User talk:Thine Antique Pen/FULLTALK

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Signature

I was looking at a formatting problem at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback, and I think it is caused by your signature - it starts with a "div" and a "font", and ends with "/div" and "/div". This is going to cause formatting problems on every page that you sign. I have fixed it.

Please also look at Wikipedia:Signatures. Your signature contravenes the instructions in the "Transclusion of templates" section on that page. This needs fixing for the reasons explained there. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:02, 12 October 2011 (UTC) revised 06:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Your goals

Your userpage says "I am trying to get my edit-count larger so I can try to get a higher level of rights."

That's not how it works, Tom. You're assigned higher levels of rights on the basis that you're considered to need them, and to show that you can be trusted with them. Simply 'having a high edit-count' is not a criterion. DS (talk) 14:00, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

User:DragonflySixtyseven, most levels of rights do require a certain number of edits, because last time I saw Administrator was 2500+.
Here's an analogy. To be eligible to be President of the United States, you must be at least 35 years old. But being 35 doesn't mean you have a significantly increased chance of becoming President, and carefully counting how many days left until your 35th birthday so you can get elected... that's just stupid. Yes, the analogy is flawed - "President of the United States" is much more important than "Wikipedia admin", for one thing, and you can't artificially increase your age the way you can increase your edit count. But I hope you get the point. Don't edit to increase your edit count. Edit because it needs to be done. Edit because it bothers you that a detail is wrong or that a sentence is badly worded. Edit because you see a way that a page can be made better. That's the only real point. DS (talk) 18:04, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Ronan Parke BGT.jpg

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What You See Is What You Get (book) and stubbing

Hi, Please remember that {{stub}} tag goes at the end of an article, not the start (see WP:FOOTER), and take care not to add it to an article like this which already has a sorted stub tag (if you put your stub tag in the right place it's easier to spot that there's already one there!) Thanks. 85.211.13.188 (talk) 20:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Ronan Parke Album Cover.jpeg

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It has the info. User:Tomtomn00/Signature

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Reverted your revision [1] to Ronan_Parke_(album)

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Non-free files in your user space

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Your signature

Hi. Your signature is really messed up. Please fix it, regards, Matthewedwards :  Chat  04:12, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Seconded, error noticed at Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 05:52, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


Your GA nomination of Gimingham

The article Gimingham you nominated as a good article has failed Symbol unsupport vote.svg; see Talk:Gimingham for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article.

Page protection

Myself and another admin have responded to 3 of your page protection requests at WP:RFPP, and I figured I'd give you some more detailed info here. Two of the requests you made, Gimingham and File:Gimingham Church, Norfolk.jpg, were for pages that had no history of disruption. Because our overall policy on Wikipedia is that we should be as open for editing, including editing by anonymous IP editors, as possible, we don't semi-protect or move-protect articles unless there is evidence of past vandalism on the articles. Or, as we often say at RFPP, "Pages are not protected preemptively". Under the same basic principle on Ronan Parke, you asked for indefinite semi-protection. It is quite rare that we would make our very first protection to an article to be indefinite. That's why I only dropped on a 1 week protection; if the vandalism resumes after that time, we can try a longer protection, and if it still resumes, we can eventually go up to indefinite.

I hope this helps you understand the protection system a little more; let me know if you have any questions. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Your RfA

Hi there. I just removed your RfA as it was improperly formatted. Before you rush to put it back, I wanted to advise you against running at this time. Your first edit was 21 September 2011, less than two months ago. No user has ever had a successful RfA with only two months of experiance. You are likely to get a half dozen opposes in rapid succession, each claiming, with various levels of politeness, that it is too soon for you to run.

Please continue to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, and consider running again in six to ten months, as 8 to 12 months on Wikipedia is at the low end of where people start to be successful with RfAs.

If you're looking for things to do, please read this page, which lists many, many constructive things that need doing.

Sorry to step in like this, Sven Manguard Wha? 16:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Addendum: In the time that I took to write this, two people already opposed the RfA, both citing the page I linked to above. Please don't take any of this personally. As I said, no one has ever received the mop after just two months. Sven Manguard Wha? 17:02, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

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FAR page

Hi Tomtom - As you have probably noticed, your featured article review nomination page of the University of Cambridge has been deleted. This was mainly because the page had almost no content, and was deemed to be a "test page". However, I wanted to leave a note here about some technicalities. The featured article review process is for articles that have already been promoted to featured article status and need to be reworked to bring them back up to featured quality, or they have their featured status removed. The featured article candidacy process is probably the one you are looking for, as that is the process which allows articles to be promoted to featured article status. You may also be interested in looking at the featured article criteria, which are what candidates for featured status are judged against. Please let me know if you have any questions, Dana boomer (talk) 17:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Aylsham High School

Hey! I just reverted some edits you'd made to this page. I'm concerned, more than anything, that you probably want to go and read the guidelines for schools articles at WP:WPSCH/AG, in particular what not to include at WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI. I think this is particularly true of uniform stuff. The notes at Template:Infobox UK school may also be helpful - I'd be wary of stating any ofsted grading in the infobox myself without sourcing. As much as anything this is both likely to change and can be seen as promotional. I'm sure there's good, third party sourced, stuff that can be put into the article btw so go ahead with that sort of thing, no worries. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:08, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Non-free rationale for File:Ronan Parke Album Cover.jpeg

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Steve Jobs

Hello Tomtomn00, I just reviewed the Steve Jobs article against the GA criteria. There were several statements that are not sourced, and as a result, I will not pass it at the moment, though I am not going to fail it, unless there is no significant effort to fix my issues. You can read about that and the other issues I have on the GAN here. Regards, --12george1 (talk) 02:20, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Carlin GAN

I'm pausing the review at Talk:George Carlin/GA1 to see if you or someone else is up for fixing the indicated problems. There are more problems that I have not yet listed but the ones I listed are enough to sink the GAN if nobody steps forward and does the work. Just FYI!

Strange connection: two weeks ago I saw Kelly Carlin McCall do a one-woman stage show about her life and her relationship with her famous daddy. It was interesting: challenging and funny. Some fantastic clips were played of old Carlin routines on TV and stage. I had never seen young Carlin with short hair; the straightnik comedian look. Binksternet (talk) 05:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

GA mentoring

Hi. I noticed your name on the list of GA mentors in topic areas that may be of interest to me. I am willing to help review GA articles as noted at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations#Talk:Ely, Cambridgeshire/A1 if you are willing to ride shotgun :) --Senra (Talk) 12:17, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tomtom. While it is great that you are keen and we do need more Good Article mentors it is important that they have some experience with the process before they start giving advice. I would suggest removing your name from the list until you have passed or reviewed some more articles. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 22:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

FAC withdrawal

I appreciate that you are acting in good faith, but it is best if featured articles are nominated by people who have worked closely on them. In this way, they can give reasoned replies to reviewers and be familiar enough with the sources to act on suggested improvements. Someone who has not worked on the article can not provide this input, so the nomination may continue until opposition to it becomes so overwhelming that the article is failed; this takes away time from reviewers. While the Christmas article is of reasonable quality, it is not yet of featured quality, and principal contributors must be consulted before a nomination, as required in the featured article candidate instructions.

Also, this is your second out-of-process nomination; please read the FAC instructions and refrain from nominating ill-prepared articles. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Arthur Kern for deletion

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Your signature

Please read WP:SIG—the use of templates in signatures is prohibited, and your signature should not take up multiple lines. Would you mind modifying yours to bring into compliance with the guideline? Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:31, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Done ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:58, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:11, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Page protection requests

I have declined a number of your protection requests at Requests for page protection today as a review of the various article histories show very little disruption. Please review Wikipedia:Rough guide to semi-protection prior to making any further requests in order to ensure you understand in which situations admins will apply protection. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 19:29, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Roblox Wiki

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Section Tags

Hello Tomtomn00. I've been cleaning out the backlog of articles tagged with the "Divide into sections" maintenance tag for the past six months. I'm curious as to why you've been attaching the tag to extremely short articles (Kamunyuini, Mesua daphnifolia, Tarnawka Druga, Bamulia, Mount Synge). These are all articles of one sentence and cannot be divided into sections; I've removed the tag. The tag is typically (but not solely) used when an article is at least two or three paragraphs long (see Doing Difference, Samuel Hutton, Parallel parking). Can you help me understand your rationale? Thanks. JimVC3 (talk) 03:56, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


Talking to 'bots' on wiki

It fascinates me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LuLuPress (talkcontribs) 21:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

LuLuPress, sign your posts. I also did them welcomes manually. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Section Tags (Repost)

Hello Tomtomn00. I've been cleaning out the backlog of articles tagged with the "Divide into sections" maintenance tag for the past six months. I'm curious as to why you've been attaching the tag to extremely short articles (Kamunyuini, Mesua daphnifolia, Tarnawka Druga, Bamulia, Mount Synge). These are all articles of one sentence and cannot be divided into sections; I've removed the tag. The tag is typically (but not solely) used when an article is at least two or three paragraphs long and has enough different topics so that sections are truly of benefit (see Doing Difference, Samuel Hutton, Parallel parking). Can you help me understand your rationale? Thanks.JimVC3 (talk) 03:49, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

The are the same articles which another user pointed out. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:46, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

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Slow down please!

Your tagging of articles is in many instances incorrect. An article that has links that verify article content is not unreferenced - supporting material does not need to be listed under a section explicitly titled "references" in order to be referenced random example 1, random example 2. In addition, you added this incorrect tag as well as this one this one to Thomas Calter. How is the Dictionary of National Biography a primary affiliated with Calter? What type of copy-editing do you suggest the article needs? Why did you tag this perfectly acceptable stub for copy-edit? I strongly suggest that you seek adoption from a more experienced editor - I applaud your enthusiasm, but you're working much to fast without actually understanding the guidelines for the tasks you're trying to accomplish. Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Based on this completely incorrect tagging I have to ask that you stop adding clean-up tags from articles altogether until you either find someone to adopt you who can walk you through the process, or you can demonstrate that you are capable or understanding the clean-up templating guidelines and the nuances involved. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Tomtomn00/E=mc²

A tag has been placed on User:Tomtomn00/E=mc², requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia for multiple reasons. Please see the page to see the reasons. If the page has since been deleted, you can ask me the reasons by leaving a message on my user talk page.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 12:03, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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Hello

For a 12 year old, you've been to an awful lot of countries and know a *lot* of programming languages? (going by your userpage ;) ). Anyway, I went through some of your reports to WP:AIV, WP:UAA and WP:RFPP recently, and I had to decline some of those reports. Wii Sports for example, which you asked for protection, didn't require protection; and being an FA doesn't merit any special protection, for protection is given on basis of the amount of vandalism on the page. You are on the right track though, keep up the good work! Lynch7 17:19, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

STiki

How do you explain that? — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 17:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Note

All users are expected to be co-operative. Ignoring everyone who tries to talk to you, especially to question your edits, and removing their messages, isn't going to get you very far. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 18:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I archive my talk roughly the same time daily. I cannot explain that matter well, but I classed it as section blanking, using STiki. Also STiki only shows the modified sections, not the whole page so I could not see the redirect.~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:32, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Do you really think it's a good idea to create a new archive page every day? Most users have like a ton of messages on each archive page, you seem to have like two or three on each. Are you under the impression that having a lot of talk archives makes you look like a more experienced user? Because I can't think of any other explanation for that. It's just silly, and not very useful when trying to find anything.

You can set a bot to do automatic archiving for you, instructions here: User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. (Basically all you'll need to do is add a piece of code to the top of your talk page.)

And PLEASE be more careful with STiki. Whatever you do with it is YOUR responsibility. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 18:48, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage

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Hi, Thine Antique Pen, you'll likely not be pleased about this but a trusted user has suppressed a number of edits to your userspace which reveal too much personally identifiable information about yourself. I've done this per policy and for your own protection and safety on-line as you are a self-declared minor. I'm really sorry about that and I know it's annoying, but it's for the best. Please don't re-add it. For some useful information on privacy and safety, take a look at Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. Thanks, and sorry for messing about with your pages

Frood! Ohai What did I break now? 21:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I have removed that section on User:Tomtomn00/userpage1 and would like my userpage and it's semi-protection restored, if possible. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't do that, you'll have to ask one of the oversighters to restore it. It's my personal policy that I try to have minors' information removed from the website if there's enough to potentially identify them. Frood! Ohai What did I break now? 21:35, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Do you know who removed it? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:42, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Your edits to User:Tomtomn00/userpage1 and User:Tomtomn00 have been placed even beyond the sight of admins. Frood made the request for them to be hidden via e-mail and Frood may well not know who did the suppression. Any request by you to have them restored is likely to be refused point-blank. But a request to have selected content e-mailed to you will probably be accepted. But acceptance will come with a stern warning not to publish the content again on Wikipedia. Make your request via one of the methods described here. Incidentally, there is no point in requesting semi-protection until there is evidence that your page has been subject to vandalism. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Use of STiki

Please be more careful with what you do with STiki, since you are still fully responsible for your actions, even if a semi-automated tool was used. Rollback should only be used in cases of obvious vandalism. In situations where it is not obvious, it's best to manually undo it with a reason. I'm not sure why you thought it was a good idea to restore this, which is just a bunch of badly formatted meaningless material that is likely to be copy/pasted from somewhere else. Netalarmtalk 21:35, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Short mackerel

I have no idea what you are talking about here. Have you? Also, please don't template the regulars --Epipelagic (talk) 23:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Pol430

I don't know if you've looked at the responses to your "oppose" at this RfA, but I think you should, and I think you should take the comments to heart. Opposing someone because they didn't every day of their lives, or didn't make as many edits as you did in a day, that's not an opinion that anyone will take seriously. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit rate has absolutely nothing to do with experience. Note that Pol430 responded "I too am a bit confused as to why my edit/day rate makes me unsuitable to be an admin. The rate at which I edit varies. The reason I miss some days altogether, is that I have a full time job outside of Wikipedia" to your oppose. I think your oppose is really, really, unacceptable and something no one would take seriously. I'm not saying that you should indent it or do anything, I'm just saying you need to give more constructive opposes in the future. Thanks. Bmusician 03:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Inappropriate edit summaries.

While using STiki, I note that you are continuing to use the same edit summary, (Reverted edit(s) by Foo identified as test/vandalism using STiki) irrespective of what you have reverted, including good edits and good faith edits. This, as I have already explained on my talkpage, with examples, is counterproductive. By all means use this edit summary when it is can only be vandalism but you are not even considering good faith. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 06:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Quantum Sheep

Please see the Quantum Sheep talk page. Your assertion of vandalism is unjustifiable. 121.45.201.66 (talk) 13:22, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity.........

Hey, Tomtomn00, I recently noticed the user boxes you put up on your page. It shows that you're an professional Java programmer, C++ programmer, HTML programmer. Why aren't you creating scripts? If you do create one, submit it here. One for a minor note, thanks for using my Edit Count tool, and congrats! (bcoz of the edit rate you're having each day.) Dipankan says.. ("Be bold and edit!") 14:27, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I spend most of my time on random projects for ICT to show off to my teacher! Also, would you say 110-578 edits per day is good for me? (~578 on Saturday) ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:37, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Stop counting your daily edits, that isn't a useful criterion. Better yet, try limiting yourself to 15 edits per day. If you only have 15 edits, you'll put a lot more time into making them accurate and meaningful. MBisanz talk 19:51, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
It doesn't matter about edit numbers, it's just my personal notice the fact I count it. If I make 500, it may recover for the 1 year 3 months I didn't make any edits, which could make it average out around 15 edits per day. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
You're missing my point so badly, I can't tell if you are trying to be difficult. You can count your edits and advertise it however you desire; no one will stop you. Nearly everyone though will question your judgment and maturity as an editor though for counting your daily edits in that manner. As you appear to desire the community aspects of Wikipedia, exhibiting behaviors that do not conform with community norms will not help to advance your goal. MBisanz talk 20:05, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
If you desire to be an admin, the main thing people are looking for is clue. Edit count is a secondary measure to clue. Slow down, be sensible and you'll be fine. Wikipedia isn't a competition, it's an encyclopedia. Listen to people like MBisanz and you'll learn a lot. —Tom Morris (talk) 20:10, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sure, I am going to have to slowly cut back on edits, due to the amount of homework I am getting now (Mostly large projects) - I will see this as an oppitunity to slow down a bit. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:14, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest you having a Wikibreak. You're over-enthusiastic, that's great, but definitely you need to slow down. Dipankan says.. ("Be bold and edit!") 03:30, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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publishing an article on wikipedia

Hi Tomtomn00,

My name is hkal777, I have just created an article, it is in my talk and I would like to post it on wikipedia, however, I am going in cycles and ending up in my talk and sandbox but I am not able to put my article on wikipedia for public.

Could you help me?

Thank you, hkal777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkal777 (talkcontribs) 11:20, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

You don't own the article - DO NOT SAY 'In a recent interview with the author of the article... the author of the article spoke to' or something like that. Break it into sections like ==External Links== at the bottom - or ==Description== or ==Personal Life==. Also, sign your posts with 4 tides - ~~~~. Thanks - ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:59, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
sorry, was this meant for me? I am afraid I don't know what it is about :"In a recent interview with the author of the article..." - I have only referred to emails from the director and also what should I break? "Break it into sections like ==External Links== at the bottom - or ==Description== or ==Personal Life==". What is a tide? "sign your posts with 4 tides"?

