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Precious anniversary[edit]

Four years ago ...
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small mammals
... you were recipient
no. 178 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for today's Voalavo, remaining "an intriguing example of unique and long-unrecognized Malagasy diversity"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

... for today's Eremoryzomys, summarizing "what little information there is and I hope it does it in a clear and accessible way" about that rice rat! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

... and for today's Ferugliotheriidae, - all new to me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

... and today Myotis alcathoe, - "You'd think that after centuries of systematic research, we would at least know all the mammal species occurring in Europe". Thank you for chasing the unknown! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

... and today's Akodon spegazzinii! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

... ps: and it's five years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

... Thank you for today's Macrotarsomys petteri, saying that its "dramatic range shift may have been the result of climate change, and even its current tiny range is threatened by human activities"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

... and today's Lundomys! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Macrotarsomys petteri scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the Macrotarsomys petteri article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 13 June 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 13, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:13, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Precious anniversary[edit]

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Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Lundomys scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the Lundomys article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 20 August 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 20, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


I took the liberty of updating your script, to make use of mw.hook, instead of document ready, so that it will also work icw tools that don't reload the entire page, like JS page previewing, VE and the new wiki editor. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 21:54, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I won't be actively developing it any time soon, so feel free to move the script to a different location outside my user space or to make further fixes if it's still of interest to editors. Ucucha (talk) 03:34, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

E Museo Lundii publication date[edit]

Dear Ucucha, I've seen you changed the date of publication of Herluf Winge's original description of Lundomys back to 1887. But the correct date is 1888. Most sources cite the first parts wrongly as 1887. This is probably due the fact that this is the third part of the first volume of E Museo Lundii, and it doesn't carry the date in the frontspice. In Biodiversity Library you can see that it was handwritten. The preceding part, Oluf Winge's "Fugle fra Knoglehuler i Brasilien" (part II of Volume 1) is dated 1888 in the same site (, although it also carry the wrong handwritten date of 1887 in one of the pages. You can see in this example (, from Statens Naturhistoriske Museum website, or consult "E Museo Lundii - Addendum" (by C. L. Hansen, 2012, published by Statens Naturhistoriske Museum), that E Museo Lundii was published from 1888 to 1915. I can provide more sources with the correct publicaton date if it is necessary.

Best regards Nascimentors (talk) 13:20, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation!
I'm still not really convinced though that your arguments outweigh the fact that the rodent literature universally (to my knowledge) uses 1887. Even the Mammals of South America, which is based on solid bibliographical research and cites Hansen (2012), gives the date for Winge as 1887. The PDF you cite is unconvincing to me since it doesn't discuss bibliography. The publication date of Oluf's bird volume is interesting, but it wouldn't be inconceivable for the different parts to have been published out of sequence, and I'm not sure the evidence that that volume was published in 1888 is strong.
I don't have access to Hansen's book myself; does it give an explicit discussion of the publication date of Winge's rodent volume? If so, I'd be OK with changing Lundomys back; we should also change the other species that Winge named, such as Juliomys anoblepas and Pseudoryzomys. Ucucha (talk) 03:22, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Oh, it's not actually true that the rodent literature universally cites 1887, since these papers use 1888:
  • Abravaya, J.P. and Matson, J.O. 1975. Notes on a Brazilian mouse, Blarinomys breviceps (Winge). Contributions in Science 270:1-8.
  • Emmons, L. and Vucetich, M.ía Guiomar. 1998. The identity of Winge's Lasiuromys villosus and the description of a new genus of echimyid rodent (Rodentia, Echimyidae). American Museum Novitates 3223:1-12.
Haven't found any discussion of the discrepancy in the literature though. Ucucha (talk) 03:31, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
It seems that the subdivisions of E Museo Lundii volumes were not supposed to circulate isolated, and this is why they bear no publication date in their frontspice. Some volumes in libraries then might have been added the wrong handwritten publication date and all subsequent works that used it as reference helped to disseminate. As far I know there is no discussion on literature about such discrepancy. Some works in paleornithology also cites Oluf's work wrongly too (even the publication name), and this might be the same reason, as the acess to such works was much harder in the past. I've made a montage with some reliable sources that mentions the 1888 date:
  • 1 – K. L. Hansen, 2012, p. 5;
  • 2 – k. L. Hansen, 2012, p. 42;
  • 3 – J. A. P. Drenkpol, 1927, p. 2 ("Um Benemerito do Brasil, o Dinamarquês Herluf Winge classificador dos achados paleontológicos de Lund." Boletim do Museu Nacional do Rio de Janeiro 3 [1]: 1-14 ) – Which says that in volume I, published in 1888, Herluf Winge describes the Rodents from Brazilian caves;
  • 4 – Frontspice of the first part of the first volume of E Museo Lundii (which is the only part that seems to be unavailable online), with 1888 date and including all the authors of the volume;
  • 5 – B. Holten & M. Sterll, 2012, p. 255 (from the book "P. W. Lund e as grutas com ossos em Lagoa Santa", Portuguese translation from the Danish original);
  • 6/7 – C. Paula Couto, 1950, p. 21-22 (from the book "Memórias da Paleontologia Brasileira", a review of Lund’s work, including biography of Herluf Winge);
  • 8 – A frontspice included (seems to from a secondary binding) in my own copy of Winge’s work about the rodents. Nascimentors (talk) 12:36, 24 August 2017 (UTC)