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Cenk Uygur[edit]

@Trackinfo: Hey sorry to bother you but can you restore Cenk Uygur wiki page to the formation it was when you were part of discussion months ago on the armenian matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProgGR (talkcontribs) 2 August 2016 (UTC)

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Are you interested in co-submitting John W. Overton to DYK?[edit]

Great job with the article (although there is still a bit to do, I think). I would like to submit it to DYK. Since you've put in a lot of work, too, I wouldn't do so if you weren't ok with it. I'm thinking the hook should be something like "... John W. Overton was killed in World War I one year after setting the world track and field record in the indoor mile and indoor 1,000 meters races in 1917." What do you think? I would submit it jointly, although I'd be happy to do the quid pro quo. Thanks, Smmurphy(Talk) 02:39, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Lets survive the AfD attack first. I'm OK with submitting the article forward. Pluralize "records" as there are separate, multiple records. As I've said elsewhere in the AfD process, my frustration is with the overt stupidity of these nominations. Know-nothings putting articles in jeopardy. This one was in my wheelhouse, so I know where to look for sources. Even a hundred years ago, there is some documentation. Information compiled on top of itself. I can't do that in subjects I don't know as well and there aren't enough others doing it. Wikipedia is getting victimized daily by our echo chamber of uninformed and lazy, serial delete voters. So I'm writing an editorial to that effect and will see if I can find a place to post it. Trackinfo (talk) 02:48, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Not to count chickens before they hatch, but that article will certainly be kept. We have a few days before we the seven day window we have to submit it to DYK starts, but I wanted to make sure you were on board before I spent to much more time on it. I'll let you know before I do submit it, but just to be clear, here is the hook as of right now (feel free to suggest a better or ALTs): "... John W. Overton was killed in World War I one year after setting the world track and field records in the indoor mile and indoor 1,000 meters races in 1917." Thanks for the correction; unfortunately I seem to make a too many grammar and spelling mistakes.
I spend most of my editing doing WP:HEY at AfD, focusing on Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/History - particularly US history. I've done scores of HEYs myself since coming back to WP in earnest almost two years ago. I share your frustration; although I've had very very few HEYs fail, they erode time I would otherwise spend at other parts of the project. I think a number of people would like to write a similar editorial expressing similar frustrations. I, myself, often think about a statistical study of AfDs which might address some of the empirical questions that go along with such an issue, but I'm pretty sure I won't be doing one any time soon. If it would be any help, feel free to send me a draft of your editorial to look over. Also, if you are interested and thought it would help your editorial, I could compile my HEYs into a list and give you a bit of statistics on that.
I welcome your statistics. I was not even aware of it. But that is essentially my goal. Before nominating, do some research. If there is some meat to the subject, you must use that information to improve the article before, or instead of nominating it. Same for voting. You shouldn't vote if you didn't first look for information and if found, fixing the article. And (this won't be popular for sure) I think there should be a penalty for serially making bad nominations or votes. In effect, it is disruptive. Their laziness bothers a whole lot more people to look at the article, comment/vote and ultimately close the discussion. A bad nomination is disruptive. So a first time offender is put on a quota for the number of NOMs or iVotes they can make in a period of time. Subsequent bad votes reduce the quota by 50 per cent. And with a certain number of bad NOMs or iVotes (which would have to be a decision by the closer), they lose their nominating or ivoting privileges. The standard for the closer to call it a bad nomination will be simply (based on how the article has evolved) "You could have fixed this." Meaning, the sources that improved the article to a Keep were readily available if you had simply looked. I'd like to think people are here to improve Wikipedia, which is what WP:HEY is all about. I have been in enough AfD battles against disingenuous and lazy editors that I am convinced some people do not behave in the best interests of improving Wikipedia.Trackinfo (talk) 06:38, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
The weather has messed up my schedule and I've been too busy to do more work on the article. I've gone ahead and submitted it to DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/John W. Overton, I'm not sure if it isn't too late. I'll do my QPQ and do more work on the article on Sunday or after Monday of next week. Feel free to suggest an alt or c/e the proposed hook I submitted. Smmurphy(Talk) 03:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

