User talk:Thryduulf

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For your help with April 21, 2005 Stubsensor cleanup project you are hereby given the Stubsensor award.
I hereby award you the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for your heroic efforts in repairing and repelling the Willy on Wheels vandal — Bratschetalk 5 pillars (KC)
This PSY is awarded for being polite, courteous, and extremely helpful to myself and other users, and as such bieng a blessing for good mental health. Awarded by PhatePunk 22:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
For your excellent contributions to Wikipedia - it is those little things that make all the difference :-) --HappyCamper 20:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I am giving you this banner star for all of your work at WP:RFD - Tideflat (talk) 01:58, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
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is hereby awarded to Thryduulf for all the work put into contributing at Redirects for Discussion and maintaining the navigational parts of the project. Quiet background work that very few see, yet it has a great effect on the projects readers! Thanks for your work in the area, Taelus (talk) 23:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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is hereby awarded to you, Thryduulf, for closing nearly an entire page of discussions, but more importantly, for all of the other thankless jobs that you do. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to echo these thanks, as I think we are some of the only admins who set foot in RfD these days :P. Thanks for helping with the backlog, all the best. --Taelus (talk) 13:44, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Fair and Helpful
Thank you so much for helping me with an article (I'm a beginner.) I have no idea what I'm doing but you helped to keep my article up after it was deleted. You also checked back up on it when the references were deleted, I just checked and saw you even helped me on listing them too, I wasn't sure how to do that either. Anyway, thank you. :] Ohthegunsofbrixton (talk) 18:33, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
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For exhibiting rational judgement on a certain list which caused considerable overreaction and worse case scenario concerns. ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:07, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
The Redirect Barnstar
Thanks for your (re)-explanation of why it [the Selby Wall redirect] was pointing where it was and why it should point to where it's now pointing Tonywalton Talk 00:11, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
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I hereby award User:Thryduulf this shiny Redirect Barnstar for their excellent work at WP:RFD. Lenticel (talk) 08:57, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
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The Technical Barnstar
For your unfailing patience and kindness dealing with VisualEditor related problems and the users struggling with them :). (also for the fantastic car analogy). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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I appreciate I already gave you a barnstar for it, but I've just looked at the feedback page for the first time since stepping off my flight, and wow: you deserve another one :). Thanks for all you've done for the VE project thus far. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:59, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For sterling work above and beyond the call of duty at WP:VE/F. You're always there, logging defects, updating replies and always with politeness and calm. NtheP (talk) 09:51, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
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thinking of options
Thank you for quality pictures uploaded, for nominating to the news, for taking care of redirects and projects, for helpful proposals and thinking of options ("I can think of at least two options"), - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Yay! You're here at the [Wikimedia UK] office! Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 15:27, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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Survey King!
You put absolutely hours of work into [the WMUK Members' Survey] and I am so so grateful! Really looking forward to finding out what worked and what didn't and making the results useful to the chapter! Thank you so much! Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 12:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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Arbitration Committee cases are inherently complicated matters. That your analysis of the case resulted in a suggestion widely accepted by participants and arbitrators alike, demonstrates it to be a brilliant idea. Congratulations! MarshalN20 | Talk 14:51, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
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Y'know what...
...Here's a barnstar. Consider this a token of my appreciation, on behalf of the project as a whole, for your contributions to this RfC, and for summarising a horribly complicated discussion into something that people could understand (and which slightly lessened my headache in closing it!). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:24, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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The Special Barnstar
Thanks for the MASSIVE amount of work and time you put into the 2013 Membership Survey. It's really excellent and I hope its something [WMUK] builds on :-) Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 15:38, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you very much for all your hard work on Wikipedia Takes UCL last week. It was an event from which we've taken many lessons and I believe that a good number of people had a very positive experience from it thanks to you and the team you managed to coordinate. Here's to the next one! ToniSant (talk) 08:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
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Chris, I'm indebted to you for your help at the Marjon event. Gil asked me to pass on her thanks in particular for your "excellent and clear explanations of the technical aspects of copyright". Next time I'm looking for helpers for an event, you'll be top of my list. Thanks again, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:21, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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For your extra effort in providing photos for an article that another Wikipedian is working on. Exemplary teamwork! Face-smile.svg w.carter-Talk 17:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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I've got to say, I've seen your comments about the place and you seem one of the more "rational observers" (if you'll pardon the pun) on the site. I think you have a good head on your shoulders. I wish others were like you! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
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Illegitimi non carborundum 7&6=thirteen () 17:17, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
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Your diligent work in the area of redirect categorization and improvement is duly recognized and greatly appreciated. You are truly one of the unsung heroes of Wikipedia, and we hope you continue to enjoy your improvement of this awesome encyclopedia! For your well-thought, detailed, and infuriatingly reasonable close here. Well done once again. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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Congratulations making WP:EFH legit. JudeccaXIII (talk) 18:13, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
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For your excellent work on Sean Hughes' biography. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:23, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

J'aime aller a la peche[edit]

For entertainment, a Napoleonic marching song - J'aime l'oignon frît à l'huile.

