User talk:Theserialcomma

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Hello, Theserialcomma, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! --Happy editing! Sincerely, Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


I just saw that you want to delete KVIrc after 5 years and 9 month. Seems like you visit every page Tothwolf has edited, and even if he only corrected some upper/lowercase words. That's the spirit. Destroy everything someone you dislike done, No regard to collateral damage, YOU ROCK! -- (talk) 02:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

tothwolf has edited virtually every single IRC article. it's impossible, therefore, to edit an IRC article that doesn't have his minor changes in its history. and i added a notability tag to KVIrc. that doesnt mean it will be deleted, or that it's been nominated for deletion. if you think the article is worthy of inclusion on wikipedia, however, you should add some third party, reliable sources to the article before it does get nominated. as the article stands, i don't believe notability has been established.

-zilla (suffix)

Twinkle did not complete the nomination. Please create the AfD subpage with {{subst:afd2|pg=-zilla (suffix)|cat=I|text=Your reason for deletion}}. Thanks, MrKIA11 (talk) 21:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Ha. Sorry about the bad link. I deleted the page and fixed the header of the correct page. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:36, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
i lol'd when i realized what page i had accidentally created. Theserialcomma (talk) 21:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


Do you know how long the case lasts? Joe Chill (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

i have no idea. past cases seem to have taken around a month, but i don't think that's indicative of this one. i do think it's almost over, but i don't know for sure Theserialcomma (talk) 23:13, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of shell providers


I note that your nomination has been altered by commenting out by Hm2k. This may not be a bad thing but you may want to check your intent has not been altered. The guidance of refactor probably applies here if we AGF by Hm2k withdrawing his/her prior accusation personal attack.—Ash (talk) 11:10, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

i don't think it's appropriate for him to edit my comments. if he has a problem with something i've said, he can take it to ANI. thanks for the heads up. Theserialcomma (talk) 13:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Nurse practitioner

Why did you remove the commonscat template from the above article? Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 17:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

it was inadvertent if i removed anything legitimate. i was trying to undo the sockpuppet's changes Theserialcomma (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I'll readd it. FieldMarine (talk) 20:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi, Theserialcomma I saw your comment about AFD for OptiPNG. I'm afraid the deletion discussion is not closed in error. The discussion is closed as No consensus not Keep. No consensus exactly means what you commented: No valid argument is made, neither in favor of deletion nor in favor keeping. Fleet Command (talk) 19:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

there were no third party, reliable sources presented and the keep arguments were along the lines of "but lots of ppl use it!!!". it should have closed as deleted, since afd is not a vote - it's a collection of arguments based on policy. "lots of ppl use it" is not a policy-based argument.

the keep votes were just that, votes. while it's true that a vote can help establish consensus, the keep votes were not policy-based arguments and should not have been weighed as heavily as the delete votes, which were completely valid, policy-based arguments for the software being non notable. there were no third party, reliable sources presented then, now, or otherwise. it is a non notable piece of software, per wikipedia's standards. the AFD was closed incorrectly Theserialcomma (talk) 20:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


This user keeps reinserting reverted material in which you have reverted without explanation. Perhaps this is a sock? Connormah (talk) 03:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

this is an indef'd blocked sockpuppet who used to edit under the name, which was banned. then he came back under a few different names, which were all subsequently banned. see
Perhaps we should go ahead and report it at WP:ANI? Connormah (talk) 03:43, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
if you don't get to it, i'll do it tomorrow. Theserialcomma (talk) 03:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Please be more careful

You deleted my edit on the MFD. Please be more careful in the future. Killiondude (talk) 19:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

my apologies. it was unintentional Theserialcomma (talk) 19:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
i figured out what happened. apparently we were victims of a bug in the software, which occasionally causes inadvertent deletions during edit conflicts. the only workaround i'm familiar with is refreshing the page completely and trying again Theserialcomma (talk) 20:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
This happens to me ALL THE TIME... well I have been editing here for a couple years now, but this is becoming more and more prevalent as of late and I wish they'd fix whatever bug is causing it. Just throwing my spare change into this convo, don't mind me. JBsupreme (talk) 08:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