I am very confused whit this language and feel desperate because I am trying to post this article the whole day and am not able to get any help I would understand...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkal777 (talkcontribs) 17:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

A tide is a ~. Doing four of them (~~~~) puts a signature after your post. I will edit a copy and show you what I would do it like, I won't edit yours. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

ok, there are the citations now, I see now what you mean whit tides, is there now as well........ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkal777 (talkcontribs) 17:24, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

How about this: User:Tomtomn00/PA_Test_13.03.2012? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Tom, maybe you should read about reliable sources and original research as well. A private e-mail can not be used as a source, and that one website does not appear to be a reliable independent source. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 17:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I have. I'm just doing a basic start on the article. If the interview was published on a blog or somewhere else on the web, I would reference it properly. However I wouldn't think of starting this article about a person without more sources, also mainly because about 90% of the things that need to be sourced, aren't. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:47, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tom, Thank you very much for your constructive help! I have added some more sources, however they are mostly not in English. Is it a problem? How many sources such an article need? I will be back in a few hours. Hkal777 (talk) 18:31, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Depends what it is. If it's a short stub, then about 2/3. If it's as long as that I'd say about 4/5. Extremley long (example; United Kingdom) would be 100+. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, Tomtomn00 and Hkal777. I saw your conversations and though I might be able to help. Before we go any further, I would suggest that you both read Wikipedia:Your first article which has some very sound advice on writing an article. While you are reading it, make sure that the subject you are writing about really is notable enough for an article - if it is not, the article will probably end up being deleted quite soon. Once you've established that, I would suggest you rewrite the lead with WP:LEAD in mind. The lead needs to encompass everything that is already in the article, in summary form. Anything in the lead that is not in the main body of the article needs to be in the main article. Whenever I write articles, I tend to write the main article first and then do the lead, to ensure a good summation. Does that make sense? If you need any further advice, just let me know. If you like, I can review the article before you publish it to ensure that it is ok - let me know if you would like that. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 18:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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Check it please. User:Tomtomn00/PA_Test_13.03.2012 (revised version). ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
I can see no changes since I made my last comment. Have a read of the two guidelines I gave you - the main improvements you need to make are expanding the body of the article and rewriting the lead. Have a look at Kroger Babb as an example of a good media biography article.
Tomtom, on a different note, do you have my talkpage on your watchlist? If not, can I suggest that you do, so that I don't have to keep using talkback templates here? Thanks. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 19:21, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
I am watching your page, yes. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Hkal777 (talk) 20:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi TomTomm and ItsZippy, I have had a proper read of the links you provided in the text above and even though I still believe this director is a noticeable person I would love to work on the article about her. Do I need to get more info for the main body or would it be enough to rewrite it and get more references? And I need to rewrite the lead. However, I have an essay and dissertation outline to hand in on Monday, so it is not the most convenient time for me to work on it. @ItsZippy: thank you very much for your kind and helpful advice! @TomTomm: Thank you very much for helping me to understand how to format the written! Without you two guys, if I would be communicating with Jeraphine Gryphon only, I would never be back, she should stop telling people off, it does not improve image of your community, seriously....... Kind regards, hkal777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkal777 (talkcontribs) 10:06, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Don't knock Jeraphine. She has been trying to help. Please note that the ~ is called a tilde. Suggestion: create cs:Janka Ryšánek Schmiedtová. If that article survives for three months, then come here and publish the English version. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes that is a good idea, thank you! And I will try to dig out more articles in English. Might be Jeraphine wanted to help, but not in a very friendly way. I felt more she wants to get rid of me, as I have mentioned before, if there would be communication only with Jeraphine, I would definitely not come back and would advise anybody else rather never come in touch with wiki community..... But I am back, you see :-) Thanks again! Hkal777 (talk) 20:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Bradkill2

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Okay. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Picture of a Bird at Banham Zoo for my userpage.jpg

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Re: Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

Greetings! I've replied to your comment at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage, to which I'll add that being declined for access to extra tools isn't a measure of your value to the project—you do lots of good work—it only means you should consider honing your skills and judgement in your areas of interest before re-applying. Take your time, be careful and ask if you're not sure. Tyrol5 [Talk] 21:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

BRFA

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Sections template

I'd like to ask again your rationale for continuing to add the "sections needed" template to extremely short articles such as Camelot (State College, Pennsylvania), First United Methodist Church (Ilion, New York), Henry of Groitzsch, and Roman Catholic Diocese of Nha Trang. The template is typically (but not always) used to navigate through longer articles that the reader cannot easily see on the screen. These articles, at lengths of three or four sentences, do not fall in this category. I've removed the templates. JimVC3 (talk) 23:17, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I was once told that it was for articles that had at least two paragraphs in the lead. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 09:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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Hi there, Tomtomn00. I've just got back from a short trip and wanted to pop by to see how you are. How are things going for you at Wikipedia at the moment? If there's anything you need, please let me know. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Not perfect, I'll email you with the details if possible. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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I'd like to ask again your rationale for continuing to add the "sections needed" template to extremely short articles such as Camelot (State College, Pennsylvania), First United Methodist Church (Ilion, New York), Henry of Groitzsch, and Roman Catholic Diocese of Nha Trang. The template is typically (but not always) used to navigate through longer articles that the reader cannot easily see on the screen. These articles, at lengths of three or four sentences, do not fall in this category. I've removed the templates. JimVC3 (talk) 23:17, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I was once told that it was for articles that had at least two paragraphs in the lead. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 09:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it's really not that simple. As I noted in my original post, sections are meant to help users navigate through longer articles that fill more than one screen and to assist users in finding material. Even if an article is two or three brief paragraphs, sections may not be needed and could even hinder navigation. For example, the articles on Paul Pate and Stephen Yurkovich which you tagged are too short for sections. On the other hand, the articles on Keith Lockhart and BBC Concert Orchestra probably could use sections. I wish there was an absolute rule to follow, but there isn't. If you'd like to get a better idea of the use of the sections template, check the listed articles in the backlog of articles needing sections for November 2011 and December 2011. Not every single one of these is appropriately tagged, but most of them are good examples of articles needing sections. Please take the time to study what other editors have done before adding more tags. Thank you.JimVC3 (talk) 22:34, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

redlinks

I partially undid your edit to Mount Hood Wilderness per the guideline Redlinks are Okay. Please avoid edits which serve only to remove redlinks. Two redlinks (as there were in MHW, are definitely overkill.

It looks like you are doing quite a bit of maintenance work: Thanks for that. I know how underappreciated it is. Thanks much! —EncMstr (talk) 18:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I know. I'm also trying to get rollback meaning I don't have to go through the tiring process of using TW. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Do you mean enabling Twinkle? Or the one to two clicks to use Twinkle? —EncMstr (talk) 18:08, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
You see, rollback allows you to revert anything quicker than with twinkle, what I currently use. Rollback would just be a great help for me. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:10, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)In my experience, the Rollback permission is useful when using Internet Explorer, where TW is not available. You may also want to consider using pop-ups, which are also handy for getting previews of pages without having to navigate to a new page, and also allow reverts (but with more clicks).--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, all I'm saying is Rollback would be the best tool for the job! Note: edit conflict just happened. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Rollback right granted. Enjoy! —EncMstr (talk) 20:10, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:11, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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Edit reversion

Did you have a reason for reverting some of my recent edits? Tsk-tsk, you didn't list anything in the edit summary. ;) -- 208.59.92.106 (talk) 15:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Section blanking and replacing content. If you want to add more content, make a NEW sentence or section. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 15:44, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Aeolus

Just letting you know, and it was probably a slip of the Huggle, but you reverted my revert of 2 vandalism edits and one of the vandal's, leaving the IP's first bad edit. — cardiff | chestnut — 16:04, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I think it was. Sorry about that. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
No worries ... just letting you know. Best, — cardiff | chestnut — 16:09, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

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Millennium (TV series)

Why? Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Non-existant category. Create category then add back in. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Please check and correct your mistake. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 17:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I did check and the Category was created 4 minutes after I reverted the edit. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:04, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Comment on my Request for Rollback

You commented on my Request for Rollback that some of my reversions seemed to be against good-faith edits. For my own education, could you point to a few of those? I certainly want to be better at recognizing the difference. —Al E. (talk) 19:12, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Here's one [3] - you undid a Good Faith edit, which did not contain vandalism, maybe it contained errors, but please mark as AGF next time. Other than that, I support you getting Rollback. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
That particular edit resulted in a significant re-write of the article and removed virtually all wikilinks and all of the category links. It seems to me that someone was pasting their school report into the article. It wasn't obvious vandalism, but it was pretty destructive. I should have said as much in the change log. Thanks. —Al E. (talk) 19:27, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks, ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:28, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi :Tomtomn00,

you seem to be asking for every kind of access and capability there is. So rather than doing your requests behind the scenes, use the appropriate page to request the capability. The latest thing you requested I do not even know what it is, so that is why it is best to use the right request page, then the experts on that thing can give it a consideration and explain aspects about it to you. There are plenty of things to do here without special privileges. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Please could you respond to my email. The right I had requested was a mistake - instead of -Page I put -User. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 22:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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I just deleted the picture that you added, and thought I ought perhaps give you a reason.

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Format and appearance
Fitting the adjacent text.
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Article tagging

Tomtomn00, I've brought up multiple issues with your article tagging previously and I still have concerns (despite you now having a mentor). Could you please explain why you tagged this article as having unreliable sources? It would certainly be helpful if you're going to throw up vague tags on articles if you could at least explain your concerns on the talk page or leave a detailed edit summary. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:23, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, if you keep being consumed about unimportant stats such as this as opposed to accuracy and the actual improvement of articles, I expect you will find your time here quite frustrating. Wikipedia is about building an encyclopedia, not ratcheting up your edit count in the shortest possible time period. I understand that you are young, however there is a level of competence that is required in order to edit, and I'm concerned that although you have enthusiasm, you are not quite ready for the tasks you're taking on. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
They do not contain easily accessable information, and are just citations. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:28, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Could you point me to the part of Wikipedia's reliable sourcing policy where it states sources must be easily accessible? Do you realize this individual died in 1785? The second part of your explanation makes no sense - the citations are unreliable because they are "just citations"? Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I see your point now. Rolled back my edit. Sorry, ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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Hi there

Hi there Tomtomn00, how are you doing? I see you've had a little problem with article tagging recently - is there anything I can do to help you with this? ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 21:04, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Nothing much. You could look at my AWB request? Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage#Users Thanks anyway. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:06, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I can have a look at it but can't do much - I am not an admin so cannot act upon. Regardless, you have over 500 edits, so it should be granted to you soon. Might I ask, what do you plan to use AWB for? It seems that you have had trouble in the past with procedure and using automated tools (with STiki and with article tagging); I would strongly recommend that you read all of the relevant policy and guidelines before you start to use AWB. As I said, if there is anything I can do to help, let me know. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 21:17, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Not that this is needed, but would you like me to put the archive bot (Misza Bot or ClueBot III) on your talk page? It will archive it to a talk subpage. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh, look at this (it's random): Special:CentralAuth/Tomtomn00 - I think I put too many wiki's on there (288). ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────No thanks - I like to archive my talk page myself. Have you had a look at the AWB guidelines yet? Also, could I ask what you've read so far about New Page Patrolling and vandalism? ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 21:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

AWB is only 500 mainspace edits, and I have around 800. Requested. I will email you with other things which are more private. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I know that. I'm just wondering whether you've read the relevant guidelines and policy to do with AWB. If you do not, you'll end up with problems, as you have done before.
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One other thing. I'm taking part in the feedback thing (v5). ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:51, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Could you acknowledge that you have at least read my advice, please. I really want to help you, but I cannot do so if you ignore what I say. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 21:59, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm trying to do what you say. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 22:00, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Sorry if the previous message sounded a little grumpy (I'm tired and should probably go to bed), it just helps if I know that you've read and taken on board what I've said. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 22:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Same here. I've been up since 5AM (now 20 hours). ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 22:04, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Tosters

A tag has been placed on Tosters requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 11:14, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Emogene Thompson

Do go through with the deletion of Emogene Thompson but retain Michael Harold Chapel as due to being a major media event as well as a topic for a Courtv movie.

Not currently in news. No need? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 14:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Stuart B. Schwartz

Hi. Thanks for doing New Page Patrol, but this article contained more than enough claim of importance to pass the fairly low bar of WP:CSD#A7: "the George Burton Adams Professor of History and the Chair of the Council on Latin American and Iberian Studies... All Can Be Saved won three prizes from the American Historical Association... The book also received the world’s largest nonfiction prize... as well as the American Academy of Religion Book Award for Historical Study and the Bolton-Johnson Prize of the Conference of Latin American History." It didn't have any refs, but they are not required to pass A7. If confirmed by refs, there is enough there to establish notability per WP:PROF.

Unfortunately, it had to go, as it was also a copyvio from http://www.yale.edu/macmillan/newsletter_spr10/latinamericascholarship.html.

Please keep doing NPP, an essential part of keeping WP going, but have a read of WP:A7M and WP:10CSD, two useful guides by an experienced admin. Also, when something seems suspiciously well-written or like a publisher's blurb, it's worth feeding a sentence or two into Google to see whether it is a copyvio. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 14:56, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
"Not in English" isn't a speedy reason either, though I have zapped Iristel iberica as {{db-corp}}. For what to do with articles in other languages, see WP:NPP#Dealing with foreign language new pages. JohnCD (talk) 15:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Also, could you delete and create-protect this: Oleg Anatolyevych Shevchenko - it's already been deleted and that user keeps recreating it. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 15:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Zapped. Only created twice - I'll salt it if he does it again. There's a useful template {{uw-auto}} for people who write about themselves, which I have given him, and another {{userfy}} which is useful if a newbie makes an article with the sort of stuff that might reasonably go on a user page.
One more point - if you have only a single speedy reason, don't use {{db-multiple}}, because, e.g. {{db-person}} generates a more specific, and so more useful, message for the author's talk page. JohnCD (talk) 15:36, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Okay, I normally tag with Twinkle, and that can make a few mistakes. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 15:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Borjgala

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Borjgala, which you proposed for deletion, because the page you proposed for deletion was not an article. If you still think the page should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to it, as proposed deletion is only for articles. Instead, consider using WP:RFD for this page. In some cases, a speedy deletion criterion may apply. Thanks!

Note that WP:PROD cannot be used with redirects.Richwales 16:30, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletions

Hi Tomtomn00. Your speedy deletion tags look pretty good so far, I'm impressed. Just to let you know, I declined the tag you placed on Susan Nava because some notability is asserted. A7 is only for articles about people where there is no credible assertion of notability at all; in this case, the author claims that she is a TV-personality and well known socialite. It may be that the article is not notable enough for deletion; however, it that should be discussed at WP:AFD (feel free to nominate it for deletion if you wish). Aside from that, I've had a look at your other tags and they seem ok; keep up the good work. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 19:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Could I also nominate it for PROD? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:25, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
You could PROD the article, but be sure to check for reliable sources yourself before PRODing. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 19:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Doing so. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Could you have a look at my DYK nomination please? It's here. Thanks! ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm not incredibly familiar with DYK, but I'll have a look. I might not reply until tomorrow. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sure! (Note: If this page is laggy, the archive bot hasn't archived it - which it hasn't.) ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Some concerns

I raised concerns regarding your edits on ItsZippy's talk page as he has been providing some mentoring for you. I noticed that you saw my post and responded on ItsZippy's talk page as well. You said you "need to try harder to control" your editing. I have a response to that and felt I should contact you directly. (Actually, contact you directly again. I've left three messages on your talk page in the past.) Unsolicited advice is rarely appreciated and even more rarely followed, but here goes:

  • (1) Try to focus on the quality of your edits rather than the quantity. For your sake as an editor and for the advancement of WP, 10 high quality edits are far more useful than 50 edits that you race to get done and are populated with mistakes that others have to clean up. While a high edit count will get you past some of the easier hurdles in getting more "privileges" on WP, administrators will eventually look at the quality of your edits. While you do many, many things quite well, editors have had a variety of very legitimate complaints.
  • (2) Rather than adding maintenance tags to articles, correct the problem yourself. If you truly believe an article needs sections or a lead paragraph, insert the sections or create the lead yourself. This may take more time, and there's no requirement that you do so, but it will help you understand the meaning of the tag and help us all clear out the vast backlog of tags on articles. If you choose not to do that, please stop adding tags that feedback has consistently indicated you're adding incorrectly.
  • (3) Don't blame the automated systems (Twinkle, etc.) for making mistakes. I've used a couple of them for years and the only time I've seen an error with them is when I'm working too quickly (i.e., user error). Again, it's not the quantity of your edits that matters, it's the quality.
  • (4) If someone leaves a message on your talk page, try to think about and respond thoroughly to what they've said. Some of the people who have left messages are experienced editors. That doesn't mean they're always right or that you have to agree with them, but it does mean they may have something useful to say.
  • (5) And please re-consider archiving your messages every 48 hours. It makes it extremely difficult to follow a thread and necessitates searching through dozens of individual archive pages to find something.

