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If you're here to respond to something I posted on your talk page, feel free to reply on your talk page so that things can be kept together. I watch talk pages for a while after I've posted comments. If you leave me a message here I'll respond here unless you ask otherwise.

Commons:VPC#Yuri Gagarin statue (UK)[edit]

I have replied to your comment. LGA talkedits 20:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your note to which I have replied. Unfortunately, I find many copyright discussions at Commons and ENWP so uninformed as to be largely irrational and it is better for my state of mind not to get involved in the polemics. Anyway, I have uploaded a photo which, although not as good, may suffice for the time being. Thincat (talk) 20:45, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Forth Bridge discussion[edit]

Thanks for pointing out the BBC News page and current discussion on the Forth Rail Bridge (yuch!) Talkpage. I didn't know that was taking place because it's not a page I watch. I've added my support for a renaming of the page. Kim Traynor | Talk 12:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

C'est la vie! Thanks to you I caught a glimpse of its transitory glory. Kim Traynor | Talk 14:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Profumo affair[edit]

As you were kind enough to add some comments on this article at its PR, you are invited to do likewise at its FAC, now open. Brianboulton (talk) 18:02, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I will but it'll have to be from someone with little experience of the featured article process. I'm very keen on referencing but I don't give a toss about ndashes! I've seen a lot of "your" articles on the way through, however, because I am one of the herd of armchair polar explorers. Thincat (talk) 18:50, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Photo Preservation Discussion[edit]

Thanks for weighing in on one of the deletion discussions concerning San Francisco Library photos of which I was trying to include in an article ( see link below ).
I am once again involved in a deletion discussion while attempting to preserve 2 other photos from the San Francisco Public Library which they had give written permission to Wikipedia to use (link below).
Would you also care to contribute to that discussion as well? Thanx.James Carroll (talk) 12:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Eeeuuuaaaggghhh! If you're interested in rowdy taverns with contradictory illustrations, try Dog and Duck, St George's Fields, which I had quite a bit to do with last year. Maybe put the illustrations on your watch list?! Thincat (talk) 22:58, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
  • User:Stefan2 continues to target photos for deletion which appear in articles where I have made significant contributions.
This time he want to delete a photo from before 1923 which has been used in multiple articles of Wikipedia for 9 years without generating a copyright complaint (link is above). His rational is that there is "no evidence that it was published before 1923."
BTW, the graphics are great in your Duck Baiting article. Wikipedia needs to realize that photos are a necessary asset to the survival of their website. Let me know when you're involved in a photo deletion review. If you’re not moving forward, you're falling behind. James Carroll (talk) 18:00, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


"What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar.png What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For suggesting the saga of a photo of Ezra Pound as an example of the problems arising from use of orphan works. We are using this as one of our examples in Wikimedia DC's comments to the Copyright Office! Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 19:59, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for this. That's really good. It is a worthwhile photo that we know a lot about but the more that was discovered the more it seemed that no definite conclusion could be drawn. Thincat (talk) 20:37, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Something strange[edit]

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I've given them a longer holiday. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 13:25, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

That is one of the strangest things I've seen in a while. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 15:21, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK Poundsbridge Manor[edit]

DYK Nomination for R. Durtnell & Sons[edit]

The nomination is for the secondary topic for this article.

DYK for R. Durtnell & Sons[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:59, 4 May 2014 (UTC) 20:18, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 April 29[edit]

Having gone to the trouble of working out that I was the person that deleted it, did you not think it worth asking me why, before the discussion closed? --Dweller (talk) 16:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Well it hadn't occurred to me actually. I deliberately pinged you in case you wanted to join the discussion but often at DRV people don't want to. I hadn't anticipated the DRV would be closed so soon afterwards but I could have realised that it might happen. Looking at it now I can see that my attempt at a ping might look as an attempt to single you out. I certainly hadn't intended that and if I did gave that impression I apologise. In my view the trouble was caused at two ANI discussions a month or so earlier. Thincat (talk) 18:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
I don't mind about being singled out, I just didn't see the ping, as I've not been active for the last week or so. There were some unusual issues around that page (I'm wearing my bureaucrat hat, now), but it's done now and I'm not keen to kick off another Streissand by removing what has been restored. Never mind. --Dweller (talk) 21:49, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Robert M. Bond[edit]

I made some additions and tightened up the sourcing, partly as a result of your perceptive comments at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert M. Bond. I thought you might be interested to see. It is so much preferable to have a paper copy of the book rather than using GBooks or Amazon. Thanks again for your trouble in reviewing it. --John (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I've now read it again and you've made a lot of changes. He was an accomplished man. I wonder if he was generally foolhardy (it doesn't seem so) or whether he just made a terrible mistake. BTW reviewing your article has started me using {{sfnp}} so thank you for that! I have been using {{sfn}} for a while now but {{sfnp}} is more harmonious. Thincat (talk) 20:33, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Norman Heathcote[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 08:57, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


