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enfield paul (talk · contribs)[edit]

please can you return the article kingston hospital radio to my sandbox. i do not understand what you mean by redirects etc, and I find the wikipedia guidelines confusing and complicated. i work for the charity involved so am not sure how why i don't seem to be able to use our content. all i need is for someone to say do this, don't do this in relation to my article. if necessary i will move it to a special page. thanks.

Re: Howdy[edit]

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William A. Brown nominated for deletion[edit]

Continuing issue with East Coast hip hop[edit]

Hi Topbanana! You recently semi-protected East Coast hip hop due to serial abuse from an IP-user. That protection expired two days ago and someone from that same IP block is reverting (my) edits on the article. I'm still learning about managing these sorts of situations, but I'd love it if you can take a look and advise how I should proceed here. (The revert in question is 17:52, 6 May 2015‎, but I plan on making a few more edits, which might also be reverted). Many thanks for help and guidance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by J D (talkcontribs)

update: I made the change again and asked the user to provide a reference on the IP address's talk page. So far it's stuck. J D (talk) 23:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Howdy. Firstly, good job patrolling this article - it's a topic prone to opinion, he addition of unnotable artists and outright personal research. It will probably always take a bit of time and effort to maintain. The large block of text/rant being added by the IP editor has also been copied to other Wikipedia articles and posted on several other web sites and forums. I don't believe he/she is interested in merging their material into Wiki articles in a useful manner; rather they're publishing their personal manifesto to as wide an audience as possible. The best we can probably do is what's already being done - that is, watching for and reverting the addition of 'the rant', protecting articles that are the particular subject of his/her attention (although doing so blocks millions of potential useful editors from contributing) and ultimately removing their editing rights by the use of an IP block if they become an irredeemable pest.
I'll keep an eye on the article (and editor) for now and re-protect if your attempts to communicate lead nowhere. Cheers. - TB (talk) 08:13, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Ake: the Years of Childhood[edit]

FYI... you created a redirect to itself. Bgwhite (talk) 05:46, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Eeek! Silly me - all fixed now. Thanks for letting me know. - TB (talk) 08:12, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Hohe Meißner[edit]

A tag has been placed on Hohe Meißner requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

this is misspelled lemma; a detailed article can be found under Hoher Meißner. --Telford (talk) 09:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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A page you started (William Lowther Jackson) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating William Lowther Jackson, Topbanana!

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Gadget: Invention, Travel, & Adventure[edit]

Can you please delete [[Talk:Gadget: Invention, Travel, & Adventure]]? It is no longer valid after the Gadget namespace has been created. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 20:40, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I can find no such page; looks like somebody has already fixed this. - TB (talk) 16:52, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Template:User labs[edit]

I've changed the template to display a link to the Wikimedia labs user page. Yours seems to be under a different name, so please supply the template with a labsname parameter to fix the link. See the template's documentation for help. Urhixidur (talk) 15:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Never mind, I found you on Wikimedia labs. :-) Urhixidur (talk) 15:20, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Plural wikilinks to redirects[edit]

This is a minor matter, but have you considered WP:NOTBROKEN and MOS:PIPE when read together? It seems to me your edit here may not conform with the advice given in those sections. In my view, since the redirect is not broken and the plural is not a piped link, there is no reason to change [[opéra-ballets]] to [[opéra-ballet]]s, in particular since the latter is more difficult to read in the edit window. Or perhaps there is someplace else in MOS, that I have missed, which says otherwise. --Robert.Allen (talk) 19:54, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Howdy Robert. I took opéra-ballet to be a French collective noun which should not be pluralised. The redirect opéra-ballets has been marked as a misspelling (by User:Robertgreer) I believe to reflect this. Then, my French leaves a lot to be desired - if I've goofed, just fix it. - TB (talk) 08:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
If that's the case, then the spelling should be corrected, although Julie Sadie, the author of the source, uses it (she certainly knows French, but can makes errors just like any of us), but anyway suggesting to me that he composed more than one opéra ballet. Maybe it should be opéras-ballets, like opéras comiques, although with the former we're dealing with a double noun rather than a noun and an adjective, like the latter. Update: I checked Oxford Music Online, and two different articles give the plural as operas-ballets, one by James R. Anthony in Grove Music and another by Jane Bellingham in The Oxford Companion. I'll fix it. --Robert.Allen (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Good job. My own instinct would be to pluralise the term as opéras-ballet, effectively treating 'ballet' as an adjective (consider courts-martial or bateaux-grande), but there's not much evidence of this use. Your solution seems more widely acceptable - cheers. - TB (talk) 08:32, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Notifying users[edit]

