we have a problem and this probably should be posted on AN/I as some more thin skinned or less experienced user might well feel trolled and leave the project. And yes someone moved Brian Eno to Brian Emo and I reverted. To stick templates on anti-vandal users talk pages accusing them of vandalism is simply way unacceptable. Thanks, SqueakBox 18:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Thehelpfulone! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. βcommand 14:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


Thank you very much!--Urban Rose 19:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


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Dear Thehelpfulone, my sincere thanks for your support in my second request for adminship, which ended with 113 supports, 11 opposes, and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank my admin coach and nominator, Rlevse and Ryan Postlethwaite who in addition to Ioeth all inspired me to run for a second candidacy. I would also like to make a special mention to Phoenix-wiki, Dihyrdogen Monoxide and OhanaUnited who all offered to do co-nominations, but I unfortunately had to decline. I had all these funny ideas that it would fail again, and I was prepared for the worst, but at least it showed that the community really does have something other places don't. Who would have though Gmail would have been so effective? 32 emails in one week! (Even if it does classify some as junk :P) I'm glad that I've been appointed after a nail biting and some might call, decision changing RFA, but if you ever need anything, just get in touch. The very best of luck for 2008 and beyond, Rudget. 16:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

User: Electricbanjoman

Could you please explain this? It seems you created another account and welcomed it (Which is really welcoming yourself). Is this an account under policy for security? STORMTRACKER 94 20:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. STORMTRACKER 94 20:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Excess only warning blocks

Hi, please explain your excess only warning warnings on User_talk: A only warning is level 4, which means after one vandalism you should AIV report after the only warning. I would just like to remind you of that. Please answer the question on my talk page.


The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) (Review Me!) 18:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I came here to say the same thing. There are many reasons not to use the only warning notices. One is that they don't work. Another, as seen here, is that they are often not the only warning. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Well, its not really usual two people come in for the same issue at almost the same time. I will give an explanation on this one: Personally i use the vand4im to indicate there has been a warning past the last warning. Usually im using this as a reminder to myself that this user has already been reported, saving me the hassle to report twice. Also, i dont deem it just that anything after the last warning is deemed "Void" since it has already been reported to AIV. I have met several IPs that committed over 20 vandalisms)On the logs), yet only received a 4 warning + ban sequence(On the talk). In those cases future vandal fighters tend to be lenient with IP' s that generally cause a lot of reversion work. By marking them with the amount of vandalisms after the final warning, they will probably go down faster due to higher first warning levels.

    I understand that this one is especially worse, and the amount of vand4im's looks rediculous. Normally there is 1, at most two vand4ims after a vand4 on any IP. This one however, managed to get up to equal performance with manual vandalism, then i could get with automated reversal; Hence, the insane amount of 4ims! I used to use a custom template to tell a user he was on AIAV, but after a recent discussion with another ditor i found out that this template was removed some time ago, which caused me to go back to my usual vand4im sequences.

I hope this explains the situation a bit, and with kind regards, --Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 18:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the user answered the question? Do you get this as I certainly don't, too much waffle! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) (Review Me!) 18:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


  • (Sigh something about being lucky to watch other talk pages)

For the people who DONT understand:
1) User receives level 4 warning
2) User vandalizes again, gets reported.
3) User vandalizes again, warning is already 4, marking as 4im for tracability (tracking Already reported/Warnings not getting lost)
4) IF vandalism.commited.again = true THEN goto 3.
Clear? --Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 18:30, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
But you haven't said why you did so many excess only warning warnings! Just a simple reason is required, and please don't do so many next time! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) (Review Me!) 18:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes i did: Also, i dont deem it just that anything after the last warning is deemed "Void" since the user has already been reported to AIV
In short: Im adding a warning for each offense, regardless the reporting status or the amount of warnings. No single editor ever looks at the user contribution list, let alone doing a diff of the edits they made. All the offences should result in warnings should be on the talk page, to give a complete image of the user. --Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 18:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the notification and the question which you will see I was surprised by. I now have a question. Do you think I should sign my previous answers? I wouldn't want to be seen as "removing evidence". Cheers Victuallers (talk) 21:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry.