Sorry if all of this too long and preachy, but they're things I feel strongly about. Good luck. JimVC3 (talk) 03:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

About the archiving, the bot does that after 48h of the thread not getting a reply. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 09:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I would just like to second everything JimVC has said - that is all very good advice. As I've said before, your enthusiasm is great, but you do need to have a little more control over your edits. The conversations I've had with you on- and off-wiki suggest that you are willing to improve, which is great. As a side note, 48 hours can be too short even for threads which have not received a reply - I often have people replying to a post of mine days or even weeks later. I personally archive my whole talk page very month - that might be better for you. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 17:44, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Stuart B. Schwartz

Hello Tomtomn00. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Stuart B. Schwartz, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: text sufficiently rewritten to avoid copyio. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 12:14, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to the April Wikification Drive

You logged your edits in the wrong drive month (June 2011). You should log them at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Drives/2012/April. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Codes

Can you please write me some code to autoarchive my userpage (after 7 days).--Epickindof (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk page? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:13, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes talk page.--Epickindof (talk) 17:14, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Done. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much.--Epickindof (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── So, won't I get an award too (for 10 wikifications).--Epickindof (talk) 17:38, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Reward yourself. :D ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


Speedy deletion nomination of University Church - Central Philippine University

A tag has been placed on University Church - Central Philippine University requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 14:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

File Moving Requests

Hey Tomtomm00, need to inform you that the 2 file moving requests that you gave for these files [7] and [8] were right but one word in both the files was spelled incorrectly. Although the file mover's and administrator's do look at the requested name and then take appropriate action accordingly, but you also need to take care when sending files for rename requests and always check their spellings and other things by previewing the edit before saving . I wanted to tell you this so that you can learn from mistakes (which almost everyone makes at some point of time, nothing to feel bad about it), become an experienced editor and always keep improving Wikipedia :). And you are doing a good job of anti-vandalism my friend ;) Thanks and Happy Editing! TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. :) ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikifying

Hi there Tomtomn00. I see you are participating the wikifying backlog elimination drive - that's great. You're doing great, but it might be worth re-reading the instructions. Do remember to check each one of those points before saving a page this edit, for example, needs additional wikilinks and the layout of this needs a lot of work. You're doing well, but make sure you check all of the criteria before removing the tag. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Your contributed article, People's Theater

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, People's Theater. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - People's Theatre, Newcastle upon Tyne. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at People's Theatre, Newcastle upon Tyne - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. TheLongTone (talk) 21:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I noticed your question on the talk page of People's Theater just before it was deleted by someone else. I can restore the page to your userspace if you'd like to merge any of the content into the existing article. Please contact me on my talk page if you'd like any help. Thanks. —SW— gossip 22:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jacobus Deketh

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Jacobus Deketh at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Soman (talk) 10:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Yngvadottir

FYI, you have both commented with Oppose and Strong Support at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Yngvadottir. Amalthea 12:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I noticed that. Removed the strong support. My error, sorry. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 12:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

GAN nominations

Hi Tomtom00. I have tagged Talk:Andrei Sannikov/GA1 for speedy deletion. By creating that page you have been designated as the reviewer, and you can't review an article you nominated. Looking at that article it looks a long way off Good standard. You haven't made any edits to the article[9] and unless you are willing to put in a lot of work and have some familiarity with the subject I would suggest removing the nomination. AIRcorn (talk) 12:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool updates

Hey all. My regular(ish) update on what's been happening with the new Article Feedback Tool.

Hand-coding

As previously mentioned, we're doing a big round of hand-coding to finalise testing :). I've been completedly bowled over by the response: we have 20 editors participating, some old and some new, which is a new record for this activity. Many thanks to everyone who has volunteered so far!

Coding should actively start on Saturday, when I'll be distributing individualised usernames and passwords to everyone. If you haven't spoken to me but would be interested in participating, either drop me a note on my talkpage or email okeyes@wikimedia.org. If you have spoken to me, I'm very sorry for the delay :(. There were some toolserver database issues beyond our control (which I think the Signpost discussed) that messed with the tool.

New designs and office hours

Our awesome designers have been making some new logos for the feedback page :) Check out the oversighter view and the monitor view to get complete coverage; all opinions, comments and suggestions are welcome on the talkpage :).

We've also been working on the Abuse Filter plugin for the tool; this will basically be the same as the existing system, only applied to comments. Because of that, we're obviously going to need slightly different filters, because different things will need to be blocked :). We're holding a special office hours session tomorrow at 22:00 UTC to discuss it. If you're a regex nut, existing abuse filter writer, or simply interested in the feedback tool and have suggestions, please do come along :).

I'm pretty sure that's it; if I've missed anything or you have any additional queries, don't hesitate to contact me! Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I've emailed you. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 14:51, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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Non-admin closures

Hi there, Tomtomn00. I see you've made a few non-admin closures to deletion discussions recently. While that can be helpful, you do need to exercise extreme caution. The reason that administrators are allowed to close deletion discussions is that they have been given the mandate to do so by the community; that is not the case with non-admins. For that reason, only very very clear cases of consensus should be closed as non-admin closures. Best practice is only to close discussions with a strong, unanimous (or near unanimous) consensus, and only after 7 days (unless it is a valid speedy keep. I have had a look at your closures and have the following comments:

  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarah's Choice (2nd nomination): This closure looks mostly good - it has had the full time and unanimous support to keep it. You closed it as a speedy keep, which is not quite right as it should just be a normal keep. A speedy keep must fall into one of the speedy keep applicability categories.
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ana Kasparian: Again, the closure is good enough, but it should not have been labelled speedy.
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Christmas: You closed this as a redirect; this discussion was inappropriate for a non-admin closure, so I have undone your closure. The consensus here was not obvious - there were only three votes, and one was to keep (with a non-trivial rationale). It's a crude measure, but 66% support is not clear consensus. When I non-admin close discussions with few comments, I will only do so if it is unanimous and at least one person has provided a strong reason for the position.
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ridpath Hotel: This one is probably ok. It's perhaps on the edge, but should be alright.
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johannes Grenzfurthner (2nd nomination): I have also reverted this closure. This one is a little odd as, in terms of votes, the position seems to be unanimous. However, consensus is not just about counting votes, it is also about the quality of arguments. In this discussion, there was considerable debate about the quality of some of the keep votes, questioning how strong they are. Because of this, consensus is not clear enough for a non-admin closure.

Hopefully, my comments on those closures should give you some ideas of when to close discussions and when to leave them. Here are some final pieces of advice:

  • Read Wikipedia:Consensus very carefully and make sure you really understand what consensus is and what a clear consensus would look like.
  • Participate if AfD debates first. I would suggest that no user should be closing discussions until they have spent at least a month joining in discussions. Joining in will be the best way to understand how consensus works, and when would be an appropriate time to close.
  • Go very very slowly. Read each AfD very carefully and only close it if you are absolutely certain that the consensus is clear.
  • Be overcautious. If you have any doubts about what you do, it is likely that consensus is not strong enough. Leave it, and allow an administrator to close the article.
  • Make sure you note in your closure and your summary that you are not an admin (you did this in some closures, but not all of them).
  • When you close a discussion there are two more things you need to do. Firstly, go to the article and remove the AfD notice. Secondly, add the following template to the talk page: {{oldafdfull|page=|date=|result=}}
  • Operate a transparent policy. For non-administrator closures, I have found the best practice to be almost always accepting it when people undo your closures, even if you are sure that you acted right (this is not a problem with you, just sound advice).

I hope that all makes sense. I'm sorry it's quite long, but it's important. It's great to see you're eager to help out, you just need to exercise a little caution. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure! (I say that a lot). Every time I look for at least 80% of oppinions to be the same. Thanks anyway, I've saved this to my long list of notes on my Dock (Mac). ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 21:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
  • As ItsZippy's says: please also don't forget that closing entails more than editing the AfD debate. You also have to remove the AfD tags from the articles and put "oldafd" tags on the article's talk page (see Eliza (magazine)). And I have to say that I find your statement about 80% of opinions rather disquieting. As ItsZippy already said, AfD is not a vote, and I have seen cases where the closing admin (for good reasons) went with the 20%... Thanks. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 11:32, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I do assess the article though. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 11:34, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Main/page

A tag has been placed on Main/page requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 10:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

  • The is a tick box in Twinkle saying "Notify page creator if possible". Untick it to save telling yourself! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I forgot about that. I moved the page to the correct title, then requested deletion. :o ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 10:47, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Gimingham Church

Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I closed your nomination, Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Gimingham Church, as "Not promoted". We welcome your contributions to featured picture candidates and I encourage you to nominate more images. Before you do so, you may want to review the featured picture criteria. If you're unsure if a picture meets the criteria, feel free to add the image to picture peer review where experienced users will comment on it. Thanks. I hope to see you at FPC again. Makeemlighter (talk) 14:06, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Rollback

TomTomn00, I've removed the rollback from your account. You've been rolling back non-vandalism edits, like here, here, and here, and that indicates that you don't have a good handle on how to use rollback yet. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Please could you restore it, and I promise I will not do it again. Please not that on Huggle, the summary sometimes doesn't work. I typed that they were good faith edits, but removal of content, which they were. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:06, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
None of these were removals of content. — foxj 16:10, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
All I'm saying is that I want my Rollback re-added to my account, and I will not use huggle for a long time. (Half a year) ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Sorry Tomtomn, but no. Your edits are your responsibility - if you don't know how to get Huggle to do what you need it to do, you shouldn't be using it until you figure that out. You're going to have to go back to doing things the old-fashioned way for a while until you can demonstrate that you have a strong understanding of what's vandalism and what's not, and how to use the more advanced tools you've been having problems with. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Making requests now don't have much weight. Misuse of the feature, even if unintentional or in good faith may give cause for it to be removed. (Written in top of the Permission request page). Once you have a good demonstration by reverting vandalism, ask for it again. Dipankan says.. ("Be bold and edit!") 16:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── How about this one thing. I use Rollback to undo MY edits for at least 3 months. Anyone could check my contribs, and see that I only undo my edits with it. )It took me since Nov. 2011 to get it, and I don't want to lose it.) ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:16, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Look, this is not a negotiation. You misused rollback in a way that indicates you do not understand how to use it, and for that reason you will not be getting it back today, especially since you seem to desperately attached to it as a symbol of status rather than a tool. Go back to manual vandal-fighting and build up some evidence to show that you know what you're doing, and then reapply for rollback in a few months. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:22, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Also, you don't need to leave me a talkback every time you reply here. I'm watching this page, and I can see when you reply; all the orange bar does is bug me to tell me something I already know. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Also, I wouldn't call it a "negotiation", I would call it, restoring the past, under different restrictions. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:24, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I would say this thread is enough to make sure no admin gives you rollback again in a hurry. — foxj 16:34, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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Moving forwards

Hi there, Tomtomn00. I saw you got your rollback rights removed - I'm sorry to hear that, but Fluffernutter was right to do so. As Sven said, don't get discouraged - there's still plenty you can do around here. I would suggest that we come up with something that you can spend your time doing, that you can get to know really well, and that you will enjoy. What would you most like to do now? If we can decide on something, I can help you understand what to do and make a strong start; hopefully we can avoid the pitfalls you've fallen into before. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 18:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)`

Other than get rollback back , Create some good articles (hopefully to be A-Class/FA/GA). I would also make a list, which would be easier. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:22, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Forget about rollback. I really mean that. If you are passionate about reverting vandalism, then do that. Do it because it needs to be done, not because you want rollback. Is that ok? Creating articles sounds like a really good idea. It's useful to know what you are interested in and what you might like to improve - what sounds interesting to you? What are you interested in (be specific: when you're not on Wikipedia, what do you spend your time doing, reading, thinking about, talking about, etc?). Also, don't worry about using TB on my talk page; I watch yours, so I'll get your replies. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 18:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm mostly doing Badminton and Tennis, so I could write about specific things in them sports if not already there. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
OK, that sounds good. Are there specific professional players or tournaments you are interested in? Or perhaps specific ideas/rules/concepts in those sports? Pick something to do with that that, then we can check if it is notable and then have a look at creating the article. Alternatively, if the article exists, you can consider improving it. What topic will you go for? ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 19:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't know. I might re-write Drop shot, a shot which is used in badminton and other raquet sports. :/ ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:39, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
That sounds like a very good idea. Why don't you begin by having a look for some reliable sources (start by searching Google & Google Books, as well as looking at whatever books you own personally) - post what you find here. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:27, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── [10] - is one. Most are just, wiki(answers). Which is blacklisted... ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:29, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I started it (User:Thine Antique Pen/FULLTALK/Drop Shot/2). ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:31, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
That source looks good. Might I suggest you try editing straight onto the article page? That will allow you to incorporate the good bits of the article and improve what needs to be improved. I find it easier to work in sections - perhaps you could add a section, Badminton, to the page, and begin editing about drop shots in badminton from there. You could then create a section for other sports later. Once you've done that, you can take another look at the lead. Does that sound alright? I'll watch the article and try to give you advice as you go. I'll also have a look for some sources you might be able to use. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:35, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Type "badminton drop shot" into Google Books - there's quite a lot of free stuff available there, including this and this. Do you know how to reference well? ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:36, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Both good. Anyway, good luck with that RfA! ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

You've made a good start on on drop shot, well done. See if you can expand the sections on badminton - use the sources to find out how easy/hard the shot is, when they are used, which badminton players have been known for drop shots, how a drop shot can be returned, etc. Try to avoid using "you" in articles, go for "the player" or something similar instead. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 14:26, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

BLP unsourced tagging

Hi there, yesterday you tagged three articles with {{BLP unsourced}}, James Stewart (archaeologist), Jean Price-Mars and Wang Xifeng. Two of these articles are about deceased people, the other is a fictional character. Please ensure that you use the correct tag for the article. BLP tags are only to be used on biographies of living people. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 07:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Notice?

Mind if I remove [11]? I think it was put here in error.  :) Wikipelli Talk 12:28, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I warned that user with Twinkle, and you may have been the last contrib. on their talk? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 12:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, I created the IP's talk page when I put the first warning on it. As near as I can tell you didn't warn the user, you just put the speedy tag on their page. That's what got me the notification. No worries. :) Wikipelli Talk 13:58, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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Please be cautious

Tomtomn, I realise that you think I've treated you unfairly, but it's unacceptable for you to misrepresent my words and actions as you've done here. As I explained to you, and as you can see from your own edit history, none of the three rollbacks I cited in my note to you had anything but the default rollback edit summary. You did not roll them back as a removal of content, as your subpage claims. You rolled them back as vandalism. In any case, none of the three errors I cited had anything to do with removing uncited content, as your subpage claims - in all three cases, your revert actually removed content that had been added, all of which appeared to be good-faith additions. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:14, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought that I had set the edit summary to default, sorry. I also felt angry when I wrote that.~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Email

Hi Tomtomn00 - I've replied to your email. Pedro :  Chat  19:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Replied again. Pedro :  Chat  20:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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Unwatched

Hi Tomtom00 are you interested in the Special:UnwatchedPages? There is a list of pages that you can add to your watchlist so that they are watched. THen if they are vandalised they will who up on your watchlist, and you can fix the problem. Are you interested in the first 1000 pages to add to your watchlist? If you are I will email the titles to you. And thereafter I can email you another 1000 every week or so. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:45, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I suppose. I haven't got rollback anymore, so I'll be quite slow on reverting! ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I'm curious, Graeme, why would the list of unwatched pages only be visible to admins? I might be interested in putting some on my watchlist. Again, just curious. Wikipelli Talk 21:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
The reason it is hidden is to keep it from the eyes of vandals. If vandals alter things on it, no one will observe on their watchlist to fix it. The unwatched does not work very well so it only produces a list of 1000 articles at the beginning of the collating sequence. Undo still works without rollback! So Wikipelli you cn get a batch on your watchlist too if you like. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
reading your response gave me a 'duh, of course' moment.  :) Of course you wouldn't want a list of pages that no-one is watching to be public! Thanks.... Yeah, I'll take a batch and keep an eye on them. My email is active. Tomtom, let's take a crack at them! Thanks! Wikipelli Talk 22:51, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Email me with them, then. I'll start in the morning. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 22:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
First batch mailed to Tomtom00. Of course you are also welcome to improve these articles by editing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:44, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I feel up to the challenge, send 4 more please. :-) ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 23:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


Confirmed

Just for prototype.wikimedia.org/flaggedrevs ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

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Happy Easter, Tomtomn00! Hope your day is great! :) Like my singing? Ha-la-la-la-la-la-LA-LAAA!!! (talk) 10:58, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 11:32, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Sarah Elizabeth Wardroper

Hi. I've declined your A7 as I feel that significance is shown. It's had a fair bit of work since you tagged it, and I've added another link (which could well be tidied up - I still have trouble with doing that...). Peridon (talk) 11:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Re: Rollback

These things happen, and unless you were planning on running for Admin sometime in the next six months, it really won't affect anything. Coincidentally, when I mentioned that I don't Huggle very often, this is why. The urge to be... shall we say... overzealous, is there.

My advice is as follows:

  1. Don't quit the project in a huff.
  2. Don't go to another admin and ask for it back. Removing the discussion from your talk page won't change the user rights log, which only a developer can touch, afaik. Doing this would make you look bad, and accomplish nothing.
  3. Take a month or so off from vandalism fighting. After that, use Twinkle or Popups for a bit. They're slower, yes, but vandalism reversion isn't a race, and slowing down might help.
  4. If you still want rollback after three or four months, go back to Fluffernutter and ask her. That's always the best way to do it. Ask her to look over your reverts and if she likes what she sees she'll probably give the user right back.

