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Question to talk page stalkers[edit]

I deleted a bunch of sandboxes but can't remember when and can't remember the page titles. I need to have the one about Ezra Pound reinstated. Does anyone know how to find a deleted page so I can ask an admin to put it back? Thanks. Victoria (tk) 13:05, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

I think only admins can "see" deleted pages. A rough date and a hint at your usual naming style would help them I think. Johnbod (talk) 14:14, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Johnbod, I guess I'll have to go admin shopping. I think maybe late 2014 but really don't remember. I thought it would something like Victoriaearle/Ezra sandbox or Victoriaearle/Ezra Pound sandbox. I've tried both of those to see whether they're deleted pages but can't tell. Victoria (tk) 14:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Pinging Iridescent, Floquenbeam, Sarah, Bencherlite, Crisco 1492 - I might have deleted sandboxes around the middle of September 2014. How difficult would it be to find them and reinstate? If it's not difficult, having access to the notes in the Ezra Pound sandbox would be useful. Thanks in advance if anyone can help, and sorry for being bothersome. Feel free to ignore. Victoria (tk) 16:40, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Here you go: User:Victoriaearle/Ezra Pound Sandbox. I got a database error trying to undelete the whole thing at once, so I did the latest versions, and will do it in a couple more steps so the server hamster doesn't get mad. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:14, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks so much! Yes, the sandboxes have a lot of edits. I probably shouldn't have deleted it, but I like to toss all the notes when I'm done with a project. Then, of course, you want them back at some point. Victoria (tk) 17:18, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done [1]. I remember seeing that there is a way to look at deleted pages using something similar to Special:PrefixIndex, but I think it's still in development and not active on yet. So I trolled thru your deleted contributions and searched for "Ezra". --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:20, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Oof, thanks, that's a huge favor and a lot of work. Victoria (tk) 17:23, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Not at all (it *could* have been a lot of work, but wasn't). Glad to help. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:26, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
For the admins in the room, you know you can use Special:Undelete for this, right? Annoyingly, it only searches the beginnings of page titles; fortunately, in this case that's easy. Opabinia regalis (talk) 19:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Oh. (long pause) You know, OR, you're making me look bad in front of the mortals. I thought we demigods were supposed to stick together... --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:34, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
I wrote that like it was obvious but now that I think of it, I only found out about that like a month or two ago. You can teach an old fossil new tricks! Opabinia regalis (talk) 22:57, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the link Opabinia. I'm assuming if I were a demigod and not a mere mortal I could see my deleted sandboxes? If so, it's a good link to have for the next time I might want to restore notes I tossed. Victoria (tk) 23:30, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it finds all deleted pages whose titles begin with "User:Victoriaearle". Next time give that link to one of the lesser demigods like Floq so he doesn't have to search the whole deleted contribs list ;) Opabinia regalis (talk) 01:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
FYI, Victoria, here's what that page says (the part about "still in the archive" appears to be a legacy from a much older time; there's no risk of these ever being "periodically cleaned out"):
Show pages starting with: Victoriaearle

The following 13 pages have been deleted but are still in the archive and can be restored. The archive may be periodically cleaned out.

  • User:Victoriaearle (301 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Art sandbox (477 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Bibliography (8 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Catholic Church sandbox (141 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Early Netherlandish painting sandbox (427 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Hemingway sandbox (502 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Japanese art sandbox (596 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Medieval (105 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Olivia Shakespear (240 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Priyanka Chopra (5 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/Sandbox (1,168 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/sandbox (152 revisions deleted)
  • User:Victoriaearle/van Eyck sandbox (85 revisions deleted)
--Floquenbeam (talk) 02:27, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Floquenbeam. That's a little overwhelming, and knocked me back for a couple of days. Then I remembered two years ago in September I was totally slammed at work, felt overwhelmed and threw as much overboard as I could, which was probably not the worst decision I've made in my life. Probably some of these should be reinstated (if only for attribution purposes because I copy text into mainspace and attribute to sandboxes that are now redlinked or gone).
It's a bit of mess though - I can't even remember what User:Victoriaearle with its 301 deleted revisions can possibly be and right now I have User:Victoriaearle/sandbox (with a lower case "s") but there's one that was deleted and lost 152 edits.
Would you mind helping me with this? Maybe one a week or so until it's sorted? If so, I'm thinking it would be safe to reinstate User:Victoriaearle/Sandbox (upper case "S") and I'll figure out what's there before moving on the next. Victoria (tk) 17:08, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
User:Victoriaearle/Sandbox is now blue. Ping me when you want to undelete another. This isn't really a lot of work for me, so if the "one a week or so" is for your benefit, it's fine, but if it's for my benefit, don't worry about it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:27, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Attribution purposes is irrelevant, provided you were the only one editing the sandboxes, since the edit is still attributed to you. (Technically it might mean the copyright will expire a few days later than it should, if you waited a few days to copy the material from the sandbox to mainspace, but it's not likely any of your edits will still remain untouched 70 years after your death, nor that you'll be in a position to care if they are.) The only time it's necessary for attribution is if a lot of people have been working in the sandbox and you need to be clear who was responsible for what when it's transferred to mainspace. ‑ Iridescent 19:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Iri, for clearing that up. When I was copying from a sandbox to the Van Gogh article it did occur to me that I work that way, but a lot of the sandboxes I've copied from to articles are gone. Floquenbeam, I'd like to sort through what's in the two you've reinstated, see what's there, and then decide which of the others need to be brought back. I'd forgotten until the Ezra RfC, when I wanted notes to refer to, that what I do, because I won't spend money on books for Wikipedia, is order sometimes-hard-to-find scholarly books through interlibrary loan and then for three weeks work like a madwoman capturing notes. I should probably have those notes, but I have to look at the articles and decide which of the sandboxes really have to be reinstated to keep the notes. If that makes any sense? Anyway, I'll ping you back when I'm not feeling quite so overwhelmed. Victoria (tk) 20:18, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Full scale assault on Ghent[edit]