Don't worry about Rudget -- apparently it was just his cousin playing a joke with his account when he left his computer on. See AN and his talk page. --Coppertwig (talk) 17:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I have found out on IRC, thanks for telling me though. -- The Helpful One (Talk) (Contribs) (Review) 17:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

My Talk Page

Thanks for adding that Welcome Template to my User Talk Page. I am just curious why you did so? I have been editing for quite some time now. And, coincidentally, I noticed that my contribution count was approaching 10,000 edits. I actually have that Template, but I just moved it to another one of my Pages -- a Sandbox page. This way, I can refer to it when I need to -- but it does not stare me in the face every time I go to my Talk Page. (I rarely use the Template, but I am constantly on my Talk Page.) Just curious. Let me know. At my Talk Page. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC))

Hi, It was just to provide you with some links, so that you can check those before adding a {{helpme}} tag on your user talk page :). The Helpful One (Talk) (Contribs) (Review) 18:36, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
OK. Got ya. Thanks! (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC))

Problem with lupin filter

Hi. Ever since I installed the new Twinkle Javascript I haven't been having trouble with pages being automatically added to my watchlist, but while using Lupin's RC filter, when I try to rollback an edit, I'm required to click the "save page" button now for the edit to process. Do you think that the new script could be causing this and is their anything I can do about it? Thanks.--Urban Rose 03:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== == IRC cloak request == ==

I am Thehelpfulone on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/Thehelpfulone. Thanks. -- The Helpful One (Talk) (Contribs) (Review) 18:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Would this help, it explains what to do and how to activate your cloack →Dust Rider 18:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I just remembered, I added this when filing a request, isn't needed anymore. Thanks! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contribs) (Review) 18:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for your help! Nobody of Consequence (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


I notice you tagged Wavelet transfromation vs fourier transformation as patent nonsense. While a "versus" style article is of course not appropriate for wikipedia, that doesn't mean that the content is patent nonsense. You could have just as easily moved the article to a more appropriate title and attempted to rewrite it, or even left it for others to rewrite.-- (talk) 19:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


I have the mop but can you search the RFA meeting shown to find the bucket?
<font=3> Thanks for your support, my request for adminship passed 60/0/0 yesterday!

I want to thank Mrs.EasterBunny and Royalbroil for nominating me, those who updated the RfA tally, and everyone for their support and many kind words. To paraphrase a president ... I wish my mum and dad could see the comments made. My dad would be so proud to see the comments ... and my mum would have believed them". I will do my best to use the new tools carefully and responsibly (and you may be surprised to find that I have not deleted all of the pages by accident..... yet).

Thanks again, Victuallers (talk) 20:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Dr Johnson - Dictionary writer Boswell - Biographer Sir Joshua Reynolds - Host David Garrick - actor Edmund Burke - statesman Pasqual Paoli - Corsican patriot Charles Burney - music historian Thomas Warton - poet laureate Oliver Goldsmith - writer My co-nominator - majestically hot water? A bucket for you My nominator - a seasonal female married rabbit servant - poss. Francis Barber Play about ... can you find the bucket?
An early RFA meeting to decide if Victuallers can be included as a sysop - use cursor to identify.

Working Man’s Barnstar

Thanks for the help at help desk! FieldMarine (talk) 21:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Anthony Horowitz.jpg)

Nuvola apps important blue.svg Thanks for uploading Image:Anthony Horowitz.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 06:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Personal attack

Please stop personal attacks. this is not nice. --Area69 (talk) 20:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC) Calling my edit unconstuctive or vandalism is helpful? --Area69 (talk) 20:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll remove myself immediately

Thanks to you, I have placed a request to be removed from Wikipedia. Perhaps if I were merely half as good of a Wikipedian as you, I'd be allowed to stay. But the request has already been placed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msharmanos (talkcontribs) 00:12, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Oh, gosh golly gee - I'm such a noob! Where's my four tildes?!? Don't bite the newcomers - kill them! Msharmanos (talk) 00:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandal Fighting

Keep up the good work buddy :) Astral (talk) 17:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll echo that, and I have a related question: what anti-vandal software / scripts do you use? I like that it explicitly lists the actual edit in your auto-generated messages. Thanks, Mlouns (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Black Christmas revert

Thanks for your message re: the reversion of my edits to the Black Christmas entry (quoted below). I assumed that the majority of my changes involved incorporating trivia entries into the body of the article, their constructiveness was pretty obvious, but I'll be sure to provide that informative edit summary you suggest in the future, so it's crystal clear. Your suggestion that I use the sandbox for testing is noted. I will endeavor not to infer any condescension in it, or to take offense at same. I am aware of its presence, and will use it for testing, as you suggest. When I have good-faith contributions to make to particular articles, I will continue to edit the articles directly.