Cheers, Sven Manguard Wha? 16:55, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I had to archive the page, as I was going to mess around with the top section. It's here: /Archives/14. I feel like using the basic undo button, next to the Rollback one, which is what I was used to before I had Rollback. I'm thinking about requesting Administrator around November, if all goes well. Rollback? Probably around June. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:03, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Who needs rollback anyway? If someone took away my rollback rights, I would not object at all. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:26, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Twinkle and Undo are slightly too slow for me. :/ ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:05, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Are you serious? Speed isn't the goal FFS. It's not a fucking game, it's not click-the-button-and-move-on, it's NOT ABOUT GOING FAST. Why don't you understand that? Oh right, because when everything else has already been gamified for kids, Wikipedia must be also. </sarcasm> /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 14:41, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I am NOT saying that speed is the goal. I am saying that they are too slow for me, and I cannot see if a change on Recent Changes has already been reverted. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:38, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Which is to say that you want something faster. Which means speed is what you desire. You know, if you can't "keep up" with the Hugglers, you should try to write articles instead. There's no race there ... right? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I've made around 35 artices on the simple wikipedia, and about 40 here.~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 19:11, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Tom, I recommend you drop this conversation. Fetchcomms is right - speed is not the goal with anti-vandalism. If you understand this, then that's great - I'm sure we'll see some positive anti-vandalism and article creation from you. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 21:09, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Quality over quantity. Anyway, I don't really care what you're doing—I learned my lesson dealing with immature kids a long time ago—so good luck to you and your article writing pursuits as well. I sincerely hope that you will not end up like the rest of them; you have some clue in you. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:19, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Your email

In response to the email you sent me: I have already explained to you that I don't believe you possess the competence to use rollback correctly at this time, and I will not be re-granting it unless and until you have amassed in the coming weeks/months/years/whatever a pile of evidence showing you getting vandalism reversion right. Your email to me continues to display that, along with the issue of vandalism/not vandalism, you also have serious problems understanding what constitutes "removal of content", whether that removal is vandalism or not. I would strongly - strongly - suggest that you stop asking administrators for rollback for the time being (it appears you've already asked at least one admin besides me for it back since I removed it). You're not ready. Focus on, as other editors have told you a few sections up on this page, improving articles, manually reverting vandalism, and generally getting a better sense for how things work around here. I know you think doing things manually is slow, but that's the point - when someone is first learning how to do something, they need to do it slowly, so that they can watch what they're doing. Once everyone is sure they know what they're doing, then then can start worrying about whether they can do it quickly or not. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:54, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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Article Feedback

Hey. Why were you hiding article feedback posts? It quite clearly says at the top not to play around with it unless you've been asked to :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 19:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

At the time it did not. Also they were mostly bad content, and needed Oversight. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 23:20, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Tomtom, those actions were taken 10 days ago. Now, I know that it included the big red warning, because I'd stuck the warning in quite a few days before ;p. Unless it cached? Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 04:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Hmm... Not sure. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 10:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Blocked

I have blocked you for the persistent pattern of poor behavior you have demonstrated, as documented at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Tomtomn00, and in threads linked from that discussion. I will unblock you if you promise me that you will not request any userrights or tool access, on any Wikimedia project, for any reason, from anyone, for a year. Otherwise, you may appeal this block in the normal manner, please see WP:GAB. MBisanz talk 19:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

That is a promise, I will not request any rights until April 9, 2013. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 22:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for cooperating. You are now unblocked. MBisanz talk 22:58, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
If I may, let me just add one more clarification to MBisanz's phrasing of the restriction: you are restricted from requesting rights regarding any project both by posting on that project or by emailing any user. In the past, you seem to have used private communications to get some of your rights, but we need to make clear that this is no more ok under your new restriction than it is to request them on-wiki.

That said, I'm happy to see you've agreed to slow down a bit, and I hope to see you getting a better sense of things around here now that you'll have a bit more focus on your hands. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

To occupy lots of my time, I have recently installed my own wiki to my server. It will mean I spend lots more time developing my skills, as I can give myself all the rights I want on a private wiki. Also, was the case meant to be on AN/I because it was on AN I think. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 23:18, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tom! Here's an interesting question for you (I'm not an administrator, by the way) ... are there some skills that one can develop on a wiki like Wikipedia (or Simple Wikipedia) that one cannot develop on a private Wiki that is on one's own server, or that one owns and controls?

If yes, what are those skills? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I believe that one cannot develop specific things here without doing the basics first. However, on my own wiki, I have a choice of what I do and when I do it. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 23:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
OK, thank you, that's a good honest answer. Sometime in the next year, you might think of other answers to my question - feel free to email me if you do. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:30, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
I sure will if I do. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 23:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Good reading

Hey, have you seen this? It's pretty good. Rcsprinter (whisper) 19:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Rcsprinter, can I ask you not to mock Tomtom, please? He has a good heart, even if he has made some mistakes. Those attributes may sound familiar ;). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah well I just read the ANI thread, discovered he'd already seen it and was going to remove it anyway. Mocking? Dead familiar. Rcsprinter (natter) 20:00, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Saw that thing... ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 23:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Reports to WP:AIV

Hi there, just wanted to let you know about this report. There is certainly problematic activity there with all the blanking of material. But there is no final warning recently (I have added one). IP addresses change regularly and it's entirely possible that this is a different person to those who have been warned/blocked before. An IP address is not an 'account', and we can't really view edits going back to 2007 as all being by the same person.

If a similar case comes up again, leave a final warning yourself and report to AIV after a final warning has been given. Best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 15:30, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

It was triple-vandalism, exceeding the warning so I thought it would need an AIV. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 15:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Well it sems another admin agrees with you as they have blocked it. Nevertheless there was no final warning (until I added one); only two bot-generated general warnings. It's a moot point now anyway. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 15:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
To add to that, the final warning must have been recent - if a user had a final warning a month ago, it's not really relevant to today's vandalism. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 15:35, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

What shall we do?

Hi there, Tomtomn00. Following this discussion and discussions other editors have had with you, I think it is worth deciding what we are going to do from here on. A number of editors have found your actions disruptive - that includes your repeated requests for permissions, previous problems regarding anti-vandalism, and NAC AfD closures, to name a few. I really want to avoid any more of these difficult situations and would really regret it if you were blocked; therefore, we need to decide what you are going to do. I am very pleased to see that you have agreed not to request any more user rights for a year - that is a big step forwards.

Having a look at your recent contributions, your CSD log looks pretty good - that might be something you can work on improving. In addition, since slowing down, you anti-vandalism work has improved. Perhaps you can focus on these two areas - they are areas you have some experience in and are have had successes with. I'll continue to watch your work in these areas and help you out when necessary. In addition, as you've agreed to wait a year until requesting any more rights, it will mean that ou are actually doing it because it needs to be done, not because it will earn you any respect or privileges. Does that sound ok? ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 15:37, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Yep. Is your RfA meant to be over yet? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 15:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
My RfA has run its course; a bureaucrat still needs to close it - that will take as long as it takes for a bureaucrat to notice. Anyway, I am glad that your willing to work on those two more specific areas. I will continue to watch your contributions an dlet you know how I think you're doing. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 15:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Sure! ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 15:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Am on a tablet, so can't use twinkle...you've got messages though. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 16:09, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Replied. I look at my Watch List. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Andrea Mizzi

Hi Tom. I declined your CSD tag on Andrea Mizzi. Remember, A7 requires that no assertion of significance is made at all - the fact that the article asserts that the person is a football player is enough to assert significance (even if there are no sources, and even if the article is later deleted at AfD). In addition, A1 should only be used when you cannot determine who or what the subject of the article is. When you tagged it, quite a lot could be determined - crucially, we know that he is a professional footballer. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 17:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

As I use twinkle, it says that it does not have enough importance, on the Twinkle criteria. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:19, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
You should be using the WP:CSD criteria, not the Twinkle criteria. The Twinkle criteria is there to help you remember which rationales fit with which code; they require that you understand the CSD criteria. WP:A7 defines importance or significance as the relevant factor, not notability. This includes "any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines". If you plan to continue CSD tagging (which might be a good use of your time), do make sure that you fully read and understand everything at WP:CSD. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 17:28, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Are you sure that's what Twinkle says, Tom? I just checked what A7 says when I open the CSD popup in Twinkle on my account, and it says (main text) "Unremarkable person" and (hover text) "...does not assert the importance or significance of its subject". Unless Twinkle text is different for admins and non-admins - and I don't think it is - that should be the text you're seeing, too. In any case, ItsZippy is correct that any credible assertion of importance is enough to save an article from A7, no matter what Twinkle says. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:30, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Just read WP:CSD. Thanks for the link. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:53, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
That's great! ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:38, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Can you delete my CSD log. I want to try something, as I'm getting a small Twinkle bug. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

I can, but could you tell me what you're planning to do, please? ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Update some Twinkle preferences, then put the logs back on. I've saved them anyway. I've been getting errors sometimes, where it saves the CSD to another page. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Done. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Restored. It now saves to the log. :D. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Tag removed

I have reverted your addition of the original research tag here. I have no idea what could be construed as original research here. It's a stub article consisting of three sentences, each of which is sourced. And this is one sentence and is sourced to orchidspecies.com! There is no original research, it's simply a statement "Bulbophyllum leytense is a species of orchid in the genus Bulbophyllum.". Perhaps you could be persuaded to desist from tagging articles as original research until you have a better grasp of what it means? --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 22:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

An award for you

A Barnstar!
Golden Wiki Award

In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 66.87.2.33 (talk) 23:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes

Yes I do. =) ResMar 01:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure, but you have to give me some time, I'm not terribly active atm. ResMar 15:21, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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NAC

Tom, I am going to ask you not to do any non-administrative closures of AfDs for a while, at least until you get the terminology straight. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarah's Choice (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ana Kasparian were not "speedy keeps"--they do not meet the requirements in WP:SK. That in one of them one of the participants said "speedy keep" doesn't mean it's correct. In Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eliza (magazine), there was no 80% in favor of keep--the one delete vote was by the nominator, and it's not a count of votes or percentages anyway. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Christmas, you closed and it was reopened. These are from the list on your user page; I don't know if you closed any others. You just got blocked and unblocked, and there are more than a few editors who have questioned you and your edits--it would be good for you to be careful. Drmies (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

The "speedy keeps" can be considered "snow keeps". Bmusician 08:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
But "speed" and "snow" are different words for a reason. What they "can be considered as"[weasel words] is not relevant, certainly not when it comes to deletion: people care about deletions. Drmies (talk) 18:23, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
I meant to say that they were different; sorry for not being clear. Bmusician 06:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Requests for permissions

Hi! I notice that you are getting involved in replying to permission requests, which is great. You may want to think about making it clear that you are not an administrator by placing [Non administrator observation] or something similar before you reply. This makes it clear that you have provided a helpful opinion but an administrator still needs to review the request and take action if necessary. Thanks! Puffin Let's talk! 17:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought I added {{NAO}} to it. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 17:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
{{nao}} will work too, though that template may be deleted soon. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 18:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I believe I contributed to that discussion. A random thing: Which signature here is the best? ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 18:35, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Any of them would be fine. I prefer simplicity so would pick 4 or 5, but go with your favourite. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 19:41, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Using yours, but changed. Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:57, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Andrei Sannikov

I removed your GA nomination of Andrei Sannikov. You have made no contributions to the article and there are at least four citation needed tags present. It is a good idea to at least sort those out before nominating. I left a message here (archived now) suggesting you remove it and also one at WT:GAN#Talk:Andrei Sannikov/GA1 was started by article nominator saying it should be removed. There were no objections there so I evoked WP:Silence. It is a little out of process, but due to the backlog at Good articles I feel this is a WP:IAR case. The other option is a quick fail, but I didn't think that would be fair to the major contributors. AIRcorn (talk) 11:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Ministry links

hi Tomtom00... the links used as the sole reference for your 'Ministry of... " articles today are not working at all. Is it my browser? or the links? You created a number of articles that have only one source ( https://www.kpwkm.gov.my). Is it my problem, or the link's problem? Wikipelli Talk 23:36, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Articles under construction, links worked earlier. I will look in the morning.--Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 23:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Assume Good Faith

Hi Tomtom... Be careful leaving warnings [12] for vandalism and make sure you understand the characteristics of vandalism. I don't see this [13] as a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. Yes, it's uncited, but a quick search turns up sources for the information (for example: [14]).  :) Just sayin' Wikipelli Talk 13:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

It was automatic with the article by Twinkle, however I was also referring to other edits. Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 13:45, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
That's the trouble with automated tools, and they get me into trouble sometimes. :) It's worth our while, though, to be careful with them so we don't chase off editors that are trying to make good edits. I checked the IPs contributions (there were 5 at the time) and all appeared to be good faith. It's a judgement call, but none seemed to be deliberately trying to harm the encyclopedia (the benchmark for vandalism). It's good to stop on edits like that and leave a message specifically letting the editor know what the problem is and how they can correct it. Even with IPs! :) Have a great day! Wikipelli Talk 14:02, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

About your post at UAA

Hey, Tomtomn, I happened to come across your post at UAA. I've not heard of "dill" being offensive slang for anything, so there's really no reason to report him at UAA, which is only for things in the username alone that are offensive/disruptive/etc. I looked at his contributions; a better place to report him would be WP:AIV, which is for the garden-variety vandals. Based on his contribs, you could report him as a vandalism-only account, although even then, it's probably better to give him escalating warnings first. Thanks, Writ Keeper 20:39, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I reported to UAA due to the fact that the user was posting a part of their username on random pages. Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 15:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I know, but that's not what UAA is for. UAA is generally for usernames which, completely on their own, are obviously problematic. A name like that one wasn't problematic at all on its own. Sometimes you do have to take the editing into account, but that's really only with promotional usernames (since it may not be obvious that a username is promotional until the user has tried to promote it). Disruptive or offensive usernames are generally either immediately apparent without referring to the edit history or not worth reporting to UAA.
Also, I've been reading the snit between the two editors in the thread above this one. Dickery aside, I think Fetchcomm is giving you good advice: you need to really slow down on the things you're trying to do here. It's pretty clear that you have an interest in doing "admin"-type things, which isn't a bad thing. But doing these things requires quite a bit of familiarity with the varieties of policies and guidelines, which I'm not sure you have yet. I'd recommend that you try to stay away from these admin-y areas for the time being.
If you like, a good way to contribute is by using the random article link and trying to fix typos and the like in the articles you come across. That's actually the kind of stuff I started with. While you're doing that, try just browsing through the various policy pages and reading them, even if it's only the nutshell version of it. I lurked on those pages for quite a long time before I started doing the "admin-y" type things that I do now. You'll get a better grasp of what to do soon enough, but I'd definitely recommend holding off for probably a few weeks at minimum. Wikipedia can be a pretty complicated place, so it takes time to learn the ropes, and it can't be rushed. Thanks, Writ Keeper 15:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mark Olf

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Mark Olf at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Goodvac (talk) 16:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Quick note

Hi there, Tomtomn00. Just to let you know, comments like this are not always incredibly helpful. Although Jmolf didn't quite format his comment correctly, using bold capitals is just like shouting at him, which no one really likes. If you can try to be polite, even when letting people know they're wrong, you'll do much better here. Hope that's all ok. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 16:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay! I just did that because the entire DYK nomination was messed up by them. Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 16:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
GET OFF THIS SITE BEFORE YOU SCREW UP ANYTHING ELSE!
Sorry, I just did that because Jmolf's confidence was messed up by you!
Now, really ... do you not get the fucking point? Have you not even bothered to apologize to him for shouting? Do you not know how to work with new users rather than belittle them? Oh wait, the entire DYK nomination—a whole fucking nomination!—was malformatted temporarily by a new user. OMG CALL THE WIKIPEDIA POLICE SO THEY CAN ARREST THIS MORON!!! </sarcasm> I have long crusaded, fruitlessly, sometimes alone and sometimes with others, to improve the quality of experience offered to our new users. Remind me again why it's fruitless. You could be part of the solution, if you chose to ...
I come back here after a week, hoping to give you some compliments on how you've (hopefully) improved because I really did think you had more hope than other users that acted as you initially did. But now I'm just disgusted. It's time to face the reality, because you've displayed every single characteristic of the archetypal unclueful kid playing mash-the-buttons on Wikipedia: act mature and clueful, or stop. Because you're going to be blocked again if this continues. You're not the first person to have these issues; you're lucky that you got a second chance, unlike a few of the others.
So can you do this? Because it's not a game—it's dealing with real people and real consequences—and sometimes people just aren't ready to work in this environment. If you know your clue level isn't going to increase anytime soon, it would be wise to quit for a while, perhaps a year or two. If you think you can clue up in another week, then ... prove it. Look, I don't beat around the bush and I'm not afraid to be frank with others. If you're insulted, the worst thing you can do is ignore me. I'm nicer when I'm not frustrated, so talking truthfully and politely to me is a good thing. Or if you want to be frank with me, feel free to shout expletives and throw a tantrum via email (the civility police really frown upon it when people do that in public, but I like hearing one's true feelings, even if they're "uncivil"). I won't tattle. Any dialogue is good dialogue, I think.
For this week, you goal ought to be a week free of complaints or warnings (templated or not) on your talk page. That sounds more than reasonable to me. Perhaps you agree.
/ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