I really have no business here, but I just have to say that your article about the 1921 British Mount Everest reconnaissance expedition is just awesome! :) I really enjoyed reading it. I stumbled upon it while checking out the talk page of Philg88. His page always attracts interesting things and since I'm a newbie I learn a lot just by hanging out there. And I pick up the occasional tidbit. Thanks! Best - W.carter (talk) 20:53, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

That's very kind of you indeed. I found reading up about the whole thing absolutely fascinating (more interesting, actually, than "did Mallory reach the top in 1924?") and maybe this comes through. I was really lucky to find such an unfilled gap in WP. Thincat (talk) 21:01, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Change to EB1911[edit]

Please see Template talk:EB1911#ref=harv -- PBS (talk) 21:17, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2014 August 16#File:Hearts XP.png[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2014 August 16#File:Hearts XP.png. Thanks. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 18:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

What does ref=none do ?[edit]

Hi there, thank you for your help at article Adrianne Wadewitz.

What does "ref=none" do?

Thanks again,

Cirt (talk) 00:44, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

@Cirt: {{citation}} by default creates an anchor for itself so that inline references can link to it. See Template:Citation#Anchor. However, the two "works" I edited are not linked to from elsewhere in the article. This is not normally any sort of problem (it shouldn't be). However, for people like me who have error messages turned on you get great ugly errors such as Harv error: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREF2013. These used appear for everyone until they were suppressed following a discussion, RFC or something.[1] Putting in "ref=none" removes the anchor and so also removes the error message.[2] Why do I have error display turned on? It isn't so I can go around making changes like this but it is because when I create an article I want to leave it clear of referencing errors to avoid other people coming to "correct" them and making other undesirable changes at the same time. Error messages are turned on with Javascript "importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js');".[3] Thincat (talk) 07:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Ah okay, thanks very much for the friendly explanation! — Cirt (talk) 11:48, 18 September 2014 (UTC)


thanks for the quick catch; I've fixed it, (I hope, if not, please amend as needed). I have obviously been staying up too late. DGG ( talk ) 09:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VideoPad[edit]

Hi Thincat. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 September 28#VideoPad, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VideoPad. Cunard (talk) 00:39, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library - ScotlandsPeople - You've got mail[edit]

Hello, Thincat. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Philg88 talk 11:15, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Graham Russell Mitchell[edit]

Hello Thincat, Just wanted to say thank you for creating the Graham Russell Mitchell article. I had been meaning to start an article, but have never seemed to make the time! Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 17:14, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I recently created an article on Jane Sissmore and Mitchell was an irritating red link. Thincat (talk) 17:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


Hello again Thincat, Many thanks for all your recent edits. My only problem is your recent edit to MI5. I am given to understand that Burke Trend's report on the Hollis case did not clear Hollis, but found the case against him unproven - a long way from clearing him. Chapman Pincher's last two books seem to confirm this. Your comment and advice are very welcome. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 21:39, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I think you are right – please change it or I will when I can get things clear in my mind. I merely added Mitchell's name and left unchanged the "cleared" claim regarding Hollis. I am re-reading Spycatcher (I dislike the book) and Wright has a lot to say about the investigation of Mitchell and he clearly concludes that Mitchell was not the mole. Nigel West thought Mitchell was the mole but no one seems to understand why he thought this, except to be different from Chapman Pincher. I have Christopher Andrew's immense book out from the library right now and it is very concerning how much he omits. I'm finding it very hard to accept what Andrew says in the introduction that very little is being held back any more. His account seems OK up to WWII but after that it come across to me as too much of an apology. Thincat (talk) 22:14, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Done. Very much agree with you regarding Christopher Andrew's book - far too much left out or glossed over. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 22:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Don't forget to add {{subst:ncd}}[edit]

Don't forget to add {{subst:ncd}} when you move a file to Commons, as you did with File:Aguja Saint Exupery.jpg. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:06, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll use your note to remind me which template to use. Thincat (talk) 11:41, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Geoffrey Bruce (mountaineer)[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Your oppose of Sarek[edit]