Thank you for your contribution to WP:RFD. Usually it is considered good practice to notify the author of the redirect when you nominate it. I have done so for you this time, but please consider it in the future. If you have WP:TWINKLE, it makes the process super easy to do. -- Tavix (talk) 04:58, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Pooja / Puja[edit]

Hi Topbanana, Not sure whether you got the ping (It works when it wants too!), There's a discussion here about Pooja & Puja being 2 different actresses altogether so your input would be much appreciated :), Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 15:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding this: Pooja Joshi was moved to Puja Joshi and then some of the content from Puja Joshi was copied and pasted into Pooja Joshi.... I thought that meant that the attributions had been all messed up, and that's why I tagged the Pooja article for deletion, so that it could be created from scratch without any content copied from other articles. (I guess A10 was the wrong rationale, though. Sorry about that.) Of course, I could be completely wrong about this :-) --bonadea contributions talk 19:32, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Red links and other stuff[edit]

Hi! I'm looking at this tool and start to like it very much :) Maybe you can set up it also for Latvian Wikipedia? For search suggestions we (lvwiki) most probaly would gather types of them by time, but some generic (weighted distance, redirect loops, deleted articles) looks fine. Hmm... also unlikely looks very nice :) Also one question. Would such redlinks (ok, now it's a bluelink) would be catched if there is such article? I'm just checking :) --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 14:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

I have enabled the Red Link Recovery tool for the Latvian language Wikipedia and generated an initial set of 1300 suggestions for you - this'll take you to them. There does seem to be a replication problem with that particular database in tool labs, hopefully this won't prevent you from using the tool effectively. Alas the 'Unlikely Links' tool is set up for English only right now - most of the rules it uses to pick out unusual red links are language-specific and would not give sensible results in Latvian. For the [[[:lv:Monteskjē]] example you give, red links are checked against both article and redirect titles; a close match either would be picked up. If you are hoping to automatically match up 'full name' red links to 'surname only' article titles, I could try and generate a set of suggestions in RLRL for this. - TB (talk) 21:17, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Suggestions really looks fine. Monteskjē example - it will most probably generate too much false positives (surname only are a lot in disambig category), buit if it isn't taking too much resources/time from you, you could create such list at the tool or on-wiki (for example, here - feel free to put it in the redirect page and don't worry about format). Replication problem currently isn't a problem (for some time, when I do first part). I remember you and other WP:RLR people talking about marking some articles/titles as invalid - well, maybe some whitelist page at Wiki/tool? About unlikely will comment a little bit later. Anyway - thanks for the current help :) --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 17:00, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
I posted a set of 2500 suggestions for lvwiki matching red links that look a bit like two-word names against titles very similar to their last word. Hope this is useful. - TB (talk) 21:14, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't seem very helpful, so you can disable it. I think I created some 3 redirects from looking through some few hundret suggestions. OK, about unlikely titles - yes, some are usefull only for enwikiEnglish, but most of them (repeated question marks, funny quotes, mismatched brackets etc.) would most probably work for all (or almost any) language. Also two notes:
  • I think it would be helpful, if there would be some "sort" button. Most probably it is more important to fix those redlinks, which are used in many articles.
  • if we fix all redlinks or at least the most part of them, leaving only false positives, do I need to get you in touch and ask to update suggestions? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 06:40, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I have closed the 'Surnames' suggestion set on lvwiki - it's always worth trying these things, you never can tell what might work. As for unlikely suggestions, I'll try to get it set up for lvwiki some time this week. The sets of rules it uses (for enwiki) can be seen here - I'll copy them over as they are and we can remove/add/change rules to suit Latvian once we see how they behave. Sorting entries in the RLRL tool is computationally difficult - the only option available is 'likeliness', an internal metric estimating the quality of each suggestion. It may be easier and more useful to generate a new set of suggestions targeting those red links that appear on more than 5 (or 10 or 3) articles. Let me know when you need more suggestions generated; I'm always happy to do so. - TB (talk) 08:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it will be ok just to copy them as they are in English. And yes generate a new set of suggestions targeting those red links that appear on more than 5 (or 10 or 3) articles is better than my idea. I think 5 articles would be fine. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 08:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I've added two small sets of suggestions targeting red links that appear on 5 or more pages. There's something slightly odd going on with the character encoding on the Tool Labs database for lvwiki; once I work out what the problem is I'll add some more entries into each for you. - TB (talk) 10:57, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Good news - I've found and fixed the character encoding problem; there are now 200 or so more suggestions there for you. - TB (talk) 14:33, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
That's the "unlikely links" tool set up for the Latvian-language wiki now. You can find it here. Good luck. - TB (talk) 10:52, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