AfD behavior

Re. you comment on my talk page. The problem is actually that Joe Chill votes "Delete" on every software-related AfD. He's usually the first vote, and always uses the same stock phrase. Some of these are arguable both ways, but many of them are unanimously "keep", with the single exception of his !vote (well, also with JBsupreme often weighing in the same way, or having made the nom). I think this behavior is generally WP:POINT, and that in the large majority of cases Joe made no effort whatsoever to check notability. In truth, I think JBsupreme has been even more extremist in this regard (and another user Miami31333 who has some sort of vendetta against FOSS); however, JBsupreme, although highly argumentative about conflicting "Keep" !votes, at least uses different words in relation to different article topics.

I don't object that some editors (most even) lean towards a demand for more prominent notability than I do, on software topics. I'm probably moderately inclusionist in general, but I think there is a flaw in applying the same standard to software as to biographies of persons or articles on (minor) corporations. For example, Pohta ce-am pohtit is an editor who has been active in the software AfD noticeboard, and who !votes "Delete" more often than I do. In contrast to Joe Chill, Pcap always states reasons (in either direction) that are specific to the particular nomination, and clearly makes a conscientious effort to locate source... even in those cases where he then concludes that the sources located are insufficient for "Keep". I simply do not believe that JC, JB, and Miami are using judgment--not even with a different underlying attitude--but rather they simply want software (but especially FOSS) articles deleted generically. LotLE×talk 02:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't !vote delete on every software AfD. It would be most of them. I have even saved software articles from deletion multiple especially ones nominated by Miami, JBsupreme, and Smerdis. I always search for sources so stop calling me a liar! Why can't you accept the fact that I disagree with you when it comes to notability? Joe Chill (talk) 02:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, Theserialcomma, to put this on your talk page, since you just made a passing comment on mine. But anyway, to Joe Chill: It would really help if you would stop using the same boilerplate every time. It's fine (as I've said many, many times) if you have a different opinion than I do (about notability, or about anything else), but please try to tailor it to an individual AfD. Do a search or look at the existing refs, and give some explanation for why you feel like those are inadequate. If you say something individual like "These sources are blogs, and therefore not WP:RS" or "This external review seems to have a COI" or something else individual to a topic, then that is genuinely helpful to the discussion. Just to automatically stick in a auto-delete--which might as well be done by a bot--is not cooperative behavior, but indeed seems like WP:POINT. LotLE×talk 02:18, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
You do realize that I'm not here to make every single user that has a problem with me happy, don't you? There are a lot of users that hate how I do things. If I did all of that, I wouldn't act like me anymore. If I try to make everyone happy, I'd be in between deletionist and inclusionist and change almost every single one of my opinions. I will take your advice though. If you ask me to change anything else, screw that (not meant in an uncivil way). I don't !vote delete automatically so please stop with that comment. Joe Chill (talk) 02:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


...on making the New York Times Best Seller List several times in a row!!!

I'm just kidding. and a little drunk.

Cheers, JBsupreme (talk) 08:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Topic banned

You are not welcome to edit my comments on my talk page. [1] You were previously topic banned from my userspace and you should not even be editing there. If you do not stop editing my comments I will push for an interaction ban on the administrators' noticeboard. --Tothwolf (talk) 22:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

  • you certainly don't have the authority to topic ban anyone from anything. you've just been reported for violating your arbcom restrictions[[2]], and part of the process of reporting you requires me notifying you that you've been reported. so if you wish to stop me from notifying you of your imminent block, you should stop violating your restrictions. arbcom has been very unambiguous about your admonishment, and you've been sanctioned accordingly. please act civilly, and don't attempt to fool anyone with fake topic bans which do not exist. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:44, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