Totally up for a Ghent Altarpiece makeover if you are. We had it more or less written a few years ago, but it needs polish. We should really finish it off...interested? Ceoil (talk) 22:54, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

I'll gather the assault weapons. It's in very good shape, though you've done most of the work there. I can't remember why we gave up, except that it's a monster. Yes, of course I'm interested. Will start picking my way through there during the week. Deal? Victoria (tk) 23:16, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Deal. Ceoil (talk) 23:20, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Now I remember. All those levels! All those panels and registers and outside/inside and each has measurements, iconography, descriptions, backstories. Yes, definitely needs siege engines. Thanks btw for edits to Jane Austen. Victoria (tk) 01:08, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Respect for your work there. I can really only wonder and watch. Ceoil (talk) 05:38, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks but it's not me, it's all in the sourcing. Sources are wonderful things. They point the way. Victoria (tk) 17:16, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

(undent) On my computer/monitor, the beautiful image atop the page squeezes the text of the lede into a column that is literally two words wide, cowering beside the margin, in fear for its life...[I reduced the zoom from 125% to 100 and the column expanded to five words in width, which is better, but...]  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 22:29, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't know what to say. I'm working on a laptop and the lines vary from a spotcheck of one with 15 to another with 11 words. Will try to fix - somehow, sometime. I'm a very slow assaulter (assaultee??). Victoria (tk) 23:38, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

International Baccalaureate[edit]


While editing the article International Baccalaureate, I have noticed that when you edited it on 28 June 2010 (see history), you added 5 references to specific pages of a book by Peterson (notes 9 to 13), but you forgot, as far as I can tell, to add a full-fledged reference to that book. Could you please do so?

Thanks. J.P. Martin-Flatin (talk) 08:45, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@JP.Martin-Flatin: perhaps it's the one in note #10? Looks like "Peterson, Alexander Duncan Campbell (2003). Schools Across Frontiers: The Story of the International Baccalaureate and the United World Colleges"?  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 09:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Guilty tps after edit conflict Lingzhi, I just hit an edit conflict with you as I was trying to post: "My apologies for butting in, Victoria, but I managed to find the relevant Peterson book details (Schools across Frontiers) so have added it to the article and hopefully dealt with this." SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:49, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Guilty of what? Of doing a good deed? For shame!  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 10:02, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. J.P. Martin-Flatin (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks to all of you - for updating the article, for looking for and finding sources. Those pages fell of my watchlist quite a long time ago. Victoria (tk) 20:42, 13 October 2016 (UTC)


I have taken down the heavy artillery and retreated. Not something I could do without you, so taking a long term view. In other news, rain in Ireland, and Ling is defiantly a good guy; we have worked together in the past on stuff (and see above). Otherwise, grey skys, especially over Munster. Also, my god man, please vote for Hillary and reason, though watching the GOP implode is fun indeed. I still believe in the enlightenment, and evidence based argument, and as such would not vote GOP, now or ever. Ceoil (talk) 09:31, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Ha! I"ve been GOP all my life and would never switch, but I also would never dream of voting for Trump. The lunatic fringe of the party vomited that garbage all over our faces brcause they all voted together, while the sane vote was split between half a dozen candidates...BTW thanks for the kind words. I thought I was gonna need a note fom my mother...  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 10:37, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I think we need to take down the heavy artillery, retreat, and wait for a few months to re-start our campaign on the Ghent. Vincent almost killed me, to be honest. Well, not quite, but it was exhausting. Re Ling, sorry I was short, cranky, whatever during the weekend, (and no, no note from mother needed). I came down with a flu bug the next day, which explains crankiness (maybe). Thanks both. Victoria (tk) 15:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)