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Draft:Aliyah Johnson[edit]

Hello Trackinfo. I have been gradually adding bits to this draft, but I know little about the subject. When would this althlete become notable? I've been trying to avoid adding references that aren't independent.—Anne Delong (talk) 00:26, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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1998 USA Outdoors Results[edit]

Hi there! Hope you're doing well. Any chance you can review the results for 1998 USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships? It looks like some of those results have been mixed up with the one's from 2000 United States Olympic Trials (track and field) when you created it. I've fixed the high jump ones already. Thanks! SFB 01:44, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I know I have a mistake like that in 1964, but I didn't think it also hit 1998. I'll look when I get some time. Trackinfo (talk) 02:16, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of April Jace for deletion[edit]

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You know I've been supporting at some relevant discussions, so perhaps you'll understand if I give you some advice: Victory in a WP conflict can be achieved by maneuvering the other party into doing something that would justify a block or ban, such a personal attacks. DGG ( talk ) 01:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for John W. Overton[edit]

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Finding disambiguation links[edit]

Hi there! I seem to remember a while back that you were bothered by the amount of time it takes to check whether athlete links are the right ones. There is a User:Anomie/linkclassifier user script that you can install to highlight disambiguation links in yellow automatically. Obviously there is still the problem of linking to a page where there is a different, non-athlete at the main target name, but hopefully this goes some way to easing the burden. SFB

It looks like a useful tool. I have no idea where these menus to install this are.
I think my issue more recently was SvG project draft links not connecting to reveal which had articles. I figured out a time consuming solution, but am satisfied the articles classified as athlete have all been rescued. I have little faith in the categorization. Trackinfo (talk) 00:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
The link to your script page is the first one provided at Special:MyPage/skin.js. All that is needed is to place the below text on that page. It's quite colorful at first sight, but I'm used to it now and knowing which athlete names are going to disambiguations immediately by sight has been a real time saver on results articles for me. SFB 01:58, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
importScript('User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js'); // Linkback: [[User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js]]
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Thank you. This stuff is not explained, they assume you know it. I've seen other nice scripts but didn't know how to add them. Now I do. Trackinfo (talk) 04:48, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

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One-Hit Wonders[edit]

Hi. So, what do you suggest we do about this list of inaccurate "one-hit wonders"? I say go back to Billboard. 50.111.24.195 (talk) 04:26, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Famousbirthdays.com as a source[edit]

Hi Trackinfo . I noticed that you used famousbirthdays.com as a source for information in a biography article[1]. Please note that there is general consensus that famousbirthdays.com does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for the inclusion of personal information in such articles. (See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_153#Is_famousbirthdays.com_a_reliable_source_for_personal_information). If you disagree, let's discuss it. Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 02:57, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Illinois gubernatorial election, 2018#Stop Adding Third Parties to infobox[edit]

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Armand Duplantis[edit]

Hi Trackinfo. Is Armand Duplantis really eligible to set American records? Thanks for respond.Montell 74 (talk) 16:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

I have questioned USATF Records people about this directly. I did not get a definitive answer. Since Duplantis apparently holds dual citizenship, he effectively meets the USA criteria, "by an American citizen," though clearly he competes for another country internationally. I can't remember any other American citizens competing for another country setting records, but there are people like Felix Sanchez competing and there is a likely example that goes against this new precedent. You might be able to cite one. Apparently, the committee does what they want. Trackinfo (talk) 07:26, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

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Archiving[edit]