I find irony in the fact that Tothwolf only logs in now to harass and stalk the editors he once alleged were stalking him. Its pretty sad really, but quite obvious now when I look at his contributions. (Which I just did as I realized he was following me around a set of articles and undoing my edits.) JBsupreme (talk) 18:10, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

it's also ridiculous that his talkpage has become a soapboax attack page. he links a diff on the top of his page that calls us 'wikistalkers, harassers' and other allegations that arbcom specifically restricted him from saying, but since he is linking an old diff, it's somehow ok. allowing that is one of the most blatant gaming of the system ive ever seen Theserialcomma (talk) 19:13, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

ANI report

I have made a report on the current incident to ANI. I have requested that you and Tothwolf both answer questions regarding the off-wiki email claims. See [3]. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 02:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Reliable source

this is a chat forum, please find citations of a higher quality or simply don't add the content

it's a self published source of uncontroversial information, posted by tucker max to tucker max's own message board. a self published source like this is an acceptable and uncontroversial source for a person's age or middle name. Theserialcomma (talk) 20:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Review Big data CFD

You voted on the delete debate for the original entry Big data that was rm by admins. Please reenter the debate? jk (talk) 04:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 October

Hi, Theserialcomma. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 October, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ (4th nomination). Cunard (talk) 21:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Paul Vunak

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Calling whine one one! Waaaambulance on the way

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Call the Waaaambulance that same old someone had a fit again. There is a ton of whining about us going on with his usual supporters chiming in. It is so nice of the same to give us the required courtesy of letting us know, isn't it? Miami33139 (talk) 04:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi. I'm recruiting people to help me try to remove the blatant promotional tone of Tao Lin, and as you may remember I removed his blogs from the page, per WP:SPAM but it's all back. All the work is undone and it won't revert back! Errg! I'm sure you may have better things to do then fight this uphill battle, but the last thing WP needs is another awful page full of promotions. Any help appreciated!Jimsteele9999 (talk) 22:04, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Tucker Max discussion page

I am a completely new, separate, and non-bias reader to the Tucker Max page and archives. I read through the entire talk page and archive to check and make sure nothing I wanted to add was previously discussed.

Like I said above, I have no idea who you or anyone else on that page is or was, but the following words I would most definitely use to describe your posts, not you yourself obviously, on said discussion page:

Petty, argumentative, hypocritical, obnoxious, arrogant, disruptive, un-encyclopedic, territorial, ad hominem, and the big one; presumptuously declarative

Nothing positive at all came to me from reading your previous posts. I believe if you were to work on your posts not coming off as such, the discussions would be much briefer and less trouble, and you could edit far more easily.

Best regards, Public PC User #767 (talk) 18:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

why is "presumptuously declarative" the big one? i want arrogant to be the big one. Theserialcomma (talk) 01:44, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
On a more personal level, it seems to me that you accept others opinions and criticism well and have a good sense of humor. I am only humbly suggesting that you carry that practice over to all your posts.
Public PC User #778 (talk) 17:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I just read all the serial commas history in tucker max and he discovered tuckers assistant and lawyer was secretly editing tuckers article to remove criticism and whitewashing. The Whole thing is very messy. For example I used to be a mod on tuckers board and he used To ask us to edit this article favorably for him. Peace


For personal attacks, baiting and hounding per the evidence posted on my talk page.

Admins, do not unblock without discussing with me first to make sure you are fully briefed. Jehochman Talk 08:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Block length = 2 x length of prior block for same offense. Jehochman Talk 08:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
block review requested for this bullshit. thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

just so you know, my password has been scrambled and i have a new account. pardon the incivility, but you can go fuck yourself. [REDACTED] did i mention that you can go fuck yourself? thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:33, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Talkpage access removed for abuse. Jehochman Talk 08:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Theserialcomma, I replied to the message you posted at User talk:Amalthea#theserialcomma here. --Tothwolf (talk) 08:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)