Fetchcomms, I've warned you before about repeatedly demanding that underage users email you. "the worst thing you can do is ignore me" is not an acceptable thing to be firing off at a possibly underage user from a position of power, especially when accompanied by suggestions of imminent blocks and suggestions that emailing you is one way out of it. I understand you have strong feelings on this topic, and I know from extensive experience that it's far from easy to deal with, but please stop doing this.
Tomtomn00, there was a lot of sense in some of what Fetchcomms said (I didn't do a partial redaction because I didn't want to misrepresent the sense of it). You can read it in the page history if you like. Your reply to ItsZippy's comment was far from ideal, and one other person already contacted me privately about it. Please approach things very carefully - how you talk to other users in particular. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
What the hell are you talking about? Position of power my ass—do you think some random douchebag on the Internet like me is really that powerful? Grow up, pleaee. If you want to accuse me of being a pedophile, do it outright. But as I'm not, I think you ought to retract your assertions and restore my non-personal-attack-half-satirical-comment (actually, I'll do that myself). As you clearly failed to understand its point.
I suggested that he email me if he wants to rant at me. Would you rather he rant in public and be blocked by the civility police? If so, I would be free to entertain this option and defend him if anyone tries to block him. If he raises legitimate concerns about my actions, he is free to cuss me out over them. I grant that permission, in public and private. But nonetheless, I wasn't really being serious there. I don't really like it when people email me, because it makes my phone vibrate needlessly, and I haven't a clue how to stop it from checking for emails every three hours. The point being, stop acting like the noble and valiant defender of all helpless children on Wikipedia. It's not working; you make yourself look foolish.
Should you fail to find any more humor in my attempts to bring light to a dark situation, I may just well have to block you, too. Good day, sir.
/ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The worry is not that I may "fail to understand" these "wasn't really being serious" comments that you make, but that the (possible) children at whom you direct them may do so. If you don't want them to email you, then don't go around making suggestions that it's in their urgent interests to do so (this is what, the third time now?) and that "the worst thing you can do is ignore me". That's beyond the pale and you should know it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:53, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Third time's a charm, right? Maybe this time, someone will listen to me and clue up. No, seriously, it was never in anyone's urgent interest to do anything (I didn't request him to email expletives at me, I sarcastically left that as a possible route). I hardly think it's unacceptable to tell someone that ignoring advice usually ends them up in trouble. Do you disagree with that statement? Maybe Tomtomn00 does, in which case he is free to ignore me and go blithely on until the inevitable banhammer drops. I've never liked blocking people myself, anyway.
The fact that this is the third time I am encouraging discourse with so-called "problematic users" is independent of their perceived ages. If an immature college student was acting this manner (which I have seen once or twice), I would ask them to have a talk as well. I think it is better that users work out these issues in whatever manner is effective. If someone is embarrassed by admitting mistakes in public, email exists for a reason. They can always choose not to email me, of course. Again, in this case, I would be rather pissed to receive an email cussing me out, which (by the law of common sense) totally helps alleviate an "urgent" situation. Riiiiiiight.
I'm tired of this nonsense. I took time to give a user the bottom line before an unsympathetic admin jumped at them. And I get chewed out for having good intentions? Puh-lease. Assuming bad faith isn't my concern, it's yours, Demiurge1000. Just because you disagree with my delivery doesn't mean you should imply that I am engaging in inappropriate behavior. I note that no retraction of the implications to which you alluded above has occurred. If you genuinely think I am trying to take advantage of children or engage in any other misconduct, you should report it to the proper channels. I do not see anything wrong with trying to encourage communication over blocking, however. And I will vehemently defend myself against any allegations that I am trying to take advantage of other users, as they are patently false and entirely baseless. Again, playing the role of probably-child-defender isn't helping you here.
I expect your allegations supported or removed by your next edit, before some other moron admin pounces on this disagreement.
/ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I have made no allegations, and no implications. What I have done is to ask you not to behave like this. Three times now, probably. You are free to continue asserting that there has been absolutely nothing wrong with how you have behaved.
P.S. - for Tomtomn00; I have no opinion on whether emailing Fetchcomms (or anyone else) is a good idea or a bad idea. Although, he does now seem to indicate that he doesn't want to be emailed. However that may be, one thing I do recommend is to keep your parents informed, if possible, of events on Wikipedia and about anyone who may encourage you to contact them off-Wikipedia. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
By asking me not to engage in what is hardly inappropriate behavior, you are implying that there must be some special circumstance that justifies your request. Is there a reason why you're asking me not to tell other users to email me? A reason that is more pressing, perhaps, than the need for communication about a user's problematic actions?
Your words above are: Fetchcomms, I've warned you before about repeatedly demanding that underage users email you. "the worst thing you can do is ignore me" is not an acceptable thing to be firing off at a possibly underage user from a position of power, especially when accompanied by suggestions of imminent blocks and suggestions that emailing you is one way out of it.
Any other implications there other than the fact that you feel there is some sort of risk of me trying to take advantage of possibly younger users? And how do you justify your statement that you are neutral on him emailing me if you are clearly advocating against asking users to email me? If I'm being inappropriate there, why would not not oppose him from emailing me? Oh wait, because I've done nothing inappropriate by making a satirical comment about emailing me.
And I see now you're going on the "tell your parents about possible cyberstalkers" path. Oh for heaven's sake, if he hasn't the clue to figure out what is safe on the Internet, he should get off Wikipedia now. Tomtomn00, I don't think it would hurt to have your parents informed about the sort of troubles you have run into on Wikipedia. As Demiurge1000 will yell at me if I ask to email them, I suggest that they create an account here so we can have a frank discussion about the problems you've been having. That might be embarrassing, but you know, better safe than sorry, as they say. Perhaps your parents could assist in the clue-gaining process. Or maybe they'll just say that this is a whole waste of time. I don't know. But if you feel it prudent to involve them, as Demiurge1000 clearly does, I would be happy to have a conversation with them here as well as it would be bad for everybody if you were blocked. I have, mind you, seen users exhibiting poor behavior turn around and become good content contributors and other strong editors.
I would say something like, "I am always open to give advice or have a discussion to help you become one of these users," but I think Demiurge1000 would be inclined to call the Internet-creeper-police at that point! </humor> (I have also taken to clearly indicating my attempts at humor as concerns were expressed that you may misconstrue some of my intentions.)
/ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm not ignoring anyone, I was at school. I will not be emailing Fetchmomms, as I am not the type of person who will start a rant. I noticed that a long discussion had occured while I was away, with no input from me. I replied on this page to ItsZippy, then had to leave the computer. As I have just got back on, I have only just managed to remove my shouting, and add a sorry message. Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 15:50, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Fetchcomms, I have received an (unsolicited) e-mail from Tomtomn00 complaining about your attack above and I have to say I agree with him. I know I can be blunt sometimes but your outburst beats anything I have written. It is quite simply conduct unbecoming an admin and a gentleman. I know Tom can be frustrating and still has much to learn but that is no excuse for your language. Please be more moderate in future. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:35, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
He'll have to complain to me directly before I understand what he perceived as an attack. I hardly care if I am a gentleman, but I honestly don't see why admins (or any other users) should avoid giving users the full truth without babying it down. This isn't the first time I've tried to point him in the direction towards clue; I've been moderate in similar situations in the past and I have to say that those users ended up either circumventing the system (and causing someone else to quit), or getting blocked. I suppose we must disagree on the language issue (though I'm guessing at what you're referring to) as I don't think there was anything terribly bad in there. I would be happy to consider redacting and properly apologize (i.e., not simply "Sorry" *cough cough* </joke>) if you want to point out what you consider going overboard, so long as my points are still coherent.
I'm generally not so brash, but I've simply no patience for this nonsense because warnings have been given and cluebats have failed. Tomtomn00, as you haven't bothered to satisfactorily respond to any of my concerns (most of which are also shared by others), I consider my hands washed of this situation. I am no longer interested in your plight; whether others leave you nudging or point-blank advice, your actions belie any notion that you are giving thought to these warnings. This is the point at which I conclude that my time is better spent on helping people promote knowledge elsewhere. Probably a serious place that caters to those who are serious about free educational content and where my efforts will have more success.
I apologize if my message above has undermined any other user's or users' attempts to help Tomtomn00 adapt to the Wikipedia environment. I admit that I considered the possibility of this occurring but dismissed it because of a selfish hope that "my way" of offering the bottom line would work. As I have observed time and time again, this hope is better spent on lottery tickets.
I despise long comments but as I'm already this far along, I will finish with a personal anecdote:
When I was an ambitious new user here, full of unclueful immaturity and armed with scripts and zeal, I made many poorly-judged actions. Many users do. One of these actions had the unfortunate effect of driving away a long-time contributor, an article writer and administrator who had been with the project since only several months after its launch. I did not know about this at the time. In fact, I did not know about it until last year. Since then, I have been "haunted" to some degree by my actions, partially by the fact that I did not even bother to check the outcome of my action until many months after it occurred, and partially by the fact that I was unable to ever apologize to this user or have a discussion about the very legitimate meta-issues he later raised about my action. Instead, I, out of an immature mindset, caused someone who had been a Wikipedian since 2001 to leave, and continued to stumble around blindly wreaking more havoc until the cluebats rained down.
One place where they dropped was on IRC, around the same time as the aforementioned incident. I'm neglecting to go over the differences between IRC and Wikipedia, but for the purposes of this story, the circumstances are enough to call them the same environment. I was attempting to further my involvement in Wikipedia by "helping" other users in the IRC help channel. As a still rather new user myself, I ended up being a dumbass, being generally unhelpful, and was told several times to stop trying or leave. The point at which I finally understood was when an admin who is no longer active, but whom I continue to admire and respect, opened a PM and delivered a very, very frank lecture to me about my behavior and utter idiocy. I thought he was a meanie butthead at first but did not ignore his warning. I stopped participating in the channel and just watched for a while, just learned by observation. I don't think I ever had the chance to thank him for the advice he gave that day, because it was the time when suddenly everything made sense to me and I stopped treating this site as a game. It was also when I first became interested in article writing. I had gone to his user talk page looking to dish up dirt on him, but instead I found a rational, helpful, and likable individual who was passionate for the subjects about which he wrote. He left IRC shortly after our discussion and I never really interacted with him again, as we worked in different spheres onwiki.
I don't think I've ever mentioned these incidents with anyone before now. Consider yourself privileged. If you feel enlightened, I won't try to stop you. It's all fairly moot now, but look at the consequences: one writer and admin driven away, one IRC helper lost. In return, one writer and admin gained, as well as an (ex-)IRC helper. Is the trade-off worth it? I don't think so, but it's arguable. Yes, for me, personally; though the project as a whole, perhaps or perhaps not. But the cycle has continued, as far as I'm concerned, and this is the inevitable and repeating outcome. Every action has a consequence, which has its own consequences. Newton's third, though here the reaction may not be immediately equal, the other consequences balance it out in the long run.
Right, I'm off. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Nonsense

I've declined part of your speedy request at Allan Peter someone or other. I agree that he's probably not notable, but the article doesn't qualify as nonsense. For that, something has to be incomprehensible one of two ways. One, stuff like "iucui ukyvyfgrg ggffdssdfsfdkljlkjljlk" is definite nonsense. Not even in the Caucasus could that be pronounced. If there are more vowels, try it in Google in quotes. If it comes up, it's a copyvio in Foreign. If it doesn't, remove the quotes and try again. If the 'words' do seem to be words, try Google Translate. If that doesn't work, do some detecting involving domains etc. The second sort of nonsense is like "stew coypu princess formaldehyde parachute". All the words are clear, but put together they make a fog. Both types are fairly rare. I decline far more than I delete. Sorry about the rumpus on your page - I'd have had a word with them if I'd come in sooner. That should have been on THEIR talkpages, not here. Doesn't often happen, and I'm surprised at who it was. Peridon (talk) 19:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: American Energy Development Corp

Hello Tomtomn00. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of American Energy Development Corp, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Author has not requested deletion, or other users have added substantial content. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Your sign

Though it does not affect your working abilities, just wanted to tell that your previous sign was much better. Yasht101 08:28, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm going simple for a little while. Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 08:57, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
I just wanted to tell you that your simple signature is much better.
I've been simple for quite some time :) See ---->>>> --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:20, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
It used to be User:Tomtomn00/Signature 119:22, 21 April 2012 (UTC) - which I think is too full-of-colour for the time being. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:22, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Jacobus Deketh

It is still possible to get a DYK. I have corrected the hook, expanded the article, changed it to make sense and added some references. You can still try to improve it. Can you read Dutch along with your Latvian and German skills? You should take a read of the newspaper references, particularly the estate disposal sale and see if there is anything extra worth adding! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:06, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Tags

Hi Tomtomn00. Could you explain your thinking about this new article tagging? [15] Thanks, The Interior (Talk) 16:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

"Justin Bieber himself is a Twitter addict. He uses hashtags when tweeting and discusses a wider variety of topics." - POV, as some people would not call him a twitter addict, unless he says he is. Article has references of COI I believe. Feel free to remove the COI. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 16:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
If that one sentence is the only thing that's POV, you shouldn't tag the article with a POV tag; you should just fix the sentence. (It's not POV, though; there's a sourced statement below it where he calls himself a Twitter addict.) And...do you know what the COI tag says? It's tantamount to accusing User:LauraHale of being in violation of COI, which is not cool without evidence. Do you have any? Writ Keeper 16:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I will have to say that is my error. I should keep to CSD'ing things (my log) and creating articles. I have left an apology on LauraHale's talk page. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 16:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Mentoring course - lesson 1

... is now at your mentoring page.

I'm glad you've chosen to attempt this course, it could be very useful. It also shows that you really are prepared to further improve your editing, and put some thought and effort into it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:12, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


Non-free rationale for File:American Energy Development Corporation Logo.gif

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Non-free rationale for File:American Energy Development Corporation Logo.png

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AEDC

references 1 3 and 6 don't lead anywhere with a link. (3 is a wikipedia article, but it looks like you need to be more specific as there could be any number of "reports". For your wikilinks like Oil don't capitalise the o just have oil. Size and newness OK, but you have too many proposed hooks. Just pick one good one. Also the hooks are not that exciting, Isn't there a juicy scandal or something unexpected? Also you might get knocked back for plagiarism of http://www.aed-corp.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Pdf/Factsheet.pdf Try to rewrite it more, I see too much is similar. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:24, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Could you suggest one? I'm 'bad with hooks'. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 12:26, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Be more careful with what you revert

When you reverted the edit I made to Chuck-a-luck yesterday, did you make the slightest effort to determine why this content was removed, or are you one of the all-too-many Wikipedians who jump to the conclusion that any edit by an anonymous IP editor "must be" a vandal edit? (Why has it never occurred to such that if there were any truth to this, anonymous editing would have been disabled long since?)

If you had bothered to read the talk page, you would have seen for yourself the reason why I deleted this content; because these variants are (as far as can be determined from a Google search I conducted) the non-notable inventions of the WP editor who added them to the page, and their existance outside WP is confined to his own website. This is in flagrant breach of at least two WP rules, Wikipedia is not a soapbox and Wikipedia is not for things made up one day, and I suspect that these aren't the only rules broken. If you can find reliable references for the notability of this content, by all means add it back to the article along with the references proving it to be notable; until then, leave it alone.

In any event, don't just blindly "revert" without heeding exactly what you're doing to the article by doing so; your revert yesterday, along with restoring probably-undesirable content, also deleted a large section which I'd restored precisely because it is relevant (it was deleted on the grounds of being "poorly written", which is a reason to rewrite it, not to delete it). Hence it's your edit which looks like a vandal edit. — 188.29.7.229 (talk) 17:54, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

After checking, the note was left after I reverted it. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
That's it? No, "Sorry, seems I was wrong" or "Thanks for explaining your reasoning to me" or "Ah - I should've checked the material first"? Wow, that's the spirit of Wikipedia right there. 99.122.233.9 (talk) 19:33, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
I put my explanation of my edit on the talk page at 20:58, 22 minutes after the edit itself (this can be explained partly by the fact that I'm very ill at the moment, and have been for weeks) but 18 minutes before the edit was reverted at 21:16. So the above lame attempt by the owner of this user talk page to brush off his action is factually wrong regarding alleged timing, regardless of what else is wrong with it. And he still hasn't explained why he was undeleting content without evidence of the notability or suitability for the article of the deleted content. — 188.29.7.229 (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Competency is required

This effort to brush off an IP was pretty poor. You've been blocked once over your editing and at the time I defended you. I'm now questioning my judgement on that defence. Ease up. Seriously. Pedro :  Chat  19:42, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 21:09, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

AED

No, this is not rewritten. It is closely paraphrased and remains unacceptable for use. Any notion of it being rewritten is a fairy tale. You need to use your own words, rather than changing a few from the company's own website (which isn't a third-party source, at any rate). Until you understand this concept, please stop writing articles because you're now disguising a mess that others must clean up, and WP:CCI is backed up for a good year, at least. 99.122.233.9 (talk) 22:31, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

It's under rewrite, please give me a short time. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 22:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
You can't just change a few words to synonyms. Articles must be written entirely in your own words, not close paraphrases of other sources. If you have made paraphrases this exact or this close elsewhere, I encourage you to come forward voluntarily with them for repair or deletion—this may be an honest mistake, but paraphrases that close are copyright violations and cannot remain on Wikipedia. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I agree with 99.122.233.9. This style of "writing", where you change around and put references into words copied from some other source, is really not the way to create an acceptable article without copyright violation. It's "fruit of the poison tree", so to speak. I appreciate that you put a lot of work into this article and I think that the topic is notable, but it needs to be written from scratch. Danger High voltage! 04:10, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
I had rewrote it from scratch and then it was deleted. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 10:01, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Brownie transparent.png Happy 5000 edits! Zach Vega (talk) 01:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 13:12, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

CSD A7

Hi, you recently tagged a redirect page with CSD A7. It had a # and a link to another article thus it was clear that it was a redirect with the redirect tag missing. Please take care in such cases in the future. Congratulations on the partolling. Why don't you try WP:Kissle? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:57, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

At the time I tagged it, the page content was just #[[link]] --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:34, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
So, what should you have done, instead of tagging it? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Created a redirect, however after the edit summary I believed it to be just a link. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:38, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
A note to you as a patroller. If you see a 1 followed by a link, it is invariably a misplaced redirect. I've come across this when I used to patrol back in 2009. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Megitza

I reviewed your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Megitza. The tick symbol I used means it is approved for DYK. Now it is waiting for someone to add it to the DYK queue to appear on the Wikipedia front page. That person will be another editor, not you, the person who wrote it, nor me, the person who reviewed it. Because you started it on the 1st April, it should not be long before it appears on the front page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

