User talk:Through Blue
Genealogy is of value when it contributes to the article: being accurate, verifiable, and relevant. I have been removing genealogy that is not. This is not WP:Vandalism. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. If you have an issue about a particular edit, that is what Talk pages are for. Agricolae (talk) 21:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- Blanking to damage a page is vandalism. Removing irrelevant nonsense is not. You may not agree with the edit, but dismissing it as vandalism is not legitimate. Agricolae (talk) 21:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Of your three references, one is over 150 years old and the other two don't have the information on the stated pages, at least in the editions I found on line. That is not verification. They were all written before either of us were born, ignoring the fact that scholarship has progressed. For a scholarly analysis of the origin of the Angevins see:
While a web page, this is a peer reviewed analysis of the issue, formally published on line and written by a Fellow of the American Society of Genealogists, and as such represents verifiable expert information regarding the state of the evidence. Note particularly "The name of Foulques's father is confirmed by a charter of 929 [Cart. S.-Aubin 1: 203-4 (see below)], but nothing else is known about him."
Christian Settipani also addresses it, again dismissing the earliest information as legend.
Christian Settipani, "Les comtes d'Anjou et leur alliances aux Xe et XIe siècles", in K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, ed., Family Trees and the Roots of Politics (Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1997): 211-267.
Also an analysis by Cawley, placed online by the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, dismisses the Charlemagne link, as do two scholarly analyses of the descendants of Charlemagne, by Werner and Brandenberg.
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