(It may be time to do some archiving, your Talk Page is getting laggy.) Narky Blert (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: I'll take a look at that video after I've done some archiving. Then I'll try and figure out why the awards are taking up the top of the page rather than being a side bar... Thryduulf (talk) 20:55, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
You might like Template:Barnometer as a less flamboyant way of bragging. Narky Blert (talk) 23:25, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
They used to be (and should still be) in a narrow column on the right hand side of the page so they are not flamboyant. Unfortunately at some point the code that did this has stopped working and I can't figure out why or how to get it to work again. I've asked at the help desk for assistance from someone more skilled than me. Thryduulf (talk) 23:28, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
I like all peaches too. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
@Redrose64: This is about liking fishing! Thryduulf (talk) 20:55, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
I know... thirty-some years ago we referred to the equipment as a "can of peaches". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:06, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Sources needed for Days of the Year pages[edit]

You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide. I've gone ahead and added a source to back up your recent addition to September 30. Please try to find sources for additions to these pages as the burden to provide them is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 21:46, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Geoffrey Hayes[edit]

Gnome globe current event.svgOn 1 October 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Geoffrey Hayes, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Black Kite (talk) 00:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Geoffrey Hayes image[edit]

The copyright warning you placed on File:Geoffrey Hayes.jpg claims that there is "no evidence of attempts to find a freely licensed image". Short of videoing myself diligently searching on CC Search and Google images (which I just did this morning), I don't see how I can satisfy that burden of proof. Suffice to say: I looked, I couldn't find anything. Cnbrb (talk) 10:27, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

What else have you done to see if there was a freely licensed image or an image that could be changed to be freely licensed? Have you enquired anywhere whether people have photos of him not yet uploaded would be willing to do so under a free license? If they had been dead 10 years that would be different, but the presumption that a freely licensed image is or could be available doesn't magically end at the moment of death - it gradually fades over a period of years. You also have not addressed the second point at all - we don't use free use images for simple identification. Thryduulf (talk) 10:32, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Having to wait 10 years before posting an image of a deceased person is a new one on me. I haven't seen that rule on Wikipedia, but maybe I've missed something. I researched free images as described above, but no, I haven't contacted individual people. Should I be writing to Thames TV? Does Wikipedia actually expect editors to go to those lengths? I consider my efforts a reasonable level of research; I drew a blank and uploaded in WP:good faith.
On your second point, I think you mean non-free images? And if we don't use non-free use images for simple identification, why does the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard offer that option? "This is an historic portrait of a person no longer alive. This is an historic photograph or other depiction of a person who is no longer alive. It will be used as the primary means of visual identification of that person in the article about them." Is it just setting editors up for a fall? Cnbrb (talk) 10:48, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Six months is typically what we'd wait before uploading images of people before they're cold. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:03, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you - well at least I have some sort of guideline now. I'll try to remember in future. Cnbrb (talk) 11:11, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I've complained previously about that upload wizard option. Yes it is setting people up for a fail if they use it for people who are only just dead - it should have a note that six months post-mortem is about the earliest you will get away with, but it depends how prominent the person was, how recent they were active in public, where they were (someone living in central London is more likely to have been photographed than someone living on a private island in the Seychelles or a village in the Democratic Republic of the Congo or someone who was in prison for the last 25 years of their life). Geoffrey Hayes only retired a few years ago, was living in the UK and right until the end he spoke of still being recognised - did nobody take his photograph? By all accounts he was a very nice and friendly person so would likely have posted if asked - especially when doing shows. Have you enquired whether the copyright owner of this photograph on Twitter will release the photo under a free license? Find that took less than 5 minutes, so there are likely others out there that are less easy to find. Maybe his agent will release a photo under a free license if asked a respectful time after the funeral. Thryduulf (talk) 11:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
OK i take the point. It would just be nice to have some more reliable Wikipedia guidelines to that effect. WP:NFCI makes no mention of a reasonable timescale after death. At the moment, it's far too easy for a good faith addition to Wikipedia like this to be result in a rap over the knuckles, which is bound to put off newbies (fortunately I've been around for years so I know the score). Perhaps you might consider inputting your views into getting the guidelines updated so it's a bit clearer. Go ahead and delete Geoffrey. I'll, er, zip up now. Cnbrb (talk) 11:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I completely agree with you about the guidelines, but I've long given up trying to get anything related to fair use images changed to make things clearer for anyone who isn't intimately familiar with our polices and guidelines in the area. I do enough shouting in to the darkness in favour of readers and new users at RfD, I don't have the energy to do it there too, sorry. Thryduulf (talk) 11:59, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Thryduulf, FYI: Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 69#Images of deceased persons, now a formal RfC. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018).


Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
  • Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.


  • The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
  • The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
  • Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
  • Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Taiwan stations)[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Taiwan stations). Legobot (talk) 04:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:USATC S160 Class[edit]

Please see my comment there. Tony May (talk) 10:19, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: September 2018[edit]

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