User talk:Ugog Nizdast

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Feel free to post here, especially if I made any mistakes. I am not experienced enough here and one never stops learning. Need some help with anything or perhaps an article? I generally am lazy and slow in my contributions but with a little prodding or help, I'll get encouraged to work on it.

Current status (.) - Partially available 13:39, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Irrespective of above, I'll try to respond on my talk page as quickly as possible.


Heather Bresch[edit]

I was wondering if I could bug you to take a look at a discussion here. There is no clear consensus and I cannot edit boldly due to a disclosed COI, therefore I am unsure what to do about it. Any thoughts? CorporateM (Talk) 21:00, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I'll be sure to weigh in if I can. See you there, -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 04:40, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks; there is at least one editor that will oppose almost any suggestions I make to the article, so this requires me to get more editors involved; but once more editors are involved, that is likely to lead to different opinions, and since I am unable to edit boldly, I'll just end up with "no consensus" everywhere, unable to actually improve the article. Not sure the best way to go about making progress. Anyways, whatever you decide to do, a few minutes of your time is greatly appreciated. CorporateM (Talk) 18:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Update: I'm having some network problem and it will probably be resolved in a week's time. So most likely I won't be available till then to even check my watchlist. There seems to be many editors there, so maybe the discussion might resolve itself before I participate? Anyway, we shall see. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks; I'll continue working on the other sections that more obviously need expansion, as suggested. She is not that notable, but there are a few in-depth profiles[1][2][3] that contain plenty of material to bring it up to GA standards and replace junk/primary sources with. CorporateM (Talk) 07:20, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dwarf Fortress[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Dwarf Fortress[edit]

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Citizen Kane[edit]

Would you be willing to do the Review yourself? Or find someone else willing to split it in half and share the review with, since it is very long? I think that there is unofficial, informal consensus to split the article itself, but the articles main editor WFinch is waiting for something official to be decided. I have worked on this article as well, but I defer to WFinch. I am also not very popular in many areas of Wikipedia, so I'd be fine with not being involved if that would make other editors feel better about themselves, but I would just like to see some progress made in the article. Since Orson Welles' 100th birthday has come and gone, it would be great if this could be the Today's Featured Article on the 75th anniversary of its release next year. That's my whole agenda.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:58, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, though I don't know anyone (more familiar with the topic than me) who can help us with it. I'll see if I can find anybody at the Peer review volunteers list or WikiProject Film. I'll look into the splitting issue. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 04:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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Mobility analogy GA review[edit]

Um ... I'm not a scientist, so that would be a challenge. But maybe. We'll see how this one goes. Daniel Case (talk) 15:02, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Puducherry official language[edit]

After the back and forth on it on various pagesfor a while, I found a good ref for it from the District courts of Pondicherry. It appears that it's not as simple as our article makes it out to be, so perhaps a clarification note is needed. The same note can be used across all the pages (I can think of at least four currently). —SpacemanSpiff 08:42, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Good find. I've got this ref too: [4] but it doesn't mention French...odd. Your ref mentions "its official status was preserved by the Treaty of Cession signed by the Indian Union and the French Republic on 28 May 1956." Let's dig in more. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:03, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I think the confusion on French is because of this. According to the Treaty of Cession, French will continue until replaced. This Act by Pondicherry legislature made Tamil etc official languages, but it appears to be silent on French. So I'm guessing that some people treat the silence as "replaced" some people treat it as "additional". I haven't been able to find anything else that is reasonable! However, I have seen new road signs etc in French during my last visit, so not sure what the deal is. —SpacemanSpiff 09:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
So further search simply shows that so some say, some don't mention it and no one explicitly denies it. TOI mentions a "four-language system" but I think they're referring to English. We're forced to just state that "per the Act of 1965 French is the official language until replaced" and then mention "Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam are the three...". I'll get to it. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:24, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Hope that puts a stop to the constant back and forth edits. —SpacemanSpiff 09:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I think the change looks good. Once you think you're done, can you also add that text as a note within Puducherry, Languages with official status in India. As you are the author of the text if you add it I wouldn't have to worry about attribution syntax! cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:36, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
I did think of doing that but felt unsure given that we still aren't sure whether there are three or four languages, that would confuse even more readers. Not much we can do here though, I'll get to it. Good day. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 07:42, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Still there? I just began at Puducherry#Official languages of government and it blatantly proclaims that "Contrary to a still widespread belief, the French language has no official status" using this as a source. I did use translate on it and towards the end it does mention something about French, but I didn't find it explicitly implying it, maybe a case of OR. Could you take a look at it and assess its reliability? -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:57, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

This ref seems reasonable, sort of what I had alluded to -- the Official Language Act being silent on French which leads some to think that it eliminated French while others say that it just doesn't address the status of French. The court website says one thing, the languages commission says another and so on. I'm going to ask @Abecedare: to chime in here as he makes good sense of language problems. —SpacemanSpiff 03:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Maybe busy on a weekend so no reply. I've read it again, it just questions the lack of any mention about French as you said, nowhere any explicit mention that it isn't. Thus, the "contrary to popular belief..." statement misrepresents the source to some extent. Then I'll remove that part and replace it with the new summary of it. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 16:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I saw a vacation notice put up for until the 25th and that he might not respond quick enough. We've had this piece of the 'pedia messed up for so long that I don't think the next dozen days ought to matter much. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:46, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

(note: moved to Talk:Official languages of Puducherry#Status of FrenchUgog Nizdast (talk) 10:12, 15 June 2015 (UTC))

Will take a look and add my 2c (may be a day from now). Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 17:15, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence[edit]

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For your efforts in taking up coordination of Tag and Assess 2014 and bringing it to a successful close. Wish you achieve many more in the India related projects.

VasuVR (talk, contribs) 04:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your warm wishes. I'll do my best. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 06:59, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Dwarf Fortress[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your generally stellar editing, whether on content creation, housekeeping, or talk-page discussions. Keep it up! Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Vanamonde, your recognition means a lot. ‑Joel (Ugog Nizdast (talk)) 17:51, 16 June 2015 (UTC)