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April Wilkerson page deletion notice[edit]

Speedy deletion nomination of April Wilkerson[edit]

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This is a vanity article with promotional links to personal pages. The specified person is one of many youtubers

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November 15: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP[edit]

Wednesday November 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor) at 721 Broadway in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor), 721 Broadway
(note that we are not at Babycastles this month)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

P.S. You are also invited to Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art on Sunday November 19!

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March 21: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday March 21, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk)

P.S. You are also invited to Art + Feminism Events in the New York Metropolitan Area continuing this month!

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CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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Due to the winter storm warning, the WikiWednesday Salon & Skillshare scheduled for March 21st has been cancelled. Please consider attending one of the many edit-a-thons scheduled for this week. We look forward to editing with you soon!

--Megs (talk)

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WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday April 25th, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly WikiWednesday evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda! After the main meeting, pizza and video games in the gallery.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our agenda, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk)

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June 20: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (and Pratt Women Wikipedia Design this Saturday June 16)[edit]

Wednesday June 20, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 19:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to Wikiproject Women Wikipedia Design @ Pratt Institute School of Architecture, Saturday, June 16!

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Invite[edit]

HK Central Statue Square Legislative Council Building n Themis s.jpg Hello! I thought you might be interested in joining the Gun Politics Task Force. We work on coordinating, expanding and improving Wikipedia's coverage of topics broadly related to governmental regulation of firearm ownership. If you would be interested in joining feel free to visit the Project Page. Thank You!

75.145.160.153 (talk) 18:31, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Question[edit]

Did you read my edit summary? He changed content that he didn't mention in the edit summary. He changed content that shouldn't have been changed, there was nothing wrong with it. He didn't even try to discuss and now you've enabled that behavior by essentially tag-team edit warring with X. Is that really the hill you want to stand on and behavior you want to hold the flag for? Or do you think that starting a discussion on the talk page is the better choice rather than taking on the appearance of tag-team edit warring? You have a noted history of stating in talk page discussions where X is involved that you agree with him. And then say nothing else. This appears to be the same thing. No discussion, just revert back to X's preferred version of the article. Do you understand where I'm coming from - it's frustrating. And puts real editing at a complete standstill. -- ψλ 23:03, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Winkelevi, you shouldn't accuse anyone of tag team edit warring when you yourself wrote "Reverted to revision 847090350 by Mike03car" in an edit summary. We have discussed this before and I've shown that the majority of sources, by far, characterized Ingrahm's remarks as ridicule. We shouldn't have to have this same discussion again. - MrX 🖋 23:20, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm saying his action has taken on the appearance of it. You reverted content without noting it in the edit summary - that was dishonest. It also appears that you did it in order to revert everything I changed or added. And you did it all without discussion or attempt at discussion of any kind. Those are the facts. -- ψλ 23:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Be careful of who you accuse of being dishonest. My edit summary said "The word doesn't have to be in the source since we paraphrase. However, numerous sources do use that words and almost eve[r]y source uses an equivalent of that word." I only intended to revert Mike03, so I will restore the rest of your edit momentarily.- MrX 🖋 23:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
That makes no sense. If you had reverted him, it would have only reverted his change of the content he added/removed. It wouldn't have accidentally picked up what I added several edits prior. Can you explain how that happened? -- ψλ 23:56, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Your edit immediately preceded the one I intended to revert. It was a mistake. I apologize. Can we move on?- MrX 🖋 23:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that's true, it did. Even so, if you used "undo" or Twinkle options for rollback, it wouldn't pick up my edits on its own. Any idea how it picked up my edits? Seems like if there's a technological glitch, someone should be notified about it. -- ψλ 00:03, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Generally you both have done a good job on the article -- it looks better.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 10:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Why did you restore material when it was clear there is no consensus for inclusion in the talk page?[edit]

Tom, you are an experienced editor? Why would you restore material when it's clear there is no consensus for the newly added material? [[1]] Springee (talk) 11:21, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

I can understand that pro-NRA editors such as yourself would like to keep out of the National Rifle Association wiki-article -- well-referenced and reliable reports about a Russian operative's involvement with the NRA. It's a huge story. An indictment from the federal government. The NRA. While of course you have a right to challenge this addition, you don't have a right to keep the information out of the article during the challenge. To me, it's rather obvious that it belongs in the article.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
So is it reasonable to assume you are an "anti-NRA" editor? If you read the new articles such at the one in the NYTs it notes that the NRA was not mentioned in the indictment. Also, you are wrong about when material can be removed. At the time of removal we already had 6 editors who weighed in and half said remove. That means we don't have consensus. Since you think the material should be added, what policy or guideline supports that POV? BRD is widely cited. It says the material shouldn't be restored until consensus is reached. Do you disagree with BRD or do you think consensus was reached? Springee (talk) 13:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm not anti-NRA but I sure am anti things that it has done, friends it has, and its apparent collusion with a foreign power (Russia) to influence the 2016 election. To state it frankly, there are considerable numbers of pro-NRA editors who are actively seeking to whitewash the article of facts -- like the arrest and indictment of Maria Butina -- charged with infiltrating the NRA on behalf of the Russian government -- and trying to keep this information out of Wikipedia seems borderline sinister.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:44, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)Your feelings about the NRA matter not when it comes to editing the article. That's why NPOV policy was created. Consensus - especially when it comes to hot-topic, politically charged articles - is essential. That's why DS exists. My suggestion is you self-revert (if it already hasn't been done for you). At any rate, your emotion-based choice was inappropriate. I hope you now choose to do the right thing. -- ψλ 14:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Feelings and emotions don't matter; facts count. If consensus emerges to remove the material, I'll go with that, until then, the whole NRA-Russia-Maria link is well-referenced, relevant, and belongs in the article.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:02, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
In that regard we are in agreement. My issue is we also have policies that try to help scope articles and RfCs to do the same. I would ask, how is this new material about the NRA vs about the Russian-Trump story? What has changed about what we know of the NRA? I've suggested a compromise edit. Would you please offer an opinion on the compromise? Thanks Springee (talk) 00:26, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
First, I'd like to ask you a question -- why did you remove reliable well-referenced information?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 08:03, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Sunday July 29: Annual Wiki-Picnic @ Prospect Park[edit]

Sunday July 29, 2-7pm: Annual Wiki-Picnic
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You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Brooklyn's green Prospect Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck.