A1 and A3

Please wait for at least ten minutes before tagging A1 or A3. Doing that allows to avoid WP:BITE. this seems like an attempt to create a redirect, and when the user tried fixing it, xe encountered an edit conflict with you. Thank you for patrolling new pages. Bmusician 12:01, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. Also, the discussion is above in the A7 section. (Title Error) --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 15:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Joe Rosentover

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DYK

Thanks for your review notifications. Would you consider the new alt hook at Template:Did you know nominations/Kony 2012.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg - Reviewed. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 15:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Feel free if you want any other requests reviewed. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 16:00, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

omg

Tomtom....Make the goal be, "write a good article" not "get a DYK". This right now is kind of embarrassing. I can't tell if he's a baseball guy or a football guy. It says, "renamed to American Football league" but the link for American Association is to a baseball league. And, "... the year it was founded (1936) as a minor league. It was founded as a Minor league." Really? If this guy is important enough for you to make an article about him, make an article. Right now you're just throwing down a bunch of words to bulk up the character count for DYK. Slow down...if you make DYK, fine, if not, there'll be other opportunities. Wikipelli Talk 17:00, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Now I see he was a basketball manager [16] as well as a soccer/football league manager. Quite a guy! So, not so much on the slowing down, huh? Wikipelli Talk 17:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Probably a good idea. Trying to go fast to get in on the DYK just leads to mistakes. I know he wasn't involved in all of those sports! What works for me with articles is to develop them in subpages and then move them out when I think they're well-sourced and cleaned up. I have also found that, once I decide to make an article, I focus only on that - no huggle, no twinkle, no watchlist. It might just be the way my mind works. :) Don't worry about DYKs, edit counts, fame and glory :) All of that will come once you just settle down to good solid editing. Anyway, I was watching the DYK nom and thought I'd put my 2 cents in on the article here. Wikipelli Talk 18:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
By the way, I found LOTS of references (NYT, Christian Science Monitor, Enquirer, etc) with articles on Rosentover. Unfortunately all pay-walled. Might need a trip to your local library or university for access. Wikipelli Talk 18:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Suppose. I might keep browsing for a bit though. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 18:46, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jacobus Deketh

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Articles Created

Tomtom... I think including articles such as Tom Zuber and Adrenna in your 'Articles Created' section of your user page [17], might give the impression to others that you actually wrote (my definition of 'created') the articles. Just sayin' Wikipelli Talk 20:12, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I have the WP:AFC after it, so I assumed it was okay. I'll stick a note at the top of the page saying what that means. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:13, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
You can do whatever you think is best. I'm just giving my opinion. I don't want you to be in the position of people thinking that you're taking credit for creating/writing articles that you didn't. Me? I'd leave them off the list altogether. All it is is a move. But, like I said, my opinion. Wikipelli Talk 21:24, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
[18] Much better. I don't think there's anything I can say that'll make you stop worrying about numbers and lists and DYKs and whatnot.... but that's better. At least you're not taking credit for anothers' work. I'm speaking as someone who had his very first article stolen out from under him just as I was about to move it to article space. People put time and effort into their articles. The author ... original author... should have those pages listed on their "articles created' lists. Thanks. Wikipelli Talk 21:44, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
No problem, I tried to combine too much into one page. :D --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 21:46, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of BitFenix

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Matthew Grant Norman

I saw that you added A11 there, I fear that there is no such criteria. So I G3ed it using multiple as it is a pure vandal (misleading) Thanks Yasht101 11:53, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Wrong page again, on the talk page it's promotional. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 11:55, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
What Yasht101 is saying is that there is no A11 criterion. You're looking for WP:G11. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:49, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes. But Peridon sir deleted it under A11 so we have a new CSD ;) Yasht101 14:24, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
New CSD should be called: Tomtomn00's G11 mistake - aka A11. :D --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:53, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Stories Project

Hi!

My name is Victor and I'm a storyteller with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. I'm chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who make and use Wikipedia have so much to share.

I'm curious why you feel the need to add sources to articles

I'd very much like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia. Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project.

Thank you for your time,

Victor Grigas user:Victorgrigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org Victor Grigas (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Right, umm, hi Tom :). In between all my ranting about who can ask/tell you to email them, etc., I have confirmed with a different WMF employee that Victor is indeed a/the Wikimedia Foundation storyteller, and is also (excitingly) the "primary photographer". So you might want to email him and swap ideas on photography and how he got the job and the best ways to get jobs in photography (if you're still interested in that) and and and...
When he says "interview" he probably does not mean in person, he might mean on Skype or via email. Parents or school might both support you in doing this, it's a good opportunity to get your voice heard about why you contribute to Wikipedia and what you think the WMF should be doing.
You should discuss it with parents first, and if they are a bit "huh? what?" then Victor (or possibly me) might be able to explain more to them. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh, also. The yearly fundraiser is in December each year. So, although things need to be planned well in advance, there's plenty of time to think this through :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:33, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Like my parents will come on... I've emailed you (Demiurge1000) what I say... --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Road articles

Rather than creating very short stub article on Louisiana roads can you create some sort of overview article? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll have a go with the next ones. I've got 1855 of 'em lined up in Notepad so far, so I'll edit them slowly. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:59, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
You might want to slow down and expand these articles on Louisiana highways. Last year, WP:USRD, the U.S. Roads WikiProject concluded a successful drive to reduce our stub count by a net 2011 articles over the course of the year. We did this through expansions, mergers, and in some cases, deletions. While we appreciate assistance in creating missing articles, these stubs are one or two sentences at best cited to self-published sources and a non-specific link to Google Earth. They're increasing our counts at a time we would like to plateau the numbers by keeping them relatively stable. Each two-sentence stub created in Louisiana means we have another article to expand someplace to keep the numbers roughly even.
Can you slow down a bit, and help expand them with the missing information needed to make a proper route description and maybe even a junction list? (Also, we Americans don't use the definitive article in front of highway names. "The Louisiana Highway X" just sounds wrong to American ears, and once the abbreviation convention is used, we tend to abbreviate all instances of other highways in that "class". So if the first sentence starts out "Louisiana Highway 91 (LA 91)..." then we'd abbreviate LA 13. Imzadi 1979  12:41, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Highways

Mighty fine work! Perhaps if you could easily include a link to the routes highlighted on google maps this would be great but if it makes creating less efficient don't worry. You say you have 7000 articles to create? Are you running a script? Because if its automated I think you'll need approval from WP:BAG. Shouldn't be a problem though as your new articles are nutritious!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:45, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm doing it manually! :D I'm trying for 100~ articles a day for around 70 days. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 11:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

If you could state the towns the highways connect this would be great, otherwise readers won't know where in the state it is! E.g The highway begins at xxx, xxx county and ends at xxxx, xxxx county. Happy editing!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:48, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I might ask someone to write me a bot for it, then I'll get BAG approval (hopefully). --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 11:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Megitza

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This is what I get (a warning from my antivirus) So is the website in your userpage, safe? Yasht101 16:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Minor. It's just because it's a https (secure) redirecting to a http (less-secure)! Removed it. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 16:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Red sky truth

Hi Tomtomn00! About Red sky truth - I didn't think it was a valid redirect, as it doesn't really mean much by itself. Maybe I'm not seeing something obvious, though. Do you think people might find it useful? Best — Mr. Stradivarius 16:39, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

After a browse, feel free to CSD it. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 18:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Louisiana Highways

Please stop creating articles on these highways. You've been asked to slow your creation rate down. You're writing them in British English, which isn't appropriate for a subject that's located in the United States. We don't hyphenate "southeast", and it wouldn't be appropriate to change the title of a website from the American to British spelling anyway. Second, you've been told that we don't place the definitive article ("the") before highway designations, but it isn't appropriate to italicize a highway name either. Please stop your article creation and discuss these issues because your actions are getting disruptive. Wikipedia has no deadline, so there is no rush to create all of these articles. Imzadi 1979  18:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Tom, please stop creating new articles now - Imzadi has given you advice about your mass-creation project above, quite a few days ago, and you've (apparently) ignored it. Pushing material into a project area when the people running the project strongly object to it, like you are doing, will be likely to get you taken to ANI and then blocked. Stop with the new articles for now, let's take a step back and see where we go next. Maybe start by replying to me at your mentoring page as well? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Mentoring: I didn't notice that on the watchlist, I'll answer some later or tomorrow. I haven't created any since the notice, however I was told by someone that it is okay, and a stub is the 'birth' of a new article. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:18, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
It would also help if you took enough time to base your creations on an acceptable source. The various parts of the AARoads website, which includes the Southeast Roads subpage that you're using are all self-published sources, and they're not appropriate upon which to base the creation of an article. Your new articles don't even specific which parish(es) (Louisiana's equivalent to a county) where the roads lie. That's a huge amount of context missing from these articles. I just had to tag 25 new articles for the project, all of which need to be cleaned up to meet minimum expectations for a highway article for the US. These aren't stubs... they're sub-stubs because of the missing information, and sometimes a redlink is more informative than a sub-stub. Imzadi 1979  19:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Question

Could I nominate you for adminship? You seem a good editor. :D --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 09:01, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Any reason why you want to nominate me all of a sudden? -- A Certain White Cat chi? 10:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I saw you come up in Recent Changes and reviewed your edits, and thought that you were ready. :) --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 10:59, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
As you wish. I am not confident that it would pass though. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 12:56, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Tom, if you are going ahead with this (I am neutral on whether it's a good idea or not), I strongly suggest that you also review the proposed candidate's past enwiki RfAs, and prepare a rationale as to how exactly - in detail - the proposed candidate's recent edits prove that they have addressed whatever the concerns were in the previous RfAs. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:02, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I share the concern. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 14:41, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I could not find the RfA links. Are there any? --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:16, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I'm not really sure I'm neutral, I think it's not a great idea (no offense whatsoever to A Certain White Cat).

Tom, one of the first interactions we had was you leaving me a message on my talk page asking if I wanted you to nominate me for admin. It struck me as very odd because I really didn't know you and was pretty confident you really didn't know about me (as an editor). Since that time I've seen you ask a couple dozen different people if they wanted you to nominate them. I believe that each has said no. One of the big reasons, and I could be off base - perhaps it's just me, is that when and if I'm ever nominated, I want it to be because someone with experience in Wikipedia has seen things that I've done, noticed my interactions with others, seen my participation in AfD, NPP, CSD, AN, etc. and come to the conclusion that I'd be a good admin. I believe that would make the nomination much more meaningful for me, and for those that are going to evaluate me. To be blunt, I want to be nominated eventually by someone whose opinion I respect, and who has the respect of the community.

I don't know A Certain White Cat from adam, and I'm sure they are terrific as an editor, but please take the advice given above and know the person you are nominating. I would hate to see an RfA go badly by a poorly conceived nomination just because an RfA nomination is on your 'to do' list. As always, just my 2 cents. Wikipelli Talk 18:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Withdrawn my idea of the RFA per finding the past RfA's and old user accounts. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:01, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Stub templates

Hi, not a big deal, but please don't move stub templates above references like you did here. Per MOS:APPENDIX stub templates should be below categories. Also, I've removed your PROD on that article – the guy is clearly notable. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 12:32, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

archive templates

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DYK nomination of Hatia Station

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New Pages update

Hey Thine Antique Pen/FULLTALK :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:39, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

AFC review

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/David Osei Opoku (edit | project page | history | links | watch | logs)

I reverted your review: This submission has inline citations (only wrongly formatted and thus not displayed, check the old submission status with the red noticeS at the bottom!) and thus your decline reason is invalid! I cleaned the submission up. Please do the review again! mabdul 11:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I won't, unless accepting. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 11:50, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

April 2012 Admin Review Comment

Hey Tomtomn00, thanks for what you said here about me. ;) Best. Acalamari 09:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem. :D --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 15:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and sorry for calling this header "April 2012"...it should have been "Admin review comment" (Firefox auto-fill, argh!). :( Acalamari 15:49, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
It's May. :) No problems. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 15:51, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
The wrong month makes it even worse. :D Acalamari 16:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
At least you didn't say the year. :D --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 16:15, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

re: Kim Brownn

well done. — Ched :  ?  17:04, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I should've noted, I recieved 2 emails, 5 mins apart. :D Also, I saw the CheckUser request, it came up on watchlist. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
protected your talk for a week ... user page is also protected (indef). — Ched :  ?  17:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

CSD on JaackMaate

Hey Tomomn00, I don't really know what I'm doing on wikipedia, but thanks for 'objecting speedy deletion' on my 'JaackMaate' page! Why do they want to delete it? And is this where I am supposed to write to you?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackfreestone (talkcontribs) 18:57, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you are at the correct place. I requested deletion as we do not want articles about YouTube accounts - unless is than account of a successful company. I have over 1 million views (8 accounts - 90-150k views each) on YouTube, and I do not have an article about myself, and do not wish to have one. Also, please read WP:GNG, WP:RS and WP:N. Thanks! --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:49, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Cluebot

Because admins make mistakes too. Hang me in the Wikipedia:Village stocks if you must, but I think you will find MUCH bigger "oops" moments there. -RunningOnBrains(talk) 16:56, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyedit

Hey, I changed a couple things on the DYK nom per your talk page comment. Good luck. :) Keilana|Parlez ici 02:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Stubs

Hi! Please see Wikipedia:Stub - "It is usually desirable to leave two blank lines between the first stub template and whatever precedes it" Kind regards Doma-w (talk) 14:59, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

  • "... desirable ..." - implying the fact it doesn't look bad, and in my oppinion, it does. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 15:06, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Bat'leth DYK

Regarding the Bat'leth DYK, I've done the citations. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 17:08, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done - Ticked it. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:25, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

May 2012

Information.svg Hello Tomtomn00. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know however, regarding Gefs Online Flight Simulator, that tagging articles for speedy deletion moments after creation as lacking context (CSD A1), content (CSD A3) and articles created through the Article Wizard, is too fast. It's best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), pure vandalism (G3), and copyright violations (G12) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. Could you possibly slow down on the speedy tagging of articles? This one was tagged within 1 minute. Hardly time to put in more information. This is a new editor and could maybe use help and guidance rather than get swatted down trying to make an article. Wikipelli Talk 13:01, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, sure! New target: do not tag an article for CSD unless it is Copyvio, or a seriously non-notable person (ex. autobio). --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:27, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
You're missing the point, Tomtom.... I don't care what articles you tag for speedy deletion. I care when you tag them. Why not give them 30 minutes or so? You have tagged several in the past few days that are perfectly viable articles, and you have done so very quickly (often within one or two minutes!). I'm not completely sure you have the necessary experience or skill to recognize notable vs non-notable that fast. Read them! Maybe take a couple seconds to leave the editor an encouraging note about what the article needs or why it might be deleted. The encyclopedia is not going to suffer very much if a non-notable article is left up for an extra 1/2 hour. It's about encouraging editors, not building up your CSD Log. Wikipelli Talk 19:30, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Okay! I will give it around 20 mins, unless it's one of the 4 stated above. For A7 I will Google Search everything first. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Compton-Belkovich

Sorry I had other things to do and now I have to go to bed. I hope I can find some day tomorrow. Keep up your good work! --Stone (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry! It's going up as a DYK on the main page at 9am BST. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 21:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


Your GA nomination of Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly

The article Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly for things which need to be addressed. GRAPPLE X 22:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage prototype released

Hey Tomtomn00! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:48, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly

Orlady (talk) 08:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Moon quadrangle

Done. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, I don't understand how the parsing works inside Template:Infobox moon hot spot data, but at present it is using Template:Mars quadrangle and therefore giving a Martian quadrangle rather than a lunar one. Perhaps you are simply still working on it? If you're taking a break from it, may I suggest you comment-out the code that gives the Martian result? – Fayenatic London (talk) 17:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done — error. Thanks for telling me! --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 17:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Point to note for RfA

Done --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 19:56, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Hello Tomtomn00, in case you didn't know that there are some things to be kept in mind while commenting in RfA's. For example, like you commented on User:Dannyboy1209 RfA Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dannyboy1209 and voting "as per another user". Although this RfA is quite likely not to get pass, but still please make sure to comment with proper reasoning and points rather than just saying "yes" on "yes" or "no" on "no". I suggest you read Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in adminship discussions and familiarize yourself with it. Thank you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 19:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done - expanded comment.

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Autopatrolled

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No. Ask later in time, this was the wrong time to say I should request rights. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 21:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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You have enough pages to get Autopatrolled rights. I suggest you have a go at getting the user right. Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 17:44, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Please take this to MBisanz's talk page (my restricter) – if you really want, or WT:PERM or WP:AN/I — as I am restricted from requesting userrights. Of course, this only means I don't spam up Special:NewPages with unpatrolled pages, which is of almost no significance to me. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 18:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for commenting Wilby, but I'm going to say no at this time given some recent speedy deletions of Tom's articles. MBisanz talk 23:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
It's not even useful to me, however it is to the community. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 23:11, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
MBisanz, am I getting better with article creation? 2GAs, 3DYKs. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 23:19, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
You are doing very well, but I think Mr Bisanz will contact Mr Suffolk about this when appropriate. autopatrolled is a very big and very scary right (I don't have it, for example), so there would need to be a clear need and confidence first. Focus on slow and cautious growth. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Tom, I haven't checked your contributions for quality, I checked them to see if you've had recent complaints about your article creations, which you have had and which is why I'm saying no on autopatrol. I don't doubt you can write, I just need confidence, as Demiurge says, that your new articles don't need patrolling. MBisanz talk 03:06, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Away from that — I'm trying for an FA. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 06:26, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


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errors in internal links and references

Hi, I looked at this article you created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangqiao,_Anqing and the township-level division link is wrong. The reference you cite is also wrong, it refers to a city in a different province that has nothing to do with the subject of your stub.