Could I request that you set up archiving for your talk page? With a page this long, it's very awkward to read. On a mobile device, it's almost impossible. If you like, I'd be happy to help you with the technical details, or even set it up for you. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Back when I considered archiving this, I recall my frustration in having to search back through some other user's archive. The particular user was one that had infuriated. It took a lot of effort to not only search back through the archive, but through the history to discover he was also deleting the numerous complaints he was receiving as well as frequently archiving so virtually nothing was immediately visible. The archiving served to mask from public view just what an asshole this guy is; how many times he had been blocked, threatened to be blocked and had gotten into arguments with well meaning editors, particularly abusing novices. And he's still with us. I can be argumentative and opinionated at times, but I have no legitimate blocks, violations or problems associated with my account. I'm here for positive contributions. I vehemently fight those who try to destroy content. So in the view of openness, I have chosen to keep all my conversations, even the negative ones, here in open public view. I hadn't considered the mobile device dilemma, but then I didn't think that many people would even bother coming here. Trackinfo (talk) 15:15, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Hmmm. While I do appreciate your desire to be fully transparent, might I point out that the archiving software automatically generates an index of the archives? So, for example, if you think I've done something stupid (which I'm sure I have, on multiple occasions), you can search my talk archive for "stupid". I don't know if that's always been the case, so possibly the last time you looked into this, that feature wasn't available. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:56, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
That would mean you know what you are looking for. When trying to dissect what went wrong, you start with a blank page. Seriously, I am sensitive to every website I visit; the number of pages and page loads to search through to get where you are intending to go, much less the poor labeling of said items. A generic archive, with no time basis or content basis is literally just a bunch of meaningless numbers. Given the choice, I have so far chosen not to inflict that on my vast readership. OK, this page is a bit long, its an 11 plus year accumulation. You should see my garage. Trackinfo (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry but this is not really optional anymore. The length of this page is preventing some browsers from opening it. Users have wide latitude in their userspace, but may not actually break the website. I will set up archiving for you shortly, unless you do it yourself. Thank you. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:33, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Following on from this, I've set up archiving at a very conservative level but which will fix the accessibility of the page. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Should be all sorted for you! I've even added dates to the threads which the bot could not sort out. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:13, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Follow on from Deletion tip of day 11 September[edit]

It may or may not be related but I have noticed a spike of PRODs and AfDs shortly following that tip on 11 September. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xmonad (3rd nomination) has some interesting considerations from DGG. In terms of rescue FoxyTunes achieved an amazing escape following a PROD decline due to a previous contested PROD.Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:17, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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WMACs Formatting[edit]

Hi mate, I created stubs for all the WMACs last night, and I had intended to split the results as per 2014 European Masters Athletics Championships to avoid the very lengthy pages like are seen at 2015 World Masters Athletics Championships - would you be interested in using this format as well? I understand the hassle when results are often formatted by event rather than age group but I believe this is a preferential layout. JDWFC (talk) 18:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you first for starting the articles. I've gotten complaints about the existing formatting, so I welcome the improvement. All these results are going to be a lot of work to format. Trackinfo (talk) 20:37, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Looks good! WeiaR (talk) 23:17, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Miss Multinational numbering[edit]

Since you're the one who created Miss Multinational 2018 and Miss Multinational 2019, are you aware that you're misnumbering them? Their website says it's 40 days, 1 hour and 12 minutes or so till Miss Multinational 2018, which makes the pageant held in January 2019 the "2018" edition. The pageant also calls the first winner, alternately, "Miss Multinational 2017" or "Miss Multinational 2017-2018". Huon (talk) 11:19, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Actually yes I discovered that yesterday. And yet the legitimate third party sources reported differently, which is why I initiated the different numbering system. They also had changed the date of the upcoming pageant, delaying it by some 5 weeks from earlier posts. Because the reporting on this subject is more fluffy, entertainment related, rather than by the journalism side, I don't know if I will find reporting on the confusion of the organizers, but that is what I would like to find before making statements in the article. But I will go back and renumber again. Trackinfo (talk) 16:24, 12 December 2018 (UTC)