2–7pm - come by any time! Our reserved picnicking area is by Bartel-Pritchard Square entrance, located at Prospect Park West and 15th Street.
The picnic will be held by the park's Bartel-Pritchard Square entrance immediately on the lawn to your right as you walk through the lovely lotus columns.
Look for us by the Wikipedia / Wikimedia NYC banner!

We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 08:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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August 29: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday August 29, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 00:14, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

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Nomination of April Wilkerson for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article April Wilkerson is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/April Wilkerson (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DGG ( talk ) 14:44, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

September 26: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting[edit]

Wednesday September 26, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

This month will also feature on our agenda, upcoming editathons, the organization's Annual Meeting, and Chapter board elections - you can add yourself as a candidate.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 20:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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Sun October 14: Open House New York Weekend Upload Party @ NYU ITP and Indigenous People's Justice Edit-a-thon @ Interference Archive[edit]

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You are invited to join two events supported by the Wikimedia NYC community on Sunday October 14:

2:00pm - 6:00 pm at ITP, Tisch School of the Arts. New York University (721 Broadway, New York, NY)
The photo competition is at many sites all weekend, this is just the concluding event
2:00 - 5:00pm at Interference Archive (314 7th Street, Brooklyn, NY)
Note the new Park Slope location for Interference Archive

Have a WikiWonderful Weekend! --Pharos (talk) 04:56, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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History of Citizenship[edit]

Never done this, hope it's not against wiki protocol - I read and enjoyed the History of Citizenship and wanted to acknowledge your good work. Well done. A good read.Roy Scherer (talk) 12:48, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey thanks.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:57, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

October 24: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

October 24, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Triangle Arts Association in the DUMBO neighborhood of Brooklyn. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Triangle Arts Association (Suite 317 & 318) at 20 Jay Street, Brooklyn
(note this month we will be meeting in DUMBO, Brooklyn, not at Babycastles)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 01:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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Sunday Oct 28: Wikidata Birthday Party[edit]

Sunday October 28: Wikidata Birthday Party
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Wikidata, the newest project of the Wikimedia movement, went live on October 29, 2012. Please join Wikimedia New York City as we celebrate its sixth birthday at the Ace Hotel. There will be (optional) lightning talks, casual conversation, and, most importantly, CAKE!

No experience with Wikidata? No problem. This event is open to all.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues on Sunday!--Wikimedia New York City Team 15:34, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Bonus edit-a-thons on Saturday

The day before the Wikiata Birthday, on Saturday, you are also welcome to join Archtober Wikipedia Edit-a-thon @ Bard Graduate Center or Black Lunch Table @ Magnum Foundation. Please RSVP to those pages if you plan on joining.

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Corporatocracy page[edit]

Hi Tom, I've never written anybody before on Wiki. I gather from your posts that you might be a former Corporatocracy author and should know that I hope to clean up (remove) most of the complaints there in a few days, which to me seem to be a POV nit-picking tag bomber, as I explain on its Talk page. (I'm fascinated by the apparent relationship between Corporatocracy and regulatory capture, but haven't found a solid link yet.) I expect to get body slammed because the latest attacker seems to be a super editor. If you wrote any of the attacked text I'm sure you could fix it better than me, I mostly just intend to remove the blue whining and prevent the threatened "brimstone" attack/deletion/whatever. Do you know of another original author I should notify, and is this format OK? (I have no personal page.) Cheers!
--2602:306:CFCE:1EE0:24E9:66C0:58AC:4E1 (talk) 08:42, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Doug Bashford

Hi I worked on the article substantially, years ago, and it has changed substantially since then. It is one of those subjects that will attract controversy with little agreement so I am not inclined to work on it further at this point, but my advice would be to not get attached to any particular version, since it is like trying to build a sandcastle on a stormy beach.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 05:51, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Request for comment at Talk:Greg Gianforte[edit]

Hello, Tomwsulcer, I've noticed that you've taken a bit of interest in the edits to delete a "see also" section link to the Committee to Protect Journalists from the article on US Representative Greg Gianforte. Would you care to also weigh in on this issue over at.... Talk:Greg_Gianforte#Wholesale_deletion_of_"See_also"_section ? Thank you for your consideration, Critical Chris

ArbCom 2018 election voter message[edit]

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Italics for publications at John Carlini[edit]

Are you under the impression that web sites are always italicized?
Vmavanti (talk) 20:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I tried searching the style guide and it's not clear how websites are treated so I de-italicized it.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:56, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Try this: Italics.
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December 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

December 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Fordham University's Lincoln Center campus in Manhattan, near Columbus Circle. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Fordham University's Lincoln Center campus (South Lounge) at 113 W 60th Street, Manhattan
(note this month we will be meeting in Manhattan, near Columbus Circle, not at Babycastles)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Wikimedia New York City Team 03:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

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