Could you please fix these errors and see if there are similar errors in other articles that you've created?

Thanks,

Azylber (talk) 16:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tomtomn00, like I said in my previous message, the same problem could exist in other stubs you've created. You deleted my message saying "DONE", but I checked your other articles and some have the same issues. Please don't delete this until you've fixed these copy-paste errors in your stubs. Thanks, Azylber (talk) 22:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Will fix later, going to go somewhere in a min. Doing... --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 06:31, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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There is a big que of articles to get reviewed and the credit goes to you. Not discouraging, but appreciating the work. That was just amazing! Keep it up please for our (new oage pattroller's) sake, go for autopatrolled TheSpecialUserTalkContributions* 20:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I've been nominated by another user and Dr. Blofeld randomly. Thanks! --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:57, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Have you considered applying for the autopatrolled right?

I'm currently over at New Pages and noticed the large amount of acceptable stubs you created. It'd be a bit easier on everyone if you applied for the autopatrolled right, which automatically marks pages you make as patrolled. It looks like you'd meet the criteria for it, so it shouldn't be too difficult. Just a suggestion. Thanks for your contributions! elektrikSHOOS (talk) 21:21, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Did you read the above? See WP:PERM/A#User:Tomtomn00. Thanks! --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 21:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

You now have autopatrolled status. LadyofShalott 21:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

FYI

I commented on you at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Re-open. MBisanz talk 22:30, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you use a script to help create those pages? Or copy & paste? OhanaUnitedTalk page 06:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Why would I use a script? I copy and paste a basic template of mine which uses {{subst:PAGENAME}} and just change the date of discovery, which takes a few seconds. Then I do 'em at once. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 07:23, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Beetle stub dispensing

Στc. 07:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll fix later in time. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 07:42, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
By the way, I'm working off this. They are in the family, and in the genus. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 07:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
A quick look at the only source on that article returns zero mentions of the string "cucujoidea". And please reread what I wrote; the Mordellidae family is of the Tenebrionoidea superfamily, not the Cucujoidea. →Στc. 07:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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Sure! --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 08:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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You should apply for AWB to make repetitive editing mistakes, would save time.. I'm not going to be here much today, I pulled my neck and back weightlifting yesterday, badly so, I can barely hold my neck up!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't Dr. Blofeld, sorry! Restricted for 'tools and rights'... --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 10:04, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Tomtomn00. Let me add to the above remarks that you shouldn't be marking these pages as patrolled yourself, either. (E.g. this one.) That's a bit of a wikiquette no-no. :) You probably want to apply for the autopatrolled user right instead. Best — Mr. Stradivarius 10:10, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

See WP:AN. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 10:14, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I see there is History here. Still, never fear, if the articles are ok then someone else will mark them as patrolled. It's not such a big deal if the articles you write are highlighted in yellow on Special:NewPages for a few more days. — Mr. Stradivarius 10:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
I would've prefered a vote on getting them removed though. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 10:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── To make this clear, I did not mark my own creations as patrolled. They were patrolled automatically when I had the right. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 11:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done — it is also in the family you stated. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 18:34, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Categories

See my change here. The proper categories to use are Category:Animals described in WXYZ, not just the year supercategory. LadyofShalott 20:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I will in newer articles, okay? I translude a basic template now (subst of course)! --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:21, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, I fixed one for you. I don't know how many you did like that. Please fix any that you made with just the year category. LadyofShalott 20:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Don't worry, I did two. :D --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:28, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Egon Balas

Hello, the copied information are public information (positions, awards), but if you consider this is not OK, please remove the article. Wikizoli (talk) 17:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done — article under rewrite by another user. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Remove Autopatrolled template from user page and user talk page; Comment on Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled

Hello there, as you might already know it is not allowed for any user to keep a user right template on their user page or talk page claiming that they have a user right which they actually do not have it. So i request you to kindly remove the Autopatrolled top icon template from both from your user page and user talk page. Also when commenting at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled you added the {{done}} template for a comment. It is used by administrators to show/indicate approved requests only, so be careful from next time. Thank you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

My autopatrolled was revoked per AN discussion. Removing. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 Done --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 20:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Er, TheGeneralUser, can you say where it says that {{done}} can only be used by administrators? I'm pretty sure that's not true. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
The RFPERM pages are archived by a bot that checks each request for {{done}} or {{not done}}. Usage of those templates may confuse the bot. →Στc. 01:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I'll concede. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 01:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Calling all Talk Page Stalkers

Could someone outline any issues with my stub template I am using? The output of the newest one is at Mordellistena indifferens. I will fix any issues. --Tomtomn00 (talkcontributions) 21:34, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

TAP

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First to type a message here, using non-antique equimpment. I liked your old name better. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Heh. This is from Shakespeare. At least I still own Tomtomn00. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 12:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Ooh.. I'm at the top of Google now. See this. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 12:14, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Hello, Thine Antique Pen. You have new messages at Deathlaser's talk page.
Message added 12:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Deathlaser :  Chat  12:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC) ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yeah can you give Deathlaser some guidance with ‎Mordellistena liljebladi.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

He's continuing to create others. I've spoken to him but he thinks we're attacking him.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Careful, Mordellistena lonai etc still have Costa, 1854 in the infobox..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:03, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... According to the source, it's correct. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

What discovered in 1854 yet the body and category says 1949? Also, today's date is 20 May...♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I know. I'm blaming the template today! (temp.) — also, the 1854 bit is when the genus was attributed to the person, even if it was not complete. See this. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
No, I don't think that.--Deathlaser :  Chat  13:35, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Even if you were swearing at me I would not think that. I have No Emotions.--Deathlaser :  Chat  13:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I arcknowledge what you say and my recent ones should be better.--Deathlaser :  Chat  13:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Old account

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I see you used your old account since getting the new name. Please don't continue to do this. Only use the new name. LadyofShalott 13:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I need to change username on many wikis still, if I bother to. I was just checking if I could still log in, which I could. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:39, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Isn't that sockpuppetry.--Deathlaser :  Chat  13:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Nope, first because I only made one edit — which was on my talk page confirming the rename for the diff for meta and commons to rename. It's going to become my public user someday. :) --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't get anyone else involved

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message As an apology, I hope you accept it and put the past behind.Deathlaser :  Chat  16:17, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Forgot :) --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, am I forgiven.--Deathlaser :  Chat  13:51, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Beetles

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Could you please take a look at my comment at: User_talk:Deathlaser#Stubs? Thanks Ruigeroeland (talk) 15:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Looked. Mine just reach the stub barrier. I've listed deathlaser's article mistakes here. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 15:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Ok, so what should I be doing.--Deathlaser :  Chat  15:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Why make a list anyway.--Deathlaser :  Chat  15:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
A list of things for me to correct. Something like this. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 15:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Ray the beetle guy

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Hi. In your new beetle article (Pseudotomoxia albonotata) it says it was discovered by Ray. (I don't know whether it means he found it, classified it, or both.) It made me smile to read it though. I just get this mental picture of an enthusiastic guy named Ray, armed with a screwtop jar, hunting for insects! In reality he's simply got one of those surnames also used as a first name. I think, you're referring to naturalist Eugene Ray. --92.6.200.56 (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

 Yep, Corrected. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

() On a closer look I'm not sure if the whole taxonomy is right. :-\ Perhaps you could look into it. The list used as a ref seems unsure if it's a nom. praeocc., what it comes under or what to call it period. See also Tomoxioda, Tomoxia, Pseudotomoxia which overlap/relate. ITIS doesn't seem to think it exists. Also don't take this the wrong way...but I don't think Wikipedia:WikiProject Beetles is a genuine WikiProject. It was just a page created one day by a sockpuppet of an indef-blocked user. --92.6.200.56 (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Still, it's there. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 22:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes like the page "WikiProject Sauropodomorphs" he created the same day & the page "WikiProject Theropods" he created 2 days before, the page is there. --92.6.200.56 (talk) 22:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

United Kingdom roads

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If you are into roads, we could definitely do with having stubs filled into the redirects of all of the A roads of the UK in the articles of Template:United Kingdom roads. Ideally we'd have articles on all of the B roads too.. You could probably create some stubs using google maps to find length.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

BTW I spotted errors, Stenalia atricolor you claim 1926, 1957 and 1856 all in the same article!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:57, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

 Corrected — the Genus Authority doesn't matter I think, because it is the person and the date the Genus was attributed to them. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 18:07, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Jacobus Deketh

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FYI, a GA Reassessment of Jacobus Deketh has been opened, which you can find here. Malleus Fatuorum 19:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

 I saw it earlier on my watchlist. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Adele

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Still a bunch of dead links but the article is in a lot better shape then the slapdash nature of it at the beginning of the year. Nominating even if the article is not accepting helps clarify issues. Edkollin (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

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(talk page stalker)This reference: "'2009 American Music Awards' Nominees Announced". Reuters ("ABC"). 13 October 2009. Retrieved 13 October 2009, was added by tomtomn00 for the "Awards" section. It doesn't seem to mention Adele. Am I missing it? Also, this ref: "Artist Chart History – Adele". Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc. Retrieved 4 February 2009..." Doesn't seem to support the mention that she has won "65 awards to date" (and, really, how could it if it was retrived almost 2 1/2 years ago!) I'll bite my tongue and assume good faith that they weren't just copied from List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Adele (#s 3 and 1 respectively) without being checked first. Wikipelli Talk 20:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I'll rewrite and do some fixes when I have PC access. Facepalm. -Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
And did you really retrieve those back in 2009 and just waited until yesterday to add them to the article? Odd... Wikipelli Talk 21:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's an accessdate, so I often use it as today's date, or the date it was publically accessed. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

It's meant to be the date you looked at it. LadyofShalott 21:50, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
As I say, I'll fix it up when I'm off my BB PlayBook and on my Mac again. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm not at all sure what "the date it was publically accessed" means. There is no date at all on the Billboard site so I don't know how you arrived at the February 4, 2009 date. It is something of a coincidence that it's the same date that User:Another_Believer accessed the article when they created it back in 2009. Wikipelli Talk 22:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
This discussion does not serve any purpose now. LadyofShalott has informed Thine Antique Pen that the accessdate should be the date that he himself confirmed the reference. Thine Antique Pen has indicated he won't be able to change it until tomorrow. Nothing more to do here. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────  Corrected. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 07:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

SUL

(For French Wikipedia - usurp) — I confirm, I am Tomtomn00 globally and wish to rename myself. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 07:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Norfolk County Council

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Norfolk County Council at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Wikipelli Talk 11:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Always look in google books here. Also you can paste a book url into here and it will make a full ref for you to copy. I can show you how to program it into your itinerary if you like.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

My apologies

I'm really sorry - I've just realised that by leaving you that message yesterday I unwittingly gave you a lot of grief. If I had checked around a little bit more before writing it, I might have realised that the patrol log I saw was due to the autopatrolled user right, and saved you some of the hassle you got. My timing probably couldn't have been worse, with all the discussion at WP:AN and all those eyes on your talk page. So please accept my apologies for goofing up good and proper, and for causing you what must have been a lot of distress. Let me know if there's anything I can do to make it up to you. — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 13:34, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Nothing much you can do, it's done now, I was de-autopatrolled. So, nothing much. Face-smile.svg. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Stud

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I wrote all those articles can you please review them.--Deathlaser :  Chat  16:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

See my comment on your talk first. Anyway, these are good for now. Carry on like that. Face-smile.svg. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
All the Pseudotomoxia ones.--Deathlaser :  Chat  16:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Yep. (I moved your comment). Oh, by the way, it's 'stub', not 'stud'. Face-smile.svg --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:21, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
By the way why were you de-auto-patrolled.--Deathlaser :  Chat  16:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Per previous (ancient) history of article creations. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:54, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Give me the thread where this happened, tell me exactly what happened.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:01, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Note, I was renamed recently, can't find diffs. It was over a history of around 4/5 articles (not what I make now, or have made in a while), out of my 750~. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
See, we are not all perfect.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Your articles must have been really bad for your autopatrolled to be removed. What was it?--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:07, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── No, it was technically never granted. I've requested a lot of userrights, and ended up with a topic ban from requesting them. I got nom'd by 3 editors for autopatrolled, was accepted, then removed per topic ban. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

So why were you topic banned?--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
I said didn't I? I was topic banned from requesting userrights, which I have not done, I've only been nominated. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
"Technically never granted"!? My foot. I did grant it,and then found out I was in error to do so. Please don't lie about it. DeathLaser,see WP:AN#Help? and its subsections. LadyofShalott 17:12, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Maybe you didn't ask for it, but it was granted. LadyofShalott 17:13, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm trying to put it in a simple way. So technically it was granted, but without permission at AN, so was later removed. Confused myself now. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:16, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
So all this time you were lying to me, or trying to "confuse" me. I will get someone else to review my articles.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Nope, I confused 'myself'. Putting it in more advanced terms;

  1. I was topic banned from requesting userrights
  2. I was nominated for autopatrolled
  3. I became autopatrolled
  4. I went to WP:AN looking for help on the matter
  5. I stated that I didn't care if it was removed
  6. Removed, as I had not got permission from WP:AN to get the right.

--Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

you said "I was topic banned from requesting userrights" but why, are you trying to tell me people get topic banned like that for no reason.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:32, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
This may be scary; I requested 36 userrights. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
What were you thinking, user rights are not trophies. Compared to your biggining I am actually quite Good.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
LOL.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:39, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
*sigh* You cannot be "nominated" for autopatrolled - unless, of course, someone else files the request on your behalf (which they should never do). Someone may suggest you get it, but not nominate you. Just like I cannot nominate you to eat ice cream; I may suggest it, but you may or may not based on many things (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:48, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
...and WP:AN does not need to approve you obtaining any rights - they can, however, be taken away there (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Well, someone 'filed' the request without me knowing, and I saw it on my watchlist. Anyway, if I ever want rights, MBisanz said I have to go to WP:AN requesting that I can request them. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:54, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

No more lies from now on....I may be new but I am not and Idiot.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Not the case, as this is more of the case: I didn't know that at all. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 18:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Trouted

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You have been trouted for: Requesting 36 user rights.

Over 2 months. That's gotta be a record. LOL. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
That must have really winded up the admins.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:43, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Hmm... By the way, as a public service announcement: "I'm often an idiot — deal with it". Face-smile.svg --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
And I was just about to nominate you for adminship as well, maybe that's not such a good idea now.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I would've declined and trouted you many times! </sarcazum> Come back in a year. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Hrere's what!

Here is what you need to do:

  • Stop visiting my talk page
  • Don't comment on me anywhere on this wiki
  • Don't critisize and attack me like you did on sunday
  • I will not do the same to you

This is to prevent further disruption and accusations-I personally don't want an intervention ban.--Deathlaser :  Chat  16:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

First point, I don't visit there anymore. Second, there may be times which are needed, even if good. Third, 'criticize' — It was meant to be just something to point out to you, and what you should do in later times – I'm glad you made the stubs better. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:08, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
One final thing, on your /TAPmistakes page — blank it and change the content to {{db-userreq}} then it will get deleted quicker in the correct way. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm not trying to attack you and that but you say one thing and Sharlott says another thing - And guess who gets blamed? (ME).--Deathlaser :  Chat  16:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I give the most basic of ideas, LadyofSharlott gives more advanced, better ones. That's the reality. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 17:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Beetle stubs

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Since Deathlaser delete my comment, I am adding it to your talk page if you dont mind. I think you read it, but just to be sure. Anyway: I dont know why that many people are interested in making beetle stubs all at once, but you seem to be one of them. Sadly, everyone making them is making the same mistakes. Might I give you some pointers? You should add the "species", "binomial" and "binomial_authority" parameters to your taxobox and lose the genus authority (since your article is about a species and not the genus). Furthermore, the name of the species in the first line of text should be bold and italic. And please, could you at least add some info about the species to the article? The bare minimum would be the distribution (where does this species live?). Have a look at Mordellistena martapurana. I changed everything that needs changing to the taxobox. Furthermore, the distribution is listed on the site you use as a reference. It is found behind the species name in brackets. Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:03, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying a new mass creation template to fix this. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 09:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Add the name of the authority, not only the year. See Mordellistena neglecta. Furthermore: if there are brackets (i.e. "(Walker, 1855)" instead of "Walker, 1855"), please leave them. They mean something (they mean the species was originally described in another genus). Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Furthermore: I would suggest you drop the superfamily from the text. There is no need to state it, because it is already mentioned on the family page. Also: family names should not be in italics. Last: it would really be best if you add the distribution of the species. It is found on the site you use as a reference like I said earlier. You could also try google and (if it is a European species) Fauna Europaea (http://http://www.faunaeur.org/) Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
One last thing: say "described by ... in ...". It might have been discovered much earlier, but the date tells us when it was described. That is a difference. Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Could you take a look at my template? User:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox2. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 09:57, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I changed some small things. I hope you dont mind. Ruigeroeland (talk) 10:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Regarding your question "How do you use #titleparts to only take the second part of the title?": I dont know. I only make articles manually. There must be someone who can help you out, but I really wouldnt know who I'm afraid. Regarding you "RFA candidate" remark: I am happy to not be an admin to be honest. I like spending my time making and improving actual articles instead of meddling into wikipedia policies and settling disputes. :) Ruigeroeland (talk) 10:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I guess. Face-smile.svg --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 10:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