RLRL database public[edit]

Hi would it be possible to make the RLRL database public? It would require adding _p to the end of all of your databases (e.g. p50380g50491_rlrl_enwiki_p). — Dispenser 19:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Hey Dispenser. Checking the the RLRL databases for unsharable data and separating it out from that which should be publically available has been on my todo list for years now. I've been lazy about doing the work because I had no idea anyone anyone wanted what's in there. If you're after something in particular I'll happily grant access directly to you in the meantime; if it's general principle, I'll see about doing the necessary checks and making the change in the next few weeks. Cheers. - TB (talk) 18:56, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
The English-language RLRL database now resides at p50380g50491__rlrl_enwiki_p; it should be readable by you there. The databases for the other language/project combinations using the tool will be similarly migrated over the next few days. Cheers . - TB (talk) 09:44, 2 October 2015 (UTC)


Hi, about this message, can you please update this page too? Thanks. Rodrigolopes (talk) 22:08, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

No problem - done. TB (talk) 14:12, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Maria Isabel Rodriguez[edit]

You created a disambiguation page above. Problem is that this person María Isabel López Rodríguez would never be known as Rodríguez to a Spanish speaker, she is López. Maybe an English speaker would make that mistake so she should be left here? But if a Spanish speaker or anyone who knows Spanish were looking for her, they'd look under Lopez, and end up here Maria Isabel Lopez. If I knew how, I would make a disambiguation page for Lopez but I don't know how. Can you fix this? Thanks :) SusunW (talk) 14:49, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi SusunW. I quite agree with you - she wouldn't usually be referred to by her maternal name. The initial article at Maria Isabel Rodriguez (about the child singer María Isabel) was created by Alexanderlrs in 2005. In 2006 Urthogie noted (quite rightly) that María Isabel was a more sensible name for the article. Another article (on the same person) had been started at that title, so (s)he merged Alexanderlrs' work into and made Maria Isabel Rodriguez redirect to it. In 2010 I noticed that there were a number of other notable people with names close to Maria Isabel Rodriguez; none was an obvious primary topic so I changed the redirect into the disambiguation page that's there today.
All in all I would prefer to keep the entry for Maria Isabel on the disambiguation page; the history above shows that at least one person has not only looked for an article on her under her matronymic, but was moved to write an article on her there. Others might look under the same title again - even if just a small handful of people per year. Should the disambiguation page become too large or cluttered, I imagine she'd get weeded out along with other tenuous entries. - TB (talk) 15:12, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm not saying move it, I'm saying, perhaps badly, that another disambiguation page is needed for Lopez since there are more than one and an additional "hat" might look cluttered. SusunW (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)