-your message:

"Hi, the recent edit you made to Black Christmas (1974 film) has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. The Helpful One (Talk) (Contribs) (Review) 18:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)" (talk)

Page deletion

I deleted the page because the original author blanked it. Under CSD A7, this is a request for deletion. In any case, a Google search shows it to be a copyvio [4] Sam Korn (smoddy) 20:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Not A7, G7 :P Snowolf How can I help? 16:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


How is that vandalism? I am replicating Category:Interest user templates. (talk) 16:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

My talk page

Please do not revert my edits to my talk page again. --Immanuel can't (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Apologies, didn't see it was a welcome! --Immanuel can't (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Edit Revert

I was just wondering how you came across the page you reverted and then subsequentally reverted back. Thanks. Why did you do this? Obscuredata (talk) 18:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Monster Rancher

I was adding one more character to Monster Rancher thats all (talk) 18:30, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

new to wikipedia

hi i just got your email. u gave me a level 4 warning for 'vandalism' on ghosts (band). i wasnt vandalising, just making mistakes as i'm new to this. i'm not even sure if i'm leaving this comment in the right place! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clairefowler (talkcontribs)


uhhh i was asked to add it by palestine children's relief fund. they will edit i'm sure...


Clairefowler (talk) 18:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


I've changed the colour of my background, is it easier to see this time. →Dust Rider 19:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


Admin mop.PNG Thanks!
Thehelpfulone/Archive/January 2008, thank you for showing your support in my RFA which passed with 38 support, 0 oppose, and 0 neutral! I also want to give special thanks to my Admin Coach and nominator, Useight for all of his help and support. I promise that I'll give my best effort as an admin, and I hope that your confidence in me proves to be justified. If I can ever be of any help, please let me know. In the mean time, I have some cleaning to do.

Have a great day! Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


OK, I was unaware of that. Thanks for telling me.   jj137 (talk) 20:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

It fits your username :)   jj137 (talk) 20:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


My recent edit on Maradona wasn't vandalism! (talk) 21:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

According to this is considered as vandalism diff →Dust Rider 21:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


I'm a wikipedian, But i really wanted to feel wha its like to be a vandal, good luck Thehelpfulone —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

That FIFA PLAYER OF THE CENTURY page is outdated

That FIFA PLAYER OF THE CENTURY page is outdated, full of lies about what happened. Im reporting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wesleyarts (talkcontribs) 22:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


Nice of you to join. :) · AndonicO Hail! 15:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, and I'm on IRC now. · AndonicO Hail! 16:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Please don't...

Huggle is now in the mainspace, not in Gurch's userspace. So please update the list here. D.M.N. (talk) 18:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Admin mop.PNG Thank you for voting in my RfA, which was unsuccessful with 19 support, 18 oppose, and 5 neutral. I have signed up for admin coaching and will retry later on in a couple more months.

I hope that by performing more edits on Wikipedia in the next few months that I could possibly change your mind by my next RfA, possibly around May 2008. I hope your had a chance to review my answers to question #8 on my RfA, which I hope answered most of the concerns regarding my knowledge of WP:CSD#A7. - Jameson L. Tai talkcontribs 05:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


i want to delete my account because i didnt realise my username would be searchable through google etc. how can i do this and create a new one asap?

Clairefowler (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


...for your note on my talk page. Nice of you to say. --barneca (talk) 13:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Please Be Careful

I've seen two unjustified warnings given by you to other editors this afternoon. I recommend you slow down and perhaps remove them. --NeilN talkcontribs 20:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this [5] and this [6]. --NeilN talkcontribs 20:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! --NeilN talkcontribs 21:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

New Comment

hi the veteran newbie... it was not a vandalism; just a warning, an invitation to an expert to correct the obvious mistake... thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)