See I am not the only one making mistakes. Maybe I should make a list of your mistakes, see how that feels.--Deathlaser :  Chat  16:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
It's been done, many times for me. Face-smile.svg — page up for U1. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
The binomial authority is still not okay. The brackets should enclose the name AND year, not only the year. So not "Walker (1810)", but "(Walker, 1810)". You should also seperate the name and year with a comma. Furthermore, if you dont add any more info, there is a serious risk that your articles will be turned into a redirect to the genus page, since you provide no more info than available on the genus page already (the name, ref and authority are also provided on the genus page, so what is the added value of your article?). I will not do this myself because I dont really agree with doing this, but I know of some administrators who do. Just to give you a heads up and potentially save you a lot of useless work and irritation. If articles like the ones you make appear about moths and butterflies, I expand them, but I do not have the time to expand all of your beetle articles and in my experience, there are no other active users who will. Ruigeroeland (talk) 13:21, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'll change it. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but you still make some mistakes and if you mass create articles, you should not make mistakes. Regarding the Orthomegas articles: in the species parameter in the taxobox, the genus name should be shortened to O. (it should be written in full in the binomial parameter though). Regarding brackets around the authority: only use brackets when the source does. Dont ADD them if they are not there in the source. Like I said earlier: they actually have meaning. Furthermore, PLEASE add the distribution. The source has it listed right beside the species name. It is hardly any more work to do so and you save others the trouble of having to do it for you. Ruigeroeland (talk) 07:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

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China

If you look at a global map coverage on wikipedia in relation to the country area is not bad. But if you examine a map of China in particular the coverage on here is shocking beyond belief. In relation to the population of China representing 1/5 of the world population roughly and the sheer number of towns with sizeable populations, some with millions still missing on wikipedia I personally see improving coverage of China one of the most important priorities for the whole website. Whilst Jaguar's new stubs are far from ideal as a start, I appear to be the only one who can really see the importance of having encyclopedia articles on them. We could potentially have hundreds of articles on topics within each township. Some townships cover tens of thousands of square kilometres. China and much of Russia is a blackhole on wikipedia in terms of knowledge. We should really be trying to organize something which can productively and efficiently produce articles on them and overide the articles. Nuking them all in my opinion is not a move forward, problematic or not. They could be recreated by a bot, as indeed could most articles on species. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

My reason to nuke them is the sheer fact that it would take longer for any bot under policy or living human to fix them. My stubs at least have the correct source for every article. With Jaguar's stubs, it would be quicker for a bot to create them all, with automated Chinese translations, leading to the correct references and coordinates. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:23, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I've added a proposed resolution there. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Well lets face it, he isn't going to is he... I'd be interested in seeing the programming behind the Chinese bot.., But above all my best advice to you personally would be to stay well away from ANI like I generally do as ANI has a way of turning the tables on you, and it might be you being attacked before long. It attracts all sorts of malicious assholes who exist on here purely to try to cause drama and attack other editors rather than focus on what we are really here for.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, with my 600 stub category fixing which took 4 solid hours, I worked out it would take him around 24 hours of non-stop work, as there is more work involved. I often stay away from ANI, but I once contacted Jaguar about the Chinese articles, and he said that he would 'love' creating many more of the same ones. I didn't reply to the email. Anyway; thanks for reviewing my DYK nom! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Narborough Railway Line

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Adoption

Hello Thine Antique Pen! Of course I would love to be your third adopter. I run an adoption school, which has been praised by many users. I'll be happy to adopt you because I enjoy working with others – especially to help them become a better editor on Wikipedia!

Take a look at my edit history; I usually work at Articles for Deletion, Articles for Creation, in new page patrolling, and in vandalism-fighting. I have been an editor on Wikipedia for a year, and have made over 15,000 edits to the encyclopedia.

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If I adopt you, I promise I will provide you with the most friendly, easy, and convenient adoption service through my adoption school. If you think I am the right adopter for you, we shall get started now! →Bmusician 01:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

He's already quite far into course (you're not the only person borrowing it, and Worm adapted large parts of it from elsewhere too), so something a bit different is needed :) But I'm sure a third adopter would work well! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I know that I'm quite far, but a third would be best! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 06:27, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Awesome. I'll create the adoption page and we can decide what lesson we can start with. →Bmusician 04:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
So I've created your adoption page at User:Bmusician/Adoption/Thine Antique Pen. Have a look! What lesson do you think we should start with? Take a look at my lesson book. →Bmusician 05:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I'll do them in order, Five Pillars please! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 07:45, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Assignment fresh on your adoption page. Face-smile.svgBmusician 12:42, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

A request

Thine Antique Pen, I think it's best if you stay away from User:Deathlaser. Your AfD nomination of MyMaths has all the hallmarks of retaliation for their "delete" comment at the AfD for I am learning. Deathlaser has asked you to stay away, which he reiterated here, Wikipedia:Help_desk#Thine_Antique_Pen. I suggest you do that; it'll be much better for the climate here. I don't want to have to go to ANI to request the community for some kind of interaction ban. There are plenty of other articles to work on besides theirs. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I am staying away now. I wanted to fix up the stubs, I now can't. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 15:56, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Was that what was listed on that subpage? Well, there's plenty of stubs that needs work... Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:10, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
A list of the Mordellistena— stubs that he made. Most of them needed to meet MOS:BOLD (like many stubs), but that was only something. Nothing major. Only 19 articles. See my userpage in the Articles Created section for examples of stubs. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I am prepared to overlook all three things you done wrong, as long as you don't do them again. So please, fix my stubs and No more retaliations or attacks on my Talk page.--Deathlaser :  Chat  21:09, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I've fixed up one as an example. See this. Thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:13, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I think y'all are just feeding each other errors. See my corrections to that and other articles listed on my talk page. LadyofShalott 22:28, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I am aiming for my corrections to be done in 2 weeks. First - the species authority, second week the abbreviations. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 22:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Request

Your userpage seems fine now =). ResMar 19:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Thine Antique Pen/Adminship Nominations/Crisco 1492

My own CSD notice...

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Question

I'm just curious, how do you go and take away one user's DYK icon [19] because they didn't get credit for it, but add a Featured List icon for yourself [20] (for an article that was promoted to Featured List 2 years before you had an account! [21]) and think that makes you eligible for triple crown [22]? What exactly is your thinking on 'credit where credit is due'? Wikipelli Talk 14:08, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

It is for significant contributor. I'll remove it though. With FC/GA you don't get credits, just good faith is assumed. I'm trying to work up something in my userspace now. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 14:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Adminstats

You shouldn't really be using adminstats. Can you please remove it?—cyberpower ChatOnline 16:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Zapped from known place. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:16, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I have developed a patch for TPBot, TParis will be putting in place soon, that will deny access to any non-admin.—cyberpower ChatOnline 16:26, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Done

Glipidiomorpha articles  Done.--Deathlaser :  Chat  16:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

See what I changed here. I'll fix the rest up for now, but take this into account please! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 Done fixing them. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 16:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
You are on my watch-list. No need to go through my request just to grab my attention.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:17, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Interaction with Deathlaser

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Why did this occur, after you have been asked twice to keep away from him? →Στc. 21:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Asked twice? Well, he's been saying for me to fix up the stubs, which I did. I've dealt with the matter with my mentor. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:13, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't think this was really a problem Tom, but discussing something completely unrelated at a request for permissions page (or anywhere else unrelated) isn't incredibly helpful and just confuses people. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 21:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
I did say to move it to my talk. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Whether you said "move it" to your talk or not is irrelevant - you shouldn't have posted there in the first place. Right?
However, for everyone else's benefit, I will note that Deathlaser continued posting on TAP's talk page even after making the requests to "stay away". Can't have it both ways. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Despite all that have happened I gave him loads of extra-chances to redeem himself(I think the count is up to 6 now). However, giving him a 7th chance seems a bit ridiculous.--Deathlaser :  Chat  15:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Deathlaser, this is getting a bit ridiculous now. If you are unable to get along with Thine Antique Pen, then stay away from him. Starting with not posting on his talk page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── What do you mean by 'redeem' myself? You still post here, and if you want a ban between us, you should look at the history. You still post here... --v/r; tap/tom @ 15:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't want a ban.............but you keep argueing.--Deathlaser :  Chat  15:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
What do you mean by 'argueing' — 'arguing'? Well, I'm not. It's just the point. --v/r; tap/tom @ 15:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Then what do you call this.--Deathlaser :  Chat  15:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
What do I call that, eh? I call that participating in discussions, not arguing. Sometimes if someone would've made 60 stubs, and 11 of them have errors, the request may be declined. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 15:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Deathlaser, please stay off my talk page. Thank you. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 15:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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I imagine he's asleep by now (he'd better be!) However, since he's edited this evening (local time), I assume the autoblock is now fixed. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Great :) Sorry for being late to the game - I finally got my internet back after an outage and I wanted to drop a note here first thing in case he was still being affected. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 03:25, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
How do you know he's "asleep".--Deathlaser :  Chat  15:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Eh, I reset the router, fine now. Deathlaser, it's about timezones. UK. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 15:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, my English is not too perfect so please excuse it, however I see you are frequent editor and writer of articles as well as near native francophone speaker, so I propose you translate more Abbaye de Chaalis (from French wiki) as the Chaalis Abbey corresponding page in English is a ébauche- as I believe they call it. I grew up in Oise and visited l'abbaye some times before, I know you write many articles and are busy but I just want to know if you have time for translating some little more of this information, est-ce possible? Or point me in the direction for how to do translation, is there required program etc.? I do not know if French wiki has direction for such task, however if you can find it I would like to know it because it is not easy for me reading longer directions in English. Also if it is complicated for explaination of translation I hope it is not too much if you use French for explaination, again sorry for my bad English!! Merci beaucoup, Gérard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.78.111.197 (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Dual accounts

Hi there, I see that your alternate account at User:Tomtomn00 is still receiving posts and looks like an active primary user talk page. You had a message from another editor about the GA mentors list which still has your old user name active upon it. I think it might be a good idea if you went round any pages such as this where your old user name is present and redircted them to your new one. Plus in that particular case, I think the advice to remove yourself as a GA reviewer is good. Get a little more experience under your belt or people are likely to think you are badge-hunting!

If the old account is purely for occasional use in public places the I think it would be less confusing if you made a hard redirect from the alternate to the main account, which would prevent any further confusion about accounts. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 10:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Explain? --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Honeypot Wood

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Hi. I had a quick question for you about an account I came across in the NewUsers list. Do you happen to know anything about User:Eater anann or User:Michael Barboz? TNXMan 20:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Email sent with info. Please keep private as I request with emails. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 22:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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GA review

Ah I see you snapped up my new GA nom quickly after I promised to review your nomination. Thanks for that, I will review yours later this evening. Regards.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:57, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I often take a look in my spare time. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 15:59, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

So I see, most flattered. Regards.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:00, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

IN the refs, can you place all author surnames before first name and also ensure all of the dates are formatted the same way? Also if you could blue link those remaining festivals..♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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CSD log

How did you set up your CSD log? I set my twinkle preferences to do it, but it doesn't seem to have done anything, yet I speedied two yesterday, and it isn't in my contribs, so I guess they've been deleted.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 19:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)::

Create User:Gilderien/twinkleoptions.js with the content from User:Thine Antique Pen/twinkleoptions.js and clear catche. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 20:07, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 20:29, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks and advice

Thank you for the barnstar. It's depressing to have to delete so much, but that's the downside of an anyone-can-edit site; I have been pushing the idea that we should make it rather clearer at sign-on time that Wikipedia is not like Myspace and that "anyone can edit" doesn't mean "anyone can put in whatever they like".

One piece of advice - you are tagging A3s like Kinathukadavu-Ramesh and MS SeaFrance Renoir rather too quickly. The first was obvious spam, but the second was evidently trying to make an article. People ought to wait to press "Save page" until they have assembled something that looks like an article, but newbies don't know that, and often put in a few words and press "Save page" to see how it looks: it is discouraging if a speedy tag pops up soon. For A1s or A3s you should normally wait 10 - 15 minutes to see if anything more appears - see {{uw-hasty}}. If not, one can give advice about how to make a userspace draft - see what I have added to User talk:Bennyboy2012.

Keep at it: New Page Patrol sours the soul, so that it is too easy for one's attitude to change from "Is there a possible article here?" to "How can we get rid of this?"; but it's a vital part of keeping the encyclopedia going. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:01, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 10:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for !voting

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Thank you, Thine Antique Pen, for !voting at my successful RFA and serving as nominator. I grant you this flower, which, if tended to properly, will grow to be the fruit of Wikipedia's labours.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up
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Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago.

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Tiens, voilà du boudin

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Joel Hallan’s Biology Catalog

Explained

Hey Pen, thanks for creating the new Coleoptera articles. You should be aware though that Joel Hallan’s Biology Catalog isn't a good source to use for taxonomy. A lot of his taxonomy is really, really, really outdated, like it includes taxons that haven't been used for 100 years. I'm only familiar with arachnid taxonomy, so his beetle taxonomy might be more up to date, but you should use it with skepticism. Kaldari (talk) 20:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Heh, I'll change source when I've done 1000 species beginning with the same genus, as I have checked and it is updated for that specific genus. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 20:49, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Cool, glad you're double checking :) Kaldari (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Yep, I do before I make another batch of stubs. (I do them in about 20s, and I've done about 1220). Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
I've added another reference and an external link into my mass-creation template. No worries. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 21:24, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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Nice

Nice, I can finally post here again. So, can I plz have some more of those stubs to create.--Deathlaser :  Chat  19:40, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Have a stab at Neocurtimorda. :) --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Example please.--Deathlaser :  Chat  19:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
BTW:Great Userpage.--Deathlaser 19:48, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Evil! See Neocurtimorda aequatorialis for example. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:50, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 Done.--Deathlaser 20:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── These are the things I found;

  • You need to include the binomial and binomial_authority in the Taxobox.
  • You need to update the accessdate.

Regards, --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 20:05, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Give me more for tommorow.--Deathlaser 20:21, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Variimorda. I'd like you to be independant and work out how to make one without me. Then you should find the articles.--Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 20:23, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Referencing Tool

CSD'd

what does this template do? it seems to require a large set of subpages of the form Template:Referencing Tool xyz, but there are currently none other than "undefined", so I am guessing this template is broken? if so, we should just delete it? Frietjes (talk) 20:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Delete. Idea failed. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 20:59, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Done. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 22:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Cheeseburger.png You must be hungry after all that work. Arcandam (talk) 23:36, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Yep, nom. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 09:05, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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WP:AUTOPATROLLED

Please get this!!!! It will help all of us new page patrollers so we will not have to go through and manually check all of your stubs. kthxbye. "Pepper" @ 10:54, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm topic banned from requesting userrights. It doesn't mean that I can't be nominated, but there will end up being an AN discussion probably. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 10:55, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gastropods#Participants

Consider joining. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Hell yes.  Done Face-smile.svg. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:00, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Excellent. Nudibranchs etc. are great. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:09, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Serious: Removal of your topic ban

Hi. I was considering the fact that you've been a better editor, and you have not been requesting any rights, do you want your topic ban to be lifted? I'm thinking about starting a ANI discussion to lift your topic ban. Your article creation is killing all the NPP'ers, and henceforth if you receive Autopat it'll be great. Dipankan (Have a chat?) 11:07, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay then! It would be WP:AN. As invariably, just my abhorrent contemplations. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
I suggest waiting a while, as has been recommended elsewhere, for example at Worm's talk page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 11:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
But it's useless. I believe that TAP won't be asking for rights unless it's far emergency. (And others may well nominate him) I really have the mercy. EVIL! MWAHHAHAHA! Dipankan (Have a chat?) 15:15, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Take me there then, I don't mind! If a component of the community postulates that I'll get it abolished, allow them to it! Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 19:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Mordellistena

Consider adding the following to the talk pages of the stubs you created:

{{WikiProject Insects|class=Stub|importance=Low|needs-photo=yes}}

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:09, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll do 'em once I finish the batch of 1000, I hope. I might ask someone with AWB to do it, as they could just go through a list I've got. As invariably, just my abhorrent contemplations. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll do it on User:Thine Antique Pen Sock, so I don't get my % of article namespace edits messed up. :) --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
It's at WP:AWB/TA. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Good plan. 2 tips:
1) When adding {{Mordellistena-stub}} to the bottom, bump it down 5 spaces or so. It makes the article look better.
2) Google: Do A Barrel Roll
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:20, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Heh, LOL. I will, don't worry! --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:23, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

GA

See Mechanical pest control.--Deathlaser (talk) 11:28, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I'd say it would need to be expanded about 3x before it meets the bare minimum. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 11:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
What about now.--Deathlaser (talk) 12:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

You're already 573rdDr. Blofeld 16:16, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Deathlaser, I wouldn't worry much about article length - it has been experimentally proven that article length is not a barrier to GA or FA. References are far more important than length.
Interesting article. I would elaborate the individual sections, and, because the lead should summarise the article (WP:LEAD you will have to read that and many other MoS pages if you want to achieve a GA), rewrite the lead from scratch only when the article is mostly finished. Στc. 22:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
What about now?--Deathlaser (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Still no. I would advise you to take a look at some of my Good Articles. What are your thoughts on Compton–Belkovich Thorium Anomaly and Megitza? I have also created another article which I have nominated for GA, which is The Wedding Dance. Regards, TAP 20:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Same size, just looks better and sounds more professional-can you tell me what's wrong?--Deathlaser (talk) 20:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
First, you need severe copyediting on the article. Second, I believe it does not cover enough to become GA status at the current standing. --TAP 20:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
So, what does it not cover?--Deathlaser (talk) 20:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It does not cover GA-class material. I have a suggestion for you. I chopped lots of waffle out of the lead just now, but I want you to expand the lead. Summarise the basic points of the article in it, don't list the methods, just say one or two. Regards, TAP 20:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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