I don't understand it. There's no limit on the numbers of admins. If his RfA succeeds, it doesn't stop others coming forwards. But unsuccessful RfAs are likely to make people think twice about running. P.S. please excuse this gentle badgering.--Dweller (talk) 09:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I rarely vote at RFA and I thought a lot about this before opposing. I think most (nearly all?) editors would make perfectly good admins if they were willing to stand and were interested in doing at least one aspect of the work. The problem is we don't know in advance who won't be good (which is why I don't vote normally). And we usually can't throw out the bad apples even when a lot of people think they are bad. See how long the recent case took (years) to get resolved and I can immediately think of three other unresolved cases (though I've been around a long time). In the present situation I think an awful thing was done, far worse than most people would do and I'm rather disappointed that so many people seem not to mind too much. Of course people can improve but other people don't need to reform. I think an editor picked at random would probably not be so abusive. I tried hard not to be unpleasant in what I said but an oppose is inevitably not complimentary. Thincat (talk) 13:53, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I wouldn't have commented on an uncomplimentary oppose (in fact, I haven't) just one that didn't appear to make any sense. What you've written above is completely different from what you wrote at the RfA. Were you just trying to be gentle? If so, don't be because a) the candidate can clearly cope with it and b) from experience, I can say that the closing bureaucrat needs to know how to weigh your !vote, and if you've misrepresented your opinion that's not good. Anyway, thanks for replying. --Dweller (talk) 14:06, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I wondered whether you had misunderstood and, since I now realise that you did, obviously other people will have done likewise. Yes, I was trying to be gentle and I must have tried too hard (or not very well!). I'll consider changing my rationale but I'll probably end up leaving it. BTW I didn't mind you asking at all and it didn't come across as badgering in the slightest. Thincat (talk) 14:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for admin?[edit]

Oh, and have you ever considered turning this redlink, blue? --Dweller (talk) 14:41, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Years ago, when reaching 2000 edits meant you were rather likely to be asked, I deliberately reduced my editing to avoid it! So, I suppose the answer is "yes" and, again, "no"! Thincat (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I've not done a thorough trawl through your murky back history of diffs, but your willingness to discuss and avoid conflict bode well. If I think you'd make a good candidate, would you accept a nomination? --Dweller (talk) 14:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
No, not thorough enough to spot my vandalism ([4]). There really isn't any aspect of admin work that appeals to me and I don't feel any strong sense of duty either. So no, but thank you. Thincat (talk) 15:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
LOL! --Dweller (talk) 15:20, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


Bucky Badger headstand on ice.jpg The anti-badger award
The anti-badger award is hereby made to User:Thincat for being gentle on RfA candidates and badgers alike. Dweller (talk) 14:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

A page you started (1935 British Mount Everest reconnaissance expedition) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating 1935 British Mount Everest reconnaissance expedition, Thincat!

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A pie for you! Awesome work![edit]

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg Thank you for your contributions at Coxs Corner, Monmouth County, New Jersey. Tinton5 (talk) 02:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Affair of the Dancing Lamas[edit]

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COI disclosures[edit]

I thought you might be interested in this discussion, because we talked about it quite extensively at some point in the past and it was an interesting conversation. CorporateM (Talk) 20:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Article for Deletion/Keeping[edit]

Hey hope you are doing well. There is a page you have contributed to that is being considered for deletion: List of Christian Nobel laureates. You are welcome to put in any input on the issues by going to the page and clicking on the link for that article. Jobas (talk) 14:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Category:Order of the Netherlands Lion and subcategories relisted[edit]

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ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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Second RM for Southern Apls[edit]

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Debate on the Hadith[edit]

articles like this: Debate on the Hadith, are the main reason i still bother to donate my money to wikipedia. YdhaW has done an excellent job compiling these critically important areas within islamic schools of thought and teaching- into a single coherent article. considering the article was very recently created it will undoubtedly need refinement over the weeks and months to come, specifically the opening statements of the article, and the section "whats next?", should be rephrased to fall more inline with the encyclopedic standards wikipedia seeks to maintain. thank you Thincat for restoring the article and bringing attention to it here, - The5thForce (talk) 15:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind message. As I've said I don't know anything about the subject but I hope something worthwhile can be achieved here. Unfortunately, I will not be able to contribute to the article in any informed way. Thincat (talk) 17:11, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cairngorm Plateau Disaster[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 26 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cairngorm Plateau Disaster, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that five schoolchildren and their leader's assistant died in a blizzard in the 1971 Cairngorm Plateau Disaster when they failed to reach the Curran shelter in the Scottish Highlands? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cairngorm Plateau Disaster. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cairngorm Plateau Disaster), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Black Canyon High School[edit]

Regarding Black Canyon High School, Thanks for catching my error of using WP:NOTYET. What I actually meant was WP:TOOSOON. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:06, 30 September 2016 (UTC)